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benjipwns

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37920 on: July 24, 2019, 11:16:26 PM »
is benji a berniebro? :thinking
If Bernard Sanders does not win the Democratic nomination, I will not vote in 2020. :hmph

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37922 on: July 24, 2019, 11:51:39 PM »

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« Reply #37924 on: July 25, 2019, 01:15:58 AM »
No More Deaths sent me a letter in the mail. :beli

That's another watch list I'm on. :vr

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37925 on: July 25, 2019, 01:27:58 AM »
All those sweet ill-gotten gains I kick up to them, obviously. :money

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They're a vaguely religious organization so even the KKKustoms and Border Patrol is probably reluctant to raid them as an organization and instead opts to target its members as individuals. Alliance for Global Justice has been going for years without getting popped and I don't even think they're religious? Maybe during the Nicaragua embargo they were...
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benjipwns

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37928 on: July 25, 2019, 07:42:08 AM »
Analysis: Mueller has spoken, but 2020 may be the final word

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It had all the trappings of a classic Washington political drama, yet brought little closure.

Even if Mueller had been a more eager player, he may not have been able to make a more convincing case. Gone are the Watergate-era hearings, when lawmakers crossed party lines to engage critically over then-President Richard Nixon. The impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton changed that dynamic, and the partisan divide since has only deepened to a point of rupturing whatever’s left of political comity.

Still, Mueller’s appearance was far from a political loss for either party. Ahead of the 2020 election, both are trying to reach the slice of Americans who have not hardened to partisan positions.

A June poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found 31% of Americans said they didn’t know enough to say whether Mueller’s report had completely cleared Trump of coordination with Russia and 30% didn’t know whether it had not completely cleared Trump of obstruction. A CNN poll found that just 3% said they had read the whole report.

Perhaps Mueller’s testimony, with his button-down lawyer’s approach, reached some of them.
:brain wow thx :brain

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37929 on: July 25, 2019, 08:33:39 AM »
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A CNN poll found that just 3% said they had read the whole report.

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37930 on: July 25, 2019, 09:32:22 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/25/how-did-trump-end-up-front-presidential-seal-doctored-include-russian-symbol/?utm_term=.e0aa364c330c

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A spokesperson for Turning Point USA told the Post that he had no idea where the image of the seal came from.

“It was a last-minute A/V mistake — and I can’t figure out where the breakdown was — but it was a last minute throw-up, and that’s all it was. I can’t figure out who did it yet,” he said. “I don’t know where they got the image from.”
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37931 on: July 25, 2019, 09:48:04 AM »
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In his very first speech on the Senate floor in May, Hawley invoked an “epidemic of loneliness and despair ... a society increasingly defined not by the genuine and personal love of family and church, but by the cold and judgmental world of social media.”

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37932 on: July 25, 2019, 09:51:50 AM »
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Stated simply, the post-liberals—represented foremost by the rightwing Israeli scholar Yoram Hazony, but also by more mainstream writers like The New York Post’s Sohrab Amari—reject universal reason as a basis for laws and government. They mourn the institutions, values, and hierarchies that secular rationalism has laid to waste in the name of progress. They see the global rise of right-wing populism as evidence of a profound and widespread if inchoate dissatisfaction with the Enlightenment legacy of pluralism, the primacy of individual rights, and the hard separation of church and state. Lockean ideas about “liberty” have led to an “Epicurean liberalism” that consecrates “the right to choose your own meaning, define your own values, emancipate yourself from God by creating your own self,” Hawley has said. The post-liberals propose an alt-liberty grounded in place and tradition, bound by social relations and obligations, rooted in the Bible.

For the post-liberals, Big Tech is basically Armageddon. In his post-liberal manifesto, Why Liberalism Failed, Hideo Kojima calls technology an “anticulture, a tradition-destroying and custom-undermining dynamic that replaces cultural practices, memory, and beliefs, [and] now seems to be leading us ineluctably into a condition of bondage.”
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37933 on: July 25, 2019, 11:37:15 AM »
When they thought the were the silent majority they were the so-called Moral Majority. Now that it's clear that they're not they're running around giving themselves permission to be American Muʿtazila. :lol

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37934 on: July 25, 2019, 12:17:45 PM »
More importantly, why does he feel the need to post them here when nobody cares?

