US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[zomgee]

Wait, that's not his personal account it it? Doesn't he use therealdonaldtrump usually?

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, the @POTUS account is almost certainly handled by staffers.

[chronovore]

Yeah, the @POTUS account is almost certainly handled by staffers.

So, out of curiosity, Obama had @POTUS previously, yes? Did he just hand it over so the POTUS can have it as a verified account?

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, the @POTUS account is almost certainly handled by staffers.

So, out of curiosity, Obama had @POTUS previously, yes? Did he just hand it over so the POTUS can have it as a verified account?

As far as I know, yeah.

[Freyj]

https://www.gofundme.com/tri-met-hero-recovery

SMH.  Its embarrassing that he would need something like this.

Fuck me that first pic is harrowing.

[Human Snorenado]

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2017/05/26/world/europe/26reuters-usa-trump-warroom.html

Trump's bringing in the big guns to deal with this Russia scandal!

Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s former campaign manager, is also expected to be part of the effort. Lewandowski, who has been seen in the White House recently, could join the administration as early as next week, a source close to him said.

Or, you know, Lewandowski.

[Great Rumbler]

Maybe he could bring back Michael Flynn, too, or something lol

[FStop7]

Dunno if this is really the correct thread, but I just read a bunch of the Portland stabbing guy's Facebook posts and what a piece of work he is.  Openly trying to recruit people to join him in killing feds and prison guards.  Praising Bernie Sanders and yet espousing a philosophy that confusingly wobbles around fascism, libertarian and socialist.  Calls Trump better than Hillary because Trump is the "fast poison."  Not all of the posts may be legitimate but I think they probably are.  He was participating in ongoing disucussions on Facebook with people who he also interacted with in real life.  Dude was a walking timebomb.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238539759&postcount=56

the pew pew tape is real guys

a tape recording showing trump playing schmups in his underwear

Is this real???

[Atramental]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238539759&postcount=56

the pew pew tape is real guys

a tape recording showing trump playing schmups in his underwear

Is this real???

Wow if true.

[Great Rumbler]

I just peed a few minutes ago. Literally shaking right now.

[etiolate]

Dunno if this is really the correct thread, but I just read a bunch of the Portland stabbing guy's Facebook posts and what a piece of work he is.  Openly trying to recruit people to join him in killing feds and prison guards.  Praising Bernie Sanders and yet espousing a philosophy that confusingly wobbles around fascism, libertarian and socialist.  Calls Trump better than Hillary because Trump is the "fast poison."  Not all of the posts may be legitimate but I think they probably are.  He was participating in ongoing disucussions on Facebook with people who he also interacted with in real life.  Dude was a walking timebomb.

Yeah, and apparently people had reported him to the police several times, but you can't lock a guy up for crazy facebook posts and ranting at rallies. If he had calls to violence might be a legit case for the police.

The local police could have staged a sweep of his house, found his knife and got him on parole violation, even though that's an abuse of power.

He is:

-Anti Police
-Pro Bernie/Stein
-Pro White separatism
-Anti-racist
-Pro free speech
-anti religion
-Anti Hillary/Trump
-Socialist who hates socialists and antifa
-Ex Con

Just fucking nuts.

[Brehvolution]

Facebook during the Obama years normalized this type of behavior. 

[Let's Cyber]

Spicer sounded wore out while he rattled off 10 straight minutes of propaganda before taking questions today.

I wonder how many times he's cried himself to sleep since January.

[zomgee]

Dunno if this is really the correct thread, but I just read a bunch of the Portland stabbing guy's Facebook posts and what a piece of work he is.  Openly trying to recruit people to join him in killing feds and prison guards.  Praising Bernie Sanders and yet espousing a philosophy that confusingly wobbles around fascism, libertarian and socialist.  Calls Trump better than Hillary because Trump is the "fast poison."  Not all of the posts may be legitimate but I think they probably are.  He was participating in ongoing disucussions on Facebook with people who he also interacted with in real life.  Dude was a walking timebomb.

Yeah, and apparently people had reported him to the police several times, but you can't lock a guy up for crazy facebook posts and ranting at rallies. If he had calls to violence might be a legit case for the police.

