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Bebpo

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« Reply #240 on: June 09, 2019, 10:28:12 PM »
Yeah, I've heard multiple people say that about quest.

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« Reply #241 on: June 09, 2019, 10:44:01 PM »
it's true. first hour it didn't seem an issue at all. but it builds up. for me, it's less any neck soreness and that it feels quite heavy on my face, digging into my cheekbones and forehead after a while. the fabric used for the padding starts to rub p bad too. ordered some leather lined replacement pads and easily swappable cotton covers for the pads. when you're sharing this thing around the foam pad can suck up a lotta sweat  :-X :gaben

apparently the ultra comfort vrcover pad eases the face stress a fair bit more evenly distributing the weight and stops the light leakage in the nose bridge part. john carmack said he hates the light leakage thing, but is starting to see it as a feature not a bug - people like it so they can "peek" down to see things rather than taking off the headset. i'd rather no light leakage in most things though.
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« Reply #242 on: June 14, 2019, 12:57:57 AM »
I picked up the new Imagine Dragons pack for Beat Saber. At first I was kinda annoyed that one of the 3 Beat Saber DLC packs was being wasted entirely on one band that I don't listen to, but I went through 7 of the 10 tracks on expert and most are pretty fun to play.

Also difficulty is allllll over the place. I almost full combo'd the first song Bad Liar on my first attempt (missed 2) and it was a fun pattern. The next song was fine too. Then you get to the song Digital and it's like Expert+ arm switching every note and it's gonna take me a while in practice mode to nail this down. Hopefully after practicing a while the patterns will make sense like Overkill in the first DLC pack which is the best and most fun song to play once you get it down.

Still, with only 10 songs like in Beat Saber (at least announced so far. I'm guessing after it they'll focus on a Beat Saber 2 that's backwards compatible with the BS1 songs like Rock Band), I kinda hope the next 10 are a mix of 10 licensed songs from 10 different artists. Would rather have a mix of stuff for now and then band packs later on.

But yeah, some of these layouts are really well designed. It's why I'm ok without mod songs, since the quality of the patterns by the main team is very, very good and keeps getting harder and teaching you how to get better. At some point I'll be ready for expert+ at the rate these tracks are getting harder.

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« Reply #243 on: June 14, 2019, 10:05:21 AM »
Just picked up (triple dipped) Skyrim VR on PSN sale.  So stoked to try it!  :hyper  Now I just need to find time with trying to finish Dark Soul 3 and Bloodstained coming next week.  :dead 
« Last Edit: June 14, 2019, 12:28:45 PM by Svejk »

Bebpo

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« Reply #244 on: June 15, 2019, 01:21:18 AM »
Yeah, finished up the Imagine Dragons pack for Beat Saber and most of it is fun and solid with some good dance patterns but Warriors & Digital on expert are straight up expert+ patterns on expert speed. Warriors is like expert+ mild and Digital is like full on expert+ ridiculousness. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to get A ranks on these...but will see over time.

Definitely not as strong as the first DLC pack of Monstercats songs, but a solid entry.

Svejk

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« Reply #245 on: June 17, 2019, 07:01:21 PM »
Tried Skyrim the other night.  It's Skyrim in VR alright. lol  Those motions controls though...  A bit of a learning curve for them.  It feels good and smooth, but I'm not as accustomed to the Move buttons as the DS4.  It may take me a bit to really get the hang of it.  But I got to say.. this game is meant for VR.  Props to Bethesda for porting it.  I never played the Dargonborn DLC back then, so I look forward to finally playing it.

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« Reply #246 on: July 13, 2019, 04:18:44 PM »
Oh shit.. Sairento came out in July 10th! (PSVR) I last read it would be the 27th somewhere. Anywho, I will need to get it. I'm reading it's pretty good. Tons of unlockable moves and even has 2p co-op.   Hearing that it's almost like Devil May Cry VR.  :phil

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« Reply #247 on: July 14, 2019, 01:36:47 PM »
Been out of the PSVR loop for a while. Is Sairento actually good? The PSVR Reddit is filled with such idiocy I can't trust anything anyone there says.

