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Meanwhile...

Key GOP centrists open to ending Medicaid expansion

Abortion restrictions threaten Senate GOP’s Obamacare repeal push


A lot of hopes for the healthcare bill crashing are based on "moderate" Republicans caring about how it affects their constituents, and on the GOP feeling bound by previous norms about the reconciliation process and the Senate parliamentarian.

I wouldn't exactly bet my life on either of those.

And nobody does. People just saying they are not going to pass unscathed.

[agrajag]

Why is everyone hung up on the "I hope" line? Trump admitted he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That's the obstruction of justice, with admission of guilt. That's the smoking gun.

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/peteralexander/status/872939394260508673

drip drip drip

[FStop7]

John McCain is really one of the most flip floppy undependable people in US political history. I have no idea how that guy gets votes.

Because of the weight his name carries for heroism in war and his wife's money.

His father and grandfather would be ashamed of what he became.

[Nola]

The new line I'm seeing everywhere on right-wing sites is that Trump had every right to stop the Flynn investigation, so it wouldn't matter even if he did "direct" Comey to do so.

Seems kind of fishy to me, but I Am Not A Lawyer.

As I understand it, it is basically the whole "the president has legal authority to fire the FBI director at any time he chooses or to stop or start an investigation."

Which I am pretty sure is technically true(though I did read something that it is not so black and white) but that doesn't really mean a whole lot if the issue is obstruction of justice. Plus, its just bullshit. They themselves would never be saying shit like that if it were Obama that did that shit to Comey over Hillary's emails. Their hearts would be bleeding all over the country about the left compromising the integrity of the independence of the DOJ and FBI.

The only path this was ever going to go down for Trump was impeachment, a political process. Since I think past rulings make it pretty much impossible to prosecute a sitting president in a criminal court. But impeachment has a ton of broad leeway as to what constitutes high crimes and misdemeanors. Nixon was going to have obstruction charges brought against him with his impeachment, so Trump is in good company.

[Joe Molotov]

Meanwhile...

Key GOP centrists open to ending Medicaid expansion

Abortion restrictions threaten Senate GOP’s Obamacare repeal push


A lot of hopes for the healthcare bill crashing are based on "moderate" Republicans caring about how it affects their constituents, and on the GOP feeling bound by previous norms about the reconciliation process and the Senate parliamentarian.

I wouldn't exactly bet my life on either of those.

And nobody does. People just saying they are not going to pass unscathed.

Other than poor people, you mean.

[Atramental]

[Great Rumbler]

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Fuck John McCain

Nowhere in McCain's rambling, incoherent comments did he even remotely come close to making this argument.

Also:

[bluemax]

Wonder what happens now

Trump Jr said that now that this is all past us Papa Trump can get back to #MAGAing. So yeah.

[VomKriege]

Wonder what happens now

Trump Jr said that now that this is all past us Papa Trump can get back to #MAGAing. So yeah.

Amazing insulation between the President and the people running his businesses by the way.

[benjipwns]

John McCain is really one of the most flip floppy undependable people in US political history. I have no idea how that guy gets votes.

That means he's pragmatic and bipartisan, not driven by politics.

STRAIGHT TALK

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MAVERICK

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[benjipwns]

His father

woah



spooky

[Rufus]

Ignorance has much the same effect.

[VomKriege]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/873120139222306817

Wow !

[Atramental]

 



 

[benjipwns]

  tucker holdin all the L's

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BOO HOO HOO

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[agrajag]

That wrench looks broken.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1388259

All these people are going on the secret service watch list.

[Raist]

 

why the fuck does trump have a body like superman in this comic

this artist is a fucking imbecile

Believe.

[TakingBackSunday]

that is fucking hysterical

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of course this is what that shitheel looks like

[Joe Molotov]

USA is a tool. A good cartoon.

[Atramental]

A bald eagle wrench in the strong, large hands of Trump. This is what kills the leakers and cucks.

[Great Rumbler]

that is fucking hysterical

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of course this is what that shitheel looks like

Didn't realize that Ted Raimi had such ridiculous political views.