I care
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37935 on: July 25, 2019, 01:12:01 PM »
The ClintonBodyCount is trending so the journo's are jumping to her defense but saying that the people who cooked up the conspiracy are now dead is not helping  :lol
https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1154385960542658566
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37937 on: July 25, 2019, 02:19:55 PM »
John McAfee must've really spooked them
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« Reply #37938 on: July 25, 2019, 03:10:38 PM »
RIP Hillary
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37939 on: July 25, 2019, 03:16:03 PM »
DNC has settled on the first promise for their 2020 presidential platform : they'll definitely impeach Trump of the Dem nominee wins the election.
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37940 on: July 25, 2019, 04:17:36 PM »


3) Why would southern whites vote for Republicans for federal office before they would for local office? Alabama and Mississippi didn't see the statehouses change over until the wave election in 2010, and it's hard to think that George W. Bush's track record with the economy is what won them over.


Sorry, I don't have time to address all the q's right now, but I've spoken in the past how (at the local level) dominance by one party completely eradicates viable opposition. Generations of this create a vacuum where no serious person even tries to run for the opposition party because they know it's (demographically) a lost cause. The outliers are those that can parlay local celebrity or influence to overcome that. It's why someone like 'Joe the Plumber' gets to run for a seat in Lucas county (a Democrat stronghold). That's a manifestation of a party that has been defeated for decades and are willing to try anything.

When presented with a binary choice, making the leap to another national candidate is much easier because you're presented with better quality candidates (presumably). At the local level, it takes many years for a party to start to get better candidates into their pool when they have been historically seen as losers.


Kara

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37941 on: July 25, 2019, 05:02:16 PM »
https://newrepublic.com/article/154526/josh-hawley-real

"The Edmund Burke Foundation" :dead

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In high school, Hawley wrote a column for his  local paper, The Lexington News, that demonstrated a precocious interest in the culture war. “It will take great insight, understanding, and courage to successfully lead this nation through the rough waters ahead,” wrote a 14-year-old Hawley in 1994. “Maybe we should be carefully listening for the leader who starts by saying something VERY unpopular because he believes in it and lives it, a man who takes the ridicule but doesn’t back off. Perhaps that person is ... Dan Quayle.”

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His stump speech often attacked McCaskill’s support for a state university system that Hawley dismissed as a pipeline for leftist ideological indoctrination. Among other things, this culture war plaint was a brazen gambit for a rich kid whose start-to-finish private education cost $500,000. The attacks on McCaskill—who waitressed her way through two degrees at Mizzou—failed to generate much grassroots excitement, but then Hawley never needed it.

 :money :bedroomeyes

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The fighting post-libs deny that they are merely “reverse-engineering an intellectual doctrine to match Trump’s basic instincts,” as Jacob Heilbrunn described the shared assessment of the left and conventional right. But there doesn’t appear to be a basis for any other conclusion. As men of morals who define themselves against liberalism’s crassness, materialism, and lack of self-restraint, they either support or show sympathy for a presidential caricature of the Seven Deadly Sins. As professed walkers of a high road that ostensibly never intersects with racism or ethno-nationalism, they have nothing to say about the racism and nativism that now disfigures American life under Trump.

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Hazony’s case for a post-liberal nationalism is not all Burke and the Bible. There are also references foreboding darker directions for post-liberalism. As Gabriel Schoenfeld notes in a piece at The Bulwark, an anti-Trump conservative website, Hazony quotes Johann Gottfried Herder, the eighteenth-century German poet and theorist of Volk nationalism, on the dangers of “the wild mixing of races and nationalities under one scepter.” But Hazony denies that Hitler’s Reich has any place in a discussion of post-liberal nationalism, because Hitler was not a nationalist, but an imperialist, which makes him a universalist—and hence a permutation of liberalism.