Svejk

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« Reply #248 on: July 14, 2019, 06:20:45 PM »
I got it, but haven't had a chance to try it yet.  My PSVR backlog is steadily increasing.  I still need to play Skyrim VR, RE7 dlc, Moss extra stuff, amongst other things I've picked up. Damn me and my long RPGs and the little time I have to play them.

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« Reply #249 on: July 14, 2019, 06:27:43 PM »

Svejk

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« Reply #250 on: July 25, 2019, 08:13:02 AM »
I never realized, but there's a demo for Blood & Truth on PSN.  Gonna try it... eventually.

Svejk

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« Reply #251 on: August 09, 2019, 03:11:07 PM »
Tried the Blood & Truth demo the other day.  Gotta say, it was pretty damn fun.  The quality of the aiming, especially through a site one eyed, was pretty sweet.  The environments were much more interactive than I expected; from setting bombs, lock picking and climbing ladders.  If only I didn't have so much of a backlog right now...  :-\

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« Reply #252 on: August 09, 2019, 04:45:47 PM »
Iím thinking about grabbing a quest.... people still mostly like theirs?

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« Reply #253 on: August 09, 2019, 07:08:34 PM »
Taking a break from VR lately due to Beat Saber getting way too hard and stress inducing instead of relieving. They added 3 songs recently to the "Extras" category that are BEMANI style 1000bpm DJ stuff and trying to do those expert is straight out impossible. Even on hard I'm only getting B ranks on two of them. Between a couple of the Imagine Dragons song being really hard one expert and these three I'm definitely concerned that they're going to make expert difficulty out of my skill range, which sucks since hard is zzz when you're used to expert.

Tried the Blood & Truth demo the other day.  Gotta say, it was pretty damn fun.  The quality of the aiming, especially through a site one eyed, was pretty sweet.  The environments were much more interactive than I expected; from setting bombs, lock picking and climbing ladders.  If only I didn't have so much of a backlog right now...  :-\

Yeah, I've played a couple levels and it's dumb fun. I don't think I'd like it half as much if everyone wasn't talking like Jason Statham, but at some point I'll get through a play.

Iím thinking about grabbing a quest.... people still mostly like theirs?

I think so. Biggest concern I still hear is it's kinda heavy compared to PSVR.

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« Reply #254 on: August 09, 2019, 07:25:18 PM »
Yeah, Iíve played some pretty cool stuff on my friends ps r, I just donít have a place where it would be convenient to set it up.

I played the ace combat stuff at a friends and it was trippy as hell.


The spider man far from home was cool too, but they should have an extreme mode that goes harder on the web swinging stuff. It felt way too slow.

Iím lucky though, Iíve never felt any nausea when playing... at least so far.

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« Reply #255 on: August 22, 2019, 12:23:45 PM »


I fucking died three times over :dead :dead :dead

Bebpo

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« Reply #256 on: August 30, 2019, 03:00:03 AM »
So Beat Saber on PSVR added 6 free tracks today as OST Vol.3

Thankfully after the fucking bemani 3 tracks shit they added into Extras last patch, these are actually easy tracks. Heck they're easier than the Imagine Dragons and Monstercat packs and more similar to the original tracks. I A ranked all of them on expert first run with an S rank on one even. Which also made me wonder if the latest patch adjusted the scoring/detection on PSVR because I felt like I was getting higher scores for my slashes than I typically do but I'll have to test this when I'm running older songs to see if I get S ranks now.

Anyone else still playing Beat Saber regularly? I feel like when a good music game comes out like Guitar Hero/Rock Band/Bemani/Project Diva that I keep playing them for years as long as they keep adding content.






(ok this last one is expert+, still)

These 3 songs in the last patch were fucking lollllllllllllllll

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« Reply #257 on: September 11, 2019, 12:34:54 AM »
im real keen to get back into beat saber, but my quest has been in the closet for quite a while.

not for lack of things to play. i just haven't made time. keep checking in to see if there's any word on The Climb arriving sometime in the future, but there's never any word (last was early June).
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« Reply #258 on: September 11, 2019, 06:38:33 AM »
If only Beat Saber had a feature where you could import your own tunes...  :lawd

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« Reply #259 on: September 11, 2019, 11:13:16 PM »
So Beat Saber on PSVR added 6 free tracks today as OST Vol.3

Thankfully after the fucking bemani 3 tracks shit they added into Extras last patch, these are actually easy tracks. Heck they're easier than the Imagine Dragons and Monstercat packs and more similar to the original tracks. I A ranked all of them on expert first run with an S rank on one even. Which also made me wonder if the latest patch adjusted the scoring/detection on PSVR because I felt like I was getting higher scores for my slashes than I typically do but I'll have to test this when I'm running older songs to see if I get S ranks now.

