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« Reply #1200 on: March 20, 2018, 12:23:55 PM »
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« Reply #1203 on: March 20, 2018, 02:15:11 PM »
Yeah, why not double down, good call.
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« Reply #1205 on: March 20, 2018, 04:39:47 PM »
Child Abuse Imagery found within bitcoin's blockchain

That's been the end goal all along.

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« Reply #1206 on: March 20, 2018, 05:19:42 PM »
I'm still undecided if I should buy more crypto on the low or cash out. At this point I'm still at about 20% profit.
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« Reply #1207 on: March 21, 2018, 04:18:51 PM »
On a serious note, anybody who uses a classic bitcoin wallet that downloads a local copy of the blockchain may want to think about how comfortable they are about being in a legal grey area where they have non-directly accessible CP on their hard drive.
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« Reply #1208 on: March 21, 2018, 06:57:08 PM »
Don't file the cryptos on your taxes Atra, most crypto traders aren't

http://time.com/money/5178950/the-irs-is-cracking-down-on-cryptocurrency-transactions-heres-what-that-means-for-you/

The IRS is going to have their way with so many tender cryptotrader buttholes this tax season :aah
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« Reply #1209 on: March 21, 2018, 08:00:09 PM »
"And what about here, during tax season, when there was only one set of footprints?"

And Kara replied: "My child, that is when I carried you."
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« Reply #1210 on: March 22, 2018, 02:15:12 AM »
Don't file the cryptos on your taxes Atra, most crypto traders aren't

http://time.com/money/5178950/the-irs-is-cracking-down-on-cryptocurrency-transactions-heres-what-that-means-for-you/

The IRS is going to have their way with so many tender cryptotrader buttholes this tax season :aah

Given the past few days' news I'm sure the FBI will have a go as well.

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« Reply #1211 on: March 22, 2018, 07:46:01 AM »

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« Reply #1212 on: March 23, 2018, 02:35:34 PM »
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2018/03/22/college-students-are-using-student-loans-invest-bitcoin-yes-really/Syr7mJpgIzDn6iOa6a0g5J/story.html
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One-fifth of 1,000 students polled by The Student Loan Report, a website that reports on debt issues from the perspective of students, said they had used some of the money set aside for their living expenses to invest in cryptocurrencies. The survey was conducted by Pollfish, which specializes in online polling.

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« Reply #1213 on: March 23, 2018, 02:45:18 PM »
I'm trying to sell some ETH to pay for a parking ticket but no one seems to be biting.
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« Reply #1214 on: March 24, 2018, 10:42:14 AM »
just watched that john oliver segment, was surprised he wasn't more negative about it, that's arguably one of the most positive and sensible things i've seen about cryptocurrencies in mainstream media even with the cute naive part about pump and dump along with currency trading in general (especially considering how many segments they've run on loans/debt)

long blockchain tea :dead

sorta wish they got the actual bitconnect guy, assuming he's not dead or in prison or whatever i could probably wiki this

though now i can't stop thinking about that reporter who was overexcited about denuggeting chicken
That's been the end goal all along.


well i mean other than the part where you can produce heroin without harming someone

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although i do think authorities probably could better allocate resources to unspool the supply chains of child pornography versus chasing easy wins against people with "many fetishes" like Amir0x and Dennis

especially when it's the authorities doing the file sharing of the child pornography in the first place
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« Reply #1215 on: March 24, 2018, 10:45:48 AM »
HOOOLLLLYYYY FUCKING SHIT

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« Reply #1216 on: March 24, 2018, 10:47:21 AM »
HERBALIIIIIIIFFFFEEE

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« Reply #1217 on: March 24, 2018, 10:54:22 AM »
Carlos Matos clearly doesn't see pyramid scams or ponzi schemes he sees triangle opportunities.

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« Reply #1218 on: March 24, 2018, 08:26:19 PM »
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« Reply #1219 on: March 24, 2018, 09:42:58 PM »
Good to know it wasn't forced on him by social studies warriors at Hardvard.

