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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34080 on: June 01, 2019, 12:57:52 PM »
What do before a state visit

https://twitter.com/Kevinliptakcnn/status/1134574636610531328

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« Reply #34081 on: June 01, 2019, 04:03:33 PM »
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« Reply #34082 on: June 01, 2019, 04:16:31 PM »
What do before a state visit

https://twitter.com/Kevinliptakcnn/status/1134574636610531328

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34088 on: June 01, 2019, 06:34:52 PM »
https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1133914824369459200

wtf

I mean....Is he wrong?

Just saw this response, not sure if serious. He is listing those things as positive things to make himself appear more palatable for conservatives. In other words, he is awful.

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« Reply #34089 on: June 01, 2019, 07:04:37 PM »
https://twitter.com/Ah_occ_o/status/1134563173971968000
She's so terrible at this. The Democratic primary debates are going to be hilarious for all the wrong reasons.
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« Reply #34090 on: June 01, 2019, 08:09:43 PM »
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1134958096537870336

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« Reply #34091 on: June 01, 2019, 08:21:07 PM »
"Thank you so much sir for your big idea"

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« Reply #34092 on: June 01, 2019, 09:48:22 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/should-these-platforms-exist-all-one-gop-senator-s-crusade-n1012191
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Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., has more than a little in common with Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., one of the body's most liberal members, when it comes to addressing the size and power of social media and tech giants.

But Hawley also posed a more existential question about advertising-based tech companies during a recent interview with NBC News: "Should these platforms exist at all?"

Like Warren, Hawley views the major companies as near monopolies and is open to the idea of using federal antitrust enforcement tools against them — but he told NBC News that Warren's plan to break up Facebook, Google and Amazon might not go far enough in addressing the threat he thinks they pose to society.

"We should have a discussion about the business model of the social media platforms as they have evolved as an ad-supported business model that is pushing addiction and rewarding addiction," Hawley said.

"If we broke Facebook up into 50 Facebooks who all pursued the same business model, would our lives, our economy, our society be measurably improved?" he continued. "I don't know that they would."

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Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube "hold themselves out to their users as being free, but they're not free and they're not free at all," Hawley said. "I mean they depend on collecting personal, private, confidential information from their users without consent, on monetizing it without permission and then trying to get their users, frankly, addicted to their platforms so they can assure a sufficient base of customers to sell their ads."

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He's also talked about the idea of changing the protections social media companies have under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, which prevents those companies from being held liable for any content a third-party user posts on their platforms.

Like many Republicans, Hawley has taken issue with Facebook and Twitter suspending or banning voices on the right over violations of their terms of service for things like hate speech and targeted harassment, zeroing in on Section 230 as a potential response. Many of these instances have prompted a backlash on the right, claiming that the platforms are anti-free speech and simply trying to stifle viewpoints they disagree with.

"I mean the answer is just pretty simple: Just don't do that," Hawley said. "You don't have to promote any particular side but don't engage in viewpoint discrimination, and if they're going to then they should be treated like a normal publisher."

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"Because let's face it, government is constantly influencing ... how the economy functions," he said. "We need to be influencing it in a way that we're actually rewarding work, we're creating opportunities for people in the middle of our society who, you know, they don't want to start a tech company, they would just like to work in the family business and they'd also like to be able to support their family doing that."
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34096 on: June 01, 2019, 10:40:21 PM »


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« Reply #34097 on: June 01, 2019, 10:42:17 PM »

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« Reply #34098 on: June 01, 2019, 10:45:00 PM »
He has a Twitter check, therefore he is at the highest level caste among humans.

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« Reply #34099 on: June 01, 2019, 10:48:32 PM »
which thebore.com poster is he  :doge
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« Reply #34100 on: June 01, 2019, 10:49:21 PM »

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« Reply #34101 on: June 01, 2019, 10:50:47 PM »
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« Reply #34102 on: June 01, 2019, 10:52:46 PM »
The McCain thing was real after all, it would seem:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/navy-acknowledges-request-was-made-hide-uss-john-s-mccain-n1012731?

