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« Reply #6300 on: May 23, 2017, 11:28:22 PM »
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/867172280350146561

50 part tweets are an abomination, but this felt like a decent read about why we aren't gonna be rid of Trump any time soon.

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« Reply #6302 on: May 23, 2017, 11:41:38 PM »
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/867183268936003584

More proof the MSM is in the pockets of liberals and globalist cucks alike.

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« Reply #6303 on: May 23, 2017, 11:44:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/867172280350146561

50 part tweets
THIS ONE SIMPLE FACT that takes fifty tweets to explain?

whatever happened to twitlonger or getting a blog or why is this a thing

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« Reply #6304 on: May 23, 2017, 11:48:39 PM »
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Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson  2h2 hours ago
 (46) So what we progressives need is *cognitive dissonance*: we must accept that there's a long way to go AND that all signs suggest CRIMES.

 Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson  2h2 hours ago
 (47) We must TUNE OUT sensationalistic major media, grandstanding Congressmen, social media tongue-wagging, and right-wing fake news/trolls.

 Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson  2h2 hours ago
 (48) What we get in return is NEAR-ASSURANCE this President WILL be IMPEACHED. It'll simply take, unfortunately, a LONG time to get there.

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« Reply #6305 on: May 23, 2017, 11:48:45 PM »
Psssh. Reading.
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« Reply #6306 on: May 23, 2017, 11:59:41 PM »
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Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson  2h2 hours ago
 (46) So what we progressives need is *cognitive dissonance*: we must accept that there's a long way to go AND that all signs suggest CRIMES.

 Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson  2h2 hours ago
 (47) We must TUNE OUT sensationalistic major media, grandstanding Congressmen, social media tongue-wagging, and right-wing fake news/trolls.

 Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson  2h2 hours ago
 (48) What we get in return is NEAR-ASSURANCE this President WILL be IMPEACHED. It'll simply take, unfortunately, a LONG time to get there.
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I guess I basically agree with this
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« Reply #6307 on: May 24, 2017, 12:00:03 AM »
What a scrub. Everyone knows you start off a twitter rant with It's Time For Some Game Theory

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« Reply #6308 on: May 24, 2017, 12:08:02 AM »
Seth Abramson was the "Bernie is actually winning" experimental fiction dude, right?

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« Reply #6309 on: May 24, 2017, 12:58:46 AM »
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/867172280350146561

50 part tweets
THIS ONE SIMPLE FACT that takes fifty tweets to explain?

whatever happened to twitlonger or getting a blog or why is this a thing

I don't know but I really hate it. Twitter's new reply format makes it even worse to read.
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« Reply #6310 on: May 24, 2017, 01:02:12 AM »
Yes: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/on-bernie-sanders-and-exp_b_10077684.html
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The minority report for the 2016 presidential election says that we are in the midst of the end-times for the major political parties — yes, both of them — and that Sanders and Trump are the Angel and Devil (as it were) of the metamodern Garden of Eden whose lush overgrowth we now find ourselves surrounded by. I spent the fall writing about the Devil for Metamoderna — Trump as a post-policy, post-truth, post-personality entity whose “angry optimism” so dynamically synchronizes with the mood of the nation that voting for it means voting for one’s own self-contradictory macro-feelings more so than a candidate, making Trump in a certain sense unbeatable — and I’ve now spent three months writing about the better angels of our newly metamodern nature. I’m thrilled to say that the latter writings, the ones about Bernie Sanders, have been infinitely more popular than the former.

The old journalism is dead because the Real as it constructs it no longer coincides with the Real as Millennials either experience it or (far more importantly) can imagine it. It speaks only to and into the past; the language it speaks in is deconstructive, but on a landscape so already deconstructed that every word it pumps into the ether is another kick to a dead horse; it speaks from a form of power — temporal, monetary, geopolitical — that won’t have currency in the decades to come. The chief currency today is of course virtual, and it’s attention. Not the cynical breed of attention we associate with the vocal ministrations of a carnival barker — though this is the future Trump would sell us if he could — but the attention to multi-dimensional narrative that actually creates possibility from impossibility. And that’s the only means of production Sanders is hoping his movement will come to control. Sandersism isn’t dying out, and won’t die out, because it is born not of so-last-century hash-taggable philosophies like #FeeltheMath or even the impotent rage of, say, #NeverHillary, but a commitment to turning the feeling that there are other realities out there than the ones we’re being exposed to into a way of life and not just a slogan.

