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[Leadbelly]

haha out of my way losers, going to pay upfront for a lifetime subscription to quality ad-free forum content

You will now have the privilege to read high quality excelsioref posts, AD FREE! Imagine that.

The thought has occurred to me that this may complicate things when it comes to bans. You don't want to ban too many ERA Gold members now. If it is a temp ban, well, you are kind of denying them access to something they are paying a subscription for. And if it is a perm, you're essentially losing a percentage of your revenue. Don't want to do that too often. Also in terms of a perm, what happens if they have a yearly subscription? They basically lose their money? I imagine that would be the case.

[Leadbelly]

Yeah I always brought that up at GAF as to why charging would be complicated;  was especially bad at GAF because their default ban length seemed to start at an entire month (ridiculous.)  I got banned for 3 months once from GAF for basically not liking a song posted in a thread where an admin liked the song (I'm serious.) 

Resetera does much shorter bans for first timers for the most part (cue clothedmacuser whining) so it's a bit better, but it's still pretty sketchy especially for people who pay a year in advance.    There's precedent for being banned from paid services of course but I imagine you really need your legal i's dotted and t's crossed.

Of course it may lead to greater leniency from moderators which would ultimately be a good thing. Although, you could also see how it might lead to favouritism. They're more lenient, but only to Gold members.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

haha out of my way losers, going to pay upfront for a lifetime subscription to quality ad-free forum content

You will now have the privilege to read high quality excelsioref posts, AD FREE! Imagine that.

The thought has occurred to me that this may complicate things when it comes to bans. You don't want to ban too many ERA Gold members now. If it is a temp ban, well, you are kind of denying them access to something they are paying a subscription for. And if it is a perm, you're essentially losing a percentage of your revenue. Don't want to do that too often. Also in terms of a perm, what happens if they have a yearly subscription? They basically lose their money? I imagine that would be the case.

They're basically opening themselves up to to getting fucked by chargebacks since they're not holding up their end of the deal if they ban someone and make them unable to view the site without ads. If the admins were smart they'd stop banning people and instead just restrict their posting privileges. That way banned people can still view the forum 'ad free'.

[EightBitNate]

https://archive.is/v3Kvc

 

[agrajag]

Simple solution. Ban them but allow them to still read the forum ad free. I never understood the GAF policy of locking you out of the forum completely, forcing you to log out and delete your cookies to view the forum, seemed unnecessarily sadistic.

[agrajag]

Also, they should accept bribes to shorten ban times. Suckers like registeted sex offender Amir0x and Dennis would be all over that.

[Leadbelly]

haha out of my way losers, going to pay upfront for a lifetime subscription to quality ad-free forum content

You will now have the privilege to read high quality excelsioref posts, AD FREE! Imagine that.

The thought has occurred to me that this may complicate things when it comes to bans. You don't want to ban too many ERA Gold members now. If it is a temp ban, well, you are kind of denying them access to something they are paying a subscription for. And if it is a perm, you're essentially losing a percentage of your revenue. Don't want to do that too often. Also in terms of a perm, what happens if they have a yearly subscription? They basically lose their money? I imagine that would be the case.

They're basically opening themselves up to to getting fucked by chargebacks since they're not holding up their end of the deal if they ban someone and make them unable to view the site without ads. If the admins were smart they'd stop banning people and instead just restrict their posting privileges. That way banned people can still view the forum 'ad free'.

Yeah. I think if you get banned from PSN or Xbox Live, you will not receive any refund. However, it seems likely both Sony and Microsoft have dealt with some kind of legal challenge for it at some point. ResetEra isn't a huge corporation with the resources to deal with it.

[Nintex]

Well I think,

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[benjipwns]

Simple solution. Ban them but allow them to still read the forum ad free. I never understood the GAF policy of locking you out of the forum completely, forcing you to log out and delete your cookies to view the forum, seemed unnecessarily sadistic.

I think that was default vBulletin stuff, a lot of the dumb stuff people thought were deliberate/errors on GAF were this, like it locked you out so you would see the ban message. That "I understand" page thing is a way to turn off the ban message page. I'm pretty sure even the old vBulletin they were using allowed for this.

You didn't have to delete your cookies the last few years, one of the admins had fixed that. I think it was a legacy bug that GAF hadn't fixed with Evilore's prior haphazard update methods. Also new browsers handled it better, two sets of cookie instructions or something.

