Dusting Off The Artistic Offsets Principle for Kevin Spacey [Kill List = 3]

[recursivelyenumerable]

House of Cards was only good in the BBC version

fixed.
inb4 double entendre.

[Cerveza mas fina]

House of Cards was only good in the BBC version

fixed.
inb4 double entendre.

wow thats anal

[benjipwns]

The BBC version didn't feel like it immediately turned things up to eleven, even though it's only four episodes, because the Parliamentary and Party system was more conducive for a lot of the plotting. Though I never watched the follow up series, I liked it ending rather than following him into power.

Never read the books obviously because like bro this is the 90's.

[eleuin]

The Toku Rule: if you had any clout in the 70s, 80s or 90s, you probably fucked a kid.

I refuse to believe bob ross wasn't a saint

[benjipwns]

His landscapes are where he hid the bodies.

[chronovore]

The Toku Rule: if you had any clout in the 70s, 80s or 90s, you probably fucked a kid.

I refuse to believe bob ross wasn't a saint

Ross worked in the USAF for 20 years, and rose to the rank of a Master Drill Sergeant.

He was no saint; those happy little clouds was where he went to pay penance.

https://imgur.com/gallery/KO4aw

[ToxicAdam]

His landscapes are where he hid the bodies.

Someone needs to make this movie.

[Stoney Mason]

The BBC version didn't feel like it immediately turned things up to eleven, even though it's only four episodes, because the Parliamentary and Party system was more conducive for a lot of the plotting. Though I never watched the follow up series, I liked it ending rather than following him into power.

Never read the books obviously because like bro this is the 90's.

British version felt less trashy. American version felt way too self important.

It also bothered me that you would run into the occasional dumb fan of the show that actually felt like they were getting insight into real life politics. That's not the show's fault but it still bugged me. 

[Let's Cyber]

at this point I'm just convinced everyone I like is actually a shitty person, including tom hanks

We're a few weeks from finding out that Tom Hanks has a few dozen bodies in his basement.

AND IS ALSO A TRUMP SUPPORTER

[Boredfrom]

JUST IN GURLS

https://twitter.com/KevinSpacey/status/924848412842971136

I heard his statement was painfully bad, but holy shit. lol

Blame being drunk and gay for touching kids...

[AdmiralViscen]

JUST IN GURLS

https://twitter.com/KevinSpacey/status/924848412842971136

I heard his statement was painfully bad, but holy shit. lol

Blame being drunk and gay* for touching kids...

*If he did it, which he didn't

[Momo]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/entertainment/via-twitter-actress-accuses-jeremy-piven-of-alleged-sexual-assault/

beyond time for a generic #metoo thread?

[Shrew]

have heroes brehs

Check out this guy, too cool to have heroes

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Not surprising:
https://www.avclub.com/two-more-actors-accuse-kevin-spacey-of-sexual-assault-a-1820037557

[Momo]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brett-ratner-harassment-claims-warner-bros-is-reviewing-situation-1053686

Brett Ratner next, is there a list?

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brett-ratner-harassment-claims-warner-bros-is-reviewing-situation-1053686

Brett Ratner next, is there a list?

[BobFromPikeCreek]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/01/dustin-hoffman-accused-of-sexual-harassment-against-17-year-old

Dustin Hoffman

[Madrun Badrun]

I’ll have a hard-boiled egg … and a soft-boiled clitoris

[counterhit]

a 14 year old, but he won an Oscar for American Beauty

He should go to jail for at least the latter

[Joe Molotov]

I’ll have a hard-boiled egg … and a soft-boiled clitoris

Man, that's almost as good GHWB's "David Copafeel" joke.

[Atramental]

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[naff]

When I read Tony Montana saying he had PTSD for 6 months after facing off Kevin Spacey grabbing his crotch all i can manage is an eyeroll  I know why i have little empathy, and I don't think it's justified. Anyway.... One; these stories are appearing in my feed far more than objectively worse, more prolific, examples of rape accusations,  two; i've had my crotch (and other areas) groped/fondled numerous times in gay bars, and a few times in reg bars without consent, and barely felt angry bout it. I always figured it was because the problematic power dynamics weren't there. I never felt threatened, and was able to indicate i wasn't into it.

So yeah, idk, kinda frustrates me as it seems these dudes are getting more attention than more egregious acts because 'ew gays' and they're men complaining.

[Madrun Badrun]

Just because you are OK with that does not mean others are.

[naff]

6 MONTHS PTSD THOUGH. FROM A CROTCH GRAB. That resulted in him telling Kevins mates to take him home. Not trying to minimise Kevins creep rank, but it feels like exaggeration....

