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[TVC15]

https://twitter.com/CharlieDaniels/status/948898725140643841

[Mandark]

To be precise, it was a local Fox station story, if I recall.

The local affiliate here ran a segment with the investigator, but the main story (which cited a "federal" source) was posted to Fox News' website.

Original story: http://web.archive.org/web/20170516133954/http:/www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/slain-dnc-staffer-had-contact-with-wikileaks-investigator-says.html

Retraction: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/23/statement-on-coverage-seth-rich-murder-investigation.html

[etiolate]

To be precise, it was a local Fox station story, if I recall.

The local affiliate here ran a segment with the investigator, but the main story (which cited a "federal" source) was posted to Fox News' website.

Original story: http://web.archive.org/web/20170516133954/http:/www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/16/slain-dnc-staffer-had-contact-with-wikileaks-investigator-says.html

Retraction: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/23/statement-on-coverage-seth-rich-murder-investigation.html

Yeah I think this was the fight between the detective and Fox News, arguing over the release timing/exclusivity of the story between the two.

The fed source being second hand, through Hersh.

[Phoenix Dark]

BTW we had that convo at the time, and iirc I posted the retraction. iirc Etoilet you basically shrugged it off, and now are repeating it again as if this wasn't already addressed.

[Mandark]

Yeah I think this was the fight between the detective and Fox News, arguing over the release timing/exclusivity of the story between the two.

Are you saying this was the reason for the retraction or for something else? I'm unclear.

[Broseidon]

Sy Hersh literally just makes shit up and gets it published for example his Syria hoaxes

[etiolate]

I think the retraction was over negative attention and in-fighting over the process. There may have been a difference in claims with the story that they couldn't back up.

The retraction doesn't mean anything now that we know there is a federal source via Sy Hersh.

I shrugged it off because there was no disproving of the story, just a lot of anon sources pushing against other anon sources. Sy Hersh is more trustworthy than anyone involved at the point of the Fox story.

[Nola]

It was presented first on a local Fox News affiliate in DC. The source of the story was Rod Wheeler and Malia Zimmerman's story from Fox News proper. A story that was silently retracted by Fox weeks after it turned out Malia made up the source, the FBI was never involved with the case, the local station made a public condemnation of Wheeler and Zimmerman after they were unable to verify the authenticity of their source and Fox News tried to blame shift by muddying the origin of the story on their network. Followed up by Rod Wheeler subsequently filing a lawsuit against Fox for that very story. Which he alleged Malia, Butowski, with the cooperation of Fox News, slandered him by falsely attributing their poor journalism to him and fired him as cover.

Hersh's response has been that Butowski, one of the people now named in the lawsuit(that the lawsuit also cited text messages that said Butowski, a friend of Trump, was in contact with the White House about properly timing of the story. Which people will remember came an hour after the Trump NBC interview where he admitted to obstruction) took gossip he heard from Hersh and that Butowski "put 2 and 2 together and somehow got 45." Hersh went on to mention that the audio released was selectively edited(shock), to exclude the preceding portion where his source and his own conclusions was that the murder was a botched robbery. That all the gossip entailed was a single person that thought Rich may have been in contact with Wikileaks but offered no evidence to support it.

Malia though has gone on to have great success at Fox News, who must really have otherwise high journalistic integrity, since she was never reprimanded by Fox for that shoddy journalism, and now recently was a featured reporter penning many Uranium One stories. Another notch on the credibility post of Fox News.


....All points explained to etoilet, but that must of been when I was on ignore after he got triggered the first time for pointing out the faulty reasoning of his initial love interest in the Seth Rich story.

[Nola]

BTW we had that convo at the time, and iirc I posted the retraction. iirc Etoilet you basically shrugged it off, and now are repeating it again as if this wasn't already addressed.

The power of confirmation bias at work.

[agrajag]

 

[Phoenix Dark]

This is literal fake news that you're still peddling.

[etiolate]

Sigh.

No.

Assange hints at it. Hersh says he has source. Kim said he had contact.  Nobody fully coming forward. So it's just wait and see.

[Broseidon]

All three are conspiracy theory-pushing cranks tho 

[Nola]

Sy Hersh literally just makes shit up and gets it published for example his Syria hoaxes

And what does it say when he says publicly that the gossip he heard from this source wasn't fit to print?

