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« Reply #6720 on: December 14, 2017, 04:56:59 PM »
I don't see what the problem is with Disney being "the nostalgia company". They buy up properties you loved as a kid and then repackage them to you as an adult. You're a sad adult that wants to feel young again, so you buy their shit.

Seems like a good business model.

Exactly. And if this means Hugh Jackman in the MCU (since he wanted to do that) along with Ryan Renyold's Deadpool going with Spider-man? Hell yes, thank you Disney for buying Fox and stopping the Marvel war on X-men.

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« Reply #6721 on: December 14, 2017, 04:57:01 PM »
Being critical of Islam is reasonable. The problem is that Sam Harris is more than that as he is critical of Arabs in general to the point of using cruel methodology on entire areas that aren't even wholly, 100% muslim. It's about race with Harris.

Can you give me a specific example?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/03/sam-harris-muslim-animus

Pretty good summary.
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« Reply #6722 on: December 14, 2017, 05:02:20 PM »
Being critical of Islam is reasonable. The problem is that Sam Harris is more than that as he is critical of Arabs in general to the point of using cruel methodology on entire areas that aren't even wholly, 100% muslim. It's about race with Harris.

Can you give me a specific example?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/03/sam-harris-muslim-animus

Pretty good summary.

Glenn Greenwald lol

Sam Harris and Glenn Greenwald have some real beef. I don't have the time to go through this, I will come back to it.

Listen to this first:

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« Reply #6723 on: December 14, 2017, 05:05:03 PM »
"I don't have time for this, also you should dedicate the next two hours of your life to listening to this dingus you don't like"

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« Reply #6724 on: December 14, 2017, 05:09:56 PM »
The link contains pretty good arguments and quotations and reasons to think Harris is a racist shit heel. Even if you disagree with the conclusion, it's reasonable to at least respect why someone would think that about Harris.

Sam Harris is pro-torture. I am not pro-torture. I think torturing muslims is heinous and morally wrong on top of being a complete disrespect to life. The methods that Harris and his ilk are for have been shown to not only flat out not work, but also work counter-productively to their own aims of lowering terrorism. I am not listening to that video. I have had enough smart dumb Sam Harris in my ears and eyes for a life time, much less two more hours of it. I answered your question. The least you can do is read the link that was provided.
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« Reply #6725 on: December 14, 2017, 05:23:08 PM »
Also Sam harris talks about religion in that video? Sam Harris talking about religion is the last thing I want to submit myself to. I don't want to lose any brain cells. Sam Harris is one of the last atheists on Earth I could ever come to respect. He and Dawkins and Hitchens represent everything I abhor about new atheism, even when I was an atheist. Why you think I would want to listen to two hours of that dumbass drone about politics and religion is anyone's guess. I contend that Harris and his buddies would be destroyed by a second or third year philosophy major. It's no surprise that they tend to not go after experts in their field, but reactionary fundamentalists. And when they do go outside of their little, small ass bubble and go toe to toe with people with actual brains, such as Noam Chomsky, they're always out of their depth. Always. Showing that Harris and his buddies are ipso facto mindless, regurgatory, ass cracks. Camus they are not.

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« Reply #6726 on: December 14, 2017, 05:28:32 PM »
Greenwald suffers from the bigotry of low expectations in that article. He says it's not a case exceptionalism for Islam, but the case he makes is exceptionalism for Islam.

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The key point is that Harris does far, far more than voice criticisms of Islam as part of a general critique of religion. He has repeatedly made clear that he thinks Islam is uniquely threatening: "While the other major world religions have been fertile sources of intolerance, it is clear that the doctrine of Islam poses unique problems for the emergence of a global civilization." He has insisted that there are unique dangers from Muslims possessing nuclear weapons, as opposed to nice western Christians (the only ones to ever use them) or those kind Israeli Jews: "It should be of particular concern to us that the beliefs of devout Muslims pose a special problem for nuclear deterrence." In his 2005 "End of Faith", he claimed that "Islam, more than any other religion human beings have devised, has all the makings of a thoroughgoing cult of death."

This is not a critique of religion generally; it is a relentless effort to depict Islam as the supreme threat.

Is Islam more fucked up than the rest? That's the question. I put forth the Nuclear War argument. It's a sensible argument. It's not racist. We aren't murdering people for drawing cartoons of Jesus. Perhaps that mentality would apply to something like nukes?

These are the standards reached by nations touched by Christianity. To not apply them to Islamic faiths is some form of patronizing exceptionalism. Greenwald needs to be more honest and stop acting like poor brown people can't handle it.

