US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[TakingBackSunday]

GIVE US BERNIE

GIVE US BERNIE

GIVE US BERNIE

How about no

[benjipwns]

neither one seemed like it'd be very convincing to anyone who hasn't made up their mind, i thought Trump had a tiny edge only because of the expectations of his behavior and plus he threw out all those probably fake statistics while Schumer just kinda whined about the optics for half of his

edit: also Trump played up all that other border "security" stuff too, so it sounded like more than just the wall...while the wall was more of a focus for the Democrats

edit2: #RehireJamesGunn

[james]

Yaaaaas bernie

https://mobile.twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyxByOXpXkJN

[TakingBackSunday]

neither one seemed like it'd be very convincing to anyone who hasn't made up their mind, i thought Trump had a tiny edge only because of the expectations of his behavior and plus he threw out all those probably fake statistics while Schumer just kinda whined about the optics for half of his

edit: also Trump played up all that other border "security" stuff too, so it sounded like more than just the wall...while the wall was more of a focus for the Democrats

edit2: #RehireJamesGunn

This is predictably the response I was expecting from you

[benjipwns]

we should just have endless responses on increasingly obscure streaming sites. remember that year there was the GOP response, a tea party response, Rand Paul response and then some other GOPer response (Ted Cruz maybe?)

[james]

Bernie slaying

[Mandark]

I didn't watch it, but going by benji's reaction Trump must have been fucking awful.

[benjipwns]

THEY CUT OFF BERNIE'S MIC BEFORE HE WAS FINISHED, DNC STRIKES AGAIN

[benjipwns]

Trump can't be awful. Only boring.

[Tripon]

That Trump speech was pretty bad.

All those acadotes of illegals killing and murdering and raping happened after people stayed for years. He did a horrible job of trying to link why a physical wall would help people. At some point, he was begging for wall, and then referenced the two children that recently died in custody. He didn't say why a wall would prevent that.

So.... eh. This will likely be the longest shutdown ever since the record is up to 21 days, and that's Friday. This doesn't end until Trump realizes he needs to sign something to stop the bleeding and it sounded like he's nowhere near that yet.

[benjipwns]

Trump said he wants to stop the criminals. The Dimms said they want to stop Trump. And Bernie said he wants to stop climate change.

This be politik, not debate or reality.

[agrajag]

[benjipwns]

you'll all be sorry, just like you were when you denied that the airport drone was actually a police drone

[benjipwns]

and i'll be most sorry of all because every option is still moving further away from open borders or at least eliminating the 100 mile border zone/massively simplifying legal immigration procedure

[Mandark]

haven't seen a libertarian get wrecked like this over a border dispute since rand paul got sloppy with his yard trimmings

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/MaxKennerly/status/1082820646424453125

[james]

Benji, thoughts?

https://twitter.com/MaxKennerly/status/1082820646424453125

[benjipwns]

is Schumer trying to stare into my soul?

[benjipwns]

AOC gave her response and went after ICE on MSNBC, no clip up yet on YouTube.

[MMaRsu]

Lol greenscreening the presidents head onto a body

This is how far America has come

You can easily tell by looking at his 'hands' when he opens them up. that a greenscreen was employed here



 

[benjipwns]

why did NBC upload a video that has an hour long silent shot of the White House before anything happens?

[MMaRsu]

I think it was just the stream video

[agrajag]

why did NBC upload a video that has an hour long silent shot of the White House before anything happens?

that's the livestream that they reposted, pretty common

[benjipwns]

you're trying to gaslight sealion me

[agrajag]

well you've been lionized so much it's time to take you down a peg

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1082833069864898562

[Tripon]

I thought the plan was to have one democratic (okay, two) reponse. Why is everyone taking their shot?

[benjipwns]

Bernie is an independent, and Sandy was just on MSNBC as a guest more than it being an "official" response.

[benjipwns]

whenever I see El Chapo Trial headlines out of the corner of my eye I initially think our WHITE podcast friends had hit the mainsteam media big time

[kingv]

Brianna Wus response on twitch was really good.

[benjipwns]

Brianna Wus response on twitch was really good.

[Mandark]

It's crazy how bad a negotiator Trump is.

Also, I can't believe he let Anne fucking Coulter bully him into this.

[benjipwns]

Never having Ann Coulter compete on The Celebrity Apprentice was a real missed opportunity. They could have had Jimmie Walker too.

[nachobro]

Ann would have destroyed Piers Morgan

[benjipwns]

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm kinda curious how far you guys trend towards the "open borders" side. If we put Trump/Dobbs on the "right" (or left), the Dimms mostly in the middle, benji on the "far left" (or far right) and pragmatic attempted benji* on the "left" etc.

Nobody has to actually answer or anything of course, I just don't think we've ever really talked about it like other stuff that I remember so I'm a bit curious how far we collectively go on this front.