I'm also sure there was a way to make it so you could just not post, but still access subscribed threads, etc. even PMs. phpbb had this kind of flexible bans back in 2004 or so. One forum I setup like ten different layers of ban from blocking threads/pictures/avatars/etc. to not posting to losing all access. And you could easily have it so certain bans would outlast the others, I remember we banned one guy who was harassing mod makers in their threads and via PMs from using PMs for a year, but his overall forum ban was only like a week. I think one of our admins came up with way that we could make users think they still had PMs but it would just dump them all to a dummy forum account instead of actually sending but I don't know if we ever used it. There similarly was a ban that let you keep posting, but wouldn't show your posts to anyone else except the admins. I think that was intended as our ultimate punishment form of ban to trap the user in their own special form of hell.

The ban that arguably worked the best at changing behavior oddly was banning people from having their own avatar. Having their post count hidden was up there too. Forum users are the worst. I'm glad I just individually blog here on The Bore instead anymore.

[agrajag]

When I was little they used to suspend my dad's AOL account when I got banned for talking shit on forums. I don't remember if they canceled the monthly payments or not.

[Leadbelly]

The ban that arguably worked the best at changing behavior oddly was banning people from having their own avatar. Having their post count hidden was up there too. Forum users are the worst. I'm glad I just individually blog here on The Bore instead anymore.

Interesting that their post count was considered a badge of honour to them rather than a mark of shame. :p

I think that is the case. I imagine Excelsior is proud of the 8k posts she wrote in like a few months. I mean how many other forum members could keep up with that?

[benjipwns]

I've never minded HUELEN, xhe's fun. Especially after seeing the twitter account was all the same kind of content. GAF had that problem where they couldn't really handle people who were openly different and seriously so, it always had to be some kind of con or malicious intent.

The over the top freak out over Sonic's eyes was funny and most people took it that way I think, except mods maybe, it's hardly any worse than any of the other fanboy essays that get vomited up. I also don't think people understood the actual point of the rant and focused on the eye thing because it was silly.

Spending a year bashing Hillary on her campaigns fifth largest referrer was definitely the greater crime.

[etiolate]

I was proud of my low posts per day count despite the long time I had been at GAF. Some people had like 20 posts per day.

[benjipwns]

era clear logo looks like it's some kind of eye drop

$3.99 for one month supply, $39.99 for a years supply is a pretty good deal for eye drops i think

[etiolate]

I can't help but read it as, ERA: Going Clear

[Let's Cyber]

Remember that time Huelen detailed going on an all Twinkie diet to lose weight years ago and then blamed their brittle, rotting teeth on poor genetics?

Pepperidge Farm TheBore.com Remembers. Huelen is a national treasure.

[benjipwns]

I was proud of my low posts per day count despite the long time I had been at GAF. Some people had like 20 posts per day.

i had like 3 posts a day average or something, i'd make like 20 posts in a day and then not post for weeks

before i was banned i made a couple posts in here with some of the popular posters...these are from september 2016:

Slayven
Total Posts: 92,844 (21.61 posts per day)

adam387 (who was wiped after Hillary lost)
Join Date: 07-06-2014
Total Posts: 16,177 (20.09 posts per day)

Y2Kev
Join Date: 07-06-2005
Total Posts: 87,883 (21.48 posts per day)

B-Dubs
Join Date: 03-19-2012
Total Posts: 50,833 (30.93 posts per day)

Amir0x when he got arrested:

Join Date: 10-27-2004
Total Posts: 103,881 (22.45 posts per day)

Chumley in June 2017:

Join Date: 07-18-2016
Total Posts: 5,897 (17.20 posts per day)

May 2017 attempt at finding the most active posters at the time:

Total Posts: 22,829 (23.70 posts per day)
Find all posts by excelsiorlef

Total Posts: 109,851 (24.23 posts per day)
Find all posts by Slayven

Total Posts: 28,380 (26.32 posts per day)
Find all posts by Poodlestrike

Total Posts: 19,742 (27.04 posts per day)
Find all posts by Bronx-Man

Total Posts: 46,285 (28.69 posts per day)
Find all posts by More_Badass

Total Posts: 56,876 (30.28 posts per day)
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Total Posts: 42,689 (22.30 posts per day)
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[agrajag]

xhe's

 

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-nyt-posting-letters-from-trump-supporters.17570/

Jesus Christ

xcept that we literally get this news story weekly.
"These "poor" Trump voters got screwed over by Trump policies but they still love him"
Who
Gives
A
Shit

Where's the stories about families being ripped apart by ICE?
Where's the mountains of letters and stories on CHIP being sabotaged by Trump and the GOP?

We know, poor white people love to fuck themselves over. We all get it. Let's actually get some real news and opinions.