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« Reply #1220 on: March 25, 2018, 05:18:19 PM »
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« Reply #1221 on: March 29, 2018, 09:09:39 PM »
Is crypto over? Ethereum is below $370

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« Reply #1222 on: March 30, 2018, 12:54:34 PM »
Cryptocurrency will never go away but it’s never going to be what it was again
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« Reply #1223 on: March 30, 2018, 01:23:06 PM »
Cryptocurrency will never go away but it’s never going to be what it was again
what i find strange is how even despite good news Ether keeps falling. Don't really understand it

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« Reply #1224 on: March 30, 2018, 05:22:30 PM »
It got ethered.
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« Reply #1225 on: March 30, 2018, 05:30:56 PM »

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« Reply #1226 on: March 30, 2018, 07:35:38 PM »
I'm still about 22% in the green overall.

Should I dump now or will it go back up.  :doge
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« Reply #1227 on: March 30, 2018, 09:50:25 PM »
It’s time to book your gains on the stock market and plow it into crypto.

Tether especially.

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« Reply #1228 on: March 30, 2018, 10:50:53 PM »
Cryptocurrency will never go away but it’s never going to be what it was again
what i find strange is how even despite good news Ether keeps falling. Don't really understand it

Cryptocurrency isn't actually backed by anything.  So anything above $0.00 for a shitcoin is overpriced and overvalued.  Even tulip bulbs were a tangible commodity.
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« Reply #1229 on: March 30, 2018, 10:58:44 PM »
Cryptocurrency will never go away but it’s never going to be what it was again
what i find strange is how even despite good news Ether keeps falling. Don't really understand it

Cryptocurrency isn't actually backed by anything.  So anything above $0.00 for a shitcoin is overpriced and overvalued.  Even tulip bulbs were a tangible commodity.
Well, the way i always saw it was that ether has some real technology behind it and funding the coin is a way to fund the technology.

The smart contracts and all that are legitimately a very powerful concept. If those take off and the token used were Ethereums, then there's definitely tangibility in that.

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Re: Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Thread
« Reply #1230 on: March 30, 2018, 11:27:48 PM »
Cryptocurrency will never go away but it’s never going to be what it was again
what i find strange is how even despite good news Ether keeps falling. Don't really understand it

Cryptocurrency isn't actually backed by anything.  So anything above $0.00 for a shitcoin is overpriced and overvalued.  Even tulip bulbs were a tangible commodity.

Also, you can always eat a tulip bulb if you get really hungry.
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« Reply #1231 on: April 02, 2018, 10:30:06 AM »
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night announces that they are allowing users to mine for cryptocurrency during gameplay. I'm sure this won't be the last game to do something like this.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/posts/2150907

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« Reply #1233 on: April 04, 2018, 11:25:11 AM »
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lmao.

Hahahahaha, I can't believe Atra's stupid-ass decided to get back into the Shitcoin market. :neogaf

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« Reply #1234 on: April 04, 2018, 11:27:11 AM »
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« Reply #1235 on: April 04, 2018, 11:45:31 AM »
The thing is, IIRC (I'd have to go back pages) I told him never invest in Shitcoins again once he made his $50,000(?) profit. But like a dumbass, he goes back and SURPRISE the market is swings and he loses his cash. :neogaf

As for the drawing-on-comission market, Atra: Get into the Furry business. I'd have to find that Vice article (or wherever) that had talk about drawing Fursonas being profitable.

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« Reply #1236 on: April 04, 2018, 11:48:34 AM »
I still haven’t heard back from my family’s accountant what I officially owe in taxes but if it is what I think it is.... I’m not paying them a fucking cent.

It’s fucking bullshit to owe money for money I don’t actually have/I didn’t actually cash out into my own savings.

IRS can lick my taint. They should be going after people who are rolling in dough. Not me who will probably never own a house or have a retirement fund.

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« Reply #1237 on: April 04, 2018, 11:50:30 AM »
I think it could easily hit 50K end of this year. And possibly 100k next year.

We shall see...


:neogaf

But for real, good that you got a profit Atra: But really, do the stock market instead of Buttcoins.

Told you, dude.

I still haven’t heard back from my family’s accountant what I officially owe in taxes but if it is what I think it is.... I’m not paying them a fucking cent.

Enjoy having your assets seized and going to white-collar prison for a year or two, then. :doge

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« Reply #1238 on: April 04, 2018, 11:51:24 AM »
I’ll shoot myself in the fucking head before they take anything. Fuck them.

If they really want my measly $12K in my savings (i.e. all the money I have) then I'll just blow it on drugs and whores and then off myself.

I'm so done with everything.

edit: not to mention, my health is failing. I might have some sort of hormone disorder with my thyroid being all fucked up. Who knows what sort of miserable existence I'll have if I don't off myself soon.
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« Reply #1239 on: April 04, 2018, 12:09:03 PM »
surprisingly popular option among the corporate class tbh.

