US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[thisismyusername]

Too big; didn't read.

Unlike PD, who is for the big.

[agrajag]

guys is it just me or does Sarah Huckabee Sanders look just like John Candy? Uncle Buck up in this motherfuck

[Stro]

guys is it just me or does Sarah Huckabee Sanders look just like John Candy? Uncle Buck up in this motherfuck

Get over it, dawg. At this point you're being absurd.

[Trent Dole]

[Dickie Dee]

Another part of your overall plan, the tax reform plan. Is it OK if that tax plan increases the deficit? Ronald Reagan’s tax reform didn’t.
Well, it actually did. But, but it’s called priming the pump. You know, if you don’t do that, you’re never going to bring your taxes down. Now, if we get the health-care [bill through Congress], this is why, you know a lot of people said, “Why isn’t he going with taxes first, that’s his wheelhouse?” Well, hey look, I convinced many people over the last two weeks, believe me, many Congressmen, to go with it. And they’re great people, but one of the great things about getting health care is that we will be saving, I mean anywhere from $400bn to $900bn.

Mr Mnuchin: Correct.
President Trump: That all goes into tax reduction. Tremendous savings.

But beyond that it’s OK if the tax plan increases the deficit?
It is OK, because it won’t increase it for long. You may have two years where you’ll… you understand the expression “prime the pump”?

Yes.
We have to prime the pump.

It’s very Keynesian.
We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world. Have you heard that expression before, for this particular type of an event?

Priming the pump?
Yeah, have you heard it?

Yes.
Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven’t heard it. I mean, I just… I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good. It’s what you have to do.

It’s…
Yeah, what you have to do is you have to put something in before you can get something out.

 

[Mupepe]

Folks on my more conservative forums are already bringing up the Al Gore internet crap.  It's amazing how much slack they give this guy.

[Dickie Dee]

This Time article is pretty amazing too,

http://time.com/donald-trump-after-hours/

[Joe Molotov]

Prime the pump. What does that mean? To prime the pump.

[zomgee]

Ok then we're going to kick start the economy then. Kick start. I just thought of that.

[agrajag]

Prime the pump. What does that mean? To prime the pump.

It's something you do woth ur girl you gotta put something in b4 you get it out

[Joe Molotov]

EDITOR’S NOTE: This story has been updated to more precisely describe White House press secretary Sean Spicer’s location late Tuesday night in the minutes before he briefed reporters. Spicer huddled with his staff among bushes near television sets on the White House grounds, not “in the bushes,” as the story originally stated.

Constitutional crisis averted.

[Brehvolution]

Give trump a little credit. We've never tried tax cuts for the wealthy before and have no historical data to say that it won't stimulate the economy.

[Great Rumbler]

Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven’t heard it. I mean, I just… I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good. It’s what you have to do.

From 2016:

And he has little patience for the organizing principle of the Tea Party: the idea that the federal government must live within its means and lower its debts. Instead, he seems to favor expensive new infrastructure spending and tax cuts as economic stimulus, much like Obama did in 2009. “Well, sometimes you have to prime the pump,” he says.

From later in 2016:

We are also going to lower our business tax rate from 35 percent all the way down to 15 percent. That’s going to be big. Going to prime the pump. Got to prime the pump. Got to get the jobs. Got 96 million people out there. We got to get them going.

And from today:

I came up with it a couple of days ago.

[Joe Molotov]

Trump: You know the catapult is quite important. So I said what is this? Sir, this is our digital catapult system. He said well, we’re going to this because we wanted to keep up with modern [technology]. I said you don’t use steam anymore for catapult? No sir. I said, "Ah, how is it working?" "Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air."

It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said–and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said what system are you going to be–"Sir, we’re staying with digital." I said no you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.

That sounds like something that happened.

[Great Rumbler]

Trump on Monday during an interview with Time reacted to testimony earlier the same day by former acting Attorney General Sally Yates and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper in a Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing.

“Watch them start to choke like dogs,” Trump said, as quoted by Time. “Watch what happens. They are desperate for breath.”

When Clapper hesitated, according to the report, Trump said: “Ah, he’s choking. Ah, look.”

According to Time, Trump’s recordings of the Senate hearing were saved among recordings of cable news shows, which are the President’s preferred means of consuming news and have informed both his public statements and his hiring choices.

“Yes. He was choking on that,” Trump said, responding to another of Clapper’s statements before the President fast-forwarded ahead through the hearing. “This is one of the great inventions of all time—TiVo.”