But what about those tweets that Nintex posted on that last page???

https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1133918353490403329

LMAO
https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1133950652185530368

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The point is that the request was made, which is exactly as petty as you would expect this clown show administration to be. The Navy just didn't comply.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34104 on: June 02, 2019, 01:23:06 PM »
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1135190783064231936

Man, the Tea party is one of the biggest scams politicians ran on in this decade.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34106 on: June 02, 2019, 02:44:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1135241467184799746

Lol, the guy can't help himself.

Roger tommorow: "I'm so very sorry for my comments I promise to do better!"  :teehee

Why hasn't Trump pardoned Roger yet?
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« Reply #34107 on: June 02, 2019, 05:37:24 PM »
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The gunman who allegedly killed 12 people in a Virginia Beach municipal building Friday had resigned his position with the city hours before, according to the Virginian-Pilot.

The gunman, identified as DeWayne Craddock, had been a longtime public utilities engineer with the city and had emailed his superiors that day to give them his two weeks’ notice, according to city officials.

“We’re determining where that letter is,” City Manager Dave Hansen said at a Sunday news conference, according to the Pilot. “He notified his chain of command [Friday].”

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/446542-virginia-beach-gunman-had-resigned-hours-before-killing-12

12 people die in a shooting and it doesn't even dominate a daily news cycle.

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« Reply #34108 on: June 02, 2019, 05:44:28 PM »
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The gunman who allegedly killed 12 people in a Virginia Beach municipal building Friday had resigned his position with the city hours before, according to the Virginian-Pilot.

The gunman, identified as DeWayne Craddock, had been a longtime public utilities engineer with the city and had emailed his superiors that day to give them his two weeks’ notice, according to city officials.

“We’re determining where that letter is,” City Manager Dave Hansen said at a Sunday news conference, according to the Pilot. “He notified his chain of command [Friday].”

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/446542-virginia-beach-gunman-had-resigned-hours-before-killing-12

12 people die in a shooting and it doesn't even dominate a daily news cycle.
Yesterday I read that someone had set himself on fire on the white house lawn in protest and it wasn't even a blip on the radar.  :doge

It was more or less a sidenote in the Sun Trump interview.
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IT was one of those days in Trump’s Washington DC.That morning, special counsel Robert Mueller had suggested the President be impeached for obstructing justice.

Then, a few hours before our appointed 20-minute slot with him, a man set himself on fire and burned himself to death on a lawn 200 metres from the Oval Office.But by 5pm, there seemed to be only one thing on POTUS’s mind.“I have a question for you,” said Donald Trump, as he sat down behind the Oval Office’s famous Resolute desk, a gift from Queen Victoria.“Tell me, what is going on? Who’s it going to be?”, and our interview started with a few minutes’ gossip on who’d win the Tory leadership race.
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« Reply #34111 on: June 02, 2019, 09:59:18 PM »
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« Reply #34113 on: June 03, 2019, 12:19:55 AM »
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« Reply #34116 on: June 03, 2019, 04:03:39 AM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1135453891326238721

This is already the biggest disaster in diplomatic history and he hasn't left the plane yet
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34118 on: June 03, 2019, 11:09:42 AM »
Im really excited to vote in the primary tomorrow.

Lets see, going down the ballot, the races are...

-uncontested   
-uncontested   
-progressive option is a ghost   
-uncontested   


wheeeeeeee I love Democracy!
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« Reply #34119 on: June 03, 2019, 11:32:11 AM »
Not sure how you can spin Warren as someone who isn't putting forth tons of actual policies of real substance :thinking

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« Reply #34120 on: June 03, 2019, 12:00:13 PM »
No talk on Liz Warren and medicare for all? :doge


https://twitter.com/pagalpanchi/status/1135193155828105217

Well, like usual, she's the only one talking fucking sense.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34122 on: June 03, 2019, 01:55:34 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1135602449987899395

Hats off to all the staffers of both the UK and US delegation. You've kept NATO together for at least an additional 24 hours.   