 :science

Nintex

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37942 on: July 25, 2019, 05:58:51 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1154501344323080192

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1154502673514684416

"Hey, do you remember when Donald Trump sanctioned Sweden for not releasing A$AP Rocky. Man, those were the days."
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37943 on: July 25, 2019, 06:01:03 PM »
 :lol :lol :lol :lol
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« Reply #37944 on: July 25, 2019, 06:07:15 PM »
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1154509601926275072

Give Rocky his FREEDOM stolen by the Swedish oppressors!!

 :salute
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Kara

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37945 on: July 25, 2019, 06:08:27 PM »
Trump made into a giant dad yet again. :lol

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37946 on: July 25, 2019, 07:07:23 PM »
A$AP Rocky getting Midsommar’d in Sweden, rip.
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37947 on: July 25, 2019, 07:13:02 PM »
liberation of sweden when


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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37949 on: July 25, 2019, 07:37:24 PM »
I look forward to the tweets about how everyone was saying that Sweden had all that Nazi gold but he didn't think that and the invasion just proved him right. 

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37951 on: July 25, 2019, 07:44:03 PM »
I'm not clicking on anything with a url of pedogate in it.

Kara

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37952 on: July 25, 2019, 08:32:14 PM »
Don't want to step on the riotous brand here but could we please not traffic in conspiracy theories (even for le epic trolls) itt.

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« Reply #37953 on: July 25, 2019, 08:33:52 PM »
but you don't have the biggus dickus gravitas of riot

 :fbm

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37954 on: July 25, 2019, 08:40:30 PM »
it contained a Sinair Media accredited News STATION ABC 15 video

 :bolo

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37955 on: July 25, 2019, 09:13:51 PM »
Y’all don’t even read the gateway to all things pizzagate and pedogate? How do you stay informed?

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37956 on: July 25, 2019, 10:54:33 PM »

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« Reply #37957 on: July 25, 2019, 10:55:25 PM »
he's surging!
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« Reply #37958 on: July 25, 2019, 11:00:01 PM »
hickenloopers outchea hulking up
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« Reply #37960 on: July 25, 2019, 11:27:08 PM »
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This week Stella also described Minneapolis as “the crime capital of our country”. She has in the past complained that local police were “overworked and overburdened” and said that, if elected, she would work to reduce crime.
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37961 on: July 26, 2019, 12:13:06 AM »
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The report said Stella was arrested for alleged misdemeanour theft for taking “cat merchandise” and cat food valued at $40.46. She was issued with a citation and given a date to appear in court. It was not clear whether authorities would pursue the contempt of court allegation. pursue the contempt of court allegation.

For the crime capital of the country the police here sure are able to mobilize resources for de minimis crime.

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37962 on: July 26, 2019, 01:18:48 AM »


filler, stop calling in to the David Pacman show  :lol

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« Reply #37963 on: July 26, 2019, 02:15:17 AM »
I know Daniella Stella got nudes out there somewhere.

Kara

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37964 on: July 26, 2019, 05:26:48 AM »
tfw even BuzzFeed has ruthless headlines indicting da system

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/turning-26-type-1-diabetes

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37970 on: July 26, 2019, 12:05:03 PM »
https://twitter.com/AlxThomp/status/1154763001016328192
Biden is going for the most stable voting block of all. The boomers. Many of whom switched from Obama to Trump.
He's right, the young people, minorities etc. they can't be relied upon to show up and vote.

The key to winning is to take away voters from Trump, not to add even more voters in New York and San Francisco.
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« Reply #37971 on: July 26, 2019, 12:15:17 PM »
An NLRB complaint against the Bernie campaign was filed. Tax Haven Joe sure is scared for a guy who's going to win from pole position and then barely win or barely lose in the general.