So #FeeltheBern has nothing, finally, to do with Bernie Sanders.

What it means for the only generation that will matter in just a few short decades — Generation Y, (though of course even the term itself is a monstrosity born of the now-fully-past) — is that a journalism that simply instantiates the metanarrative of least resistance, and looks for whatever sequencing of phenomena would suggest the most synchronicity with the past (and present), is no longer palatable to the overwhelming majority of young people in this country. My present metanarrative for the 2016 presidential election is no more true or false, in the long-term, than the other ones now available, but it constructs something new rather than rehashing something old — and therefore has a special power that will continue to cause consternation to major media institutions and social media trolls the nation over. I’m told the Clinton folks don’t like it much, either.

Why? Because Bernie Sanders has won this election, and Hillary Clinton is only a ghost silently mouthing out the final lines of a play we’ve all seen before and an ever-increasing number of us no longer feel much need to return to. What Sanders offers, instead, is not the empty and passing affections produced by insubstantial rhetoric, but a robust and abiding love of possibility that loves the possible enough to go searching hopefully and without expectation in the only place that will finally matter to our grandkids — the wide-open, still-unwritten spaces that lie beyond it.


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A diagram from Seth Abramson's "Digital Age Culture & Theory" course

Abramson rejects the theory that he enjoys the attention of thousands of strangers. "Being misunderstood is my least favorite thing in the world," says the professor, "and I encourage it on a national level every single day."

He sees it as a patriotic sacrifice. He does not have children, but he imagines someday having to answer the question made famous by a World War I-era British military-recruitment campaign: "Daddy, what did you do during the Great War?"

"I want the answer to be, ‘I did everything I could,’" he says. "Does that mean Daddy won the war? No. It means Daddy was a soldier. And soldiering is not fun."

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« Reply #6311 on: May 24, 2017, 01:15:22 AM »
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« Reply #6312 on: May 24, 2017, 01:30:37 AM »
Seth Abramson was the "Bernie is actually winning" experimental fiction dude, right?

Yes, he is.

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« Reply #6314 on: May 24, 2017, 04:38:34 AM »


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« Reply #6315 on: May 24, 2017, 06:21:53 AM »
Even if the email leak was from elsewhere there's plenty of other shit tying the campaign to Vladdy.
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« Reply #6317 on: May 24, 2017, 07:34:47 AM »
So this is really an actual thing not just confined to complete wingnuts?

It was promoted on one of the biggest show of the foremost news network in America and peddled by a former Speaker of the House. I mean...
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« Reply #6318 on: May 24, 2017, 07:39:28 AM »
Super Deep Above Top Secret Electronic Toilet Hole


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« Reply #6320 on: May 24, 2017, 12:12:21 PM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-submarines-idUSKBN18K15Y

EDIT : "Incorrect" news as apparently there's nothing sensitive about this info and the presence of the two subs was mostly made public.

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« Reply #6321 on: May 24, 2017, 12:41:53 PM »
So this is really an actual thing not just confined to complete wingnuts?

It was promoted on one of the biggest show of the foremost news network in America and peddled by a former Speaker of the House. I mean...

Every major right wing outlet you turned to ran the story non-stop after the Russia intelligence leak.

Like clockwork, Fox, Drudge, Breitbart, Infowars, talk radio, Washington Times, NY Post, they all ran with the story.

You would of thought the left's version of the Nixon Watergate tapes just dropped.

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« Reply #6322 on: May 24, 2017, 03:05:10 PM »


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« Reply #6323 on: May 24, 2017, 03:32:35 PM »
So this is really an actual thing not just confined to complete wingnuts?

It was promoted on one of the biggest show of the foremost news network in America and peddled by a former Speaker of the House. I mean...

Every major right wing outlet you turned to ran the story non-stop after the Russia intelligence leak.

Like clockwork, Fox, Drudge, Breitbart, Infowars, talk radio, Washington Times, NY Post, they all ran with the story.

You would of thought the left's version of the Nixon Watergate tapes just dropped.

They will run whatever is getting pushed by /r/the_donald, /pol/, etc. at this point
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« Reply #6325 on: May 24, 2017, 04:10:22 PM »
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/867172280350146561

50 part tweets are an abomination, but this felt like a decent read about why we aren't gonna be rid of Trump any time soon.