[benjipwns]

https://www.thenation.com/article/liberal-elites-are-not-the-problem/

If I have to read one more article blaming liberal condescension toward the red states and the white working class for the election of Trump, I’m moving to Paris, France. These pieces started coming out even before the election and are still pouring down on our heads. Just within the last few weeks, the New Republic had Michael Tomasky deploring “elite liberal suspicion of middle America” for such red-state practices as churchgoing and gun owning and The New York Times had Joan Williams accusing Democrats of impugning the “social honor” of working-class whites by talking about them in demeaning and condescending ways, as exemplified by such phrases as “flyover states,” “trailer trash,” and “plumber’s butt.” Plumber’s butt? That was a new one for me. And that’s not even counting the 92,346 feature stories about rural Trump voters and their heartwarming folkways. (“I played by the rules,” said retired rancher Tom Grady, 66, delving into the Daffodil Diner’s famous rhubarb pie. “Why should I pay for some deadbeat’s trip to Europe?”) I’m still waiting for the deep dives into the hearts and minds of Clinton supporters—what concerns motivated the 94 percent of black women voters who chose her? Is there nothing of interest there? For that matter, why don’t we see explorations of the voters who made up the majority of Trump’s base, people who are not miners or unemployed factory workers but regular Republicans, most quite well-fixed in life? (“I would vote for Satan himself if he promised to cut my taxes,” said Bill Thorberg, a 45-year-old dentist in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. “I’m basically just selfish.”) There are, after all, only around 75,000 coal miners in the entire country, and by now every one of them has been profiled in the Times.

In her fascinating recent book Strangers in Their Own Land, the brilliant sociologist Arlie Russell Hochschild asks readers to climb the “empathy wall” and really try to understand the worldview of Trump voters—as she did, spending over five years getting to know white Southern Louisianians, many of them Cajun, who have extreme free-market, anti-government Tea Party politics although they live in “Cancer Alley,” an area where the petrochemical industry, abetted by the Republican politicians they voted for, has destroyed nature, their communities and their health. Hochschild has a deep grasp of human complexity, and her subjects come across as lovely people, despite their politics. As she hoped, I came away with a better understanding of how kindly people could vote for cruel policies, and how people who don’t think they’re racist actually are so.

But here’s my question: Who is telling the Tea Partiers and Trump voters to empathize with the rest of us?

why is someone making this poor woman read these articles

[FStop7]

that is fucking hysterical

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of course this is what that shitheel looks like

This is the face of someone who mains Reaper.

[benjipwns]

here's the real question, where is that mess of pipes supposed to be leading to? the exit point was comey's head in the first place

maybe if they were labeled more

[Raist]

here's the real question, where is that mess of pipes supposed to be leading to? the exit point was comey's head in the first place

maybe if they were labeled more

WaPo / CNN?

[VomKriege]

here's the real question, where is that mess of pipes supposed to be leading to? the exit point was comey's head in the first place

maybe if they were labeled more

[benjipwns]

it says russia, i think it's black lives matter stealing memorial day from us

[Human Snorenado]

Ossoff up 7 in the latest poll

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/georgia-house-poll-jon-ossoff-karen-handel/index.html

This can really happen, brehs.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/wsb-tv-poll-ossoff-handel-june-8

Poll from yesterday only has him up 2.5. Don't start sucking each other's dicks in celebration yet.

[VomKriege]

Ben Garrison

Trump has been exonerated. Comey, the fake news mainstream media, and the Deep State have been humiliated. The swamp has just been drained slightly, thus opening up a path to bring Hillary to justice. Lock her up!
Trump 1, The Deep State 0

Mostly, Europe needs to ban immigration altogether and give those already there a chance to assimilate. It’s too bad the Illuminati don’t want that.

I applaud President Trump for withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accord. It sends a clear message to doubters that he is indeed not in the pocket of the Illuminati like all of the presidents since Kennedy have been. (...) Leonardo DiCaprio said, “Our planet was threatened by Trump’s careless decision.” Notice how he doesn’t use the word ‘Earth.’ Instead we're just another planet out there—such as Mars—and its ready to have our atmosphere ripped away.

