Final Fantasy XV Official Thread of HD Towns and Bromantic Adventures

[mormapope]

I expect reviews to be all over the place. The voice acting, writing, characterization, and story itself are all sloppy as fuck when it comes to execution. The open world areas seem pretty barren and straight forward. The main scenario and side content is gonna make or break the entire game.

I've grown to hate the modern/fantasy setting shown thus far. An open world Final Fantasy game set in a classic fantasy setting with Dragon's Dogma combat would be astounding, a return to form.

FFXV has weird European styled cities and then really simple ecosystem open world bits. Honestly reminds me of Sonic 06 in cohesion. Combat feels really floaty and slow, its like if you combined GTA IV's hand to hand combat animations with Kingdom Hearts. 

[Bebpo]

Expecting worse than FFXIII

[Cerveza mas fina]

FF13 was the worst I've played, quit two hours in maybe

The FF15 demo was shite shite shite

I'm still salty over not being able to beat Sin

Still got this pre-ordered

[Trent Dole]

It's a latter day FF, so it'll be hot garbage.

[mormapope]

Expecting worse than FFXIII

I would guarantee this on metacritic score alone/review scores. FFXIII is sitting at 83, which is usually the average of great games nowadays. I'm expecting 80 or mid 70's for FFXV.

With the games themselves, FFXV doesn't look or sound like its advanced a generation from FFXIII. Awkward english voice acting, stilted and uninteresting writing, really unnatural animation in cutscenes, doesn't look that great when it comes to lighting or visuals really.

[archnemesis]

My expectations are really low after having played a demo. I might even skip it at launch.

[Yulwei]

From what I played the combat still feels sluggish, shallow and repetitive. I also really hate the party roster.

Hard pass on this game for me.

[Trent Dole]

[Positive Touch]

burying my head in the sand and expecting nothing but weebmajesty from this one idc idc

[Positive Touch]

omg i care so much

[bork]

I expect it to be garbage, but all the Squeenix fanboys will still buy it and spend hundreds of hours playing it, all while decreeing it sucks. 

[bork]

It says a lot when so many of the jokes end up being about how boring and pointless it all seems. 

[Cerveza mas fina]

I never watch or read reviews of games I buy nowadays, but I watched that Clueless Gamer and thinking and dont know if Im up for this

[demi]

Got my Limited Edition pre-ordered, ready to enjoy some real gaming after all this mundane shooting

[Great Rumbler]

Will pick up for $5 on Steam.

[Rahxephon91]

The Judgement Demo was great fun and I'm expecting a pretty great game.

[Positive Touch]

everyone acting like ff sucks now is ignoring the fact that 14 is one of the best in the series and keeps getting better with every release, and they turned that around from its original release, which was a shitshow

[demi]

Gonna be playing Final Fantasy XV on the Xbox One, just as God intended

[tiesto]

I wish I had the time to get sucked into an MMO, because FF14 sounds like it would appeal. (though if DQX ever got released, that would be the game to pop my MMO cherry). And as far as spinoffs go, Theatrhythm Curtain Call is really great (even if its art style sucks), I heard the mobile games are pretty fun if you're into that F2P gatcha (I'm not), and World of FF has gotten lots of positive press. So yeah I agree with Positive that the FF series isn't in the shitshow state everyone makes it out to be...

Still, I expect FFXV to be a mess of underdeveloped gameplay systems, an incoherent storyline that had large chunks of it lobotomized, tons of technical issues (framerate drops, stuttering, glitches, even the occasional crash), large empty areas filled with generic "kill 10 boars" quests, a typical Shimomura soundtrack with lots of violins and harps (I like her 16-bit era stuff a lot but after that I can't get into), and the occasional badass setpiece battles. Will be worse than FFXIII because at least that game was polished to a glossy sheen and the soundtrack was fucking amazing. Will be better than Lightning Returns because putting a hard time limit in a nonlinear open world game (that was built on an engine made to handle linear corridors, not large nonlinear open worlds) is one of the dumbest ideas ever.

Still, plenty of people will hail it GOTY.

[Beezy]

My best friend was hyped to get it at launch until we watched that Clueless Gamer vid last night.

[Mr. Nobody]

I'll play it and judge accordingly.

Neogaf hype train 

Bore's overt pessimism 

[Cerveza mas fina]

it really cant be worse then 13

[Positive Touch]

the game could make you sterile and empty your bank account and it would still be a better experience than ff13

[Tasty]

Made the MGSV comparison a couple months ago, still seems apt.