The local police could have staged a sweep of his house, found his knife and got him on parole violation, even though that's an abuse of power.

He is:

-Anti Police
-Pro Bernie/Stein
-Pro White separatism
-Anti-racist
-Pro free speech
-anti religion
-Anti Hillary/Trump
-Socialist who hates socialists and antifa
-Ex Con

Just fucking nuts.

I see you.

[Dickie Dee]

I just peed a few minutes ago. Literally shaking right now.

Piss Shivers are the worst

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/AlexanderEmmons/status/869649552617463808


You're not allowed to give the actual answer ("how much do you think people are willing to pay for gas?"), so of course it gets amazingly cringe-y when someone asks the question in public.


Disclaimer: obviously a shared bipartisan hypocrisy in the US both sides do it etc.

[Nola]

(From data related to BCBS of North Carolina)
https://www.vox.com/2017/5/30/15701986/blue-cross-north-carolina-obamacare-premiums

Basically showing how Trump's nonsense is already harming consumers.

Insurers are supposed to get in next year's initial rate-hike requests by June 21(followed by some final deadlines later on). The Trump team just kicked their lawsuit challenging the subsidies and a final decision on second-half funding back another 90 days. Good chance if they don't make a decision on at least the CSR's well before those deadlines, even more insurers jump out of the exchanges. And those remaining inside will request rate hikes similar to N.C. due to uncertainty and potentially having to use reserves to make up the difference if Trump doesn't fund end of year CSR's.

This really is some evil shit, and the crazy thing is, it seems like Democrats can't even manage to find a unified message to hammer Trump with so he seems rather unscathed by this particular move so far.

[Trent Dole]

Eh he'll just angrily declare that people mocking his weird typo tweet are fake tweets just like his actual tax return was fake news.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trumps-washington-congress/528426/

As Ryan earnestly touted his party’s work on “landmark federal IT reform legislation,” there was a grim, haunted look in his bright-blue eyes, and it wasn’t hard to imagine why. What ought to have been the salad days of Republican-led government had instead become a ceaseless, disorienting swirl of scandal, 120 days of self-inflicted chaos and crisis….
...
But Paul Ryan, with his long-cultivated persona as the party’s resident idealist, has always had high expectations. He watched last year as Trump ate his party; now he must watch as the president consumes his dreams. “Paul wants to govern, he’s trying to get what’s possible to get done, and he’s got a lot of credibility on the line,” Ryan’s friend Jimmy Kemp, the son of the late former Representative Jack Kemp, told me. “He’s been working on these issues for so long.” Kemp, who wrote in Ryan’s name on his presidential ballot, described the speaker as burdened but steady. “He’s frustrated and it’s wearing on him, but he’s not throwing in the towel,” he said. “He just has to answer questions about so many things he doesn’t want to answer questions about.”

 

[toku]

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/869989858768338944

[Steve Contra]

Trump has reduced Sean Spicer to defending typos he made on twitter because people are making fun of him. America 2017

[Human Snorenado]

When will this smoke screen distracting from the Seth Rich murder scandal end???

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/31/politics/fbi-comey-testimony/index.html

(CNN)Fired FBI director James Comey plans to testify publicly in the Senate as early as next week to confirm bombshell accusations that President Donald Trump pressured him to end his investigation into a top Trump aide's ties to Russia, a source close to the issue said Wednesday.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/869989858768338944

lol I FUCKING CALLED IT

TRUMP CAN'T ADMIT A MISTAKE OF ANY KIND NOT EVEN A TYPO

COVFEFE WAS INTENTIONAL!!

To be fair, I'm sure Trump and all of his followers did know exactly what he meant. All he has to say is "blah blah blah negative press" and that's enough, message received.

Although Spicer's wording makes it sound like this is a codeword to launch Russian Jade Helm 17 -  It's For Real This Time.

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/AlexanderEmmons/status/869649552617463808


You're not allowed to give the actual answer ("how much do you think people are willing to pay for gas?"), so of course it gets amazingly cringe-y when someone asks the question in public.


Disclaimer: obviously a shared bipartisan hypocrisy in the US both sides do it etc.