What is the Deep State? It consists of the illuminati who control vast fortunes. It includes the central bankers, the Bilderbergs, the CFR, and the spy agencies that illegally track and record Americans. They want power and control through collectivism. It’s the beast that wants bring about the New World Order. It’s the creature that Eisenhower tried to warn us about. It’s the entity that took out Kennedy when he tried to stop them. Since then, we’ve had too many presidents who were elected under the tacit approval of the Deep State. The possible exception was Ronald Reagan, and he wasn’t the same after he was shot by Hinckley.

[seagrams hotsauce]

"Notice how he doesn’t use the word ‘Earth.’ Instead we're just another planet out there"

Did we just witness the birth of Planetarism? What a time to be alive

[agrajag]

here's the real question, where is that mess of pipes supposed to be leading to? the exit point was comey's head in the first place

maybe if they were labeled more

To a bed of Russian hookers, those are piss pipes.

[Steve Contra]

Ossoff up 7 in the latest poll

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/georgia-house-poll-jon-ossoff-karen-handel/index.html

This can really happen, brehs.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/wsb-tv-poll-ossoff-handel-june-8

Poll from yesterday only has him up 2.5. Don't start sucking each other's dicks in celebration yet.

Don't tell me whose dick to suck

[Human Snorenado]

Ossoff up 7 in the latest poll

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/georgia-house-poll-jon-ossoff-karen-handel/index.html

This can really happen, brehs.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/wsb-tv-poll-ossoff-handel-june-8

Poll from yesterday only has him up 2.5. Don't start sucking each other's dicks in celebration yet.

Don't tell me whose dick to suck

You can suck whichever dick you want, just not in celebration.
 

[Mandark]

You can suck whichever dick you want, just not in celebration.

newsfeed pls

[VomKriege]

Asked by a reporter if he had told Comey to drop the investigation into former national security adviser Flynn, Trump said, "I didn't say that."

The reporter then asked, "So he lied about that?"

"Well, I didn't say that. I mean, I will tell you, I didn't say that," Trump replied. "And there would be nothing wrong if I did say it according to everybody that I've read today, but I did not say that," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1901FJ

 

[FStop7]

Asked by a reporter if he had told Comey to drop the investigation into former national security adviser Flynn, Trump said, "I didn't say that."

The reporter then asked, "So he lied about that?"

"Well, I didn't say that. I mean, I will tell you, I didn't say that," Trump replied. "And there would be nothing wrong if I did say it according to everybody that I've read today, but I did not say that," he said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1901FJ

 

[Steve Contra]

https://twitter.com/SimonMarksFSN/status/872858486895513600

How the fuck did we end up here?

[Human Snorenado]

Wait until he finds out all the shit his new buddies the Saudis do.

[Madrun Badrun]

The Saudis will be like 'Nah, not true friend' and Trump will be like 'Lets get rid of the state department, they don't know what they are talking about' 

[Mandark]

I like that Trump will say something that would normally be an enormous deal, and everyone has a tacit understanding that he's just bullshitting and probably already forgot he said it, but has to pretend otherwise. Sure, you're going to testify under oath contradicting Comey. Absolutely.

Remember when he said he'd look at "breaking up the banks?"

[Human Snorenado]

Eventually I'm sure he'll have to testify under oath, and I'm also sure he'll say Comey lied. Trump lies when he gets out of bed. It's a fundamental character trait.

[Joe Molotov]

Wait until he finds out all the shit his new buddies the Saudis do.

Peeing on hookers?

[Madrun Badrun]

You know the old saying, following hookers on IG can only lead to heart break.

[benjipwns]

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/can-hillary-clinton-please-go-quietly-into-the-night

But we can’t stay friendly to Hillary forever. There’s a fine line—or maybe not even so fine a line—between boosting morale and monopolizing the spotlight. One reason Bill Clinton was able to make a name for himself decades ago was that previous candidates had the grace to get out of the way. Jimmy Carter and Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis weren’t trying to place themselves at center stage during the campaign of 1992. The Clintons, by contrast, kept sticking around. When it comes to power, and a few other things, they can’t control their urges. As a friend of mine recently wrote to me in an e-mail, “They both had to be president?”

Even the name of Clinton’s PAC has a presumptuous ring to it. When someone has driven a bus off the road and hurled passengers out of their seats, it’s a bad time for the driver to stagger back to the wheel and call out “Onward together!” Onward, fine. Together, maybe not.

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Columnist: "Why won't columnists stop writing articles about Hillary Clinton?"