Anyone else still playing Beat Saber regularly? I feel like when a good music game comes out like Guitar Hero/Rock Band/Bemani/Project Diva that I keep playing them for years as long as they keep adding content.






(ok this last one is expert+, still)

These 3 songs in the last patch were fucking lollllllllllllllll

How do the vtubers get those full-body captures and map them to avatars? That must be quite a setup...

Bebpo

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« Reply #260 on: September 12, 2019, 12:39:00 AM »
No idea, but yeah itís pretty cool!

Svejk

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« Reply #261 on: September 12, 2019, 01:15:40 PM »
Apparently Borderlands 2 VR got a huge update....  I may reconsider it now....

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BAMF DLC Added to Borderlands 2 VR for Free

Hello Vault Hunters!

We have one more update for you and this is a big one! We saved the best for last! As promised at PAX East, our Big Summer DLC Update is here! Today we are releasing version 1.0.3 of Borderlands 2 VR which includes some major improvements to the game. Along with performance optimizations and gameplay bug fixes, we've included the ability to download all the previous Borderlands 2 DLC. This DLC pack is so big that it deserved its own name. We call it the BAMF DLC PACK and is available for the magical price of ZERO dollars! That's right, the BAMF DLC PACK is FREE! So, make sure you clear some space on your PS4 and start playing this now! This pack includes:

    Captain Scarlett and Her Pirate's Booty

    Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage

    Sir Hammerlock's Big Game Hunt

    Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep

    T.K. Baha's Bloody Harvest

    The Horrible Hunger of the Ravenous Wattle Gobbler

    How Marcus Saved Mercenary Day

    Mad Moxxi and the Wedding Day Massacre

    Sir Hammerlock vs. the Son of Crawmerax

    Mechromancer Pack - Gaige - NEW PLAYABLE CHARACTER with adapted BAMF skills

    Psycho Pack - Krieg - NEW PLAYABLE CHARACTER with adapted BAMF skills

    Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack

    Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 2: Digistruct Peak Challenge

    Many new skins, heads, new vehicles, DLC trophies, and more!

    To download this pack, install the latest patch for BL2VR. Go to the new "Downloadable Content" option in the Main Menu, then follow the prompts from there.

As you can see, that's A LOT of NEW content for BL2VR. A little FYI, this is more content than what we released in the base game! It more than doubles the amount of gameplay! Our team worked very hard and pushed to make sure we were able to get all this content to you as soon as possible.

But we didn't stop there. You thought we were just going to give you the DLC, just like that, and call it a day? We wanted to show you that we continued to listen to your feedback and made even more quality of life improvements again! Some of the highlights for this patch include:

HUD ADJUSTMENT OPTIONS (Community Suggestion)

    Within the Options Menu, new HUD Options are available:

        Default - We noticed a lot of you said you couldn't see the minimap very well so we adjusted the entire HUD and made this the default HUD.

        No Minimap - Using this option will completely turn off the minimap but still show you your current mission.

        No Missions - This option gets rid of the entire top half of the HUD (Minimap and missions).

        No HUD - This was requested by a lot of you so we added it in. You can play the game without the HUD!

HEIGHT CALIBRATION (Community Suggestion)

    Re-centering will now also readjust your height for players changing between sitting and standing during gameplay.

HAND MESH POSITION (Community Suggestion)

    Hand meshes now pivot around the weapon-trigger in motion controller mode rather than the wrists, to make it feel less like you're holding onto a hand mesh instead of its gun.