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« Reply #1240 on: April 04, 2018, 02:44:19 PM »
I think he has a pretty good chance of getting away with it honestly. I don’t think coinbase or any of them are actually reporting transactions to the IRS.

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« Reply #1241 on: April 04, 2018, 02:59:14 PM »
they are

he dun goofed  :patel

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« Reply #1242 on: April 04, 2018, 03:02:40 PM »
I did the majority of my trading on Bittrex. They didn’t even give me a 1099 form.

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« Reply #1243 on: April 04, 2018, 03:19:23 PM »
why are you tripping? The IRS is operating on the old only if FIAT rules for this year's taxes.

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« Reply #1244 on: April 04, 2018, 03:26:03 PM »
why are you tripping? The IRS is operating on the old only if FIAT rules for this year's taxes.
Source?

edit: I just talked with my CFO who is a practicing accountant and crypto enthusiast. He says Crypto to Crypto transactions are taxable events in 2017.
He also says what I can do is get a 12 month no interest credit card and pay my crypto taxes off with that and then just gradually pay off the credit card debt so I'm not getting hit with big interest payments if I went the installment route with the IRS.

So maybe just maybe I don't need to off myself.
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« Reply #1245 on: April 04, 2018, 04:18:47 PM »
why are you tripping? The IRS is operating on the old only if FIAT rules for this year's taxes.
Source?

edit: I just talked with my CFO who is a practicing accountant and crypto enthusiast. He says Crypto to Crypto transactions are taxable events in 2017.
He also says what I can do is get a 12 month no interest credit card and pay my crypto taxes off with that and then just gradually pay off the credit card debt so I'm not getting hit with big interest payments if I went the installment route with the IRS.

So maybe just maybe I don't need to off myself.

God these rules are dumb. So if u made 5000 on a coin. Sold to btc then bought another coin but lost all the 5000 you gaines, you have to pay the taxes on the 5000 as a capital gain? So what if we let the irs figure out we get a fine on top of what we owe? How substantial?

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« Reply #1246 on: April 04, 2018, 04:31:53 PM »
Apparently you can deduct up to $3,000 on a loss. The percentage of taxes you would owe on the rest is... I'm pretty sure 15%.

My problem is that I have about $32,000 end of 2017 in profits (on paper) that I owe taxes on this year (short term taxes).
Then those profits spiked up to $50,000+ in early January (on paper) and now my profits are currently at...

4 figures lets just say...

And I'll owe (short term) taxes on those $50,000+ "profits" next year as well. That is partially what is making me want to eat lead at the moment.
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« Reply #1247 on: April 04, 2018, 04:40:16 PM »
Apparently you can deduct up to $3,000 on a loss. The percentage of taxes you would owe on the rest is... I'm pretty sure 15%.

My problem is that I have about $32,000 end of 2017 in profits (on paper) that I owe taxes on this year.
Then those profits spiked up to $50,000+ in early January (on paper) and now my profits are currently at...

4 figures lets just say...

And I'll owe taxes on those $50,000+ "profits" next year as well. That is partially what is making me want to eat lead at the moment.
That kind of defies logic tbh they are going to retroactively ruin alot of lives on rules they are applying ad hoc? Like what? Anyways it seems like for 2017 a way out could be claiming like like property exchanges. Srry anything after that lol

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« Reply #1248 on: April 04, 2018, 04:46:25 PM »
So lemme get this right, they're reporting all this shit to the IRS who are going to tally up all those crypto fees and somehow get y for it when they still using old punch card mainframes and have huge logistical issues tracking traditional tax evasion and cgt biz. I'd hazard a guess you'll be fine not reporting it.

What's the downside of simply reporting what you cashed out to fiat and ignoring ur otc transactions? Would bet a lot on IRS having no capacity to track down scrubs such as yourself.
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« Reply #1249 on: April 04, 2018, 04:52:18 PM »
So lemme get this right, they're reporting all this shit to the IRS who are going to tally up all those crypto fees and somehow get y for it when they still using old punch card mainframes and have huge logistical issues tracking traditional tax evasion and cgt biz. I'd hazard a guess you'll be fine not reporting it.

What's the downside of simply reporting what you cashed out to fiat and ignoring ur otc transactions? Would bet a lot on IRS having no capacity to track down scrubs such as yourself.