[SantaC]

Gonna be playing Final Fantasy XV on the Xbox One, just as God intended

FFXV is coming for xbox? 

[demi]

Um, yea? You live under a rock?

[SantaC]

Um, yea? You live under a rock?

have a 5 year old to take care of, only freetime in the evenings. But  atleast xbox will have one jrpg in their catalog.

[Joe Molotov]

something something honor and shame

[SantaC]

10 year dev cycle is never a good sign and review media will probably trash it. Hopefully FFXVI wont suffer the same fate.

[demi]

Um, yea? You live under a rock?

have a 5 year old to take care of, only freetime in the evenings. But  atleast xbox will have one jrpg in their catalog.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/stranger-of-sword-city/c2v6blwq5hl4

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/final-fantasy-type-0-hd/c1f1hjk2njpj

[Let's Cyber]

I want it to be good.

I just don't think it will be.

[Mr. Nobody]

13 (the first one, anyway) wasn't that bad

Get mad about it 

[Yulwei]

I liked 13 more than most old FFs 

[Freyj]

I was mildly excited for it until I played Platinum Demo, not ever having played Duscae.

I'll still buy it, but that demo pretty much killed any enthusiasm I had for the game. Not sure how you make an ARPG that un-fun to control.

[a slime appears]

Based on initial reports sounds like the first half will generally be well regarded followed by a second half where the game falls apart.

[Yeti]

Does it really take three real world days to fight that worm? 

[mormapope]

Made the MGSV comparison a couple months ago, still seems apt.

MGSV has great gameplay though.

That FFXV demo was

MGS V's first 50 hours 


MGS's V next 50 hours
 

[Let's Cyber]

Dropping MGSV after mission 31

 

[Himu]

I'm looking forward to it. Deluxe pre ordered.

[Rahxephon91]

Based on initial reports sounds like the first half will generally be well regarded followed by a second half where the game falls apart.

I don't quite understand where this came from. All the Edge preview thing really said was that it was more linear. Does that mean FFXII or FFXIII linear? Yes, they mentioned a part where it feels like a Resident Evil game. But that sounded like a simple set piece  and it's not like other FFs haven't had genre shifts for small parts of the game.

[Tasty]

Made the MGSV comparison a couple months ago, still seems apt.

MGSV has great gameplay though.

That FFXV demo was

Which one?

[SantaC]

Does it really take three real world days to fight that worm? 

So it is FF12 all over again?

[Tasty]

I heard Duscae was a lot better (but a lot rougher.)

I dunno, the game looks pretty polished and fun to me. But I don't play most JRPGs lol.

[Rahxephon91]

The Judgement Demo is really polished. Whatever at this point I don't agree or care about the cynicism against this game. I've already realized my taste doesn't fall in line with most people.

People think the characters look awful. I think these are the most restrained Nomura characters. There is a lack of style to them that was in Versus, but they still far less up there own ass than previous FF games.

They also all sound fun and I feel the friendly bro-manship. Which I rather see then today's games idea that overly grittyness/badassness or Avenger's Inspired wittyness is what makes cool characters. Yes honestly the voice acting is'nt top tier, it's not even FFXII tier. But I don't understand the shit throwing of it being terrible or beyond what most of the industry puts out.

I'm also not too worried about the change in the 2nd half. Again people seem worried because of that Edge preview which described clearly a small section of the game. It's like getting worried about FFVII because someone described how it had a mortorcycle sequence. Still, I lose interests in open world games so the game becoming more focused sounds pretty good.

The game looks rough, but it also looks like something different and not overly stuffy. People keep saying the game is up it's own ass? How? It seems to have a sense a humor, doesn't seem at all to take itself very seriously, and in general is trying to be an apologetic course correction. If anything it was Versus that took itself seriously, with it;s brooding darkness infused CG videos. Which yes looked cool to me as well. Look I like this type of shit and I need not apologize for it. 15 looks to have lost some of that "coolness", but instead seems to have gained a more down to earth feel which I think is welcome. I understand that the characters look out of their element. Though again I like their designs. Hey, I like stylish looking outfits. Though they do look like a remnant from when the whole game had a different tone and atmosphere.

Yet, I am not exactly thrilled about the combat. It still feels floaty and a bit too chaotic. Yet honestly, I don't think anything outside of YS has good action combat, but that's also because they feel more like action games then action rpgs. Still, the combat feels better then say the Witcher and certainly better than anything Bioware or Bethesda has put out.