BUG FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS

    Fixed an issue with the menu popping back and forth when near chest high collision

    Fixed an issue where the player had to point below an object to interact with it when using height offset

    Fixed an issue where character skins failed to change when scrolling with the arrows

    Fixed an issue where pop-up messages in the bottom left corner could have their text cut off

    Fixed some issues where HUD elements clipped into one another

    Fixed some issues pertaining to the Japanese region and button glyphs

    Fixed an issue with the Aim Controller where the player's height offset would cause bullets to fire inaccurately

    Fixed the Load Character menu not showing the "Scroll" prompt/glyphs in motion controller mode

    Fixed an issue where Zer0's sword would remain invisible if he executed a melee attack with motion controllers during his action skill

    Fixed an issue where laser beam attacks (e.g. Constructors, Lab Rats, Dukino's Mom, Terramorphous) fail to damage the player

    Fixed a number of screen particles

    Rebalanced some DLC bosses for single-player gameplay

    They drop more seraph crystals

    Dexiduous is now a Seraph Guardian. If you manage to solo him, he will drop A LOT of Seraph crystals

    Motor Mama's Rocket Launcher deals slightly less damage

    The Badassaurus has been balanced

    The side quest "Follow the Glow" now has its initial waypoint at the entrance to the path leading to Adorton Station rather than at the level transition to Adorton Station

    The Hoplite Seraph shield now increases Shield capacity by 40% (used to be 20%), which increases by an additional 20% if shared with Deathtrap using the "Sharing is caring" skill

    The side quest "MMORPGFPS" will have the player automatically crouch to Teabag if on top of xxDatVaultHuntrxx, no input required!

    Fixed performance issues in Washburne refinery

    Shamans have slightly less health

    Drifters have slightly more health

    The layout of the Hyperion ship in the Big Game Hunt DLC is now parallel to the ground to ensure player comfort

    During the "Fall of Nakayama" main quest, there is a lever that players need to shoot to activate a retractable bridge. This lever now has a waypoint marker if the player is standing on the other side of the bridge

    Tweaks to the behaviors of the Blimp in Flamerock refuge, and the floating platforms in Mines of Avarice and Murderlin's temple, all for comfort reasons

    Fixed a collision issue with a red chest not being accessible through a path under the elevator at the entrance to the Wreck of the Ice Sickle

    Improved PlayStationģMove Controller rumble

    Improved teleportation system

We hope that the content we've been able to add and adapt for PSVR has been exciting, and we love reading posts about people having a blast with BL2VR. Thank you so much for supporting our game!

- BL2VR Dev Team
https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/d0kyfe/bamf_dlc_added_to_borderlands_2_vr_for_free/


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« Reply #262 on: September 12, 2019, 05:21:03 PM »
Unless they fixed the barrel distortion issue on this, stay far away. The way they're doing stereoscopy is objectively wrong and will make you toss your cookies (there's no official UE3 PSVR implementation and they rolled their own, very badly). Pity, this would have been my most played PSVR game, esp with the Aim support.

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« Reply #263 on: September 12, 2019, 07:23:08 PM »
Tl;dr.  Wasn't sure if that was addressed or not in the notes, but I'm not seeing it.  Damn..  Ho well, glad you mentioned it.

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« Reply #264 on: September 20, 2019, 03:59:58 PM »
Recently visited a VR thing that made me a true believer in the future of VR again.
A VR experience with 10 people at the same time, walking around, wearing VR goggles and carrying cool guns.

Here's a promotion vid of the thing


Our entire company enjoyed it, even some of our employees usually not into games.
god

Svejk

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« Reply #265 on: September 20, 2019, 04:09:57 PM »
There's a place in Utah called The Void where they do similar things.  They reconstruct stages/sets for whatever theme they're doing..  Not sure if you can do as many as ten people though....


Bebpo

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« Reply #266 on: October 05, 2019, 04:08:29 PM »
Yeah I'm doing the VOID Star Wars VR experience tomorrow. Will be interesting to see how it compares.


Beat Saber got 2 new things

-No more mod song support for Oculus quest

-a...4 song Panic at the Disco pack


I picked up the latter and the songs are really easy. I S'ranked 3 of the 4 songs on expert on my first run with an A on the other. Now maybe I've just gotten good at this point having S-ranked almost every song in the game on expert outside the 3 Bemani tracks I can't even clear on expert, but just felt too easy. The OST3 tracks were on the easier side but still better imo.

Then again I play this way too much lol, got the 24 hour game time trophy months ago. With no mod support, just keep playing the same 40-50 tracks over and over so getting kind of good at them.

