US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Joe Molotov]

I voted for Trump as soon as I became a citizen. Here's why I'm doing it again.
https://news.yahoo.com/american-gave-first-vote-trump-000200836.html

I came to the United States in 2009 at the age of 27 from an island where the last free and fair elections happened 72 years ago — Cuba. There, violent communist rule is not some "red scare" tactic or a concern of generations past but the insufferable reality for more than 11 million people, including many family members I was forced to leave behind when I received asylum here.

Then, as now, I didn't care about so-called political correctness when choosing a candidate; I realize many other Latinos favor more government involvement in our lives and young Latinos trend more liberal, but I'd had quite enough of groupthink in Cuba. I looked for a good manager and administrator to lead a government, and I felt and I now think that President Trump is the right person for the job.

Beyond that, Trump delivered on the 2016 campaign promises that were important to me then: He lowered taxes; he appointed judges to the federal bench who hew strictly to the Constitution; he has, at every turn, pushed for merit-based immigration; and he has rescinded a whole host of unnecessary regulations. His agenda was, and continues to be, pro-business, pro-family and pro-life.

So I was glad Joe Biden "beat the socialist" Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., who has praised a number of socialists and communist regimes, in the primaries; however, that win does not appear to have stopped the increasing influence of Sanders, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., and the other self-identified democratic socialists within the Democratic Party.

I can understand this guy's massive fear given his life experience. I'm a citizen of a post-Eastern Bloc country, but Donald J Trump ain't it chief.

Trump using his $7.5 Million bailout check to take down Big Socialism. 

[Mandark]

That frames the author as just "an immigrant" but he works for the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and was an intern at the Cato Institute.

He's an ideological think tank guy, which explains why his list of Trump accomplishments are such cookie cutter AEI language.

[Nintex]

I looked for a good manager and administrator to lead a government

lmao Trump is not good at any of those things

[headwalk]

thousands of pages of going over every very real and logical failing of trump, all the while knowing that he can still win the election simply by bullying a senile old man on a TV show.

[Nintex]

Trump did about 2 hours of debate prep with Chris Christie.

He's going to wing it and it'll be glorious

[james]

Democrats: Voting by mail is safe, secure, and easy

Democrats:

Multiple voters in Brooklyn told Gothamist / WNYC that they have received a mislabeled “official absentee ballot envelope.” Normally, the voter inserts their completed ballot into the envelope and signs the outside. But in these cases, their ballot envelopes bear the wrong name and address. If a person signs their own name to this faulty ballot envelope, the ballot would be voided.

So far, voters in Park Slope, Prospect Heights, Carroll Gardens, Crown Heights, Clinton Hill, Bushwick, Flatbush, Brooklyn Heights, Sunset Park, Williamsburg, Bedford-Stuyvesant, and Fort Greene have already reported the issue. More than 140,000 absentee ballots have gone out across the borough.

On Tuesday, the New York City Board of Elections announced a plan to print and mail new absentee ballots to nearly 100,000 voters who received erroneous envelopes in their absentee ballot packages. The decision comes after an unknown number of Brooklyn voters received absentee ballots with the wrong name and address printed on the return envelope.

Phoenix was awarded a $4.6 million contract to produce and distribute the absentee ballots for the BOE in May, The CITY reports, noting that “the contract was a negotiated acquisition, which means that there was no competitive bidding.”

https://gothamist.com/news/after-another-colossal-blunder-nyc-board-elections-send-new-ballots-nearly-100000-brooklyn-voters

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1311084592338735104

Joe's ready to rumble

I'm going to sleep good luck folks 

[BikeJesus]

Sleepy, Creepy Joe going to get steamrolled. This is elder abuse.

[Great Rumbler]

Sleepy, Creepy Joe going to get steamrolled. This is elder abuse.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Bernie Sanders endorsing Donald Trump after Joe Biden rejects green new deal.


Game over man, game over.

[Rahxephon91]

Don’t think Biden did bad at all. Not when Trump is low key telling his base to go in and intimidate voters.

[BikeJesus]

Biden: The green new deal will pay for itself!

Moderator: do you support the green new deal?

Biden: no!