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« Reply #37972 on: July 26, 2019, 12:35:49 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1154791664625606657

First Sweden now France.  :lol

And unless "American Wine" == Coca Cola. I thought Donny didn't drink  :thinking
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« Reply #37973 on: July 26, 2019, 01:00:21 PM »
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« Reply #37974 on: July 26, 2019, 01:12:14 PM »
https://twitter.com/danzu72/status/1154637433688002560

 :nugenix

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... she’s gotta be one of the worst candidates in modern times. Where did they find this chick?

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37975 on: July 26, 2019, 02:25:54 PM »
I think that thing TA was saying applies there

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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37976 on: July 26, 2019, 02:29:13 PM »
The Steele dossier is getting the Russians so much mileage. I still wonder how Steele fell for it  :lol
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« Reply #37977 on: July 26, 2019, 02:30:21 PM »
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Re: U.S. Politics |OT| Trump's being a racist grandpa again
« Reply #37979 on: July 26, 2019, 02:58:14 PM »
Russia Targeted Election Systems in All 50 States, Report Finds

 — The Senate Intelligence Committee concluded Thursday that election systems in all 50 states were targeted by Russia in 2016, an effort more far-reaching than previously acknowledged and one largely undetected by the states and federal officials at the time.

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The report — the first volume of several to be released from the committee’s investigation into Russia’s 2016 election interference — came 24 hours after the former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III warned that Russia was moving again to interfere “as we sit here.”

While details of many of the hackings directed by Russian intelligence, particularly in Illinois and Arizona, are well known, the committee described “an unprecedented level of activity against state election infrastructure” intended largely to search for vulnerabilities in the security of the election systems.
New Senate Intelligence report shows “extensive” Russia 2016 election interference

The Senate Intelligence Committee has just released the first section of its report on 2016 Russian interference, which found that hackers likely tried to access election systems in all 50 states, confirming widespread fears that America’s election system may not be secure from attack.

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The document released on Thursday afternoon — one day after former special counsel Robert Mueller testified in front of Congress on his effort — is not the entirety of the committee’s findings. It’s one of five volumes the panel will release over the coming month. This report focuses specifically on Russian efforts to infiltrate election infrastructure — that is, the actual systems that allow citizens to vote across the country.

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“The facts are clear: The Russian government mounted a deliberate and systematic attack on America’s election infrastructure in 2016,” Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), a member of the committee and a 2020 presidential candidate, said in an emailed statement to reporters.

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It concluded that while there was no evidence that any votes were changed in actual voting machines, “Russian cyberactors were in a position to delete or change voter data” in the Illinois voter database. The committee found no evidence that they did so.
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The report did not find any evidence that hackers were able to change votes.

But because there was no discernible pattern, intelligence professionals and other US officials believe Russia likely aimed to gain access to any systems it could to better understand what it all looks like.

“What it mostly looked like to us was reconnaissance,” Michael Daniel, a top cybersecurity official at the White House during the Obama administration, told the committee in 2017.
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Luckily, the panel found “no evidence that any votes were changed or that any voting machines were manipulated” across the entirety of the voting infrastructure. What’s more, it looks like Russian actors didn’t even try to manipulate the vote on election day in 2016, though the report notes that “the Committee and IC’s [intelligence community’s] insight into this is limited.”

So the report apparently found Russia’s infiltration was seemingly more a fact-finding mission than anything else, not really an attempt to directly alter the vote count. That may sound reassuring, but the worry is that Moscow could potentially do more damage in the future.
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The heavily redacted report contains almost entirely known information, so in that sense it’s not a bombshell document.
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[most activity was] simple scanning for vulnerabilities, analogous to somebody walking down the street and looking to see if you are home. A small number of systems were unsuccessfully exploited, as though somebody had rattled the doorknob but was unable to get in.

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[most states] interpreted the events of 2016 as a success story: firewalls deflected the hostile activity, as they were supposed to, so the threat was not an issue.

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Alternatively, Moscow may have sought to undermine confidence in the 2016 U.S. elections simply through the discovery of their activity.
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