US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/DavidTindell1/status/1128689720043745282

 

[agrajag]

dracarys

[Brehvolution]

We'll see how long this lasts after Bama politicians are forced to pay their mistresses' child support.

https://twitter.com/DavidTindell1/status/1128689720043745282

Pro-life, Pro-rapist.

[Occam]

In case conception didn't occur because of rape, should the father have a veto right regarding an abortion?

[Brehvolution]

If they aren't married, no.

[Occam]

My question wasn't just directed at you, I would like to hear other opinions (and reasoning), too.

Why should the father only get a say when the couple is married? After all, child support doesn't hinge on marriage, either.

Edit: For what it's worth, I believe abortion should be legal (just the way it is in all civilized nations). I am undecided regarding the rights of the father.

[agrajag]

yes. Let them remove the fetus and implant it in the father's uterus.

[Steve Contra]

The father should never have a legal say in it, regardless of marital status.

[Mandark]

The father should never have a legal say in it, regardless of marital status.

+1

[benjipwns]

yes. Let them remove the fetus and implant it in the father's uterus.

this is the future liberals want

[Occam]

I get the argument that it's the woman's body, but on the other hand, 50% of the genes are form the father, and in case a child is born, the father is held (financially) responsible, too. But maybe the woman's rights outweigh the rights of the father because she bears all the hardship and risks of pregnancy and childbirth.

[Mandark]

shoulda stopped before the "but"

[agrajag]

Occam, out of curiosity, how old are you? Are you super young?

[Occam]

Actually, I just realized that calling the genitor "father" is incorrect because he only becomes a father AFTER the child is born, which is when the associated rights and responsibilities kick in.
It's the same dishonest right-wing rhetoric as calling anti-abortion "pro-life".

So yeah, after giving this some thought, the rights of the child bearer absolutely outweigh the rights of the genitor.

[benjipwns]

Occam, out of curiosity, how old are you? Are you super young?

Born   1285
Ockham, Surrey, England

[Great Rumbler]

United States Ambassdor to Israel David Friedman: “Israel has one secret weapon that not too many countries have. Israel is on the side of God, and we don’t underestimate that.”

 

[Occam]

United States Ambassdor to Israel David Friedman: “Israel has one secret weapon that not too many countries have. Israel is on the side of God, and we don’t underestimate that.”

 

That's what happens when you forget about the separation of church and state and allow insane people to run a country.

[benjipwns]

That's what happens when you forget about the separation of church and state

The separation of church and state principle isn't based on forbidding religious people from holding public office.

[benjipwns]

Though I guess would could try a separation of church and procreation licensing program.

[benjipwns]

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1129001970654679040

[benjipwns]

Tom Steyer's weird impeachment campaign is still going on as well, gave WaPo an exclusive on his latest dropping of millions on a stupid ad buy (video is not paywalled)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/tom-steyer-nothing-happened--ad-2020/2019/05/16/7d0983bc-bf31-4b61-8881-b70801cd771a_video.html

Tom Steyer: 'Nothing Happened' | Ad 2020
May 16, 2019 | 9:24 AM EDT
Billionaire and activist Tom Steyer released an ad May 16 to urge Congress to hold President Trump "accountable."

Now you tell us to wait for the next election? Really? Really? Really? This is why we volunteered. Raised money. Went door to door. And voted in the last election.

[benjipwns]

thanks nate

[CatsCatsCats]

We'll see how long this lasts after Bama politicians are forced to pay their mistresses' child support.

https://twitter.com/DavidTindell1/status/1128689720043745282

Pro-life, Pro-rapist.

Lol like they aren’t going to be able to skirt their own law

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1128804624650199040

[shosta]

We'll see how long this lasts after Bama politicians are forced to pay their mistresses' child support.

Which Obama politicians?!

[Brehvolution]

The law doesn't say you can't get an abortion out of state.

[Steve Contra]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1129001970654679040

For a trump tweet this is fairly accurate.

[Nintex]

The bois about to hit Iran: 

Venezuela: 

Trump: 

[Brehvolution]

Start WWIII to kill everyone off before the 2020 elections to own the libs.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1129067511557906433

tfw you're excited to start a new war

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1129035345553776642

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1129001970654679040

One weird trick?

[Nintex]

Hey you pssst, you.

Wanna wag the dog with us? 

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1129071531429117952

[Great Rumbler]

thanks nate

(Image removed from quote.)

6/11ths is considered "full" now?

[Joe Molotov]

What if Beto livestreams himself banging a dude? Truly a relaunch we could get behind.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1129067511557906433

This isn't what I planned when I threw my 2016 Democratic primary vote away on a straight white dude.

[benjipwns]

6/11ths is considered "full" now?

Some people see the glass 6/11ths full, others see the glass 5/11ths empty.

[team filler]

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/16/business/walmart-earnings-stock-tariffs-trump-china/index.html

[Trent Dole]

https://twitter.com/DavidTindell1/status/1128689720043745282

 

Dave should've been a blowjob.

[benjipwns]

Buttigieg says he’s not peaking too soon

Pete Buttigieg, the South Bend, Indiana, mayor who has surged into prominence in the Democratic primary, insisted Thursday that he wasn’t in danger of peaking too soon.

