US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Madrun Badrun]

in before covfefe turns out to be the handle of a agent in Syria that gets murdered by the Russians. 

[chronovore]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/activists-investigating-ivanka-trump-brands-in-china-arrested-missing/2017/05/30/a6cb90f8-459e-11e7-b08b-1818ab401a7f_story.html

Activists Hua Haifeng and Li Zhao had been investigating labor practices at Huajian factories in Ganzhou city in southeastern Jiangxi province and Dongguan city in southern Guangzhou province, while a third activist, Su Heng, was working undercover inside the Ganzhou factory, CLW’s Li said.

Hua’s wife, Deng Guilian, said she had not spoken to her husband since Sunday afternoon, when he was on his way from Dongguan to Ganzhou. But she said she had received a phone call from the Public Security Bureau in Ganzhou on Monday saying that he had been detained on suspicion of “illegal monitoring.” Police declined to give further details, she said.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/activists-investigating-ivanka-trump-brands-in-china-arrested-missing/2017/05/30/a6cb90f8-459e-11e7-b08b-1818ab401a7f_story.html

Activists Hua Haifeng and Li Zhao had been investigating labor practices at Huajian factories in Ganzhou city in southeastern Jiangxi province and Dongguan city in southern Guangzhou province, while a third activist, Su Heng, was working undercover inside the Ganzhou factory, CLW’s Li said.

Hua’s wife, Deng Guilian, said she had not spoken to her husband since Sunday afternoon, when he was on his way from Dongguan to Ganzhou. But she said she had received a phone call from the Public Security Bureau in Ganzhou on Monday saying that he had been detained on suspicion of “illegal monitoring.” Police declined to give further details, she said.

China and labour activists.

This is the important quote (and actually related to Trump)

William Nee, China researcher at Amnesty International in Hong Kong, said the detentions appear to represent another attack on civil society in the country under President Xi Jinping.

“The Chinese state seems to be aggressively going after any activists who have any ties to overseas organizations under the all-encompassing umbrella of ‘national security,’ ” he said.

“President Donald Trump has bitterly complained of unfair trade practices, but now we have a vivid example of workers rights activists in China being detained merely for trying to ensure that labors laws are actually enforced in practice and don’t just exist on paper. He should use his new friendship with Xi Jinping to press for their release.”

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/869753813808414721

This explains "covfefe" – Donny was mid-tweet when he broke down in manly tears.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.space.com/37033-us-missile-defense-test-shoots-down-icbm.html

[Brehvolution]

Al Franken says that covfefe is a Yiddish phrase that translates to "I'm going to bed".

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/01/nigel-farage-is-person-of-interest-in-fbi-investigation-into-trump-and-russia

[Joe Molotov]

Diminati confirmed.

[etiolate]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

[TakingBackSunday]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

oh do indulge me.

[Nola]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

oh do indulge me.

I think I got it:

Infowars, 4chan, Breit Bart >>> The entire U.S. intelligence community.

[Boredfrom]

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

Dude, wiki leaks at this point seems to comfortable with dealing with scumbags like Hannity. Assange hate boner for Hilary doesnt explain why he is comfortable with this shit.

[seagrams hotsauce]

We don't actually have to dignify low-effort troll shit like that with responses. Treat etoilet like you would any other toilet; forget it even exists until you want to shit on it

[Boredfrom]

Eh, I like discussions with Etiolate

[Fifstar]

 

[Boredfrom]

 

[etiolate]

I could explain the wiki-russia-trump conspiracy being nonsense, but I did just post a direct link to a FISA report on the NSA that you discounted because CNN didn't tell you it was okay to read it.

[Nola]

I could explain the wiki-russia-trump conspiracy being nonsense, but I did just post a direct link to a FISA report on the NSA that you discounted because CNN didn't tell you it was okay to read it.

Have you contacted Mueller and McCabe yet?

It would probably help them out a great deal - not to mention save the taxpayer a good bit of money - if you passed along these smoking guns that exonerate the Russian's and the Trump fellowship.

Supposedly Trump is losing sleep and gorging on taco salads late into the night. All of this can't be good for his battery.

[TakingBackSunday]

Paris agreement abandoned

Sigh.  Fuck this country

[recursivelyenumerable]

If anyone is really interested in FISC/NSA surveillance issues, Marcy Wheeler has a detailed analysis/criticism of the court opinion in question here

[VomKriege]

Paris agreement abandoned

Sigh.  Fuck this country

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-climatechange-france-idUSKBN18S6H3?il=0

"The United States and France will continue to work together, but not on the subject of climate"

holy fuck they're still pushing the wiki is russia narrative

oh do indulge me.