That pause

I'm just surprised that he didn't have some canned answer ready in the works. Is this dude a Trump appointee or a career bureaucrat?

[Madrun Badrun]

in before covfefe turns out to be the handle of a agent in Syria that gets murdered by the Russians. 

[chronovore]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/activists-investigating-ivanka-trump-brands-in-china-arrested-missing/2017/05/30/a6cb90f8-459e-11e7-b08b-1818ab401a7f_story.html

Activists Hua Haifeng and Li Zhao had been investigating labor practices at Huajian factories in Ganzhou city in southeastern Jiangxi province and Dongguan city in southern Guangzhou province, while a third activist, Su Heng, was working undercover inside the Ganzhou factory, CLW’s Li said.

Hua’s wife, Deng Guilian, said she had not spoken to her husband since Sunday afternoon, when he was on his way from Dongguan to Ganzhou. But she said she had received a phone call from the Public Security Bureau in Ganzhou on Monday saying that he had been detained on suspicion of “illegal monitoring.” Police declined to give further details, she said.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/activists-investigating-ivanka-trump-brands-in-china-arrested-missing/2017/05/30/a6cb90f8-459e-11e7-b08b-1818ab401a7f_story.html

Activists Hua Haifeng and Li Zhao had been investigating labor practices at Huajian factories in Ganzhou city in southeastern Jiangxi province and Dongguan city in southern Guangzhou province, while a third activist, Su Heng, was working undercover inside the Ganzhou factory, CLW’s Li said.

Hua’s wife, Deng Guilian, said she had not spoken to her husband since Sunday afternoon, when he was on his way from Dongguan to Ganzhou. But she said she had received a phone call from the Public Security Bureau in Ganzhou on Monday saying that he had been detained on suspicion of “illegal monitoring.” Police declined to give further details, she said.

China and labour activists.

This is the important quote (and actually related to Trump)

William Nee, China researcher at Amnesty International in Hong Kong, said the detentions appear to represent another attack on civil society in the country under President Xi Jinping.

“The Chinese state seems to be aggressively going after any activists who have any ties to overseas organizations under the all-encompassing umbrella of ‘national security,’ ” he said.

“President Donald Trump has bitterly complained of unfair trade practices, but now we have a vivid example of workers rights activists in China being detained merely for trying to ensure that labors laws are actually enforced in practice and don’t just exist on paper. He should use his new friendship with Xi Jinping to press for their release.”

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/869753813808414721

This explains "covfefe" – Donny was mid-tweet when he broke down in manly tears.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.space.com/37033-us-missile-defense-test-shoots-down-icbm.html

[Brehvolution]

Al Franken says that covfefe is a Yiddish phrase that translates to "I'm going to bed".

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/01/nigel-farage-is-person-of-interest-in-fbi-investigation-into-trump-and-russia

[Joe Molotov]

Diminati confirmed.

[etiolate]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

[TakingBackSunday]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

oh do indulge me.

[Nola]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

oh do indulge me.

I think I got it:

Infowars, 4chan, Breit Bart >>> The entire U.S. intelligence community.

[Boredfrom]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

Dude, wiki leaks at this point seems to comfortable with dealing with scumbags like Hannity. Assange hate boner for Hilary doesnt explain why he is comfortable with this shit.

[seagrams hotsauce]

We don't actually have to dignify low-effort troll shit like that with responses. Treat etoilet like you would any other toilet; forget it even exists until you want to shit on it

[Boredfrom]

Eh, I like discussions with Etiolate

[Fifstar]

 

[Boredfrom]

 

[etiolate]

I could explain the wiki-russia-trump conspiracy being nonsense, but I did just post a direct link to a FISA report on the NSA that you discounted because CNN didn't tell you it was okay to read it.

[Nola]

I could explain the wiki-russia-trump conspiracy being nonsense, but I did just post a direct link to a FISA report on the NSA that you discounted because CNN didn't tell you it was okay to read it.

Have you contacted Mueller and McCabe yet?

It would probably help them out a great deal - not to mention save the taxpayer a good bit of money - if you passed along these smoking guns that exonerate the Russian's and the Trump fellowship.

Supposedly Trump is losing sleep and gorging on taco salads late into the night. All of this can't be good for his battery.