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« Reply #6727 on: December 14, 2017, 05:49:30 PM »
So either you like to get shit on or like watching people shit on each other. Got it.

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« Reply #6728 on: December 14, 2017, 05:56:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2138712/

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Yes but that's not the government's job. Government do more harm than good. History has shown that all, I repeat all mass suffering, hunger, death and misery were caused by government.

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« Reply #6729 on: December 14, 2017, 06:10:56 PM »
If I were a consultant advising Evilore, I'd tell him to rebrand GAF as an alt-right gaming haven. I know 4chan supplies a lot of that niche, but I'd bet he could get enough users to keep paying the bills.

But what would Hillary do?


I thought you were a man of principles.

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« Reply #6730 on: December 14, 2017, 06:32:49 PM »
I mean sure it's cool that we might get Galactus and Dr. Doom done justice(MCU's track record with villains means probably not, though) and we might see the X-Men actually dressed up as the X-Men but that shit is small compared to everything about this deal.

Fox is a notoriously shitty studio, nobody is stanning them, but why the hell would anyone want Disney to own most of entertainment unless they're jizzwailing shills? oh my god I made a Star Wars reference, have to clap now.

Really, though. All these dorks are thinking about is more MCU. What we see is another avenue in an already oversaturated and uncreative industry bought out by possibly the most notorious franchise milker out there and these fuckers are gobbling it up.

Agreed, you know these folks are cooked when legitimate criticisms of The Last Jedi (saw it yesterday in Aus) are outright downplayed and treated as the rantings of "lore fanboys".

It's a comparatively weak film partly because (non-plot related):
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its obsession with injecting Marvel's approach to humour and quips undermines most moments of drama.
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« Reply #6731 on: December 14, 2017, 06:37:15 PM »
"I don't have time for this, also you should dedicate the next two hours of your life to listening to this dingus you don't like"

I have other things to do.

Do you think I picked that video at random? He starts by speaking about Glenn Greenwald. In fact he mentions this very article in this video and explains why it is false. That's why I said listen to it. It is very relevant.

I will read the article in a minute, but in the mean time, you might, you know, listen to what Sam Harris says in his own words. I think he could like explain better than me don't you think?

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« Reply #6732 on: December 14, 2017, 06:41:58 PM »
OMG CUM. GOING TO CUM. NERD CUM. SPIDER-MAN AND MR. FANTASTIC AND IRON MAN IN THE SAME MOVIE EVEN THOUGH DISNEY PRACTICALLY NOW OWNS ALMOST ALL VISUAL MEDIA. CUM. CUM. CUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. I'm a nerd taco. CUM.

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« Reply #6733 on: December 14, 2017, 06:51:18 PM »
Meh, the first thing that popped into my head about the Disney merger was "cool, we will get to see Spider-Man and X-Men together!" You gotta look at the silver lining sometimes. And while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates, Disney is an entertainment company and buying other entertainment companies in its interest within boundaries of the law, is not really the same as the government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests. Like I am way more mad at the FCC for letting Comcast do what it wants than Comcast doing what they want. The end goal of every corporation is to make more money.

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« Reply #6734 on: December 14, 2017, 06:53:36 PM »
If I were a consultant advising Evilore, I'd tell him to rebrand GAF as an alt-right gaming haven. I know 4chan supplies a lot of that niche, but I'd bet he could get enough users to keep paying the bills.
If you were a paid consultant to Evilore and your advice was anything other than cash out and shut the place down, you should be fired.
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« Reply #6735 on: December 14, 2017, 06:55:38 PM »
disney please buy halo  :preach

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« Reply #6736 on: December 14, 2017, 07:03:12 PM »
"I don't have time for this, also you should dedicate the next two hours of your life to listening to this dingus you don't like"
This sort of thing always pissed me off at GAF and I assume it's happening at Reset too.

"Educate yourself" *5 Amazon book links*

No, fuck off, this is just some internet banter.  I don't need to start from a baseline of literally everything you've read on the subject.  If I'm wrong then say how in your own words.

What they're really saying is "I want the last word on the subject and the conversation will have moved on by the time you've read my links."


Or you go back later after reading/watching their shit to tell them why you still disagree.  "Oh, I guess there's no helping you then."  Great, I wasted all that time listening to flawed arguments just for you to bail?

There's a time and a place for going deeper into a subject to be able to engage better.  Forums are not one of them.
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« Reply #6737 on: December 14, 2017, 07:10:31 PM »
 
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    who's saying multiple times? I believe what crime you do that should be done to you, et al. Basically steal an item your hands are cut off, rape then your privates are cut off/ruined, etc.