Svejk

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« Reply #267 on: October 05, 2019, 04:34:35 PM »
Let us know how the Void is.  Just found out there's one about 2 hours from me.   :ohhh

Svejk

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« Reply #268 on: October 09, 2019, 09:09:44 AM »
Anybody try out that Espire 1: VR Operative?  Not much out there, but read somewhere it's a basically a VR MGS....  those are strong words and shouldn't be used lightly.  Because if so, I'll need to get this pronto.  The videos make it look pretty decent. 

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« Reply #269 on: October 09, 2019, 05:56:38 PM »
i pulled out the quest to check out real vr fishing the other week. been playing a bunch. put a bunch of new techno and some ambient tunes on there, hit the armchair with a beer. this my jam. (not to be confused with real fishing vr lol). all locations are in korea, really well done environments and simple effects that make for a really relaxing smooth experience.

joked with our cfo this morning, an avid fly fisher, about teaching him a few things after i've levelled up a bit. he laughed and agreed, then offered to take me fly fishing for real  :lol
looking forward to this big dick energy corporate synergy real fishing experience (im probably going to really embarrass myself).

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« Reply #270 on: October 09, 2019, 06:04:54 PM »
also, yeah. announced a few weeks back now. but they did it.



https://www.engadget.com/2019/09/26/oculus-quest-link-hands-on-pc-vr
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« Reply #271 on: October 09, 2019, 07:25:41 PM »
Let us know how the Void is.  Just found out there's one about 2 hours from me.   :ohhh

Oh, so responding to this. It's pretty cool. It's kinda short but is definitely like the future of videogames as it was straight up a video game. The coolest bits are definitely walking between rooms without taking your helmet off, obviously games never gonna be able to replicate this but I'd like to see more amusement park places have these. It's super cool to walk through a virtual door with hands free VR. Walking onto a floating platform that then flies away with you on it and then lands somewhere else and you walk off it to the new area is rad.

The other stuff is related like hitting physical objects/buttons/levers which is cool but not that big of deal. Some heat/water effects too which are nice.

But the biggest thing besides walking between rooms in wireless VR is the haptic feedback vest. This can easily be done at home and needs to be the future for VR. Since the Star Wars one is essentially a cover shooter, shooting gallery, it's pretty rad to feel when you get hit, where you get hit and how hard you get hit. Definitely adds a lot of makes you want to play better and not get hit! So you start ducking behind cover and playing safer and more realistically.

It also uses controller free VR where it creates virtual hands from your hands out in front of it. Pretty cool but it's not a huge deal. I honestly think we need haptic gloves > glove-less hands so we can feel the virtual pressure feedback of virtual items we touch which you can't do with your gloveless hands unless it's a room built with objects for the VR.

And for the cover shooter portion you pick up a physical gun which is your VR gun and shooting was pretty decent with it. Would like to see VR light gun accessories that are like the old Virtua Cop guns and how accurate they'd be shooting in VR with them.

Definitely gets me excited for the future of VR. It's a way better Star Wars ride/experience than the new 4d ride at Star Wars land which is also trying to be a immersive+game thing.

Probably will go back and try the Wreck it Ralph one they have at some point. Definitely would like to do the Aliens one in Vegas.

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« Reply #272 on: October 09, 2019, 07:38:19 PM »
Oh man... I would so do an Alien one!

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« Reply #273 on: October 10, 2019, 12:39:44 AM »
Recently visited a VR thing that made me a true believer in the future of VR again.
A VR experience with 10 people at the same time, walking around, wearing VR goggles and carrying cool guns.

Here's a promotion vid of the thing


Our entire company enjoyed it, even some of our employees usually not into games.

People keep trying to make LBE stuff a thing but I feel like its dying out even quicker than at home VR.

There's a place in Utah called The Void where they do similar things.  They reconstruct stages/sets for whatever theme they're doing..  Not sure if you can do as many as ten people though....



Yeah the Void is probably one of the more successful LBE companies out there. The Ghostbusters and Star Wars things got some hype. They've got a location right next to where I work: https://www.thevoid.com/locations/santa-monica/

Tickets used to run about $30 for a 30 minute experience.
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« Reply #274 on: October 10, 2019, 12:44:53 AM »
In Japan there is a Dragon Quest one:

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« Reply #275 on: October 10, 2019, 01:12:33 AM »
Hey, I played that on Wii when it was called Dragon Quest Swords!