Either way, it looks like a game I need to play.

[tiesto]

Does it really take three real world days to fight that worm? 

So it is FF12 all over again?

At least with FF12 you can set up gambits to auto-play the game for you while you go smack around the other worm for 72 hours straight...

[Himu]

i'm not worried about the structure. the idea that you shouldn't be able to have linear sections in a final fantasy is absurd considering the most well regarded section in a final fantasy ever (Midgar in FF7) is practically on rails. The reason people are worried is due to FF13 but FF13 was an anomaly in the franchise. I've really liked from what I've seen from the latest batch of previews and it's my most anticipated game of the year.

[SantaC]

i'm not worried about the structure. the idea that you shouldn't be able to have linear sections in a final fantasy is absurd considering the most well regarded section in a final fantasy ever (Midgar in FF7) is practically on rails. The reason people are worried is due to FF13 but FF13 was an anomaly in the franchise. I've really liked from what I've seen from the latest batch of previews and it's my most anticipated game of the year.

I really miss the zoomed out world map from the old games though. It made stuff feel less linear then they were.
 

[Himu]

i don't disagree. we know too little of xv's second half to really say it doesn't have a world map though.

[nachobro]

I'm conflicted on this game. Kinda want to get it on X1 but I feel like it's probably gonna be a turd. Might just wait for the eventual PC version. Hoping it's closer to an MGSV situation though, I really had a blast with that game.

[SantaC]

I wish it was turn-based again.

[Positive Touch]

world of ff is turn based and also very fun from what i played

[Himu]

I wish it was turn-based again.

use wait mode

[mormapope]

The game looks rough, but it also looks like something different and not overly stuffy. People keep saying the game is up it's own ass? How? It seems to have a sense a humor, doesn't seem at all to take itself very seriously, and in general is trying to be an apologetic course correction. If anything it was Versus that took itself seriously, with it;s brooding darkness infused CG videos. Which yes looked cool to me as well. Look I like this type of shit and I need not apologize for it. 15 looks to have lost some of that "coolness", but instead seems to have gained a more down to earth feel which I think is welcome. I understand that the characters look out of their element. Though again I like their designs. Hey, I like stylish looking outfits. Though they do look like a remnant from when the whole game had a different tone and atmosphere.

"Up it's own ass" for videogames can mean a lot of things, one of them being not respecting the player's time and/or intelligence. FFXV won't respect either of those, at all.

[Rahxephon91]

The game looks rough, but it also looks like something different and not overly stuffy. People keep saying the game is up it's own ass? How? It seems to have a sense a humor, doesn't seem at all to take itself very seriously, and in general is trying to be an apologetic course correction. If anything it was Versus that took itself seriously, with it;s brooding darkness infused CG videos. Which yes looked cool to me as well. Look I like this type of shit and I need not apologize for it. 15 looks to have lost some of that "coolness", but instead seems to have gained a more down to earth feel which I think is welcome. I understand that the characters look out of their element. Though again I like their designs. Hey, I like stylish looking outfits. Though they do look like a remnant from when the whole game had a different tone and atmosphere.

"Up it's own ass" for videogames can mean a lot of things, one of them being not respecting the player's time and/or intelligence. FFXV won't respect either of those, at all.

So uh how is that different from any other video game?


And you know this how?

[mormapope]

So uh how is that different from any other video game?


And you know this how?

Some games recently have actually respected the player's time and intelligence. The newest Hitman had a very quick tutorial and all story stuff can be skipped instantly, along with having a fantastic default difficulty with a good selection of options and assists to turn off or on. For FFXV, I expect a lot of forced tutorial shit, with a lot of forced Gears of War talky talky in game story shit.

Witcher 3 has writing that is incredibly clever and masks the videogameness of RPGs. Very simple "go here to kill this" quests have writing that will surpass main story beats from FFXV. The Witcher 3 earned the ability to ask for the player's attention.

FFXV demands your attention because its a big budget Japanese RPG, and its made from Square Enix. You will sit through these dogshit cutscenes and in game story bits because why wouldn't you? That type of attitude is something being up its own ass.

Doom 2016 is the perfect example of embracing the mood and spirit of the franchise, without resorting to really cheesy and out of place self referential humor. Doom of all games will have a more nuanced and thoughtful storyline than FFXV.

I can go on and on. My main point is, FFXV will demand your time, but what it does with it won't nearly as great as it could've been.