[kingv]

the fact that you don’t believe the Steele Dossier but think Kim dotcom is reliable source basically proves that everything in the Steele Dossier is true.

The motherfucker changed his last name to dotcom!!!

That’s all you really need to know about him.

This is on the same level as naming your kid Turok in 1998 for that activision contest.

[etiolate]

Hersh and Assange help expose some of the biggest stories of recent times in regards to state abuse and unseemly going-ons. Kim won his court case.

Conspiracy pushing cranks seems an ill fitting label.

[kingv]

assange is now in the piracy biz.  He’s a total joke.

[Nola]

Knowing etoilet isn't aware of his ongoing stupidity is kind of fun:

Hersh warns Butowsky against believing anything Assange might say. You can hear Hersh also give this caution to Butowsky at the end: "It doesn't make it true. It doesn't make it true." Hersh tells NPR he meant that the report might be wrong or might not exist at all.

But Hersh now says he was fishing for information from Butowsky. "I did not talk to anybody at the FBI — not about this," Hersh tells NPR. "Nothing is certain until it's proved. And I didn't publish any story on this."

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/16/543830392/the-role-of-ed-butowsky-in-advancing-retracted-seth-rich-story

[benjipwns]

this would be better with 18-29 year old's having lowest "not sure" too:

[benjipwns]

This is on the same level as naming your kid Turok in 1998 for that activision contest.

[Nola]

George W. Bush at 5% triggers me.

[Great Rumbler]

George W. Bush at 5% triggers me.

Nobody cares about Dubya anymore.

[benjipwns]

Look at all the Berniebros hating Hillary through Bill in that 18-29 bracket.

[benjipwns]

Even worse is that 8% of that age group thinks "Not Sure" from Idiocracy was an actual President.

[benjipwns]

So many people listing Trump as their pick is so infuriating for this reason. He's been in office for one year and done nothing but be a successful Republican president because we live in prosperous times.

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the funny part is the numbers who agreed that he's the worst ever are all greater than the number who said he's the worst of the last 40 years

he jumps from 24% of 18-29 saying he's the worst of last 40 years to 51% of 18-29 saying he's the worst. ever.

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[Nola]

George W. Bush at 5% triggers me.

So many people listing Trump as their pick is so infuriating for this reason. He's been in office for one year and done nothing but be a successful Republican president because we live in prosperous times.

I mean Trump is gaining ground quickly in my mind with his healthcare fuckery, Paris Accords, regulatory capture, cronyism, the tax bill, and his general incompetence mixed with authoritarian derived stress tests on our institutions that could have some major long-term consequences, but, IMO, he'll have to really fuck some shit up outside our borders to catch up to Bush, and be much more influential to pass Reagan on my shit list.


...Though I'm curious the source Benji?

[benjipwns]

PPP Halloween poll, Trump also defeats Ghosts, Vampires, Mummies, Witches, Zombies and Werewolves but loses 51-36 to the Devil as scarier

[Mandark]

George W. Bush at 5% triggers me.

I'm probably never going to stop badmouthing that dude. I'm going to be the equivalent of the old guy in the barbershop stanning for Oscar Robertson as the greatest of all time cause that's who he grew up with.

[thehunter116]

https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/950897678640132096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FHoarseWisperer%2Fstatus%2F950897678640132096


This really is Stupid Watergate.

Also fuck the GOP for covering for this asshole.

[benjipwns]

i hope Robert Mueller is spending all his time making lists of people to indict for 50-part tweets

[thehunter116]

i hope Robert Mueller is spending all his time making lists of people to indict for 50-part tweets

Says the man-cat who writes 50 tweet replies on this board 

[Tasty]

Holy shit etoilet is fucking dumb.

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/HoarseWisperer/status/950897678640132096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FHoarseWisperer%2Fstatus%2F950897678640132096


This really is Stupid Watergate.

Also fuck the GOP for covering for this asshole.

I'd say my biggest takeaways after trudging through that and sleeping on it is:

1.) Republicans are going to try and run with some of the Bill Browder stuff because while as a whole I think the testimony actually comes out better than I expected for Simpson, you can(and I guarantee the right wing will) take it out of context and use the public's rather tenuous understanding, like they did with Uranium One, to obfuscate and rile up the base.