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« Reply #34123 on: June 03, 2019, 02:30:53 PM »
Every Dem running would sign off on an incremental bill when it becomes clear they don't have the votes for single payer. I don't know that it's useful to pretend otherwise.

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Yes but saying it out loud now is basically negotiating yourself down. A president who gets elected running on single payer is in a stronger bargaining position.
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Taking a hard line on a health plan during campaign season with no fallback plan or consensus on actual priorities is how the GOP fucked themselves on ACA repeal.
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You can still signal which planks of your health plan are the "signature" non-negotiable parts without explicitly pre-conceding the rest!
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Maybe, but at this point it's just an argument about the tactics of campaign rhetoric rather than actual health care. Which is a comforting debate, cause it lets us pretend we can significantly change American politics if only we find the right electoral strategy, when in fact M4A is dead on arrival and we're all fucked.
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« Reply #34124 on: June 03, 2019, 02:40:25 PM »
Real talk: Fuck health care. Making people live longer will only make global climate change worse. Any candidate that makes health care a priority is useless in my book.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34125 on: June 03, 2019, 02:49:31 PM »
Real talk: Fuck health care. Making people live longer will only make global climate change worse. Any candidate that makes health care a priority is useless in my book.

Clearly I missed like 5 seasons worth of Green Shinobi development huh
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« Reply #34126 on: June 03, 2019, 02:56:16 PM »
Real talk: Fuck health care. Making people live longer will only make global climate change worse. Any candidate that makes health care a priority is useless in my book.

Clearly I missed like 5 seasons worth of Green Shinobi development huh

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« Reply #34127 on: June 03, 2019, 03:11:05 PM »
:bow when everyone agrees that democracy isnt able to action like, the only thing Americans support en masse :bow2

I don't think that's actually true (yes I am aware of the polling), but it would become true once it was the status quo.

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« Reply #34128 on: June 03, 2019, 03:16:39 PM »
Here is a fun series of articles:

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10-year yield continues collapse on slowing growth fears, hits session low under 2.07%
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/03/us-bonds-treasurys-tick-lower-as-investors-await-data-auctions.html

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The yield curve is no longer a reliable recession predictor, according to Wells Fargo Securities
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/yield-curve-is-no-longer-a-reliable-recession-predictor-wells-fargo.html


Previously, on the Yield Curve:

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ALAN GREENSPAN, the Federal Reserve chairman, raised more than a few eyebrows in November when he said in testimony before the Joint Economic Committee of Congress that there was no need to worry that the yield curve had flattened and was close to inverting. The yield curve, he said, has lost its ability to forecast recessions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/18/business/yourmoney/thrown-for-a-yield-curve.html

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Consider the inverted yield curve as the equivalent of an economic bogeyman. It’s when the natural order up-ends and short-term interest rates are higher than long-term ones.

The Treasury bond yield curve inverted December 27 for the first time in five years. That gave shudders to those who see the phenomenon as a harbinger of recession. And yet, the U.S. economy is strong, and surveys show most forecasters think it will stay that way.

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article/dont-sweat-the-inverted-yield-curve-no-one-really-knows-what-it-means/


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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Thanos/Hitler had some good ideas...
« Reply #34129 on: June 03, 2019, 03:17:50 PM »
:bow when everyone agrees that democracy isnt able to action like, the only thing Americans support en masse :bow2

Part of the problem is people are fucking stupid and Congress goes stupid in kind(most polls that show majority support for Medicare-for-All drop to below if you start asking questions about paying higher taxes or changing current Medicare, to me a sign of ignorance, ripe for manipulation once again).

I remember back to pre-ACA conversations. Where almost everyone was fed up with the current system and knew shit needed to seriously change.