[Boredfrom]

Biden lost the radical left. Sad.

[Boredfrom]

Biden: The green new deal will pay for itself!

Moderator: do you support the green new deal?

Biden: no!

 

Are you this dumb? He never supported the GND.

[benjipwns]

I thought it was a very healthy and informative debate, I learned a lot about not only both candidates but the process and our love of peaceful democracy here in the Northern Americas. I cannot wait for America to decide 2020 with its votes, it's exciting to know that when the people speak our politicians listen. Also, I hope Kamala wears her Chucks to the upcoming debate so I can wear them too and we'll be friends!

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/JillFilipovic/status/1311131508644679681

[Oblivion]

trump couldn't disown his white supremacist fanbase and even told the proud boys to "stand by" 

[BikeJesus]

trump couldn't disown his white supremacist fanbase and he told the proud boys to "stand by" 

Was a dumb question. He has denounced white supremacists many times.

[benjipwns]

They made a list of more than 30 celebrities including Justin Timberlake, Taylor Swift and Billy Joel to appear in their ad campaign to "inspire hope" about coronavirus, but they ended up with only Dennis Quaid, CeCe Winans and Hasidic singer Shulem Lemmer.

The health department’s $300 million-plus, taxpayer-funded vehicle to boost confidence in President Donald Trump’s response to the pandemic is sputtering. Celebrities are refusing to participate, and staff are arraying against it. Some complain of the unstated aim of helping Trump’s re-election. Others point to an ill-prepared video team and a 22-year-old political appointee who has repeatedly asserted control despite having no public health expertise, according to six people with close knowledge of the campaign and documents related to its operations.

[Boredfrom]

trump couldn't disown his white supremacist fanbase and he told the proud boys to "stand by" 

Was a dumb question. He has denounced white supremacists many times.

Ayyy fuck you.

[Great Rumbler]

22-year-old political appointee

The best people.

[HaughtyFrank]

trump couldn't disown his white supremacist fanbase and he told the proud boys to "stand by" 

Was a dumb question. He has denounced white supremacists many times.

That really doesn't explain why he couldn't do it

[Oblivion]

trump couldn't disown his white supremacist fanbase and he told the proud boys to "stand by" 

Was a dumb question. He has denounced white supremacists many times.

so why couldn't he do so one more time since he had so much practice, according to you?

also do you think it was a dumb question for wallace to ask biden to denounce antifa? 

[Rahxephon91]

trump couldn't disown his white supremacist fanbase and he told the proud boys to "stand by" 

Was a dumb question. He has denounced white supremacists many times.

H has said white supremacists are bad but never goes into specifics. Even today he refused to say that systematic racism exists or that the country even has a problem. He never says those things because his base also doesn’t  see themselves as racist. People rarely will say they are something that is bad. 

Just like with all the whistleblowing and talk of invaders in the suburbs. He’s not going to say it outright but it’s so obvious what he means.

[Oblivion]

also another great moment was trump saying no one died from the tulsa rally 


i wonder if herman cain's looking down from White Heaven with disappointment at trump's comment 

[headwalk]

it was an utter shit show but biden did his job by staying lucid for 90 minutes. he didn't seem like for a moment he was enjoying himself and his creepy talk to the camera moments had an air of gil from the simpsons about them, but at least he didn't bumble over his words an accidentally say he was going to free all the nonces or anything.

trump was just a raging bellend as expected, but he likely he got what he wanted by dragging joe down to his level.

probably a draw all told, which is a result for the dems given their lead.

[Trurl]

Biden should have agreed to a mutual drug test.

[benjipwns]

BikeJesus, what are we supposed to be standing by for?

ER I MEAN

[Boredfrom]

it was an utter shit show but biden did his job by staying lucid for 90 minutes. he didn't seem like for a moment he was enjoying himself and his creepy talk to the camera moments had an air of gil from the simpsons about them, but at least he didn't bumble over his words an accidentally say he was going to free all the nonces or anything.

trump was just a raging bellend as expected.

Why the fuck anyone will enjoy having to deal with Trump for 90 minutes?