2.) If you are a journalism major, make sure one of your stops is in the strategic research and intelligence field to pay back that student loan.

2.) While I wouldn't go so far as to call the Dossier now credible, getting a greater sense of GPS, Steele, the timeline of events, and the background to the Dossier's genesis and path to the FBI changes my calculus on the document a good bit. Steele basically was sub-contracted to broadly see what he can find about Trump within Russia after they hit a wall using publicly available information, primarily emphasized around business concerns. Steele goes in, starts putting his ear to the ground and starts hearing all this crazy shit from people inside the Kremlin that are still kind of treating Trump like this fringe piece of entertainment, so there is an openness to just divulging shit.

And my takeaway, whether you want to trust Steele's sources or not, Steele clearly did find them credible. If this was just a guy trying to make a quick buck by compiling gossip that as a former MI6 agent he doesn't believe in, then I ask myself why, unprovoked, does he end up on the phone with Simpson deeply concerned, feeling he needs to reach out to the FBI? When Simpson says I'm not sure, he comes back insistent and convinced its his duty to report it. That testimony explains why Republicans, who wanted to keep this testimony confidential, started the poisoning of the well with charges of Steele seeking that rich FBI money, but under even the basic application of reason and reading of this testimony that falls apart.

[benjipwns]

Former Maricopa County, Ariz. Sheriff Joe Arpaio resurfaced ... claims on Wednesday that former President Barack Obama's birth certificate is a "forgery" and said Congress should pass a law requiring such documents to be examined.

"I'm going to tell you again that that document is a forgery document," Arpaio told WABC's Rita Cosby."And nobody will touch it."

"I wanted to get it to Congress so they can pass some type of law – regulation – that when somebody runs for president you ought to check their background, so this won't happen again," he added. "But I can't get anybody – anybody – to even look at it."

Arpaio announced on Tuesday that he will seek the Republican nomination in Arizona's 2018 Senate race. He told Cosby on Wednesday that he would raise the issue of Obama's birth certificate in Congress.

[benjipwns]

Says the man-cat who writes 50 tweet replies on this board 

This entire scheme is so transparent it wouldn't even make a good spy movie - but an excellent trashy beach novel. Who is Steele? Why is he any more credible than the now discredited Peter Strzok? Why is he a "former" MI6 agent? Fusion is run by former WSJ dirt reporters who built an entire business around slinging fake dirt to create false political narrative (not a new thing - see "Yellow Journalism.") Hillary and the DNC have dead interns, indicted IT techs accused of espionage, lost and stolen emails, and they hire questionable groups like Fusion and Crowdstrike , but refuse to cooperate with FBI investigations into server hacks, while Fusion is hiring the wife of a senior DOJ official to write a fake dossier and give it to the FBI. everyone is Col. Klink or Sgt. Shultz, and Donna Brazil is afraid for her life. We have real adultery (Strzok's and Page), child predators named Weiner, fainting into black vans, smashed cell phones, bribes, fires, laptops left in phone booths (yes there are still phone booths somewhere). Dirty cops, unscrupulous lawyers, obtuse witnesses, and the American version of Bagdad Bob. Throw in a bald guy that's been caught perjuring himself and voila. In the middle of it all is Perkin Coie - a secretive law firm started by Bill Clinton's, Hillary's, and Obama's lawyers. All we need is a little dog. AND - none of the above points at P-Trump. C'mon Man.

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[Great Rumbler]

Former Maricopa County, Ariz. Sheriff Joe Arpaio resurfaced ... claims on Wednesday that former President Barack Obama's birth certificate is a "forgery" and said Congress should pass a law requiring such documents to be examined.

"I'm going to tell you again that that document is a forgery document," Arpaio told WABC's Rita Cosby."And nobody will touch it."

"I wanted to get it to Congress so they can pass some type of law – regulation – that when somebody runs for president you ought to check their background, so this won't happen again," he added. "But I can't get anybody – anybody – to even look at it."

Arpaio announced on Tuesday that he will seek the Republican nomination in Arizona's 2018 Senate race. He told Cosby on Wednesday that he would raise the issue of Obama's birth certificate in Congress.