Well, it's all fairly actually simple if you just let your bias at the door and think about it. Long explanation incoming so spoiler tagging for TLDR :

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covfefe

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[recursivelyenumerable]

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/868862980326338563
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/869300834542211072
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/870236591687598080

[Tasty]

We don't actually have to dignify low-effort troll shit like that with responses. Treat etoilet like you would any other toilet; forget it even exists until you want to shit on it

I just laughed out loud. Good shit.

[Syph]

“Then you’ve got Cambridge Analytica,” Clinton said
 

[FStop7]

January 21

"Hey y'all I'm gonna stick my dick in this rabid pitbull's mouth because there's a hundred dollar bill taped to a nearby tree and the dog promised not to bite my dick off, so it's for the good of us all"

"You might not want to do that, the dog's already bitten off like 60 other dicks"

"Whatevz this is FOR YOU THE PEOPLE, I CAN CHANGE THE DOG"

June 1

"Hey y'all just wanted to announce  I'll be withdrawing what remains of my dick from this pitbull's clenched jaw, please celebrate my bravery"

[zomgee]

sometimes I feel like the dog sometimes I feel like the tree

Top of page: I'm keeping it. It's all on you.

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/869970236669177856


I TRIED SO HAAAAAARD AND GOT SO FAAAARRRR

[Human Snorenado]

A useful idiot no longer. Sad!

[seagrams hotsauce]

On the one hand, I can't blame him for wanting a seat at the table, but on the other hand, LMAO WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT NICKYOUNG.JPG

[Nola]

On the one hand, I can't blame him for wanting a seat at the table, but on the other hand, LMAO WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT NICKYOUNG.JPG

Isn't a growing part of Musk's business interests in government contracts for things like SpaceX?

Just from a self-interest standpoint I sort of get why he would stick it out as long as possible. If not for the big things, at least the things that affect his core business interests.

[Mandark]

I mean, I'm not surprised that a CEO would want access to the president of the US.

But so many people seemed to think he was doing something clever or would be able to meaningfully change Trump. That was always baffling.

[seagrams hotsauce]

On the one hand, I can't blame him for wanting a seat at the table, but on the other hand, LMAO WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT NICKYOUNG.JPG

Isn't a growing part of Musk's business interests in government contracts for things like SpaceX?

Just from a self-interest standpoint I sort of get why he would stick it out as long as possible. If not for the big things, at least the things that affect his core business interests.

I mean I get why he wouldn't jump ship, he's taken the US government for like 5 billion dollars so far on some pipedream bullshit and doesn't want to turn the faucet off. There have been about a billion red flags that this was the inevitable conclusion anyway though, and I have zero sympathy for this jerkoff for not reading the tea leaves that he's dealing with a complete distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

I can't say I'm surprised given how shitty an employer Musk has been though. "omg, all these people I dont pay enough are jumping ship to my competitors!!! Ugh these people are evil how dare they betray my vision in exchange for reasonable working hours and way better compensation!!!!"

[Mandark]

Right? Was literally thinking that, then remembering that book Nader wrote about the super rich saving us.

Someone should make Kara read that and give it the Blossom treatment.

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/Xenos_RIFS/status/870487236134936576

[seagrams hotsauce]

I mean, I'm not surprised that a CEO would want access to the president of the US.

But so many people seemed to think he was doing something clever or would be able to meaningfully change Trump. That was always baffling.

It's  the same CEO cult of personality worship that helped Trump get elected, but from a different generation.

No one ever, ever heralded Trump the way they do Musk though. People literally think Musk going to save humanity

Lol I went for a syph sub and then Esch came in and kicked down the buildings goddamn

[Nola]

I mean, I'm not surprised that a CEO would want access to the president of the US.

But so many people seemed to think he was doing something clever or would be able to meaningfully change Trump. That was always baffling.

It's  the same CEO cult of personality worship that helped Trump get elected, but from a different generation.

No one ever, ever heralded Trump the way they do Musk though. People literally think Musk going to save humanity

Someone has never visited The_Donald......Or any political sub forum of theirs or any other sports team in this country.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I mean, I'm not surprised that a CEO would want access to the president of the US.