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[seagrams hotsauce]

Lol why do you still ride for her so hard? Do you genuinely not see what an albatross she's become?

[curly]

People would have cared more if it was Obama because Obama was generally well liked

[Madrun Badrun]

politics is like 90% charisma and she has none.  Its a shame because policy wise she should have been well liked by a lot of people. 

[benjipwns]

The only thing she should not do is run for President again in 2020, but she almost certainly won't.

That's because it's time for the candidate everyone deep down wanted, promise, honest, the complaint was only with Hillary:

Biden also weighed in on the 2016 race, offering criticism of Hillary Clinton’s performance. He told the group that he knew Clinton would lose key battleground states a month before Election Day, based on his assessment from having campaigned in those states.

It is not the first time Biden has tweaked Clinton in recent weeks. During a conference in Las Vegas last month hosted by hedge fund impresario and Trump supporter Anthony Scaramucci, Biden was quoted as saying that he “never” thought Clinton “was a great candidate.”

Biden recently opened a political action committee, allowing him to raise money for Democrats nationwide.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Dude, she lost to an idiot career con artist even with the entire machine of an whole political party behind her. That's both a huge indication of how poorly received her brand of politics are, and a huge negative on her resume. The bullshit about the emails hurt for sure, but if you think the take away is "don't get railroaded" instead of "run a candidate with a semblance of a message" I don't really know what to say.

And of course the reaction would have been different if it were Obama, since he didn't have two plus decades behind the wheel of some of the highest positions of power in the country, had something to say, and was effortlessly charming. You seriously can't see the difference between what the two represent?


I have no real idea if her disappearing would harm or help the left at this point. She's great at fundraising, and I am interested in hearing her insights into how all of this happened.

But I can completely understand why people want her to just go the fuck away. She's synonymous with status quo politics, and that is decreasingly resonant in an increasingly unsettled political climate. Oh, and she somehow, against all odds, lost to Donald fucking Trump. You're seriously baffled why people aren't lining up to welcome her back from the woods?

[etiolate]

The only way the press fucked Hilary over is by doing her bidding far too much. She ran that deplorable speech by them before presenting it and had them all write up primer articles on how to hate the alt-right Trump voter.

And then that blew up in her fucking face.

[Phoenix Dark]

Hillary is trash and never won a contested political election in her life. That being said I have no problem with her doing what every losing candidate has done: do some post election interviews and a post mortem. I'm going to assume she'll go back to the woods soon enough so why get mad over this.

[Great Rumbler]

Hillary does not get people excited. She didn't in 2008 and she didn't in 2016. Nothing's going to fix that. Dems need somebody who will get people excited [in whatever form that takes], they're not going to win by throwing out a Not Trump.

[Madrun Badrun]

they might after 4 years, and more likely they might think they can after 4 years. 

[etiolate]

I'm sure they think they can throw out a not-Trump, but I don't see that working out for them.

I thought this would be a one term president either way, but the left still seems to be in mourning and not exhibiting any commitment to correction.

[Phoenix Dark]

Really don't think the nominee matters too much. It would be impossible to field a candidate with as much baggage or high negatives as Hillary Clinton.

As long as dems find someone who excites enough of the base they'll be fine. Oh shit I forgot: Warren can't beat Trump, I hope she stays away.

[benjipwns]

Hillary is trash and never won a contested political election in her life.

She's the one who called Dick Morris back...twice...to get Bill re-elected. (And also called him on the down low for pro-tips during the 1992 primary.)

And Obama had never won a seriously contested election before 2008 either.

Really don't think the nominee matters too much. It would be impossible to field a candidate with as much baggage or high negatives as Hillary Clinton.

As long as dems find someone who excites enough of the base they'll be fine. Oh shit I forgot: Warren can't beat Trump, I hope she stays away.

McAuliffe/Clinton 2020

[Madrun Badrun]

Biden is my hope.  Its the 21st century, everyone is ancient. 

[benjipwns]

The Democrats should nominate Trump, that way they can't lose. It's brilliant. Trump will never see it coming. And the Russians and FBI will be on their side this time.

[El Babua]

Best thing this week has actually been Kurt Eichenwald and his saga of honking off to Hentai.