“It's not like we're in first place,” he told reporters after addressing businesspeople and local politicians at a City Club of Chicago event. “While I'm thrilled with the fact that we are obviously running ahead of a lot of our competitors — we’ve gotten a lot of favorable attention, and our organization is growing more and more strong in terms of recruiting and finance — it doesn't take away from the fact that this is a long run. This is a marathon. We have a long way to go.”

“We are frankly ahead of where I had hoped to be, but now we are right where I want to be,” he added.

He continued, "let me tell you something, I haven't even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you'll know. Because I'm gonna peak so hard that everybody in Philadelphia America's gonna feel it."

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1129068785762283521

 

[benjipwns]

Jeez, just say you're going to pass out like everybody else.

[Nintex]

"Hail Hydra"

[team filler]

Buttigieg says he’s not peaking too soon

Pete Buttigieg, the South Bend, Indiana, mayor who has surged into prominence in the Democratic primary, insisted Thursday that he wasn’t in danger of peaking too soon.

“It's not like we're in first place,” he told reporters after addressing businesspeople and local politicians at a City Club of Chicago event. “While I'm thrilled with the fact that we are obviously running ahead of a lot of our competitors — we’ve gotten a lot of favorable attention, and our organization is growing more and more strong in terms of recruiting and finance — it doesn't take away from the fact that this is a long run. This is a marathon. We have a long way to go.”

“We are frankly ahead of where I had hoped to be, but now we are right where I want to be,” he added.

He continued, "let me tell you something, I haven't even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you'll know. Because I'm gonna peak so hard that everybody in Philadelphia America's gonna feel it."

[team filler]

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1129147418682040320

Trump once again fires a tactical nuke right into the center of a campaign of a Democrat running for President. 

[agrajag]

Beast mode!

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/mdudas/status/1129113685220352001

 

[agrajag]

political prisoner.

[BIONIC]

The whale fucking dream is dead

[Nintex]

Trump's people had Osama Bin Laden on speed dial
 

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1129159251115552769

[BisMarckie]

political prisoner.

Big Whale claims another victim.

Norway and Japan are probably involved because they would rather kill them than make love to them.

[benjipwns]

Wrap it up, Democrats are in trouble and doomed, james and Occam hardest hit: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/us/politics/abortion-republicans-democrats.html

With grisly claims that Democrats promote “birth day abortions” and are “the party of death,” the Republican Party and its conservative allies have aggressively reset the terms of one of the country’s most divisive and emotionally fraught debates, forcing Democrats to reassess how they should respond to attacks and distortions that portray the entire party as extremist on abortion.

The unusually forceful, carefully coordinated campaign has created challenges that Democrats did not expect as they struggle to combat misinformation and thwart further efforts to undercut access to abortion. And advocates of abortion rights fear it is succeeding in pressuring lawmakers in more conservative states to pass severe new restrictions, as Alabama did this week by approving a bill that would essentially outlaw the procedure.

“Democratic politicians constantly misunderstand the disconnect between their position and where the American people are,” said Charmaine Yoest, a vice president at the conservative Heritage Foundation, who was formerly president of Americans United for Life.

“People want abortion restrictions,” added Ms. Yoest, who recently left a job in the Trump administration. “And the more you reveal about the other side’s extremism, the more people say, ‘Wait a minute, I don’t support that.’"

[Joe Molotov]

”And the more you reveal about the other side’s extremism, the more people say, ‘Wait a minute, I don’t support that.’"

I’d like to think that’s true.

[Tripon]

Sen. Susan Collins, who voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh on the basis of his assurance that he would follow judicial precedent on abortion law, is confident he will keep his word.

Asked Thursday whether she believed that Kavanaugh would join the liberal bloc on the court to strike down Alabama’s new law effectively banning abortion altogether, Collins said she was sure he would be guided by the high court’s traditional deference to precedents such as the 1973 ruling in Roe v. Wade.

“The Alabama law is a terrible law. It’s very extreme. it essentially bans all abortions. I can’t imagine that any justice could find that to be consistent with the previous precedents,” Collins told reporters on Capitol Hill, according to a tweet by CNN correspondent Manu Raju.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/susan-collins-confident-brett-kavanaugh-will-strike-down-alabama-abortion-law-184058700.html

[shosta]

He was pretty clear during his confirmation hearing.

[Occam]

The whole “the father should have a veto power on abortion” is some twisted shit.

At least pro lifers can claim to care about life and claim to have principals.

Well, as has been pointed out, if carrying a child to term was was possible for both sexes, ethically the genitor should absolutely have a veto right, and in that case be required to have the fetus implanted.

Best principal:

[agrajag]

did you really need this thread to figure out that both sexes couldn't carry a child to term?

[Occam]

did you really need this thread to figure out that both sexes couldn't carry a child to term?

No. And as I originally said, I was undecided regarding the rights of the genitor, that's why I asked for opinions and reasoning.
The reason I asked was because I came across this: https://www.opposingviews.com/category/new-law-lets-dads-veto-abortions

I still believe that the genitor should have some rights, it's just that the rights of the woman weigh much heavier and thus overrule the man's rights.