But so many people seemed to think he was doing something clever or would be able to meaningfully change Trump. That was always baffling.

It's  the same CEO cult of personality worship that helped Trump get elected, but from a different generation.

No one ever, ever heralded Trump the way they do Musk though. People literally think Musk going to save humanity

Someone has never visited The_Donald......Or any political sub forum of theirs or any other sports team in this country.

I mean, I kind of get what you're hinting at here, sort of? I'm absolutely certain Tom Brady would have a lot harder time convincing people that he could colonize Mars, but Elon Musk seems to have conned plenty of people into buying into that as a plausible future

[benjipwns]

Curt Schilling seemed to do pretty well.

edit: oh good he's going to run against Elizabeth Warren

[seagrams hotsauce]

Nah, he definitely didn't lol

[benjipwns]

if your vision of America is a place where someone with tightly focused limited skills who runs through millions of dollars for projects they have no training for, stomping over the little people in the process, get taxpayer subsidies without any checks and balances, go bankrupt multiple times with no major effect on their standing, become a media "star" who says questionable things constantly and has issues with truthful statements all without any loss of status can't run for and become successful in politics including the Presidency i don't want to live in your hellscape fantasy world

that's not the America i grew up in where 9/11 changed everything

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INVESTIGATE 3/11

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[Raist]

Macron ups his trolling game all the way to 11.

https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/870407981044834304

[benjipwns]

if Earth is so great why's it the densest planet in the solar system huh

for all their talk about the wonders of diversity, the globalist lieberal elites sure have a pro-Earth bias

how about respecting the culture from the Venusian climate for once?

[Let's Cyber]

how about respecting the culture from the Venusian climate for once?

Venus's runaway greenhouse effect is destructive and I don't want it on Earth.

Maybe you rednecks and crazy christian gun nuts consider that statement ethnocentric and a maybe even racist but I don't care. It just shouldn't be a part of our Earth culture. Also my grandfather was killed on Venus so I have a right to say it regardless of what some Teabaggers think of me on the internet.

[Human Snorenado]

To be fair its kind of funny what people expect out of Musk. Bon vivant, president tamer, space Voyager, environment saver, Hollywood dime smasher 

To buy into it all you have to basically be either a complete dolt, or enough of a dork to fantasize about Tony Stark coming to life. It could be both I suppose, like Syph.

Come from Canada but idolize Marco Rubio, brehs.

[benjipwns]

Also my grandfather was killed on Venus

That was an annexationist, predatory, plunderous war manufactured by Earth colonist propaganda for the benefit of galactic finance capital.

[agrajag]

Glad to see y'all are still taking the L's.

[Let's Cyber]

Also my grandfather was killed on Venus

That was an annexationist, predatory, plunderous war manufactured by Earth colonist propaganda for the benefit of galactic finance capital.

The information we had at the time implied they had Ultra Massive Ion Cannons pointed directly at earth, we couldn't just sit back and do nothing.

My grandfather and 3 of his clones died for our freedom. 

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This is old but I'm just now seeing it, hilarious 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/30/this-white-house-statement-on-trumps-positive-energy-reads-like-a-parody/?utm_term=.589d2579a5f4

President Trump has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000. He has built great relationships throughout his life and treats everyone with respect. He is brilliant with a great sense of humor … and an amazing ability to make people feel special and aspire to be more than even they thought possible.

He also has huge hands. The biggest hands you've ever seen. And other parts of his body are also very large. Not to be vulgar but there is no problem there. Trust me.

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[benjipwns]

https://mediaequalizer.com/

Today, conservatives stand together with #StoptheScalpings to push back against the attempt to silence those who dare to ask tough questions and pursue the truth. Sean Hannity, of Fox News, took it upon himself to delve deeper into a story, one that left many unanswered questions requiring further investigation.

#StopTheScalpings is part of the Media Equality Project, a new organization launched by Brian Maloney and Melanie Morgan, two longtime talk show hosts, political and media analysts.

The DNC, mainstream media, George Soros, and Media Matters for America, deemed Sean Hannity’s pursuit of the facts too close for comfort. In an effort to protect their ilk, and the secrets they keep, they have created a false narrative. They have defamed Hannity’s character, his work and political positions.

Media Matters has now targeted Sean Hannity’s advertisers all in a back door effort to remove financial support for the show. They do this to silence his voice, because it does not speak in unison with their own.