I’m pretty sure that the opinion section has different standards than the news and that NYT is one of the media outlets most critical on trump

[Leadbelly]

What is excelsiorlef's post average now? Seems like she was just finding her way back then. I feel like she understands her purpose now.

[benjipwns]

OP was clever in posting a Salon article rather than the actual NYT link and then selectively quoting, that way nobody has to see what the NYT put at the very top of the section explaining why it exists:

The Times editorial board has been sharply critical of the Trump presidency, on grounds of policy and personal conduct. Not all readers have been persuaded. In the spirit of open debate, and in hopes of helping readers who agree with us better understand the views of those who don’t, we wanted to let Mr. Trump’s supporters make their best case for him as the first year of his presidency approaches its close. We have also published some letters from readers who voted for Mr. Trump but are now disillusioned, and from those reacting to these letters and our decision to provide Trump voters this platform.

[etiolate]

Bob Chipman approves

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/953775244208205824

[benjipwns]

What is excelsiorlef's post average now? Seems like she was just finding her way back then. I feel like she understands her purpose now.

Somebody posted ResetERA top ten poster stats but they refuse to update us with the latest ones despite the people demanding it!

This lack of community outreach almost makes me not want to pay for ERA CLEAR.

[Boredfrom]

Bob Chipman approves

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/953775244208205824

“Now let me explain you why The Last Jedi is awesome and don’t forget to buy my Super Mario wankfest book”

he New York Times, is the "reputable" arm of the Murdoch/Fox news(propaganda) machine. It should be taken with a great grain of salt. Typically, the reporters and their pieces are decent, but anything that is an Opinion column is a fluff piece for the GOP and Trump.

Lately, they've been caught throwing sources under the bus, killing stories, and pushing more opinion pieces as news.

The reputable NYT of the past is dead.

MOTHERFUCKERS ARE THIS DUMB?

 

[Leadbelly]

What is excelsiorlef's post average now? Seems like she was just finding her way back then. I feel like she understands her purpose now.

Somebody posted ResetERA top ten poster stats but they refuse to update us with the latest ones despite the people demanding it!

This lack of community outreach almost makes me not want to pay for ERA CLEAR.

Yeah. We need an update.

[agrajag]

Here's the question of the day:

Would they buy Nintendo cardboard robots if the cardboard was made of recycled bodies of nazi trump supporters?

[Boredfrom]

The same New York Times that said Aziz is only guilty of not being a mind reader?

I’m not surprised.

THEY PUBLISHED THE ARTICLE THAT TOOK DOWN WEINSTEIN YOU DUMBASS POSSER!

[Leadbelly]

Stop treating these people like people.
-Adolf Hitler Bob Chipmunk

[etiolate]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/3505125/

Adventure Time avatar? yup

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Bob Chipman approves

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/953775244208205824

I'm not sure what's worse here: Bob's tweet or the people who look up to a man who sucks off mediocre comic book movies for his political opinions.

The same New York Times that said Aziz is only guilty of not being a mind reader?

I’m not surprised.

THEY PUBLISHED THE ARTICLE THAT TOOK DOWN WEINSTEIN YOU DUMBASS POSSER!

And they even had an OP ed saying that Aziz was in the wrong the same day.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/opinion/aziz-ansari-metoo-sex.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion

[etiolate]

I want to say that nobody paid attention to Bob until he decided to be a political virtue signal all-star. I'm not into the film review thing though so I am probably out of the loop. I only recently found RLM because of Bobby's rants.

[Boredfrom]

Bob Chipman approves

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/953775244208205824

I'm not sure what's worse here: Bob's tweet or the people who look up to a man who sucks off mediocre comic book movies for his political opinions.

The same New York Times that said Aziz is only guilty of not being a mind reader?

I’m not surprised.

THEY PUBLISHED THE ARTICLE THAT TOOK DOWN WEINSTEIN YOU DUMBASS POSSER!

And they even had an OP ed saying that Aziz was in the wrong the same day.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/17/opinion/aziz-ansari-metoo-sex.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion

Doesn’t matter (from the same guy that said “They are scum because Azis” when called out )

Doesn’t change anything about them allowing these articles on their site

[Broseidon]

What is excelsiorlef's post average now? Seems like she was just finding her way back then. I feel like she understands her purpose now.

cba figuring it out

[Uncle]

Put a little fucking effort into your image macros jesus christ

[Boredfrom]

I want to say that nobody paid attention to Bob until he decided to be a political virtue signal all-star. I'm not into the film review thing though so I am probably out of the loop. I only recently found RLM because of Bobby's rants.

He had bad rep way before that.

[benjipwns]

Lately, they've been caught throwing sources under the bus, killing stories, and pushing more opinion pieces as news.

