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« Reply #6240 on: May 23, 2017, 02:24:53 PM »
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« Reply #6244 on: May 23, 2017, 02:41:11 PM »
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« Reply #6245 on: May 23, 2017, 02:49:01 PM »
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If my evidence is required to be given in the United States I would be prepared to do so if appropriate arrangements are made. I would need a guarantee from Special Counsel Mueller, on behalf of the United States, of safe passage from New Zealand to the United States and back.
Not what he's investigating dude :doge

Which proves we need a special prosecutor for the Seth Rich case.

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« Reply #6246 on: May 23, 2017, 02:54:12 PM »
If Mueller investigates the Russian connection and interference, then evidence that the DNC leak was Seth Rich ant not Russian hacking would be relevant. If he thinks Mueller's everyday job is investigator then he's herpaderping.

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« Reply #6247 on: May 23, 2017, 03:03:45 PM »
I KNOW THAT SETCH RICH WAS INVOLVED IN THE DNC LEAK.

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« Reply #6248 on: May 23, 2017, 03:06:07 PM »
DNC e-mails != John Podesta's

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« Reply #6250 on: May 23, 2017, 03:12:44 PM »
True. Could be two very different sources on those leaks.


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« Reply #6252 on: May 23, 2017, 04:15:20 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/23/statement-on-coverage-seth-rich-murder-investigation.amp.html

Whoops

Shows how powerful the puppet masters are. Even Fox has to bow and kiss the ring. Sad.

One of the really amusing things about right-wing conspiracy theories is that every so often, shit gets to the point even the people who were initially peddling the conspiracy have to take a step back, which then makes them somehow part of the initial conspiracy by other right-wing conspiracy theorists.

Just goes to show how powerful the Democrat machine's reach really is.

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« Reply #6253 on: May 23, 2017, 04:16:15 PM »
Also, kimdotcom  :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf


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« Reply #6255 on: May 23, 2017, 04:33:58 PM »
Just when I thought etoilet couldn't get any worse.  :neogaf
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« Reply #6256 on: May 23, 2017, 04:52:15 PM »
Tonight on Hannity: Did Seth Rich have broads in Atlanta?

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« Reply #6257 on: May 23, 2017, 04:56:09 PM »
Waitaminute...



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« Reply #6258 on: May 23, 2017, 04:56:24 PM »
True. Could be two very different sources on those leaks.



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« Reply #6259 on: May 23, 2017, 04:57:49 PM »
Waitaminute...

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« Reply #6260 on: May 23, 2017, 05:27:02 PM »
http://www.dailywire.com/news/16773/hannity-still-pushing-seth-rich-conspiracy-murder-ben-shapiro

Ben Shapiro also demanding a cover-up regarding investigations of (((powerful forces)))? I'm shocked!

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« Reply #6261 on: May 23, 2017, 05:31:25 PM »
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norcal sucks • 3 hours ago
I am surprised by the amount of push-back by conservatives on this. Why wouldn't folks be investigating this like Hannity is? The murder is unsolved and at this point, the amount of "smoke" coming from this incident seems to indicate a fire. Assange and Kim have a pretty good track record of putting things out that are true. If Rich was the source, then the entire Russian narrative is DEAD. I would think more people would want to get to the bottom of it instead of blasting the conspiracy siren
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BR  • 3 hours ago
There's all kinds of evidence here, or at least potential evidence here, I don't understand the push back from conservatives like Ben Shapiro either. Rod Wheeler, Kim Dotcom, Julian Assange makes three potential witnesses, and the presence of democratic party operatives speaking for the family speaks volumes. Au Contraire Sharpiro, please continue Hannity, this story is miles and miles from being debunked.
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Dickey121 • 3 hours ago
Hey Shapiro - There is plenty of evidence. Just because the MSM doesn't push it doesn't mean it isn't there. WTF is wrong with you anyway? You always try to play devils advocate so as to cater to the other side. You're great on the topic of SJW's and and whats right and wrong with our education system but then you constantly send out BS like this article. Tired of it. You have MSM qualities.