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« Reply #6326 on: May 24, 2017, 04:43:38 PM »
On the flip side, soon we will be a nation of very healthy people.
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« Reply #6327 on: May 24, 2017, 04:56:20 PM »
That is absolutely atrocious  :neogaf
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« Reply #6328 on: May 24, 2017, 05:01:10 PM »
Could be worse : He could tack on a contribution for the border wall on premiums.
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« Reply #6329 on: May 24, 2017, 05:01:33 PM »


 :woody :woody :woody :woody

edit: aw fuck.  tweet was deleted.
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« Reply #6330 on: May 24, 2017, 05:31:24 PM »
On the flip side, soon we will be a nation of very healthy people.

You can't get sick if you're already dead.  :rollsafe

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« Reply #6331 on: May 24, 2017, 05:33:36 PM »
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/867172280350146561



"Experienced criminal investigator"?

His bio says he was a lawyer at a Public Defender's office in New Hampshire from 2001 to 2007

Being a defence lawyer does not make you a "criminal investigator", duder.

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« Reply #6332 on: May 24, 2017, 05:42:28 PM »
What in the FUCK.  David is no longer the host of FP's ER podcast.

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« Reply #6333 on: May 24, 2017, 05:51:18 PM »
Yea...this would not have passed the House if the CBO report came out first.
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« Reply #6334 on: May 24, 2017, 05:51:26 PM »
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752

CBO analysis for the revised AHCA bill is out.

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CBO and JCT estimate that, in 2018, 14 million more people would be uninsured under H.R. 1628 than under current law. The increase in the number of uninsured people relative to the number projected under current law would reach 19 million in 2020 and 23 million in 2026. In 2026, an estimated 51 million people under age 65 would be uninsured, compared with 28 million who would lack insurance that year under current law. Under the legislation, a few million of those people would use tax credits to purchase policies that would not cover major medical risks.

Republicans kind of got handed an out with the last line there, as they can spin "major medical risks" as being maternity care for a 55 year old man or whatever. It's stupid, but their base is also stupid, so it'll probably work. CBO did say that this is only "a few million" of the total though.

Another interesting bit here:

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Finally, about one-sixth of the population resides in states that would obtain waivers involving both the EHBs and community rating and that would allow premiums to be set on the basis of an individual’s health status in a substantial portion of the nongroup market, CBO and JCT anticipate. As in other states, average premiums would be lower than under current law because a younger and healthier population would be purchasing the insurance and because large changes to the EHB requirements would cause plans to a cover a smaller percentage of expected health care costs. In addition, premiums would vary significantly according to health status and the types of benefits provided, and less healthy people would face extremely high premiums, despite the additional funding that would be available under H.R. 1628 to help reduce premiums. Over time, it would become more difficult for less healthy people (including people with preexisting medical conditions) in those states to purchase insurance because their premiums would continue to increase rapidly. As a result of the narrower scope of covered benefits and the difficulty less healthy people would face purchasing insurance, average premiums for people who did purchase insurance would generally be lower than in other states—but the variation around that average would be very large. CBO and JCT do not have an estimate of how much lower those premiums would be.

Nah, there is no out. This is a bag of shit all around.

Even the people that are getting insurance, who would see lower premiums, it is largely because you are getting fewer benefits or stuck with higher deductibles.

There are no free lunches and at its root this is a bill that is just enormous tax cuts for the rich, reduced subsidies and inadequate cost sharing plans for basically everyone else. The poor, the old, the sick are all fucked under this thing. Red states will get hit hardest. The mandate is still shit and IMO is going to encourage young people to forgo insurance knowing they are only subject to a 30% one year increase when they do need it. Those that do get it will be shocked that it is largely unusable due to high deductibles. I might be slipping a bit but I think the amendments even open the door to lifetime limits again and capping out-of-pocket expenses the insurer will pay.

If I am also not mistaken, it even reduces the deficit LESS then the last CBO estimate.

I am also interested in if the CBO touched on how the opt-out clause could affect employer insurance. Since theoretically a state that opts out could be the state a company insures all their employees from and so by extension, you could reduce the benefits for employees in states that didn't opt out. Drop coverage for employees in states that chose to opt out and are no longer required to do so.



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« Reply #6335 on: May 24, 2017, 06:21:59 PM »
https://twitter.com/ReaganBattalion/status/867468121652768769

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« Reply #6336 on: May 24, 2017, 07:20:21 PM »
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/867517225820966912


Gianforte is the Republican candidate in the Montana special Congressional election being held tomorrow.