Lately? This is the paper that reluctantly admitted in the mid 2000s that they may have downplayed The Holocaust a bit much because they were afraid of the political fallout/were cooperating with political interests to do so/etc.. Which came just a few years after their Soviet propaganda publishing as reporting.

Hell, even ResetERA's kiddos should be able to look up the papers role in Iraq. Or its long history of reporting incongruities regarding people/assets that hold stakes in The New York Times Company. (Something that ironically was found to be less against the paper's policies than the WSJ's rather strict ones. As the WSJ knew its reporting had impact on the markets so the goal was to minimize their own role in any story. Amusingly, the NYT for years denied they had such an impact through their reporting.)

It's funny that their big picture take away is that it's been captured by the alt-right gamergater movement rather than this being an honest attempt by editorial to try and connect their readership with the opinions of people they literally don't believe can actually exist. So as to better inform their opposition to Trump.

[Leadbelly]

What is excelsiorlef's post average now? Seems like she was just finding her way back then. I feel like she understands her purpose now.

(Image removed from quote.)

cba figuring it out

How long has Reset been up? About 3 months?

Roughly 87 posts a day.

[benjipwns]

(Image removed from quote.)

cba figuring it out

7844/86 (which includes today which still has plenty of hours for her to post) = 91.2 posts per day
 

[Rufus]

More posts than I've got on my GAF account (registered Sep '06)...

[Bore Expert]

Amirox is probably gonna be going down more often than Gaf during E3

 

[Leadbelly]

Excelsiorlef has reached her true form. Although maybe I am underestimating her. Maybe she is just getting started.

[benjipwns]

It's not just ResetERA, but I've seen it increasingly on the internet where people can't separate authors and individuals from larger collective institutions. Except for their unsigned Editorials, everything opinion-wise the NYT publishes has a name attached. It's that persons views, not the NYT's which are only officially stated in the unsigned editorials. This is similar throughout journalism.

Even games journalism you get people going "oh IGN gave [score to game] so ignore this" while IGN has probably thousands of reviewers over its history, that was why stuff like "so God of War > Killzone 2?!?" was banned on GAF, it ignored that it was potentially two different reviewers...now many games magazines had editorial score deciding or checking, and early on games sites did too Jeff has talked about this regarding Gamespot, and CGW regularly described their joint score evaluating system, but the rush to get reviews up first probably killed that off ages ago.

My personal favorite is this regularly happens on reason, they publish the entire magazine's articles all on the same day, so you could have articles that go up in the same hour that say "we should avoid war with Iran", "we should go to war with Iran" and "we should all convert to Shia Islam" and you always see comments attacking reason's inconsistency and WHAT IS REASONS POSITION ON THIS?!? Sometimes they'll just post news stories and you'll get "OH SO NOW REASON SUPPORTS THIS?" when it's a straight up news article on the subject. This reached an amazing level of enduring mythology when it was continually reported that "reason voted for Obama" because in their 2008 and 2012 election issues, of the 40+ people interviewed (from editors to columnists to "famous" libertarians to so on), two said they were voting for Obama (one because the LP was not on the ballot) and one said he hoped Obama beat McCain but wasn't voting, all in 2008...and only the latter two were actually employed by reason in any capacity during any point in their lives.

[Boredfrom]

Benji, they are perfectly capable of separating others from collective groups as long is something they like or are part of it.

Speaking of that:

You can describe a good chunk of the racists out there like this, honestly. Never rampant, but somehow remaining uneducated and uninformed no matter how many people try to educate or inform them and with no ambition to improve.

[HardcoreRetro]

God of War > Killzone 2 though.

[Uncle]

Benji, they are perfectly capable of separating others from collective groups as long is something they like or are part of it.

Speaking of that:

You can describe a good chunk of the racists out there like this, honestly. Never rampant, but somehow remaining uneducated and uninformed no matter how many people try to educate or inform them and with no ambition to improve.

no matter how many people try to educate or inform them and with no ambition to improve

Every time this concept is brought up there are 50 people chiming in to say they would never even attempt to try with these people.

And every post with nice stories about the people who DO sit down with them and listen to them and manage to help change their thinking gets booed and downplayed and locked because apparently ain't nobody got time for that.

[Boredfrom]

I actually want you to discuss and break down the platitude of “we should listen to both sides”. It’s easy to say that and then just walk away. This is a specific thread and you specifically said left leaning people had something to learn from these letters. So I’m asking you what is it that I need to learn here that I didn’t know before. It’s a simple question that you should have an answer for if you have a valid point.

Pon asking for a mind reader.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I literally cancelled my NYT subscription over this.