His name was Seth Rich. Never forget. Truth will come out.
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Berean  zombie_trump_follower • an hour ago
I'm wondering: Is it more likely that Hannity is being suckered into going on and on about this instead of working to get Trump's alleged "Make America Great Again" Agenda moving forward, or
is it more likely that Hannity is trying to sucker his audience into not noticing that Trump's alleged "Make America Great Again" Agenda is going nowhere. I lean towards the dumber first explanation. Ann Coulter is measuring the wall so far: 0 (zero) miles built. I guess all those NYC liberals and Goldman-Sachs people aren't very good at building walls. Then again, after a decade, the Twin Towers were still a hole in the ground (increasing the terrorists' victory) while New York 'n Jersey bureaucrats had gotten themselves paid big money for that decade. Or is it union problems? I know, it's all Paul Ryan's and everybody but Trump's fault, just like the Democrat operative media (and Obama) explained nothing was ever Obama's fault, it was always somebody else.
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mptc • 3 hours ago
...as well as debunked by Newsweek, which reported that the FBI had no role in investigating Rich’s murder.
Really Ben? You include Newsweek as a competent source in debunking Hannity's claim? You might as well have not even wrote this piece.
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Derrik White • 3 hours ago
Shapiro if you actually did your research on this one, you'd see there is a lot of evidence that points towards Seth's death as a cover up. Your'e one of my favorite guys, but your missing it on this one.
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hrosenthal  • an hour ago
I think ben wants an establishment media deep state job and if he wants it, he has to play the role

norcal sucks  • an hour ago
I think this might be part of it, Ben has always been a go-to for me politically but Republicans need to get some balls and start fighting. We need a bridge between the infowars crowd and the dailywire
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« Reply #6262 on: May 23, 2017, 05:31:47 PM »
Man, I still don't like David Frum getting this Reasonable Conservative pass from people. I'm just not emotionally ready for this Ben Shapiro shit.

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« Reply #6263 on: May 23, 2017, 05:46:33 PM »
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« Reply #6264 on: May 23, 2017, 05:49:31 PM »
I was gonna write a post about how while Frum is bad, he's at least bad within a generally accepted American policy ideology blah blah blah...until I realized oh shit I'm basically saying neoconservatism is normal shit. It's pretty fucking terrible in fact and has done more harm than Trump thus far.

That being said, at least Frum isn't a Nazi sympathizer, alleged traitor, supportive of mentally unhinged politicians, etc. And at least he has some ideological diversity I guess (he supports universal healthcare). 
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« Reply #6265 on: May 23, 2017, 06:08:21 PM »

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« Reply #6266 on: May 23, 2017, 06:14:08 PM »
Calling Kim an internet troll is Shapiro just being out of the loop with internet stuff.

Kim ran a business and made a lot of money. He ran Megauploads, which lead to an illegal raid of his house. You've probably all used Megaupload for copyrighted shows.

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New Zealand law enforcement officials investigated the letter thoroughly and discovered without a shadow of a doubt that the letter was a forgery.

That's not really true. The e-mail could not be verified because it lacked appropriate headers. It was anonymously leaked. An office claimed it was a fraud, but that may have to do with the lack of IP trail meaning it cannot be verified. Difference between fraud and unverifiable. He was being spied on. That was part of the raid on his mansion, which is comical in reflection. Who the fuck needs a SWAT team to raid a rich weeaboo?

Tim Pool has been the one reasonable person on this, but that's perhaps because he is hooked into the internet and hacker community. He's also independent, has no bone in the Trump war, and has met and researched Kim's situation.



This is my last deal on this. I went back and checked on how long it took you guys to figure out that I was referencing a Fox News source and not Wheeler. The answer was F I V E   W H O L E    D A Y S.  I'm a patient lad, but not that patient and you aren't worthy of patience. You guys rely on bullying, mob behavior and dishonesty. I just wait and let time prove me right.

I would love if people that respond (because they will) to cite that they do not believe that Seth Rich was the leak and that it was a Russian hack. Would love that to be directly said by some of you.

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« Reply #6267 on: May 23, 2017, 06:15:14 PM »
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« Reply #6268 on: May 23, 2017, 06:18:01 PM »
I was gonna write a post about how while Frum is bad, he's at least bad within a generally accepted American policy ideology blah blah blah...until I realized oh shit I'm basically saying neoconservatism is normal shit. It's pretty fucking terrible in fact and has done more harm than Trump thus far.

That being said, at least Frum isn't a Nazi sympathizer, alleged traitor, supportive of mentally unhinged politicians, etc. And at least he has some ideological diversity I guess (he supports universal healthcare).
Frum doesn't really care how much you spend on social programs as long as you're bombing the right points on the map.

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« Reply #6269 on: May 23, 2017, 06:18:45 PM »
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I was referencing a Fox News source

One which even Fox News has now turned their backs on.
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« Reply #6271 on: May 23, 2017, 06:47:51 PM »
Fox News is an enemy of the state.
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« Reply #6272 on: May 23, 2017, 06:53:17 PM »
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« Reply #6273 on: May 23, 2017, 06:59:34 PM »
Calling Kim an internet troll is Shapiro just being out of the loop with internet stuff.

