Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 7133001 times)

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46560 on:** January 14, 2020, 03:47:49 PM »

oh god, first starcraft, now magic

Nintex · « **Reply #46561 on:** January 14, 2020, 04:04:16 PM »

**LEAKED Ad concept**
*reel of Bernie Sanders shouting and shaking his fist*
Narrator: "Communist Bernie Sanders says he believes a woman cannot be President"
Voter (mid 20's/f): "I'm afraid that Bernie Sanders will take away all our women's rights as well as my healthcare and jesus"
Narrator: "President Trump believes anyone can be a President regardless of background, gender or weight especially if they are a woman"
*reel of Ivanka/Laura Trump/Nikki Haley/Conway/Sarah Sanders/Grisham/Melanie footage*
The President: "When I see a woman I just see beautiful, I don't even wait, I'm like that's who I'm backing"
Ivanka Trump: "My father always supported me"
Narrator: "In Donald's Trump America everyone can be a President even when they're not elected"
The President: "I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message"

Kara · « **Reply #46562 on:** January 14, 2020, 05:07:12 PM »

Pete must've pissed off some people at The Company.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46563 on:** January 14, 2020, 05:35:40 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-2020/index.html

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These 8 words spell big trouble for Bernie Sanders

"I thought a woman could win; he disagreed."

Quote

Which, wow. Those eight words are very problematic for Sanders -- particularly since they seem to run counter to his long-stated support of women running for all sorts of offices.

Quote

Here's the problem with all of those explanations: Warren said it did happen. It's right there in her statement; "I thought a woman could win; he disagreed."

Quote

The issue there is actually two issues:
1) Sanders is saying that Warren didn't hear what she said she heard
2) At the time of this meeting it was very clear that both Sanders and Warren were very likely to run for president. So, it's pretty hard to talk in purely hypothetical terms when that's the backdrop of the meeting.

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The question in my mind is whether Warren pushes Sanders for answers in tonight's CNN debate in Iowa. If Warren directly confronts Sanders on his campaign's contention that what she remembers about that conversation is not actually what happened, what will he say? And if he stands by the one-big-misunderstanding argument, will Warren let that be the last word? Or will she push for more?

An event of a lifetime, don't miss it!

I wonder who's hosting!

Nintex · « **Reply #46564 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:05:35 PM »

Given Bernie's age this is pretty much his last shot at being President.

If the DNC colludes with the MSM to nuke him, would he run as an independent in the general instead?
Knowing that he'd probably be more popular than the Joe/Warren

ticket.

Himu · « **Reply #46565 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:18:11 PM »

Is it possible to make for profit news illegal?

If the founding fathers didn't envision modern guns surely they didn't envision 24 hour news cycles that are for profit and done for clicks, "stories", controlling narratives, enciting propaganda.

Nintex · « **Reply #46566 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:20:15 PM »

The Note that will prevent from holding office

Nintex · « **Reply #46567 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:47:54 PM »

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1217170364587028480

Himu · « **Reply #46568 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:50:17 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on January 14, 2020, 06:47:54 PM

https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1217170364587028480

nachobro · « **Reply #46569 on:** January 14, 2020, 07:27:56 PM »

I NOTICE THAT THE (illegal and traitorous) PRESIDENT (not mine) DONALD J TRUMP (drumpf) DID NOT RETWEET

#RESIST

remy · « **Reply #46570 on:** January 14, 2020, 08:29:24 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on January 14, 2020, 06:18:11 PM

Is it possible to make for profit news illegal?

If the founding fathers didn't envision modern guns surely they didn't envision 24 hour news cycles that are for profit and done for clicks, "stories", controlling narratives, enciting propaganda.

I do wonder what a sane society could do about this shit but i feel like we're so beyond the pale at this point we're fucked

Tripon · « **Reply #46571 on:** January 14, 2020, 08:47:28 PM »

https://www.twitch.tv/themajorityreport

Debate is tonight, last one before Iowa caucus. Sam Seder and crew will play minecraft to celebrate.

Tripon · « **Reply #46572 on:** January 14, 2020, 08:54:16 PM »

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1217262816136175618

Flynn's going to see some serious jail time eventually.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #46573 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:05:38 PM »

https://twitter.com/WayneTrackerAG/status/1217257125962899456

This whole thing just keeps getting more and more insane.

Himu · « **Reply #46574 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:25:10 PM »

Steyer has said "i agree with _____" twice now using quotes that were attributed to someone else when it was actually Bernie who expressed it

Tripon · « **Reply #46575 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:35:36 PM »

CNN debaters suck ass tonight.

Tripon · « **Reply #46576 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:45:08 PM »

CNN asked the Bernie/Warren question.

Himu · « **Reply #46577 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:46:51 PM »

Tripon · « **Reply #46578 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:47:44 PM »

https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1217277043332845568

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46579 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:47:56 PM »

That was great attack by Warren.

Himu · « **Reply #46580 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:48:37 PM »

Warren and Bernie are still besties.

All is forgiven Liz.