We really are living in Idiocracy.

[kingv]

Oh, no doubt it will take a few years before we understand how bad trump did or did not fuck us.

[thehunter116]

I mean Trump is gaining ground quickly in my mind with his healthcare fuckery, Paris Accords, regulatory capture, cronyism, the tax bill, and his general incompetence mixed with authoritarian derived stress tests on our institutions that could have some major long-term consequences, but, IMO, he'll have to really fuck some shit up outside our borders to catch up to Bush, and be much more influential to pass Reagan on my shit list.

One thing I'm worried about is the complete standstill of important government progress. Governance is deliberate, and takes planning and dilligence. I'm worried that when we come out of this, we'll be so behind in many measurable ways, like infrastructure debt, incarceration rates, public health, ecological collapse, etc.

We're behind on all of those things already.

[benjipwns]

no behind, no behind, you're behind

[curly]

saying trump is the worst president ever is like saying giannis is a certain hall of famer

Sure he's got a promising start and infinite potential but one knee injury or stroke and it all goes up in smoke

[Oblivion]

It was presented first on a local Fox News affiliate in DC. The source of the story was Rod Wheeler and Malia Zimmerman's story from Fox News proper. A story that was silently retracted by Fox weeks after it turned out Malia made up the source, the FBI was never involved with the case, the local station made a public condemnation of Wheeler and Zimmerman after they were unable to verify the authenticity of their source and Fox News tried to blame shift by muddying the origin of the story on their network. Followed up by Rod Wheeler subsequently filing a lawsuit against Fox for that very story. Which he alleged Malia, Butowski, with the cooperation of Fox News, slandered him by falsely attributing their poor journalism to him and fired him as cover.

Hersh's response has been that Butowski, one of the people now named in the lawsuit(that the lawsuit also cited text messages that said Butowski, a friend of Trump, was in contact with the White House about properly timing of the story. Which people will remember came an hour after the Trump NBC interview where he admitted to obstruction) took gossip he heard from Hersh and that Butowski "put 2 and 2 together and somehow got 45." Hersh went on to mention that the audio released was selectively edited(shock), to exclude the preceding portion where his source and his own conclusions was that the murder was a botched robbery. That all the gossip entailed was a single person that thought Rich may have been in contact with Wikileaks but offered no evidence to support it.

Malia though has gone on to have great success at Fox News, who must really have otherwise high journalistic integrity, since she was never reprimanded by Fox for that shoddy journalism, and now recently was a featured reporter penning many Uranium One stories. Another notch on the credibility post of Fox News.


....All points explained to etoilet, but that must of been when I was on ignore after he got triggered the first time for pointing out the faulty reasoning of his initial love interest in the Seth Rich story.

Here's what I don't get about all this, and maybe I'm missing something, but.. even assuming what et about the Wikileaks connection was true, what does any of that have to do  with the claim that Hillary or the DNC murdered Seth Rich? The whole reason anyone on the Right cared one lick about what happened to Rich was because they thought they could tie his death to Hillary/The DNC. If you don't have that, then what does it matter if Rich was in contact with Assange or whoever?

[Nola]

It was presented first on a local Fox News affiliate in DC. The source of the story was Rod Wheeler and Malia Zimmerman's story from Fox News proper. A story that was silently retracted by Fox weeks after it turned out Malia made up the source, the FBI was never involved with the case, the local station made a public condemnation of Wheeler and Zimmerman after they were unable to verify the authenticity of their source and Fox News tried to blame shift by muddying the origin of the story on their network. Followed up by Rod Wheeler subsequently filing a lawsuit against Fox for that very story. Which he alleged Malia, Butowski, with the cooperation of Fox News, slandered him by falsely attributing their poor journalism to him and fired him as cover.

Hersh's response has been that Butowski, one of the people now named in the lawsuit(that the lawsuit also cited text messages that said Butowski, a friend of Trump, was in contact with the White House about properly timing of the story. Which people will remember came an hour after the Trump NBC interview where he admitted to obstruction) took gossip he heard from Hersh and that Butowski "put 2 and 2 together and somehow got 45." Hersh went on to mention that the audio released was selectively edited(shock), to exclude the preceding portion where his source and his own conclusions was that the murder was a botched robbery. That all the gossip entailed was a single person that thought Rich may have been in contact with Wikileaks but offered no evidence to support it.