The constant stream of "let's hear from the same pool of Trump voters" articles is tiring, but it's especially galling when there hasn't been a single such profile on Ralph Northam voters, Doug Jones voters, black women voters -- literally any kind of voter other than 2016 Donald Trump voters. The disproportionate spotlight on them isn't just bad reporting, it's fetishistic, and I'm beyond exhausted of it.

Excelsiorlef has reached her true form. Although maybe I am underestimating her. Maybe she is just getting started.

She won't be able to achieve her final form until she gets her US citizenship.

[HardcoreRetro]

I never understood why gaf/era started to get angry at the God of War games. Have they read Greek Mythology? (< Is this one of those questionable question marks?)

[Nintex]

YOu are all RacIsTS!1
https://www.resetera.com/threads/house-passes-short-term-spending-bill-setting-up-shutdown-battle-in-senate.17419/page-4#post-3505607

Actually misterASSUMING GENDERS?, that is not true
https://www.resetera.com/threads/house-passes-short-term-spending-bill-setting-up-shutdown-battle-in-senate.17419/page-4#post-3505707

But that's ok, you can just call everybody racist, because you are a racist and you are a racist, Racists for everybody Oprah 2020

[Raist]

And where's the yellow list!?

[Tasty]

Huelen's ban for the Sonic green eyes thing wasn't even about what color eyes he should have. I think people have muddied the waters there.

The discussion started there because Sonic 4 was being hyped as a sequel to Sonic 3&K, but for all intents and purposes was a hastily thrown-together piece of shit using the Rush engine. Sonic Mania handled this entire situation in the correct way for the record, sprites are awesome, the classic Sonic character designs are great, and Sonic 4 looked more plasticky than New Super Mario Bros. (which is saying something.)

What netted Huelen the ban was completely missing the point of the convo and took it upon themself to prove that Sonic in Sonic 4 had green eyes. When... that was never in question. The image "proving" this was bordering on creepy and had no relevance to the actual conversation at the time, thus permaban.

[Nintex]

I never understood why gaf/era started to get angry at the God of War games. Have they read Greek Mythology? (< Is this one of those questionable question marks?)

My feeling was that it was more about David Jaffe being a potty mouth than it had to do with the games.
Also these are the sort of people that want to tear down statues. Greek Mythology is probably highly sexist, toxic and nazi. Especially nazi.

[benjipwns]

But HUELEN came back to help the Russians defeat Hillary...

And the fact that you know so much about this Sonic Affair raises many questions as well...

[Tasty]

But HUELEN came back to help the Russians defeat Hillary...

And the fact that you know so much about this Sonic Affair raises many questions as well...

I was holding out hope Sonic 4 would be good and was hanging around in the threads at the time. Actually, the Sonic Unleashed leak is what got me to join GAF, despite me not ever really being much of a Sonic fan.

[Boredfrom]

I never understood why gaf/era started to get angry at the God of War games. Have they read Greek Mythology? (< Is this one of those questionable question marks?)

My feeling was that it was more about David Jaffe being a potty mouth than it had to do with the games.
Also these are the sort of people that want to tear down statues. Greek Mythology is probably highly sexist, toxic and nazi. Especially nazi.

Nah, that is Isis. ResGaf will just bitch about problematic paintings in museums.

[benjipwns]

I was holding out hope Sonic 4 would be good and was hanging around in the threads at the time. Actually, the Sonic Unleashed leak is what got me to join GAF, despite me not ever really being much of a Sonic fan.

don't admit that

that's like when we found out you were gay just because wraith has been peer pressuring you into it for his enjoyment

[Tasty]

Actually I think what prompted Huelen's "investigation" was a bunch of us clowning around and swearing that his eyes were blue or black or some shit in screenshots. So we got proven wrong there, I guess...?

Either way Huelen misread something major.

[Tasty]

I was holding out hope Sonic 4 would be good and was hanging around in the threads at the time. Actually, the Sonic Unleashed leak is what got me to join GAF, despite me not ever really being much of a Sonic fan.

don't admit that

that's like when we found out you were gay just because wraith has been peer pressuring you into it for his enjoyment

Wrath's pressure

[HardcoreRetro]

Greek Mythology is probably highly sexist, toxic and nazi. Especially nazi.

The story of Procne is about her sister getting raped by her husband. She then kills their own kid and feeds him to her husband at a feast.

[Nintex]

Greek Mythology is probably highly sexist, toxic and nazi. Especially nazi.

The story of Procne is about her sister getting raped by her husband. She then kills their own kid and feeds him to her husband at a feast.

So basically just another Tuesday night in Hollywood.