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Still would play this if I'm in the neighborhood
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« Reply #276 on: October 10, 2019, 08:50:38 PM »
https://vrzone-pic.com/shinjuku/en/

Look at all the VR experiences they had.

They closed in March of this year  :'(

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« Reply #277 on: October 11, 2019, 12:21:12 AM »
LBE probably has another year for someone to get it to a profitable state before it drops off the map again for another 5 years.
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« Reply #278 on: October 11, 2019, 08:34:02 AM »
https://vrzone-pic.com/shinjuku/en/

Look at all the VR experiences they had.

They closed in March of this year  :'(
:mindblown

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« Reply #279 on: November 24, 2019, 09:49:42 AM »
Since the HL:A thread is becoming a general VR thread might as well make this to have a better way to talk about it


My Quest is coming today, pretty stoked. I got these cables for Link coming tomorrow and GMG hooked it up with a bunch of free VR games so I'll test em out and see how that goess

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« Reply #280 on: November 24, 2019, 09:52:04 AM »
Oooo, is there confirmation that cable extender will work with Oculus Link?
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« Reply #281 on: November 24, 2019, 09:55:41 AM »
I saw this youtuber recommended it and said it was a good extender. Same for the oculus quest reddit



from what reddit says, it does sound like you want to keep your total cable length to ~20ft or under and this thing is 16ft so I got a short cable to connect to the quest itself.

the video also recommend a comfort strap that doubles as cable management so i might look into that.

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« Reply #282 on: November 24, 2019, 10:07:46 AM »
I just same-day ordered one from Amazon. If it actually comes in Iíll report on it. My cable works fine, itís just too short to get to my minimal safe play space.
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« Reply #283 on: November 24, 2019, 10:09:40 AM »
since i've heard mixed reports, is the quest built in audio any good or are the little headphones pretty much required?

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« Reply #284 on: November 24, 2019, 10:26:36 AM »
Youíre probably asking the wrong person :( Iím fine with the built-in audio but Iím not the best judge of this sort of thing. I also just like the idea of keeping my ears open so Iím at least vaguely aware if something happens around me. Itís worth trying without them at least, if it might save you a few bucks. The quality certainly ainít bad or annoying or too tinny or anything.
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« Reply #285 on: November 24, 2019, 02:41:41 PM »
Just showed up a couple hours ago. Feels real good, zero wires is really amazing. Sound feels fine too. Fiddled with some of the demos and bought Beat Saber, mostly just played with that lol. Gonna watch wrasslin in a bit but I'll do the Vader thing sometime soon.

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« Reply #286 on: November 24, 2019, 03:15:34 PM »
Hey we already had a vr thread that no one participated in

Anyway I've had a quest since like May and it's great fun. It's been worth it just to watch people fall down walking on a plank.
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« Reply #287 on: November 24, 2019, 04:21:37 PM »
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« Reply #288 on: November 24, 2019, 04:33:13 PM »
superhot is still the only game i really love on the quest so far
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« Reply #289 on: November 24, 2019, 04:36:12 PM »
oh oops, searched for vr and didn't see. might be easy to merge the two

played vader episode 1 and it was pretty good but a bit too restrictive. kept moving out of the play area when i didn't with superhot or beat saber

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« Reply #290 on: November 24, 2019, 05:22:59 PM »
just bought this thing http://ipv4.unitek-products.com/product?view=product&id=376. will update whether it works well with Link.
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« Reply #292 on: November 24, 2019, 08:28:46 PM »
Oh my god Magic Leap is so terrible, I got to try one and I was like "Noooooo are you kidding"

It's the VR equivalent of R-Zone

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« Reply #293 on: November 24, 2019, 08:31:15 PM »
I just same-day ordered one from Amazon. If it actually comes in Iíll report on it. My cable works fine, itís just too short to get to my minimal safe play space.

Bad news: I canít get it to work with that cable extender.

The cable extender is also pretty stiff (and it smells funky too). Thicker than the working USB cable.
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« Reply #294 on: November 24, 2019, 08:39:08 PM »
Hold up, I was wrong, works fine. I was using the wrong USB cable. I have too many cables.
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« Reply #295 on: November 24, 2019, 09:43:14 PM »
How's the quality? Any lag?