[bluemax]

I have a feeling that this game, like a great many big budget Japanese games these days, will feel EXTREMELY date in most aspects to similar games that have come out before it.

I also have the same feeling about The Last Guardian.

The amount that Japan fell behind in terms of software/game development when we jumped from PS2 to PS3 etc is pretty crazy.

[Rahxephon91]

The newest Hitman had a very quick tutorial and all story stuff can be For FFXV, I expect a lot of forced tutorial shit, with a lot of forced Gears of War talky talky in game story shit.

Wow an RPG with plenty of systems is going to have forced tutorials. Wow, what a terrible thing it is to know how to play the game, but unlike most it seems like XV does it all at the beginning and then sets you free.

Witcher 3 has writing that is incredibly clever and masks the videogameness of RPGs. Very simple "go here to kill this" quests have writing that will surpass main story beats from FFXV. The Witcher 3 earned the ability to ask for the player's attention.

The Witcher 3 also has trash combat and plays like jank. I'm happy it's story is good, because without that it would have nothing. Which is pretty much not anything you would say about any FF game. Even XIII gets praise for it's combat.

FFXV demands your attention because its a big budget Japanese RPG, and its made from Square Enix. You will sit through these dogshit cutscenes and in game story bits because why wouldn't you? That type of attitude is something being up its own ass.

No I will sit through FFXV because it will like almost all other FFS have interesting subsystems and take you to imaginative places where you fight cool looking monsters and have big budget set pieces. I'm not sure how the cutscenes are anymore dogshit then the generic and try hard lore of a Bethesda game puts out or the look aren't we socially relevant crap Bioware puts out. But at least it probably won't take itself as series as those two companies do and will just be find with simple fun with lame attempts at emotional tugs.

Doom 2016 is the perfect example of embracing the mood and spirit of the franchise, without resorting to really cheesy and out of place self referential humor. Doom of all games will have a more nuanced and thoughtful storyline than FFXV.

You mean the same Doom that gets story heavy once it gets too Mars and introduces some some "hell knight" story bullshit. Please, Doom starts off being self aware and then falls into the same trap of introducing a dumb story no one cares about. If thats not up it's own ass then I don't know what is.

I can go on and on. My main point is, FFXV will demand your time, but what it does with it won't nearly as great as it could've been.

A lot of assumption here, but whatever. Go in with the mindset that you already dislike the game and waste your $60.

[mormapope]

 

And yeah, the storytelling in Bethesda and Bioware games is generally shit, didn't say otherwise. Glad to know we're on the same page of FFXV matching that mediocrity or being worse.

You're being delusional if you think FFXV doesn't take itself super duper seriously. They released a fucking movie that shows banal story shit that takes place before the game. But FFXV definitely doesn't take itself seriously 

The "but it will have great combat and that's what matters!" mentality sucks a lot of ass because there's other genres of games where combat mechanics are much better. Why play FFXV just for the combat when I can do that with Bayonetta or Devil May Cry? RPGs need a great world, story, storytelling, characters, or writing to justify their existence. The Witcher 3 fulfills all those needs, while having fun but simple combat at best and simply serviceable combat at worst.

The english voice acting and writing in FFXV has already shown to be some dated and okay at best shit. Characters look like weird and completely unrelatable people, even by Final Fantasy standards. World building seems to be shit as well. We're going into FFXV with all of these elements looking like shit, I'm sure excited to be stuck with all this shit while fighting cool looking monsters!!!

If I'm proven wrong, I'll happily admit it. But the mindset that people are being over pessimistic is some bullshit. Games looking really iffy before they launch is considered endearing now I guess.

 

[Himu]

ff has been up its own ass since ff6, who cares. as long as it's not up its ass like ff13 it's fine.

as far as i've seen, ffxv actually looks pretty self aware for what it is. i'm not sure why kingsglaive = taking itself seriously. The game has an expansive universe. That's like calling Sesame Street up its own ass because they made Fraggle Rock. The Brotherhood anime is really good and I don't see why giving the games characters a little more extra is a bad thing, especially after ff12 and 13 as much as i love 12.

[Himu]

The english voice acting and writing in FFXV has already shown to be some dated and okay at best shit. Characters look like weird and completely unrelatable people, even by Final Fantasy standards.

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I relate to Prompto more than any FF character because I used to be obese, started working out and got in shape. Had to change my personality as well because I was shy around people. FFXV looks to have the most relatable cast in the series to me.