And lmao at Warren's lip

Himu · « **Reply #46581 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:49:19 PM »

omfg

Kara · « **Reply #46582 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:49:32 PM »

Quote from: shosta on January 14, 2020, 09:44:27 PM

I think Buttigieg is the only candidate in American history to think a buzzcut is an appropriate haircut

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46583 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:49:56 PM »

Quick maths

TVC15 · « **Reply #46584 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:50:31 PM »

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on January 14, 2020, 05:35:40 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-2020/index.html

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These 8 words spell big trouble for Bernie Sanders

"I thought a woman could win; he disagreed."

Quote

Which, wow. Those eight words are very problematic for Sanders -- particularly since they seem to run counter to his long-stated support of women running for all sorts of offices.

Quote

Here's the problem with all of those explanations: Warren said it did happen. It's right there in her statement; "I thought a woman could win; he disagreed."

Quote

The issue there is actually two issues:
1) Sanders is saying that Warren didn't hear what she said she heard
2) At the time of this meeting it was very clear that both Sanders and Warren were very likely to run for president. So, it's pretty hard to talk in purely hypothetical terms when that's the backdrop of the meeting.

Quote

The question in my mind is whether Warren pushes Sanders for answers in tonight's CNN debate in Iowa. If Warren directly confronts Sanders on his campaign's contention that what she remembers about that conversation is not actually what happened, what will he say? And if he stands by the one-big-misunderstanding argument, will Warren let that be the last word? Or will she push for more?

An event of a lifetime, don't miss it!

I wonder who's hosting!

This was embarrassing even for CNN. This reads like a bad faith message board troll post.

Himu · « **Reply #46585 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:50:39 PM »

Quote from: 213372bu on January 14, 2020, 09:49:22 PM

Bernie is destroying Warren right now

I'm fucking dying dude

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #46586 on:** January 14, 2020, 09:56:22 PM »

i kinda miss kamala, she was way laxer at these glorified press conferences

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46587 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:06:00 PM »

Why are murdering America, joker?!

I mean mr Sanders.

kingv · « **Reply #46588 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:12:14 PM »

Quote from: 213372bu on January 14, 2020, 09:59:26 PM

"Sanders, how will you pay for Medicare For All?"
"4% after $12,000. The average family pays ~$1,200"
"Biden, do you think Sanders owes the American people a pricetag for his healthcare plan?"

What. The. Fuck.

Just did the math and that is about $3000 less per year than I currently pay for insurance + deductible. Household income is Over $150k/year, so that’s assuming it’s 4% on every penny over $12K, and doesn’t take into account normal tax deductions.

If we assume that is $12,000 per person in the household, it’s an even bigger savings.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46589 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:13:23 PM »

Quote from: kingv on January 14, 2020, 10:12:14 PM

Quote from: 213372bu on January 14, 2020, 09:59:26 PM
"Sanders, how will you pay for Medicare For All?"
"4% after $12,000. The average family pays ~$1,200"
"Biden, do you think Sanders owes the American people a pricetag for his healthcare plan?"

What. The. Fuck.

Just did the math and that is about $3000 less per year than I currently pay for insurance + deductible. Household income is Over $150k/year, so that’s assuming it’s 4% on every penny over $12K, and doesn’t take into account normal tax deductions.

If we assume that is $12,000 per person in the household, it’s an even bigger savings.

But Amy just said it's fantasy.

Tripon · « **Reply #46590 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:20:34 PM »

Wow, Pete ani't saying shit tonight.

Himu · « **Reply #46591 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:26:32 PM »

Pete

Klobuchar

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46592 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:26:33 PM »

Warren slaying buttigied and Biden.

Himu · « **Reply #46593 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:28:06 PM »

Klobuchar always talking over time

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #46594 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:31:10 PM »

something strikes me as really specious about the moral crux to the free college debate being whether rich kids deserve to get in free too. like...maybe? probably? who fucking cares?

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46595 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:32:37 PM »

It's ridiculous.

And dumb

And vindictive.

EightBitNate · « **Reply #46596 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:34:33 PM »

Talk times so far:

Sanders
14:25

Warren
14:00

Klobuchar
12:13

Biden
11:26

Buttigieg
11:26

Steyer
7:42

Klobuchar makes me so irrationally angry

Tripon · « **Reply #46597 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:42:38 PM »

This crowd does not give a fuck about Steyer.

TVC15 · « **Reply #46598 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:46:08 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on January 14, 2020, 10:42:38 PM

This crowd does not give a fuck about Steyer.

I do. Are there any shirtless pics? He might look good in a bondage harness.

Trurl · « **Reply #46599 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:46:45 PM »

Come on this is serious.

eleuin · « **Reply #46600 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:47:00 PM »

incredible stuff

Himu · « **Reply #46601 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:48:17 PM »

Biden is fucking up tonight.

Giggity.