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« Reply #296 on: November 24, 2019, 10:57:52 PM »
Nope, all good. Just threw on Virtual Rickality to test things out.



The main issue I've had with Link is that when you disconnect from the PC, it seems to frequently lose full 6dof tracking in the controllers and you have to reboot the Quest to make things right. It feels like the sort of thing that will get sorted out. It's not a big deal, just plan on rebooting your Quest if you're going to be using Link for now.
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« Reply #297 on: November 25, 2019, 10:16:22 AM »

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« Reply #298 on: November 25, 2019, 12:45:10 PM »
Espire 1: VR Operative is very promising from the level I played. It's more along the lines of a "full game" than many of the more arcade-y 15-minutes-or-less games that VR seems to excel at.

I played the Quest version, not the PC versions. I'd describe the visuals on the level I saw as HD Dreamcast-y with Special Sauce. The environments are pretty plain, but if you see a computer or a model with details on it, it's probably pretty detailed. Here's the Quest version, which runs perfect:



The thing with Quest downports is that they may look worse, but they'll generally run and play fine, which is why I have no prob using it for head movement-heavy games. They've been pretty decent about making sure games meet Quest performance standards before they make them available on the store. This is a big improvement over the Go store where it was kind of Android-y when it came to quality control (ie. If it builds, you can sell it).

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PC version doesn't look great either. They were clearly keeping their specs low to make sure this translated to Quest and PSVR well.
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The game itself is a stealth shooter. You have magnetized hands and knees/feet (or you're part robot or something) and can climb any metal surface. Yes, this means hanging over enemies' heads on the ceiling Alien-style and then going bug nuts on everyone. The climbing mechanic is pretty fun--there's something similar in Vader Immortal but it's put to much more use here. This isn't really a case where there's linear, you-must-use-this-to-advance conspicuous metal paths all over the place. It's placed kind of organically. Anyway, I only did 1 level, and a lot of it was very tutorial, so I can't really say how well this mechanic is used throughout the game, but there's a lot of potential in this.

Also, it's really weird hanging from the ceiling in VR, looking upwards in reality, and seeing the floor of some Dreamcast office building filled with baddies. I'm not even sure if that sentence makes sense. We're deep Borges now.

The shooting mechanics are also nice. I won't go over everything, but they've added numerous nice wrinkles to the same-ol same-ol. You grab weapons by reaching near body locations and grabbing (ie. grab at your waist for your pistol, your left chest for your tool...), and unlike most games that use this mechanic, Espire lets you customize exactly where you want to grab. So if you need your waist holsters at nipple level, you do you. There's more to shooting but like I'm supposed to have a job and I have other shit I want to touch on. It's good, maybe better than good.

Next, comfort and UI options. I said this is more like a full game, and the developers have gone above and beyond in offering enough comfort options to make sure anyone can play this to their likely. I think they have every comfort option in the book and they may have invented a few new ones. Also, the HUD is rather customizable. This is the kind of FPS that requires actual FPS movement, which is a tough thing to do in a corridor-heavy VR game without making people spray vomit way beyond the limits of their Guardian zone. So aces here, with one minor nit that is not specific to this game...

...Comfort options. They offer a lot of them, but they don't really explain any of them. Lots of other games with comfort options are the same way. This stuff can get conceptual and tough to describe, so I think most developers just opt to not write difficult tool tips. The issue is that first impressions are everything, and if Average Joe doesn't know what he needs his comfort options to be, he's likely not going to have a very pleasant experience with VR, and he'll never try it again, especially if he gets sick (and he probably will). Pistol Whip, which has really simple controls, also has really complex, thorough comfort settings. Pistol Whip is a great intro to VR, but understanding the comfort options is more demanding than anything the game asks of you. This is a significant barrier; users need to understand at least the basics of comfort options if they're going to enjoy VR. The nature of the problem also means that this is something the players have to learn, unless there are like unimaginable super-psychic processors developed any time soon.
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« Reply #299 on: November 25, 2019, 12:48:45 PM »
Climbing the ladders in Vader Immortal was the only time I felt ill yesterday and I played for 3-4 hours throughout the day, but it hit immediately