Malia though has gone on to have great success at Fox News, who must really have otherwise high journalistic integrity, since she was never reprimanded by Fox for that shoddy journalism, and now recently was a featured reporter penning many Uranium One stories. Another notch on the credibility post of Fox News.


....All points explained to etoilet, but that must of been when I was on ignore after he got triggered the first time for pointing out the faulty reasoning of his initial love interest in the Seth Rich story.

Here's what I don't get about all this, and maybe I'm missing something, but.. even assuming what et about the Wikileaks connection was true, what does any of that have to do  with the claim that Hillary or the DNC murdered Seth Rich? The whole reason anyone on the Right cared one lick about what happened to Rich was because they thought they could tie his death to Hillary/The DNC. If you don't have that, then what does it matter if Rich was in contact with Assange or whoever?

If you are dumb enough to not realize there was more than one hack(regular Fox News viewers and etoilet), the logic seemingly goes that Seth Rich being the leaker exonerates Russia of meddling and by proxy clears Trump of any possible collusion and proves the libs were/are just hyperventilating irrationalists. Also plays right into the decades long struggle that white Christian male Republicans have endured being the most persecuted class in society. I think the Hillary conspiracy comes from the right-wing exaggeration that the emails supposedly contained utterly incriminating evidence that Hillary colluded with the DNC to steal the primary from Bernie, and Hillary, being the ice bitch serial killer she is, with kill counts going back to the 90’s, once again had a political adversary killed to advance her lust for power and vengeance. Women are crazy you know?

Of course we now know that Russia was running around waving in the air numerous sets of emails, including to the Trump campaign, that Don Jr. hoped Daddy would finally love him for getting into bed with the Russians like he did in the 80’s.

[kingv]

I think it just depends on what metrics you use for worst.

In terms of outcome, he is not the worst, but he is easily the worst in terms of qualified for the job.

[Assimilate]

I mean Trump is gaining ground quickly in my mind with his healthcare fuckery, Paris Accords, regulatory capture, cronyism, the tax bill, and his general incompetence mixed with authoritarian derived stress tests on our institutions that could have some major long-term consequences, but, IMO, he'll have to really fuck some shit up outside our borders to catch up to Bush, and be much more influential to pass Reagan on my shit list.

One thing I'm worried about is the complete standstill of important government progress. Governance is deliberate, and takes planning and dilligence. I'm worried that when we come out of this, we'll be so behind in many measurable ways, like infrastructure debt, incarceration rates, public health, ecological collapse, etc.

We're behind on all of those things already.

Incarceration rate? i never understood this complaint. The U.S is a big and diverse country, it's only logical we'd be throwing more people in jail.

99% of the time the idiots that complain about this stuff are the same assholes that live nowhere near a bad neighborhood. Go live next to one, or in one, and see if you feel the same.

I'm in a south american country right now and i WISHHHHH they'd throw a lot of these assholes in jail. Just last week a physician got shot dead inside his own office because he refused to give a thief his money. The criminal will most likely serve little time in prison and be let go.

That's what some of you want for the U.S? A lax system? Fuck that, throw these fuckers in jail. I don't want to hear this cry baby shit "oh but they lack opportunity, education.." ok ? so educate yourselves, try and be decent citizens. Get a fucking ID for christ sakes.

It's a cultural thing and some cultures are simply far worse than others.

[Tasty]

Let's see how the North Korea situation shakes out before we go about saying he's not the worst President ever.

[agrajag]

The other day I overheard someone saying that Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize because North Korea and South Korea are talking.

[I'm a Puppy!]

The other day I overheard someone saying that Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize because North Korea and South Korea are talking.

So, more than Obama did for his?

[kingv]

So apparently trump has been misleading people about getting an MBA from Wharton, when he in fact just was a student at UPenn undergrad, and I guess doesn’t have an MBA at all.

This is probably the reason he didn’t release his transcripts.

[agrajag]

He's, like, a very smart person.

[Great Rumbler]

This morning the President got confused by a Fox news segment and lashed out at his own FISA reauthorization bill on Twitter.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/951490013744762881

Making videogames real.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951478281303416832

At least the tax cut is already working, though! Job creators!

http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-suddenly-closes-sams-club-stores-2018-1

Oh....