 

[Joe Molotov]

They choked like a Romney, I'll get stuff done.

[toku]

https://twitter.com/lispower1/status/862674754695823360

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/trump-james-comey-nbc/index.html

"I was going to fire Comey," Trump told NBC News' Lester Holt in an interview. "Regardless of the recommendation I was going to fire Comey."

The White House initially said Rosenstein's memorandum to Attorney General Jeff Sessions prompted Trump to fire Comey, but Trump contradicted that account, saying he had already planned to do so and requested a memo to back up his decision.

I mean, obviously we all knew this, but to still just come out and say this...

[Great Rumbler]

Trump just threw everybody who lied for him over the past few days directly under the wheels of the bus.

[Stro]

Your last two posts are stupid as all fuck, Dufus.

If anything it's like, subtract Comey and Hillary wins, subtract Comey and have Hillary run a better campaign, landslide.

I'd argue that his July 5th press conference is a big reason why it was even close. When he presented his personal opinion that Clinton was extremely careless as if it were an official legal finding, Obama should have started the firing process that very moment.

Speaking of, it's somewhat baffling to hear Republicans complain that the DOJ should be making prosecutorial decisions, not the FBI Director. Do these people think Lynch and her people were just chomping at the bit to indict Hillary, but Comey stepped in to prevent it? What's the actual grievance here?

This is why no one likes your posts, fucko

[brawndolicious]

http://www.wbaltv.com/article/fbi-searching-annapolis-fundraiserconsulting-firm/9639787

ANNAPOLIS, Md. —
The FBI confirms agents are executing a search warrant at an office of a GOP fundraiser/consulting firm in Annapolis, the 11 News I-Team has learned.

Sounds like somebody's in trouble.

[CatsCatsCats]

Wow if true

[Raist]

I was just in an office literally 1h ago. Shaking right now.

[FStop7]

I was accepting Russian bribe money just last week.  Legit shook rn.

[Joe Molotov]

I had a fundraiser once, shook off the planet.

[Great Rumbler]

I was on the planet once. Stay safe, brehs.

[pizzashit]

I was posting on gaf once, fuck

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/ericlach/status/862766796453052416
 

[Dickie Dee]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/862767872879325185

laughing up their sleeves

[Syph]

laughing up their sleeves, i just came up with that

[Joe Molotov]

It makes more sense in the original Russian, comrade.

[agrajag]

It makes more sense in the original Russian, comrade.

Seriously people, calm down. He's just acting according to his competence.

[zomgee]

Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia

[Great Rumbler]

Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia Russia

And don't forget Russia.

[Great Rumbler]

Last night I was reading through the TPM email box when I saw this note from TPM Reader JG. As has happened so many times over the years I thought it was a game try but it simply couldn’t be right. And yet …

Well, let’s look at the email.

I think that almost all of the coverage is overlooking the most important element of the Trump-Comey story. And you are yourself my guide here, with Trump’s Razor. Does all this have something to do with the Russia investigation? Sure. But this is REALLY about the “mildly nauseous” comment. You and I know that Comey meant that the idea that he might have influenced an election made him feel sick. Trump heard that as “you make me sick,” as a personal attack. So, fuck you, he had to go. It’s the dumbest explanation that fits all the available information. Trump can’t think strategically enough to have done this to impede the Russia investigation, or as a Candide-like execution to scare off others (I think the analogy came from Slate).

I mean, please, right? I appreciate the reference to Trump’s Razor. But this can’t have been it. JG sent in his note at 6:49 PM eastern, I think significantly in advance of any of the reporting which, mind-bogglingly, appears to confirm JG’s analysis (relying on the heuristic of Trump’s Razor, let’s be clear).

From CNN …

Several people familiar with the decision say the President grew increasingly frustrated at Comey after his congressional hearing last Wednesday when he testified that he was “mildly nauseous” over the idea that he helped sway the election. Even the health care victory in the House one day later couldn’t take his mind off Comey, two people close to Trump said.

“He wouldn’t hear it (that he should be encouraged),” the friend said. “It’s Russia. Russia. Trump and Russia.” The President complained, with expletives, about Comey’s “mildly nauseous” answer and said his answer when pressed on leaks convinced the President he was far less concerned about the leaks than Trump thought he should be.

And Politico …

People close to the White House say Pence knew the president was thinking about firing Comey before he met with Rosenstein on Monday. Trump, these people said, was frustrated with Comey’s testimony and the growing Russia investigation scrutiny into his campaign. He also disliked Comey’s testimony last week on Capitol Hill, particularly the FBI director’s use of the word “nauseous” to describe his reaction to the idea that he may have influenced the election.