[headwalk]

it was an utter shit show but biden did his job by staying lucid for 90 minutes. he didn't seem like for a moment he was enjoying himself and his creepy talk to the camera moments had an air of gil from the simpsons about them, but at least he didn't bumble over his words an accidentally say he was going to free all the nonces or anything.

trump was just a raging bellend as expected.

Why the fuck anyone will enjoy having to deal with Trump for 90 minutes?

it's like arguing on the internet. you don't win by making the better points, you win by being the one who appears to be having more fun.

[BikeJesus]

I think if someone kept asking me the same question I would stop playing their game.

It makes sense to ask Sleepy Creepy Joe about Antifa because as far as I know, he hasn't been asked that and given his answer.

You see the difference?

[Rahxephon91]

lol he did remind me of Gil though with the constant stares at the camera.

But other then that he did'nt seem to have as many gafs or "dementia" like the Trump campaign has pushed.

[Oblivion]

I think if someone kept asking me the same question I would stop playing their game.

yes, if there's one thing trump hates doing it's repeating himself

[benjipwns]

I think if someone kept asking me the same question I would stop playing their game.

It's really not that hard to say "yes, white supremacists I condemn, my supporters are not that how dare you conflate the two blah blah blah" rather than freezing up. It's been five years now.

[Boredfrom]

I think if someone kept asking me the same question I would stop playing their game.

It's really not that hard to say "yes, white supremacists I condemn, my supporters are not that how dare you conflate the two blah blah blah" rather than freezing up. It's been five years now.

Is like he considers his followers white supremacists and that they are dumb enough to get mad at him for denouncing them in public.

[BikeJesus]

I think if someone kept asking me the same question I would stop playing their game.

It's really not that hard to say "yes, white supremacists I condemn, my supporters are not that how dare you conflate the two blah blah blah" rather than freezing up. It's been five years now.

But he has condemned them.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/

https://ew.com/tv/2017/08/14/trump-white-supremacists-charlottesville/?amp=true

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/543477490/racism-is-evil-trump-denounces-the-kkk-neo-nazis-and-white-supremacists

https://www.efe.com/efe/english/portada/trump-condemns-white-supremacists-blames-culture-of-violence-for-shootings/50000260-4037601

https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-condemns-kkk-white-supremacists-wake-charlottesville/amp/

https://qz.com/1681650/trump-condemns-the-white-supremacists-he-inspires/

[Oblivion]

"i'm tired of denouncing the same people over and over again, so in order to mix things up, i'm going to fully endorse them this time around" is an interesting defense

[benjipwns]

I never said he hasn't, I know he has. I'm saying it's been five years, he should be able to turn it around on both the questioner AND redirect it to ANTIFA BIDEN in his sleep at this point. Instead he still freezes up and refuses to do it consistently.

He has no reason to not condemn white supremacists unless, you know, he thinks many of his fans are white supremacists.

[BikeJesus]

In case you haven't noticed, Trump doesn't like to go on the defensive. Even when Biden said he called the military losers and suckers, Trump didn't defend himself and say he never said that. Instead he went back on the offensive. Constantly defending yourself is a good way to look weak.

The news cycle will once again be all about Trump, just the way he likes it. He will call out the fake news for banging the same drum they always do.

[Rahxephon91]

"I have nothing against black people, but I sure don't want them moving near me"

"I have plenty of black friends, but they are the good ones"


Kind of hard to take his claims of denouncing white supremacy seriously, when he can't even admit that the country has problems with it. Or whisleblows about "invaders" in the suburbs.

He has no reason to not condemn white supremacists unless, you know, he thinks many of his fans are white supremacists.

But I don't think his base think they are.

[Boredfrom]

In case you haven't noticed, Trump doesn't like to go on the defensive. Even when Biden said he called the military losers and suckers, Trump didn't defend himself and say he never said that. Instead he went back on the offensive. Constantly defending yourself is a good way to look weak.

The news cycle will once again be all about Trump, just the way he likes it. He will call out the fake news for banging the same drum they always do.

But he has said in the past that he never called the military losers and suckers. 

Also, why the fuck you will consider this fake news? 