Systemically rampant rescission, denials, lifetime maximums, 45 million uninsured, 45 million under-insured, pre-existing conditions, a million or two annually going bankrupt, 14%+ annual rate hikes in many states.

Never met a conservative in college or elsewhere that thought Switzerland was a bad idea when explained to them. Fast forward 3 months into the healthcare debate and 40% of the country is clutching about socialism and death panels. Another 25% only wanted healthcare reform that fits their magical thinking. Moderate Democrats run to the Republican position to get away from the bad faith fear-mongering of their opponent's, to which you get shitty incrementalism as the only viable prize...And there you have 100 years of American healthcare politics.
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« Reply #34131 on: June 03, 2019, 04:17:41 PM »


Historians: "Now tell me boy, why did the waiter accidently walk into this shot of our queen?"

Also not Eric Trump in the back because the Trump Organization is independent from the government.
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« Reply #34132 on: June 03, 2019, 04:19:03 PM »
M4A is never happening. Closest thing you could do is just keep expanding Medicaid, and increase hospital/doctor reimbursement in order to increase the # of providers who accept it. Imagine the money that would be saved by people (and businesses) if single people making 40k or lower (and whatever the family equivalents would be) qualified for comprehensive Medicaid plans.
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« Reply #34133 on: June 03, 2019, 04:26:44 PM »
Sheep: the best healthcare system, in efficiency, fairness, and outcomes, would really be a Medicare for all type of deal
Haters: everywhere: It'll never happen
Sheep: aw yeah sorry mate guess we'll just stfu
Geniuses: Death is natural and we should embrace it. Let's focus on real problems like climate change

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« Reply #34134 on: June 03, 2019, 04:52:13 PM »
Oh, so Buttigieg is a moron, too (I didn't care enough to bother looking into him).
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« Reply #34135 on: June 03, 2019, 04:57:04 PM »
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« Reply #34136 on: June 03, 2019, 05:09:09 PM »
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« Reply #34137 on: June 03, 2019, 05:13:46 PM »
I'm going to bridge the collective defeatism with a segue into making fun of Buttagieg with one tweet post :rejoice

https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/1135559277064536065

What even is an "apolitical judge" if you start introducing the notion others are "affiliated" and what does "affiliation" even means coming from a system where they're supposed to be independent and impartial ?

I read some of the details. Seems a very contrived way to fix something that doesn't need it (it's not the Supreme Court that is dysfunctional, it's the politics around nominations).
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« Reply #34138 on: June 03, 2019, 05:38:28 PM »
 :drudge :drudge :drudge :drudge


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A key witness in former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian election interference has been charged with transporting child pornography last year, according to court documents.

George Nader, who has a previous conviction on such charges, was charged in federal court in Virginia and is expected to make an initial court appearance in New York.

Nader played an unusual role as a kind of liaison between Trump supporters, Middle East leaders and Russians interested in making contact with the incoming administration in early 2017.

Officials said Nader, 60, was charged by criminal complaint over material he was traveling with when he arrived at Washington Dulles International Airport on Jan. 17, 2018, from Dubai. At the time, he was carrying a cellphone containing visual depictions of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct, officials said. The charges were unsealed after his arrest Monday morning at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York.

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He helped arrange a meeting in the Seychelles in January 2017 between Erik Prince, a Trump supporter who founded the private security firm Blackwater, and a Russian official close to Russian President Vladi­mir Putin. The purpose of the meeting was of particular interest to Mueller’s investigators, and some questions about it remain unanswered, even after Mueller issued a 448-page report on his findings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/figure-linked-to-trump-transition-charged-with-transporting-child-pornography/2019/06/03/caee8aca-862a-11e9-98c1-e945ae5db8fb_story.html?utm_term=.a69cbff7ef64



Nintex, this is your beat, give us extra details. Did Hillary plant the phone?
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