[Nola]

This morning the President got confused by a Fox news segment and lashed out at his own FISA reauthorization bill on Twitter.

The guy is basically that mentally declining Fox News Grandpa everyone has met, except this one has the nuclear codes. Though in the case of my Grandpa, he didn't spend WWII getting bowling trophies after being "diagnosed" with bone spurs.

[thehunter116]

Hey look companies just used the tax cuts for PR and still were Cunts.

Who knew 

[kingv]

So apparently trump has been misleading people about getting an MBA from Wharton, when he in fact just was a student at UPenn undergrad, and I guess doesn’t have an MBA at all.

This is probably the reason he didn’t release his transcripts.

This should have been common knowledge two years ago. I knew about it.

When people hear “Wharton”, their minds automatically go to that top 3 MBA program. The ubiquitous connotation makes it kind of a lie by omission.

It just goes to show how bad the Media was at looking into shit in 2016, and how bad Hillary’s campaign was. Why weren’t they mocking him constantly about this?

[Nola]

So apparently trump has been misleading people about getting an MBA from Wharton, when he in fact just was a student at UPenn undergrad, and I guess doesn’t have an MBA at all.

This is probably the reason he didn’t release his transcripts.

This should have been common knowledge two years ago. I knew about it.

When people hear “Wharton”, their minds automatically go to that top 3 MBA program. The ubiquitous connotation makes it kind of a lie by omission.

It just goes to show how bad the Media was at looking into shit in 2016, and how bad Hillary’s campaign was. Why weren’t they mocking him constantly about this?

I agree on Hillary, but i'm not always sure its a moral failing of the media issue.

I think like a lot of stories in this era though, Trump is just a tornado of constant deception, scandal, and general fuckery that news stories that would be major news cycle drivers in any other administration, get caught up in the wrong moment of some larger fuckery. So they often fall to the wayside.

Like I remember this Daily Beast report that to me was incredibly alarming about just how deep the cronyism is becoming in this administration....But it came out the same day that leaks about Mueller's first indictment likely happening the following Monday started to break.

Me personally, I was shocked myself listening to an interview with Susan Hennessy and her mentioning this letter Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer, sent to Putin's spokesperson. Which the Washington Post got a hold of in August. Basically the letter is an out and open attempt to try and leverage the Trump campaign's clout to help break stalled talks on a business venture. To set up meetings with Putin and those in his circle to try and work something out to get a deal done. Which in hindsight becomes even more problematic because Trump has declined to divest his interests and raises obvious questions about what may be influencing his and other's of influence's judgement in regards to his actions as president and Commander-in-chief. And is just one more blatant attempt to try and build a working relationship with Russia during the campaign...Of course that broke the same time as Harvey and while the right-wing media was catastrophizing about ANTIFA at Berkley, and other stories like Trump lifting the ban on sending military equipment to police and in the aftermath of Trump's Charlottesville conference. So I clearly missed it.

[agrajag]

kingv why the fuck do you always bring up Hillary like a Republican with tourettes?

I think you misspelled Jack?

[Nola]

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Wednesday balked at an immigration deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and African countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the conversation.

Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive proceedings of the private meeting.

When Mr. Trump heard that Haitians were among those who would benefit, he asked if they could be left out of the plan, according to the people familiar with the conversation, asking, “Why do we want people from Haiti here?”

The comments were reminiscent of ones the president made last year in an Oval Office meeting with Cabinet officials and administration aides, where he complained about admitting Haitians to the country, complaining that they all had AIDS, as well as Nigerians, who he said would never go back to their “huts,” according to officials who heard the statements in person or were briefed on the remarks by people who did. The White House vehemently denied last month that Mr. Trump made those remarks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-immigration-norway-haiti.html?action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=66345417&pgtype=Homepage

 

....Somewhere, stuck in an undisclosed but proclaimed culturally and genetically inferior country, Assimilate just popped wood.

[Phoenix Dark]

Can't wait to hear Ben Shapiro, conservative genius/non-Nazi, explain why this isn't racist 

[TakingBackSunday]

just fucking croak already, you cheeto-dicked chode