I really have nothing to add. I wouldn’t have anticipated it. I couldn’t quite believe it when JG suggested it. And yet, Trump’s Razor is simply never wrong. So there it is.

So...there you go. Trump is not a Machiavellian/Mafia Don mastermind trying to stop the Russian investigation, but rather a thin-skinned child throwing a temper tantrum.

[chronovore]

...and he's got access to the "Nuclear Football."  Someone prone to tantrums has access to their ability to destroy the world. Fan-fucking-tastic.

White House furious after being trolled with Russia Oval Office photos:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/oval-office-photos-donald-trump-russians/index.html
"What are we supposed to do?" the official asked. "Not meet with the Russians?"

 Maybe don't meet with them in our country's  "master bedroom." Maybe take them on one of those golfing trips you you are so fond of.

[chronovore]

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/a-message-from-interim-fbi-director-kid-rock

 

[Great Rumbler]

What did Trump think those pictures were going to be used for? Putin's scrapbook?

[Madrun Badrun]

[Nola]

WASHINGTON — Only seven days after Donald J. Trump was sworn in as president, James B. Comey has told associates, the F.B.I. director was summoned to the White House for a one-on-one dinner with the new commander in chief.

The conversation that night in January, Mr. Comey now believes, was a harbinger of his downfall this week as head of the F.B.I., according to two people who have heard his account of the dinner.

As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies. The president then turned the conversation to whether Mr. Comey would pledge his loyalty to him.

Mr. Comey declined to make that pledge. Instead, Mr. Comey has recounted to others, he told Mr. Trump that he would always be honest with him, but that he was not “reliable” in the conventional political sense.

By Mr. Comey’s account, his answer to Mr. Trump’s initial question apparently did not satisfy the president, the associates said. Later in the dinner, Mr. Trump again said to Mr. Comey that he needed his loyalty.

Mr. Comey again replied that he would give him “honesty” and did not pledge his loyalty, according to the account of the conversation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65284618&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0

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As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies.

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[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/Richard_Kadrey/status/862475712891977728

[Boredfrom]

WASHINGTON — Only seven days after Donald J. Trump was sworn in as president, James B. Comey has told associates, the F.B.I. director was summoned to the White House for a one-on-one dinner with the new commander in chief.

The conversation that night in January, Mr. Comey now believes, was a harbinger of his downfall this week as head of the F.B.I., according to two people who have heard his account of the dinner.

As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies. The president then turned the conversation to whether Mr. Comey would pledge his loyalty to him.

Mr. Comey declined to make that pledge. Instead, Mr. Comey has recounted to others, he told Mr. Trump that he would always be honest with him, but that he was not “reliable” in the conventional political sense.

By Mr. Comey’s account, his answer to Mr. Trump’s initial question apparently did not satisfy the president, the associates said. Later in the dinner, Mr. Trump again said to Mr. Comey that he needed his loyalty.

Mr. Comey again replied that he would give him “honesty” and did not pledge his loyalty, according to the account of the conversation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65284618&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0

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As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies.

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Trump is truly a dumb motherfucker. If he was not born rich, he will be Chris Chan.

[TakingBackSunday]

remember when we had barack obama as president

[Human Snorenado]

Watching that Lester Holt interview like...

http://alexanderlozada.com/iasip/?IlRoZSBHYW5nIE9ic3RydWN0cyBKdXN0aWNlIg==

[Great Rumbler]

remember when we had barack obama as president

Feels like a lifetime ago, breh.

[CatsCatsCats]

Lets just impeach Trump already so Pence can start his Handmaid's Tale fanfic

[chronovore]

Lets just impeach Trump already so Pence can start his Handmaid's Tale fanfic

The only path to happiness is if Trump is impeached/quits/dies, and Pence takes over the reins, only to have the movie plot of Dave occur, but instead of Kevin Kline, we get Hot Pence to take his place.

[benjipwns]

remember when we had barack obama as president

wow look at the big brains on the history buff here throwing out obscure past presidents

[agrajag]

remember when we had barack obama as president

Remember when we had anyone not named Donald Trump as president?

[nachobro]

okay, this presidency has been worth it just for this image

[benjipwns]

people have already forgotten this ongoing crime against humanity:

Mr. Senecal, 74, who has worked at the [Mar-a-Lago] property for nearly 60 years, and for Mr. Trump for nearly 30 of them.