Kim ran a business and made a lot of money. He ran Megauploads, which lead to an illegal raid of his house. You've probably all used Megaupload for copyrighted shows.

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New Zealand law enforcement officials investigated the letter thoroughly and discovered without a shadow of a doubt that the letter was a forgery.

That's not really true. The e-mail could not be verified because it lacked appropriate headers. It was anonymously leaked. An office claimed it was a fraud, but that may have to do with the lack of IP trail meaning it cannot be verified. Difference between fraud and unverifiable. He was being spied on. That was part of the raid on his mansion, which is comical in reflection. Who the fuck needs a SWAT team to raid a rich weeaboo?

Tim Pool has been the one reasonable person on this, but that's perhaps because he is hooked into the internet and hacker community. He's also independent, has no bone in the Trump war, and has met and researched Kim's situation.



This is my last deal on this. I went back and checked on how long it took you guys to figure out that I was referencing a Fox News source and not Wheeler. The answer was F I V E   W H O L E    D A Y S.  I'm a patient lad, but not that patient and you aren't worthy of patience. You guys rely on bullying, mob behavior and dishonesty. I just wait and let time prove me right.

I would love if people that respond (because they will) to cite that they do not believe that Seth Rich was the leak and that it was a Russian hack. Would love that to be directly said by some of you.

Once again, name one instance in history where a right-wing conspiracy theory was proven right?

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« Reply #6274 on: May 23, 2017, 07:01:11 PM »
And at least he has some ideological diversity I guess (he supports universal healthcare).
He's Canadian :ufup

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« Reply #6275 on: May 23, 2017, 07:04:18 PM »
Oh Oblivion, he's going to wait F I V E  W H O L E  D A Y S before proving that he's right and you are wrong, because he's a patient lad.
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« Reply #6276 on: May 23, 2017, 07:08:05 PM »
I would love if people that respond (because they will) to cite that they do not believe that Seth Rich was the leak and that it was a Russian hack. Would love that to be directly said by some of you.
Guccifer 2.0 has claimed credit for the DNC hack/leak multiple times.

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« Reply #6277 on: May 23, 2017, 07:10:50 PM »
Guccifer 2.0 is Seth Rich, due to his love of Gucci, Satan, and early 2000's internet culture. 
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« Reply #6278 on: May 23, 2017, 07:11:20 PM »
Man, I still don't like David Frum getting this Reasonable Conservative pass from people. I'm just not emotionally ready for this Ben Shapiro shit.

Eh, he's like a less pretentious Avik Roy for me.

Their policy arguments more often then not are shit, but they are people that generally don't actively play into the post-truth, hyper-partisan nonsense that most American conservative's that have some sort of platform push.

So they can at least offer opinions that have some originality of thought and occasional worthwhile perspective.




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« Reply #6279 on: May 23, 2017, 07:15:49 PM »
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I've seen Frum bitch about UHC plenty of times, particularly when he brings up his home country, Canada.

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« Reply #6280 on: May 23, 2017, 07:19:00 PM »

Once again, name one instance in history where a right-wing conspiracy theory was proven right?

When your world-view is filtered through the Furtive Fallacy, you don't actually need proof.


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« Reply #6281 on: May 23, 2017, 07:31:49 PM »
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I've seen Frum bitch about UHC plenty of times, particularly when he brings up his home country, Canada.

Sort of, he actually has prescribed that the Republican party is ultimately on the wrong side of history with this issue. That the sooner they get past this and let the inevitable happen, or better yet get out in front of it, they can position themselves like conservatives do in so many other countries, and that is as the pragmatic reformers.

Which he makes the case has been very profitable for conservatives in countries like England, Canada, Australia, and other places in Europe.


I will admit though, a lot of my changed opinion on him stems from this interview and probably some of the shit others are rolling their eyes at:


(About 5 minutes long, starts around 43:00 talking about the philosophical failure of modern conservatives, including in healthcare.)
(Which to be clear I think a number of his arguments throughout are straight shit, like his diversity arguments.)

I am sure Benji can once again provide some quotes that will throw water on my admitted limited exposure of an interview, a few TV appearances, forgetfulness of his Bush era behavior, and some occasional op-eds.... And make a few Vox-splainer jokes to salt the wound.
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« Reply #6282 on: May 23, 2017, 07:45:56 PM »


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« Reply #6283 on: May 23, 2017, 07:46:48 PM »
I really can't wait for John McAfee to give supporting evidence to etiolate's delusions. 
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« Reply #6284 on: May 23, 2017, 08:22:51 PM »
B R E A K I N G  N E W S: jello biafra proves etiolate is the smartest man on internet forum?