Asking the question is the responsibility of any good journalist, reporter or news personality. And for just asking questions, based on interviews with the head of Wikileaks (who has never been proven wrong in eleven years) and not going along with the monolithic left-wing Russia-Trump collusion, there is now an attempt to silence Hannity.

Hillary Clinton is one of the founders of Media Matters, and George Soros is a main benefactor, this is a group that has targeted numerous conservative voices for the sake of their being conservative.

While not one liberal has stood up in defense of liberty and freedom for Hannity, there are numerous liberal hosts who have faced criticism for their point of view, that he has supported in the past.

To counteract these fascistic tactics, #StoptheScalpings has decided to fight fire with fire. As long as Media Matters continues to attack conservatives, we will return them the same kindness. We begin with Rachel Maddow who has been the biggest purveyor of lies and propaganda in the media today. Like Media Matters, we will now inform the public and the advertisers about who they are financing.

While we prefer not to be involved in this type of effort, we need to be on equal footing. We will continue to announce the advertisers that finance these efforts and support these hosts who allow lies and conspiracy theories to permeate the airwaves. If Media Matters ceases these type of assaults, we will do the same.

Until then, we will list every advertiser that supports hosts like Rachel Maddow, an outright liar, and someone who deceives the public and defames conservatives on a daily basis. The question to these advertisers is: do they know what their dollars’ support?

Conservatives everywhere are joining #StoptheScalpings, unveiling the advertisers who sponsor the shows, hosts and networks that support the suppression of the First Amendment. Calls, protests, and subscription revocations will continue to occur in rapid response to this miscarriage of justice. The American people will not stand for any company or organization that believes in silencing the voices that do not agree with their own.

[Stro]

Wew, can't handle all these Ls right now

[TakingBackSunday]

everytime I see George Soros mention I die a little inside

(((SOROS)))

[VomKriege]

#StopTheScalpings

"You see Sitting Cloud, you are actually the fascist here."

[Dickie Dee]

This just made me laugh

https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys/status/869967807353638913

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/AndyYoungFilm/status/870365450114220032



He kinda nails it.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I could use some Sorosbux right around now tbh

[Trent Dole]

RACIAL SLUR TIME WITH BILL MAHER
http://www.vulture.com/2017/06/bill-maher-called-himself-the-n-word-on-real-time.html

[Stro]

 What's actually funny about that is that the audience clearly had a similar slave joke connection as soon as he said "working the fields?", because "working in the fields" immediately evokes images slaves for most Americans. He didn't actually need to say anything after that, because everyone made the connection immediately, which makes the whole audience racist. Probably.

Having a rich, old white man make the joke erases the (dark  ) humor in where everyone's mind went in the first place.

[VomKriege]

I guess it's not surprising coming from this administration.

Publicity of report on CIA torture to be minimized :
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cia-torture-idUSKBN18T2NF?il=0

Rumors of the White House trying to use executive privilege to block James Comey to testify :
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN18T1WZ?il=0

Also apparently a "surge" (of a few thousands troops) in Afghanistan, supposedly at the behest of McMaster.
Reuters's podcast War College has a sobering and depressing episode on the matter :

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-warcollege-31may-idUSKBN18R31H

To paraphrase from the podcast : "The perfect war, every faction is profiteering !", a country suffering of PTSD as a whole and a tragedy of corruption and grafting at every level.
I really thought the US (and ISAF/NATO) would have withdrawn a few years ago now. It was already pretty clear then that whatever allied governement there was there was gonna be holding for only few months before collapsing (as the Soviet backed version or South Vietnam). Maybe the US leadership never felt the Afghan authorities could even reach that level to allow to save NATO the minimal amount of face ? The result however is that the USA continued to piss blood & dollars into an abyss and yet cannot even prevent the insurgency from winning (the official line that they are "stalemated" is an illusion to most everyone).

Really the war in Afghanistan should have been an in-and-out affair. International djihadists would probably have popped back out a few years after but repeated expeditions every 5 years would have been less costly, and no lessuseful, than this.

[VomKriege]

http://mashable.com/2017/05/30/trump-selling-subscription-box/



https://mobile.twitter.com/betsy_klein/status/869268254744858624

[Raist]

https://twitter.com/francediplo_EN/status/870699642509512704

[VomKriege]

We French have always been talented at making ourselves look good. Macron (as it's hard to imagine the Elysée was not consulted on doing this) is really milking for all it is worth his international state of grace.

I mean, he might dismantle the Labor Code of Law, but man does he look good on the world stage !