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« Reply #6337 on: May 24, 2017, 07:47:17 PM »
cuck nerd destroyed :american

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« Reply #6338 on: May 24, 2017, 08:13:51 PM »
https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/867517225820966912


Gianforte is the Republican candidate in the Montana special Congressional election being held tomorrow.

http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/05/24/wtf-guardian-journo-says-mont-house-candidate-greg-gianforte-just-body-slammed-him/

Yeah, I came here to post more on that; wasn't sure if I should put it here or in the wrestling thread.

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« Reply #6340 on: May 24, 2017, 08:35:58 PM »
what the fuck
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« Reply #6342 on: May 24, 2017, 08:46:38 PM »
Do they not know that the audio has already been released?

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« Reply #6343 on: May 24, 2017, 08:51:23 PM »
To be fair, he doesn't confirm that he body slammed him maybe the journalist is lying!  :doge

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« Reply #6345 on: May 24, 2017, 08:56:50 PM »
Damn, I just drove past a WWE billboard, this is crazy

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« Reply #6346 on: May 24, 2017, 08:58:06 PM »
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/867538098359545858

Checkmate, liberal journalists.

I think their definition of "aggressively shoved" and my own bear very little resemblance.

Sadly, I could see this working to Gianforte's benefit, as many of Trump's cronies likely support physical assault against "der lugenpresse."

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« Reply #6347 on: May 24, 2017, 10:56:54 PM »


fuck the police
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« Reply #6349 on: May 24, 2017, 11:21:15 PM »
What in the FUCK.  David is no longer the host of FP's ER podcast.

I was wondering why they haven't updated new episodes. Any given reason ? Rothkopf was a blast as the host. His twitter is not giving a lot of details.
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« Reply #6350 on: May 25, 2017, 12:32:01 AM »
Has anyone argued that women respond positively to masculine behavior like slamming effete journalists to the ground, and it shows he'll be tough on ISIS. 2003 redux.
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« Reply #6351 on: May 25, 2017, 12:32:20 AM »
Please stop talking about this Montana nonsense, look at what this black preacher from Philadelphia (where the Black Panthers helped steal the 2012 election) said:

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SHOCK: Dem rally speaker declares Trump budget designed for ‘ethnic cleansing’

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« Reply #6352 on: May 25, 2017, 12:54:59 AM »
What in the FUCK.  David is no longer the host of FP's ER podcast.

I was wondering why they haven't updated new episodes. Any given reason ? Rothkopf was a blast as the host. His twitter is not giving a lot of details.

Just did a search and it looks like he might be leaving FP altogether.

It's a shame, I really liked him as a host.

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« Reply #6353 on: May 25, 2017, 02:44:10 AM »
what the fuck

stop being such a snowflake lieberal

it's just a little assault no big deal

'murica!! :usacry

That's the problem. That's the very fucking problem! It's not about the individual. I don't care that Spencer Ben Foster got punched Body Slammed. I care that ideas like that of ANTIFA Gianforte are on the rise and wiggling into minds. You are becoming the most harmful view history has had while thinking you are against harmful ideas. That sort of mental trick on yourself is bad.

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« Reply #6354 on: May 25, 2017, 07:58:37 AM »
So Gianforte is actually getting charged with a misdemeanor. Crazy.

If he wins I would start to think we're kinda unrepairable. Sure he might get recalled or forced out later but people still would have voted him into office after physically assaulting a member of the press for asking questions he didn't want to answer.

Yes, yes, gloom and doom and sweeping generalizations.
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« Reply #6355 on: May 25, 2017, 09:11:26 AM »
Please stop talking about this Montana nonsense, look at what this black preacher from Philadelphia (where the Black Panthers helped steal the 2012 election) said:

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The budget does a lot more damage to white people in red states. We should be celebrating. Who knew opiates and diabetes would solve white supremacy
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« Reply #6356 on: May 25, 2017, 09:19:37 AM »
Don't forget heroin and suicide!

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« Reply #6357 on: May 25, 2017, 09:26:19 AM »
And mesothelioma and spousal abuse!
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« Reply #6358 on: May 25, 2017, 10:04:42 AM »




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« Reply #6359 on: May 25, 2017, 10:43:22 AM »
Sad.
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