[AdmiralViscen]

I’ll have a hard-boiled egg … and a soft-boiled clitoris

Newsfeed

[Rufus]

So yeah, idk, kinda frustrates me as it seems these dudes are getting more attention than more egregious acts because 'ew gays' and they're men complaining.

Celebrity multiplier plus homophobia, for sure. The public's interest in any given story has a half-life, after all. These 'twists' revitalize it. (The cause of #metoo and adjacent movements is tragically self-defeating that way. People are going to tune out as more people come forward. :/ )

PTSD seems exaggerated to me as well, but then I don't actually know where the bar for PTSD is. /shrug

[Momo]

So who's next? Has that dude at disney kids /mickey mouse club that looks like a massive pedophile been outed yet?

[Dickie Dee]

The Toku Rule: if you had any clout in the 70s, 80s or 90s, you probably fucked a kid.

I refuse to believe bob ross wasn't a saint

Ross worked in the USAF for 20 years, and rose to the rank of a Master Drill Sergeant.

He was no saint; those happy little clouds was where he went to pay penance.

https://imgur.com/gallery/KO4aw

[agrajag]

Was Bob Ross part black or just Ted Dansoning it up?

[thisismyusername]

He got the perm before the show happened and people happened to like the perm, so he kept it despite absolutely hating it.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

i've had my crotch (and other areas) groped/fondled numerous times in gay bars, and a few times in reg bars without consent, and barely felt angry bout it. I always figured it was because the problematic power dynamics weren't there. I never felt threatened, and was able to indicate i wasn't into it.

There's a difference between getting grabbed by some random in a bar and getting grabbed by a rich, famous actor who can destroy your career and reputation. Like you said, it's about the abuse of power that makes this different.

[Rufus]

I can't imagine Bob Ross hating anything.

[Mupepe]

except gays in the military.  There's a drunk tape of him somewhere talking about how distracting and sexy they all are.

[toku]

[thisismyusername]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/danny-masterson-rape-accusations_us_59fa8410e4b01b474048242a

[Atramental]

Goddamn. so much RAPE. 

Now I'm longing for the time when beloved celebs were dying left and right.

[Steve Contra]

When I read Tony Montana saying he had PTSD for 6 months after facing off Kevin Spacey grabbing his crotch all i can manage is an eyeroll  I know why i have little empathy, and I don't think it's justified. Anyway.... One; these stories are appearing in my feed far more than objectively worse, more prolific, examples of rape accusations,  two; i've had my crotch (and other areas) groped/fondled numerous times in gay bars, and a few times in reg bars without consent, and barely felt angry bout it. I always figured it was because the problematic power dynamics weren't there. I never felt threatened, and was able to indicate i wasn't into it.

So yeah, idk, kinda frustrates me as it seems these dudes are getting more attention than more egregious acts because 'ew gays' and they're men complaining.

Read the whole story. Apparently after that Spacey blocked him into a bathroom, which is one of the textbook examples of how ptsd occurs.

[Mandark]

PTSD has become associated with military veterans in the public mind to the point where lots of people treat it as a synonym for shellshock.

I know women who have PTSD from child or domestic abuse who get blank stares or laughter when they bring it up. The trend of throwing around "triggered" as an insult is also super fucking helpful.

[Steve Contra]

Yep. Military service is actually number 3 on the list of what causes ptsd, the first being rape/sexual assault by orders of magnitude, and then car crashes.

[Boredfrom]

PTSD has become associated with military veterans in the public mind to the point where lots of people treat it as a synonym for shellshock.

I know women who have PTSD from child or domestic abuse who get blank stares or laughter when they bring it up. The trend of throwing around "triggered" as an insult is also super fucking helpful.

Im sure there is a segment of the population willing to help this people by not name dropping PTSD or demanding warnings at any opportunity in the internet.

[chronovore]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/01/dustin-hoffman-accused-of-sexual-harassment-against-17-year-old

Dustin Hoffman

Is it just me, or is this kind of dickery completely unsurprising? You hear stories about his eccentricity and arrogance, it makes sense that he'd feel entitled in front of his entourage. Again, I'm left wondering what I'd do if someone grabbed my daughter's ass four times, she hit him hard each time, clearly not having any of it. Chrono would have to choke out Little Big Man.

Goddamn. so much RAPE. 

Now I'm longing for the time when beloved celebs were dying left and right.

Saw a meme saying "2017: All your heroes are either dead or rapey."

[Boredfrom]

Well, Spacey is a pervert asshole. I suppose the deflection strategy was not effective.

[Momo]

Hyde is a rapist?   

[Momo]

So who's next? Has that dude at disney kids /mickey mouse club that looks like a massive pedophile been outed yet?

Remembered his name, Dan Schneider. He get got yet?