*Some minor free paperwork mostly as a type of census, health/crime checks before residency allowed. Highly lenient status refugee acceptance. Drivers licenses are okay, so is voting, etc. Complete ban on Canadians, automatic high powered turrets every three feet along the Canadian border, minefields, and multiple walls based on defense in depth principles.

[Mandark]

buddy you think they should give trump the wall

gonna need you to take a few steps to the middle

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/1082846451535958016

[Mandark]

Every six weeks or so I remember that Bill Shine landed a White House gig after spending years protecting Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly so they could molest female employees at Fox News.

Truly, #metoo has gone too far.

[benjipwns]

buddy you think they should give trump the wall

gonna need you to take a few steps to the middle

That statement was made in the context of political strategy for others, not as my own political stance. Which should be more than obvious considering...well, I dunno, everything.

[Mandark]

please less talking and move over next to manchin so we can take this photo

[Great Rumbler]

Every six weeks or so I remember that Bill Shine landed a White House gig after spending years protecting Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly so they could molest female employees at Fox News.

Truly, #metoo has gone too far.

Remember when Roger Ailes became a Trump adviser almost immediately after being fired from Fox?

[team filler]

Torshin continued to travel frequently to the United States and even showed up as part of a Russian delegation in February 2017 to the National Prayer Breakfast, where he was at one point scheduled to meet with President Trump.

"Sure I will just meet with the Russian money launderer during the second month of my presidency. Very cool, very legal."

 

Would be best if some Russian called Donald during his speech and he accidently puts it on speaker 

need melania emoji 

[MMaRsu]

Every six weeks or so I remember that Bill Shine landed a White House gig after spending years protecting Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly so they could molest female employees at Fox News.

Truly, #metoo has gone too far.

Remember when Roger Ailes became a Trump adviser almost immediately after being fired from Fox?

On July 21, 2016, Ailes resigned from Fox News, receiving $40 million[36] from Fox in an exit agreement.

Ahh to harass your way to 40 mil and into the white house 

[benjipwns]

Entering the United States illegally is trespassing

Only if the property owners do not consent. You wouldn't know being completely surrounded by it but for most of the rest of us it's quite easy to avoid entering Federal land.

[kingv]

It's crazy how bad a negotiator Trump is.

Also, I can't believe he let Anne fucking Coulter bully him into this.

It’s super crazy.

He is currently negotiating with himself by trying to (illegally) shift money around to stave off the worst of the shutdown threats. But, if he figures out a way to keep the parks open and pat snap, why would dems ever come to the table?!

[benjipwns]

The entirety of the US implicitly belongs to the public unless explicitly owned by an individual or the federal government proper

So you're in the pocket of Big Allodial, knew it, statist filth. I hope you reflect on this when the revolution comes and you're treated in a fair manner according to voluntary agreement among all parties.

[curly]

democrats 

[benjipwns]

excited for this "more innovation"

[curly]

how can you write pablum like that and think you're effectively communicating with the public? is their target audience government contractors and old people looking for something to lull themselves to sleep?

[Trent Dole]

'We also hate dune coons, but we say it more nicely.'
Gee I wonder why turn out is so low for you guys so much of the time.

[Nintex]

All I'm seeing is "mom/dad dissapointed" chuck and nancy memes and Trump didn't piss himself. He won this round imo.

[benjipwns]

alright, fine, i discard my opinion that it was a stalemate

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1082857277084893184

 

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1082857997032919040


babby's first oval office televised speech

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/1082857277084893184

Fact check, the gunman threatening to kill the hostages is one of the reasons for the crisis, the police not giving into his demands is the other.

Both sides

[Brehvolution]

This clown's own party wouldn't give him the wall his first 2 years so he shuts down the govt. because the opposition party won't give it to him. That's all Chuck and Nancy had to say.

[Joe Molotov]

And the GOP is just hoping that he’ll declare the state of emergency and take the wall money by force so they can publicly tsk tsk and then reopen the government.

[Tripon]

And the GOP is just hoping that he’ll declare the state of emergency and take the wall money by force so they can publicly tsk tsk and then reopen the government.

The politics of clearly wanting something illegal to happen in order to not have to publicly defy your party's head.

[Nintex]

And the GOP is just hoping that he’ll declare the state of emergency and take the wall money by force so they can publicly tsk tsk and then reopen the government.

The politics of clearly wanting something illegal to happen in order to not have to publicly defy your party's head.

Unlike many other things it is not illegal for a president to do so. It is frowned upon but not illegal.

And that is seemingly where things are headed. Although Trump mentioned the Dems would visit today and everything could be solved in a 45 minute meeting. 
After which he can go back to golf.

So I'm not sure how dragging this out benefits the Democrats either. They just keep getting sucked deeper into the Trump Deadzone and more of the differences between the Bernies and the Clintonistas are aired out in the open.

Trump really has no trouble whatsoever hyping up this emergency
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1083061110264217600

[agrajag]

breh, that shit will get tied up in courts quicker than you can say beast mode. He would have to prove to the judges that there is a national emergency.