He understands Mr. Trump’s sleeping patterns and how he likes his steak (“It would rock on the plate, it was so well done”)

[Brehvolution]

WASHINGTON — Only seven days after Donald J. Trump was sworn in as president, James B. Comey has told associates, the F.B.I. director was summoned to the White House for a one-on-one dinner with the new commander in chief.

The conversation that night in January, Mr. Comey now believes, was a harbinger of his downfall this week as head of the F.B.I., according to two people who have heard his account of the dinner.

As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies. The president then turned the conversation to whether Mr. Comey would pledge his loyalty to him.

Mr. Comey declined to make that pledge. Instead, Mr. Comey has recounted to others, he told Mr. Trump that he would always be honest with him, but that he was not “reliable” in the conventional political sense.

By Mr. Comey’s account, his answer to Mr. Trump’s initial question apparently did not satisfy the president, the associates said. Later in the dinner, Mr. Trump again said to Mr. Comey that he needed his loyalty.

Mr. Comey again replied that he would give him “honesty” and did not pledge his loyalty, according to the account of the conversation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65284618&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0

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As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies.

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Trump is truly a dumb motherfucker. If he was not born rich, he will be Chris Chan.

IF he wasn't born rich he would be pumping gas in NJ and selling brick weed on the side.

[chronovore]

WASHINGTON — Only seven days after Donald J. Trump was sworn in as president, James B. Comey has told associates, the F.B.I. director was summoned to the White House for a one-on-one dinner with the new commander in chief.

The conversation that night in January, Mr. Comey now believes, was a harbinger of his downfall this week as head of the F.B.I., according to two people who have heard his account of the dinner.

As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies. The president then turned the conversation to whether Mr. Comey would pledge his loyalty to him.

Mr. Comey declined to make that pledge. Instead, Mr. Comey has recounted to others, he told Mr. Trump that he would always be honest with him, but that he was not “reliable” in the conventional political sense.

By Mr. Comey’s account, his answer to Mr. Trump’s initial question apparently did not satisfy the president, the associates said. Later in the dinner, Mr. Trump again said to Mr. Comey that he needed his loyalty.

Mr. Comey again replied that he would give him “honesty” and did not pledge his loyalty, according to the account of the conversation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/us/politics/trump-comey-firing.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=65284618&pgtype=Homepage&_r=0

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As they ate, the president and Mr. Comey made small talk about the election and the crowd sizes at Mr. Trump’s rallies.

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Trump is truly a dumb motherfucker. If he was not born rich, he will be Chris Chan.

IF he wasn't born rich he would be pumping gas in NJ and selling brick weed on the side.

…and living in a trailer park.

[benjipwns]

He probably would have gone to Vietnam actually. Unlike most other scumbags of his era (Cheney, Bush, etc.) he didn't game the system as easily as he could have. Did the limited amount of student deferments unlike Cheney. He actually got called up but if IIRC he actually had an semi-legitimate temporary foot injury when he showed up that got him a delay and then he lucked out by pulling a low number.

Of course, Trump had gone to a military academy as a teen and I think he's mentioned, in his bragging way about things you shouldn't brag about, that he might have liked to pursue it because he would be a badass soldier but you know he HAD to run the company and all.

In fact, considering all that, it's probably not far fetched to say he's a war hero.

[Raist]

laughing up their sleeves, i just came up with that

Hum, it's an actual saying?

[seagrams hotsauce]

That Lester Holt interview is something else mane. Imagine being that shitty at lying in any other aspect of your life. Dude's whole demeanor is like a high school kid forging a sick note from their parents. "Also please remember that Seagrams Hotsauce has had a perfect attendance record and gets all A's, all of the time, no matter how stupid and ugly Mrs Macintosh is!"

[Atramental]

okay, this presidency has been worth it just for this image

(Image removed from quote.)

[agrajag]

Our president, ladies and gentlemen.
 

[Madrun Badrun]

Wouldn't this be enough to ask any one subpoena'd if there are tapes and if they say yes to get all such tapes?

[FStop7]

We had the "I'm no crook" moment, the Frost/Nixon moment (Trump's tacit admission to Holt that firing Comey ws about Russia) and now the "tapes" moment in the space of 2 days.  Warpspeed Watergate.

I don't know much about law enforcement but what little I do know says this is basically how guilty people behave: they drop hints and allude to the things they've done because they either have a need to be caught or a need to brag about what they've done.