[Atramental]

I'm surprised nothing has come out yet about Dan Schneider. 



I mean... just look at this fucker.

[VomKriege]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brett-ratner-harassment-claims-warner-bros-is-reviewing-situation-1053686

Brett Ratner next, is there a list?

Not shocking, neither is the Hoffman stuff.

I'm mostly surprised that people are surprised that the 70's era of rock n' roll n' coke had quite a few going after jailbait. Thought this shit was well known by now. Every rockstar has fucked a 15 year old groupie in the 70's, same principle applies to movie stars.

I'm not defending any of these dudes and if they get their just deserts it'd be a long time coming, but I'm not going to act like my opinion of celebrities has changed when I like the work of some widely known problematic fucks already

Not really a response to anyone, just the sentiment that this is more pervasive than we've already known. It's just that nobody was doing anything about it till now, and jury's still out on that.

I don't disagree but I've seen people use it as an excuse too (with Polanski and the case he fled the US for) and beyond a certain point I won't accept the argument. Yeah the 60 and 70 were full of wild sex but still the concept of rape and statutory rape existed in law, it's not an ex-post facto construction being unfairly applied. Growing up in such of culture -for guys like Hoffman maybe and others of his generation- probably didn't help a lot with the long known nasty underbelly of Hollywood practices.

Anyway, I'm bummed about some of the names, though not much more than that because I don't idolize them no matter how major an artist and how moved I have been  by their work. The entertainement industry could do with a good culling of such practices even if it is only a dent in a deep rooted rotten culture with a long history. Don't mind if it means shattering many old icons.

[Mupepe]

I'm surprised nothing has come out yet about Dan Schneider. 

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I mean... just look at this fucker.

At the risk of sounding GAF'ish, profiling people this way is problematic.  It promotes an image of what we believe predators look like.  It's not just accusing people when we have no basis to do so, but it creates a public image of "Oh *insert actor* couldn't do that because he doesn't fit the profile I've created in my head!"

[benjipwns]

Shit is really hitting the fan with Bryan Singer too.

Remember everyone at certain places falling all over each other to blast the accuser and pick holes in his story last time because Singer made some of their beloved comic book movies.

Then he made X-Men: Apocalypse.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://wjla.com/news/entertainment/alec-baldwin-ive-bullied-women

[thisismyusername]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXtJ9aLgbuw/

 

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm surprised nothing has come out yet about Dan Schneider. 

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I mean... just look at this fucker.

At the risk of sounding GAF'ish, profiling people this way is problematic.  It promotes an image of what we believe predators look like.  It's not just accusing people when we have no basis to do so, but it creates a public image of "Oh *insert actor* couldn't do that because he doesn't fit the profile I've created in my head!"

yea breh....he's basically a known freak who has done shady shit for years

[eleuin]

Dan S is definitely a pedo

look up his comments/scenes on his actresses' feet

[thisismyusername]

I love how clueless folks are posting on my gay friends Facebook with "it's sad the public is throwing Spacey under the bus" to where I have to read them to filth and show them the evidence stacked against Spacey AND then curse them out about how Spacey's deflection is bad for said friend and I in terms of the community.

[Mandark]

It's a conspiracy. Spacey was about to buy NBC.

[naff]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-army-of-spies

some fuckin demonic shit

[Mupepe]

I'm surprised nothing has come out yet about Dan Schneider. 

(Image removed from quote.)

I mean... just look at this fucker.

At the risk of sounding GAF'ish, profiling people this way is problematic.  It promotes an image of what we believe predators look like.  It's not just accusing people when we have no basis to do so, but it creates a public image of "Oh *insert actor* couldn't do that because he doesn't fit the profile I've created in my head!"

yea breh....he's basically a known freak who has done shady shit for years

Dan S is definitely a pedo

look up his comments/scenes on his actresses' feet

Well then.  Nevermind.  I only saw homeboy saying "look at this guy!" and assumed it was based off the way he looks.

[chronovore]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/harvey-weinsteins-army-of-spies

some fuckin demonic shit

  That's seriously evil.

[nudemacusers]

Re: Dan  Schneider if you have that much money and still have a haircut like that you probably enjoy getting defecated on by 10 year olds

[VomKriege]

5 new women are coming with new accusations against Polanski, including some that were 15 at the time (in the seventies). Feminist associations protested in front of the French Cinémathèque where an exhibition and retrospective about the Polish filmmaker is held.

Expected, I heard first hand accounts of his attraction to young women. Not that it is a revelation, he said himself so and his affair with Kinski (then 15) was not secretive. Would have been a miracle he only overstepped that one time in LA...

[Mandark]

NYT article on Louis CK about to drop, movie premiere and talk show appearances cancelled.