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« Reply #6285 on: May 23, 2017, 08:27:08 PM »
I remember Amazon always recommending these books Benji posts cause I bought "The Forgotten Man" for my Freshman American History class.

I pwned my all liberal class by writing a report crushing their hero FDR. Also, I only read like 5 pages of the book.  :doge

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« Reply #6286 on: May 23, 2017, 09:02:47 PM »
Treasury Secretary Suggests Trump Opposes Border Adjustment Tax

wut

A border tax would hurt a lot of business, especially in Texas. Can't believe this is seriously being discussed.

Paul Ryan, economic genius ya'll
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« Reply #6287 on: May 23, 2017, 09:08:36 PM »
I remember Amazon always recommending these books Benji posts cause I bought "The Forgotten Man" for my Freshman American History class.

I pwned my all liberal class by writing a report crushing their hero FDR. Also, I only read like 5 pages of the book.  :doge
Unless I'm blanking on one, I still think this is like the ultimate impossible to top book of the conservative publishing boom era:

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« Reply #6288 on: May 23, 2017, 09:15:35 PM »
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5.0 out of 5 stars
Speaks the truth
By Jack on November 13, 2006
Format: Hardcover|Verified Purchase
In this age of political correctness, it's refreshing to read another point of view. As she points out, of the first 31,000 rounded up on the west coast 16,000 were Japanese. Of those 16000 about 5632 immediately renounced their US citizenship and asked to be deported to Japan. How would you feel if FDR's govt left the Japanese dual citizens on Terminal Island, CA or Bainbridge Island, WA and one of the dual citizens sent word that a troop transport ship was leaving the harbor with 10,000 or 15,000 troops headed out to the Pacific past Japanese submarines. My guess is that some of the liberals evaluating this book would never have a chance to be born!
BOOM. ROASTED.

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« Reply #6289 on: May 23, 2017, 09:25:21 PM »
from a cynical consequentialist POV there's something to be said about not being too fussy about new allies because of the "ever since 9/11 I've been outraged about Chappaquiddick" effect, which despite the name seems to work in both directions (some folks like Charles Johnson have round-tripped)
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« Reply #6290 on: May 23, 2017, 09:29:47 PM »
We'd all be speaking Japanese if it wasn't for those troop transport ships. I can't think of anything else that could have tipped the scales in our favor over there.
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« Reply #6291 on: May 23, 2017, 09:42:29 PM »
the internet and hacker community

lol
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« Reply #6292 on: May 23, 2017, 09:49:21 PM »
I remember Amazon always recommending these books Benji posts cause I bought "The Forgotten Man" for my Freshman American History class.

I pwned my all liberal class by writing a report crushing their hero FDR. Also, I only read like 5 pages of the book.  :doge
Unless I'm blanking on one, I still think this is like the ultimate impossible to top book of the conservative publishing boom era:
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Is this still the benchmark for selling out your own race? I'm not sure Allen West/Ben Carson/Sheriff Clark/D'Souza/etc have matched this.
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« Reply #6293 on: May 23, 2017, 09:52:43 PM »
We'd all be speaking Japanese if it wasn't for those troop transport ships. I can't think of anything else that could have tipped the scales in our favor over there.
"Message coming in from our spies in America, sir! Sending SHIPS with TROOPS on them into the PACIFIC. Stop. Please understand. Stop."

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« Reply #6294 on: May 23, 2017, 09:59:09 PM »
Is this still the benchmark for selling out your own race? I'm not sure Allen West/Ben Carson/Sheriff Clark/D'Souza/etc have matched this.
Naw, her parents are both Filipinos (and were both here on employer visas when they had her...she's an anchor baby) and Filipinos hate the Japanese so it's just good old fashioned ethnic conflict and authoritarian state excuse making.

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« Reply #6295 on: May 23, 2017, 10:37:50 PM »
All this time I thought she was Japanese.

I'm the racist.
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« Reply #6296 on: May 23, 2017, 10:41:57 PM »
Looks like they got to Hannity- he's not discussing Rich anymore "out of respect for the family"
 
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« Reply #6297 on: May 23, 2017, 10:44:37 PM »
We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.

Seth Rich's brother pleads with Hannity to stop spreading conspiracy theory

Shameful how the media is exploiting this family's tragedy in order to help cover up for the DNC and the Clintons.

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« Reply #6298 on: May 23, 2017, 11:07:13 PM »
We’re Seth Rich’s parents. Stop politicizing our son’s murder.

Seth Rich's brother pleads with Hannity to stop spreading conspiracy theory

Shameful how the media is exploiting this family's tragedy in order to help cover up for the DNC and the Clintons.

It looks like they've even cowed the family into complicity! We need etoliate to get to the bottom of this.

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