TVC15 · « **Reply #46602 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:50:45 PM »

Lol making Pete talk about all of his black friends is almost kind of mean. Almost.

james · « **Reply #46603 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:53:04 PM »

Quote from: kingv on January 14, 2020, 10:12:14 PM

Quote from: 213372bu on January 14, 2020, 09:59:26 PM
"Sanders, how will you pay for Medicare For All?"
"4% after $12,000. The average family pays ~$1,200"
"Biden, do you think Sanders owes the American people a pricetag for his healthcare plan?"

What. The. Fuck.

Just did the math and that is about $3000 less per year than I currently pay for insurance + deductible. Household income is Over $150k/year, so that’s assuming it’s 4% on every penny over $12K, and doesn’t take into account normal tax deductions.

If we assume that is $12,000 per person in the household, it’s an even bigger savings.

Lol wtf is a deductible join a union chump

Himu · « **Reply #46604 on:** January 14, 2020, 10:58:44 PM »

Lmao at Pete going the religious route while being openly gay

Big cojones on his part. Most Christian's find the two incompatible. Interesting choice.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #46605 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:01:17 PM »

Quote from: shosta on January 14, 2020, 10:44:53 PM

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on January 14, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
something strikes me as really specious about the moral crux to the free college debate being whether rich kids deserve to get in free too. like...maybe? probably? who fucking cares?
I think this misidentifies the central character of the argument. It's about maximizing the utility of policy per dollar spent (and thus dollar taxed) - the morality is secondary. This is the brutal logic underpinning all neoliberalism.

mmm, yeah youre right. ill amend what i said to: there’s a non-trivial amount of resentment towards the rich latent in this argument thats actually doing the work of convincing the viewer

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #46606 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:03:50 PM »

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on January 14, 2020, 10:31:10 PM

something strikes me as really specious about the moral crux to the free college debate being whether rich kids deserve to get in free too. like...maybe? probably? who fucking cares?

Rich people paying for everyone's college includes everyone, which includes their own kids. Just as everyone gets to drive on the roads.
Doubling down on somehow rich kids getting free college out of this is a dishonest tool intended solely to poison the entire idea rather than any argument with good intent.

Tripon · « **Reply #46607 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:08:02 PM »

The argument is always "I resent rich people enough to say I don't want to pay their college, but not enough to tax them more."

At least Republicans treat taxes like the fuck you from the Government like it is some times.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46608 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:08:37 PM »

Did a memo come out to use black and brown instead of POC since yang isn't on stage anymore?

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #46609 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:12:11 PM »

Quote from: shosta on January 14, 2020, 11:04:14 PM

which is why it's so disgusting that this argument always comes from people trying to carry water for the rich

its so weird! its like theyre doing our class-war framing for us

spoiler (click to show/hide)

or: its so sinister. theyre anticipating and neutralizing it before we get a chance to use it

[close]

TVC15 · « **Reply #46610 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:13:41 PM »

This was the first debate I’ve watched this season. Is it me or is Pete like a lot creepier than he was towards the beginning of the campaign?

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #46611 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:23:03 PM »

https://twitter.com/sluggahjells/status/1217298629154803713

Tripon · « **Reply #46612 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:24:20 PM »

Quote from: shosta on January 14, 2020, 11:16:41 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 14, 2020, 11:13:41 PM
This was the first debate I’ve watched this season. Is it me or is Pete like a lot creepier than he was towards the beginning of the campaign?
https://twitter.com/postXamerica/status/1207855257037893632

https://twitter.com/alohacatss/status/1217301204524363776

TVC15 · « **Reply #46613 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:32:06 PM »

Anyway, I don’t think I like any of these candidates anymore. Who are the third-party candidates?

james · « **Reply #46614 on:** January 14, 2020, 11:46:18 PM »

Only imbeciles watch CNN

kingv · « **Reply #46615 on:** January 15, 2020, 12:16:41 AM »

Quote from: OnlyRegret on January 14, 2020, 11:03:50 PM

Quote from: jakefromstatefarm on January 14, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
something strikes me as really specious about the moral crux to the free college debate being whether rich kids deserve to get in free too. like...maybe? probably? who fucking cares?

Rich people paying for everyone's college includes everyone, which includes their own kids. Just as everyone gets to drive on the roads.
Doubling down on somehow rich kids getting free college out of this is a dishonest tool intended solely to poison the entire idea rather than any argument with good intent.

The idea that we have a societal expectation that parents will pay for their kids college is fucking backwards in general. Like, they’re fucking adults?

kingv · « **Reply #46616 on:** January 15, 2020, 12:17:43 AM »

Quote from: shosta on January 14, 2020, 11:24:47 PM

What's Bloomberg doing?

https://twitter.com/Mike2020/status/1217254115132235776

...never mind.

Did he hire Gravels campaign team?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #46617 on:** January 15, 2020, 12:20:07 AM »

This debate made me want to kill myself

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #46618 on:** January 15, 2020, 12:26:57 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/14/politics/who-won-the-debate/index.html

Winner: Pete Buttigieg
Loser: Bernie Sanders

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #46619 on:** January 15, 2020, 12:29:40 AM »

Jesus fucking Christ

News:

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