What you said. Im reading the guidance they issued. It assumes to fairmarket value the coin to us dollars at the time of transaction. Different exchanges have different values at any point in time. So an auditor is going to have to determine which exchange to use, use the timestamp to figure out an exchange rate at time x of the transaction. For everyone of your transactions. For that 50 k back tax. This is easily overcome through software... that currently does not exist... plus do they have datasets for every second at every exchange. Its a fools errand until they set up for it. Assuming they have not yet by how tentative they are.

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« Reply #1250 on: April 04, 2018, 04:56:27 PM »
There is no way the IRS are set up for it, or will be in the near future.

Even once they are, you are not actually trading any assets on exchanges like binance. There are no transactions being committed to ledgers outside of their own internal IOU ledger. It would be incredibly difficult, and I think incorrect,  for the IRS to claim your holdings on an otc exchange are making capital gains until they have been withdrawn.
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« Reply #1251 on: April 04, 2018, 05:03:46 PM »
All in all, I should've known better back in December.

If I do end up paying my taxes it'll be so I'm not paranoid 24/7 about the IRS breathing down my neck because their boss, Uncle Sam, needs that money to blow up unruly brown people in 3rd world countries and make stupid expense flashy weapons.

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« Reply #1252 on: April 04, 2018, 05:12:06 PM »
edit: not to mention, my health is failing. I might have some sort of hormone disorder with my thyroid being all fucked up. Who knows what sort of miserable existence I'll have if I don't off myself soon.

Eh, that's manageable if it's like Hyperthyroidism.

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« Reply #1253 on: April 04, 2018, 05:13:44 PM »
Well, I'll know soon enough. I don't like it when doctors stay silent.

Makes me assume the worst.

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« Reply #1254 on: April 04, 2018, 05:22:35 PM »
jesus christ that's madness.

there's no way the IRS can catch most people on this. they can't even catch social security fraud that is the easiest thing to catch. Maybe i should be thankful i lost half the small amount i put in :doge

Since i never actually committed trades outside the initial purchase i should be good? right? right?

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« Reply #1255 on: April 04, 2018, 05:29:38 PM »
FIAT to crypto you should be good.

Crypto to Crypto and Crypto to Fiat... spread your cheeks.

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« Reply #1256 on: April 04, 2018, 05:33:59 PM »
FIAT to crypto you should be good.

Crypto to Crypto and Crypto to Fiat... spread your cheeks.
yeah i just read that part.

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« Reply #1257 on: April 04, 2018, 05:38:09 PM »
surely for the IRS it's the easiest snag they'll ever make since all the information they'll ever need is in your hash wallet?

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« Reply #1258 on: April 04, 2018, 06:05:44 PM »
Well, I'll know soon enough. I don't like it when doctors stay silent.

Makes me assume the worst.

PM me since it's off topic. I'm curious what your situation is.

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« Reply #1259 on: April 04, 2018, 06:12:39 PM »
Apparently you can deduct up to $3,000 on a loss. The percentage of taxes you would owe on the rest is... I'm pretty sure 15%.

My problem is that I have about $32,000 end of 2017 in profits (on paper) that I owe taxes on this year (short term taxes).
Then those profits spiked up to $50,000+ in early January (on paper) and now my profits are currently at...

4 figures lets just say...

And I'll owe (short term) taxes on those $50,000+ "profits" next year as well. That is partially what is making me want to eat lead at the moment.


Worst mentioning that your cost basis for  Jan 1 2018 will be whatever the cash value of your last trade in 2017. So if you realized 50K in profits in 2017, you're probably good for 2018 (tax wise anyway).

My (wo)man (shosta) has nodules on her thyroid as well. They always check them out and it's always nothing. Might also want to check into like reflux or some shit.

good news is none of that will stop you from deepthroating.
As long as you cashed out for fiat at in 2018, I believe you should be ok for the 50K, so like you “made” 50K, but in a subsequent text you “lost” $45K and you will only owe on the $5k difference.

Unless you bought back into the same coin within 30 days and violated the wash sale rule.

The $3k deduction I believe only applies to offsetting losses in future years. So for example, if you overall lost money in 2018, and you realized $30k in losses, you can deduct $3k from future asset earnings each year for the next 3 years (I.e I think this ONLY offsets stocks, bonds, and I guess crypto, and not your normal wage slave income).
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