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew/status/1311138492907499521

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/1311122015240237056

https://twitter.com/davidaxelrod/status/1311142395141132288

[Himu]

trump couldn't disown his white supremacist fanbase and he told the proud boys to "stand by" 

Was a dumb question. He has denounced white supremacists many times.

Get fucked.

[tiesto]

[benjipwns]

President Trump just turned in the greatest debate performance in presidential history, displaying a command of the facts and control of the conversation. Joe Biden was revealed as too weak to be president and spent most of the evening on his heels, unable to explain his 47 years of failure as a Washington politician, and even his friends in the liberal media will be unable to spin this as anything other than a miserable failure. Biden is too weak to stand up to the radical left, too weak to stand up to China, too weak to stand up to anti-police leftists, too weak to lead on the economy, and too weak to defeat Covid. Americans saw a strong president on top of his game against an inadequate challenger, who cannot be allowed to become president.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/1311138157899976710

https://twitter.com/EdMarkey/status/1311123887686660100

https://twitter.com/danielggarza/status/1311139548706074626

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/emilyjashinsky/status/1311148830163906561

 

[Rahxephon91]

How did he win the debate? By yelling complete nonsense?

[EchoRin]

That drinking bingo was pretty good. Nearly filled out. Was afraid crooked Hillary wouldn't arrive, but it did just at the end.

Was a shit show just as I expected. Wasn't ready for "Proud Boys stand back stand by" though 

[BIONIC]

Any Corn Pop mentions?

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

 

https://www.twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1311128234268831745

[VomKriege]

White Soup at Macy's ?
Don't see the problem.

[benjipwns]

[VomKriege]

"Proud boys, stand down" an unexpected call for humility and against toxic masculinity.

[Coitus]

Death rattle of a failing state. 

[Trurl]

It didn't occur to me last night, but Trump was really scared. 

[Pissy F Benny]

I wish ocean was here to deliver his verdict

[Nintex]

Looking at the highlights of this glorious train wreck, my first takes.

- Biden could not clown Trump the way he destroyed Paul Ryan back in the day

- Trump realized Joe was not sleepy or demented and as easy to shutdown as he thought

- Trump is visibly pissed that Biden could end his whole political career, something he probably didn't yet realize until this debate

- Trump seemed to think that Chris was going to bat for him, trying to persuade him to his side and addressing him directly

- Biden and Trump are both poor at relaying campaign and party messages and both mostly hold their own positions,
Trump on proud boys and the virus, Biden on the supreme court and policing

Neither of them won decisively in the way they thought they could.
I think another debate would actually be helpful.

Now that they got this frustration out of their system and they sized each other up realizing they can both win they can rework their strategies accordingly.


Also Sleepy Joe is not as effective as 'Crooked Hillary'. Crooked could be associated with a number of things and is not only a powerful visual metaphor but also
as a way to highlight her weaknesses in dealing with foreign governments, wall street and other special interests. Crooked Hillary is a villain that Trump could defeat.

Sleepy Joe doesn't work as well because Sleepy doesn't hold the same weight to it as crooked. The same way as Dangerous Donald didn't work, becuase that actually sounds kind of cool.
The sleepy nickname also isn't tied to Joe's history and conduct as a career politician. So it mostly falls flat as an attack beyond memes. In fact it hurts Trump if he loses an argument
with Sleepy Joe. If even someone as sleepy as Joe can fight him in the ring, he comes across as rather weak and uncertain.
Trump should've gone with something like Sleazy Joe. Sleazy meaning that he would make deals with anyone, like the Chinese or Ukrainians to make sure he gets his piece of the pie and/or
cheat at the debates. That would make people question what Biden is doing when he's not out there campaigning and hiding in his basement. They can imagine him making all sorts of deals
and messing around with ballots or whatever. When it's sleepy, well, Joe is just sleeping in his basement. That's not a danger to anyone.

[ToxicAdam]

America isn't in decline, it's been Ohio all along. People are just finally realizing it.

[Uncle]

America isn't in decline, it's been Ohio all along. People are just finally realizing it.

fuck this is shockingly accurate right down to its historical voting record

it's not the deep south but it's not california either

you cracked the code