[TakingBackSunday]

Paris agreement abandoned

Sigh.  Fuck this country

[recursivelyenumerable]

If anyone is really interested in FISC/NSA surveillance issues, Marcy Wheeler has a detailed analysis/criticism of the court opinion in question here

[VomKriege]

Paris agreement abandoned

Sigh.  Fuck this country

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-france-idUSKBN18S6H3?il=0

"The United States and France will continue to work together, but not on the subject of climate"

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

oh do indulge me.

Well, it's all fairly actually simple if you just let your bias at the door and think about it. Long explanation incoming so spoiler tagging for TLDR :

spoiler (click to show/hide)

covfefe

[close]

[recursivelyenumerable]

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/868862980326338563
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/869300834542211072
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/870236591687598080

[Tasty]

We don't actually have to dignify low-effort troll shit like that with responses. Treat etoilet like you would any other toilet; forget it even exists until you want to shit on it

I just laughed out loud. Good shit.

[Syph]

“Then you’ve got Cambridge Analytica,” Clinton said
 

[FStop7]

January 21

"Hey y'all I'm gonna stick my dick in this rabid pitbull's mouth because there's a hundred dollar bill taped to a nearby tree and the dog promised not to bite my dick off, so it's for the good of us all"

"You might not want to do that, the dog's already bitten off like 60 other dicks"

"Whatevz this is FOR YOU THE PEOPLE, I CAN CHANGE THE DOG"

June 1

"Hey y'all just wanted to announce  I'll be withdrawing what remains of my dick from this pitbull's clenched jaw, please celebrate my bravery"

[zomgee]

sometimes I feel like the dog sometimes I feel like the tree

Top of page: I'm keeping it. It's all on you.

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/869970236669177856


I TRIED SO HAAAAAARD AND GOT SO FAAAARRRR

[Human Snorenado]

A useful idiot no longer. Sad!

[seagrams hotsauce]

On the one hand, I can't blame him for wanting a seat at the table, but on the other hand, LMAO WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT NICKYOUNG.JPG

[Nola]

On the one hand, I can't blame him for wanting a seat at the table, but on the other hand, LMAO WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT NICKYOUNG.JPG

Isn't a growing part of Musk's business interests in government contracts for things like SpaceX?

Just from a self-interest standpoint I sort of get why he would stick it out as long as possible. If not for the big things, at least the things that affect his core business interests.

[Mandark]

I mean, I'm not surprised that a CEO would want access to the president of the US.

But so many people seemed to think he was doing something clever or would be able to meaningfully change Trump. That was always baffling.

[seagrams hotsauce]

On the one hand, I can't blame him for wanting a seat at the table, but on the other hand, LMAO WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT NICKYOUNG.JPG

Isn't a growing part of Musk's business interests in government contracts for things like SpaceX?

Just from a self-interest standpoint I sort of get why he would stick it out as long as possible. If not for the big things, at least the things that affect his core business interests.

I mean I get why he wouldn't jump ship, he's taken the US government for like 5 billion dollars so far on some pipedream bullshit and doesn't want to turn the faucet off. There have been about a billion red flags that this was the inevitable conclusion anyway though, and I have zero sympathy for this jerkoff for not reading the tea leaves that he's dealing with a complete distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

I can't say I'm surprised given how shitty an employer Musk has been though. "omg, all these people I dont pay enough are jumping ship to my competitors!!! Ugh these people are evil how dare they betray my vision in exchange for reasonable working hours and way better compensation!!!!"

[Mandark]

Right? Was literally thinking that, then remembering that book Nader wrote about the super rich saving us.

Someone should make Kara read that and give it the Blossom treatment.

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/Xenos_RIFS/status/870487236134936576

[seagrams hotsauce]

I mean, I'm not surprised that a CEO would want access to the president of the US.

But so many people seemed to think he was doing something clever or would be able to meaningfully change Trump. That was always baffling.

It's  the same CEO cult of personality worship that helped Trump get elected, but from a different generation.

No one ever, ever heralded Trump the way they do Musk though. People literally think Musk going to save humanity

Lol I went for a syph sub and then Esch came in and kicked down the buildings goddamn