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« Reply #6738 on: December 14, 2017, 07:14:23 PM »
And while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates, Disney is an entertainment company and buying other entertainment companies in its interest within boundaries of the law, is not really the same as the government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests.

:lol

Both are related because both are about corporate power.

You literally went from:

"while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates"

to

"government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests."

In the end, corporations win and control a little more. Same shit, different ball game. But yeah, go on about how excited you are about fruity super heroes as a "silver lining." And this is why I fucking hate nerds.
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« Reply #6739 on: December 14, 2017, 07:19:16 PM »
Meh, can't be arsed to care about how there's conglomeration in my entertainment industry where every other industry I deal with has already conglomerated in to a handful of companies. It's a bit like being "Wait, a second, you're telling me that smoking is bad for you?" in 2017

The ship sailed long ago.
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« Reply #6740 on: December 14, 2017, 07:22:12 PM »
That level of apathy is fine and wholly American. My problem is when people are actually excited about the shit because of their fucking comic book movies. It disgusts me. And if you can be excited for that, surely you shouldn't find the FCC ruling much of a downer. Anything else is outright hypocrisy.
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« Reply #6741 on: December 14, 2017, 07:26:44 PM »
That level of apathy is fine and wholly American. My problem is when people are actually excited about the shit because of their fucking comic book movies. It disgusts me.
To be fair, this is actually one of the congolmerations that will give the consumers a little bit of what they want along with the mountain of shit that comes with conglomeration. But in other buy outs all they get is the mountain of shit. So I can get why some people are ok with it. :trumps
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« Reply #6742 on: December 14, 2017, 08:09:48 PM »
I will read the article in a minute, but in the mean time, you might, you know, listen to what Sam Harris says in his own words. I think he could like explain better than me don't you think?
Not gonna read the article or watch that video, but when I see an article with update, I always skip straight to those and what's quoted there are presumably his own words, too. Lopping back to the start of this, those seem pretty fucking incriminating in regards to the Islamophobia accusation. /shrug

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« Reply #6743 on: December 14, 2017, 08:11:15 PM »
Okay lets start with the obvious:
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Given that I had never written about Sam Harris, I found it odd that I had become the symbol of Harris-bashing for some of his faithful followers. Tweeting a link to an Al Jazeera column about Harris and saying I find one of his quotes revealing does not make me responsible for every claim in that column. I tweet literally thousands of columns and articles for people to read. I'm responsible for what I say, not for every sentence in every article to which I link on Twitter. The space constraints of Twitter have made this precept a basic convention of the medium: tweeting a link to a column or article or re-tweeting it does not mean you endorse all of it (or even any of it).

Notice how while tweeting this article he also then distances himself from this article. It is because Hussain basically smeared Sam throughout it. The Hussain article is basically slander. I could go into that but then I would be responding to two completely different articles, so I am just going to stick to this one.

I will mention however that the quote Glenn chose from the article is out of context.

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"the people who speak most sensibly about the threat that Islam poses to Europe are actually fascists."

He actually then went on to say:
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To say that this does not bode well for liberalism is an understatement: It does not bode well for the future of civilization.

to present the quote the way both Hussain and Greenwald did was deeply dishonest. They were presenting sam as siding with Fascists, when he wasn't doing that at all. To the contrary, he found it alarming as the rest of what he wrote shows. The actual point Sam was making was that the way Liberals were silent on Islam or Islamism and attacking those who dare speak out about it, inadvertantly ceded the ground to fascists who are actually making more sense on this issue. He didn't see this as a good thing, he saw it as a danger.

Now i must say, this article goes on about a whole lot of nothing that is irrelevant to what Sam harris has actually said.

This is where he actually starts to speak about his issues with Sam Harris. Again, there is a whole bunch of quotes that do not take into account at all the argument actually being made by Sam.
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The key point is that Harris does far, far more than voice criticisms of Islam as part of a general critique of religion. He has repeatedly made clear that he thinks Islam is uniquely threatening: "While the other major world religions have been fertile sources of intolerance, it is clear that the doctrine of Islam poses unique problems for the emergence of a global civilization." He has insisted that there are unique dangers from Muslims possessing nuclear weapons, as opposed to nice western Christians (the only ones to ever use them) or those kind Israeli Jews: "It should be of particular concern to us that the beliefs of devout Muslims pose a special problem for nuclear deterrence." In his 2005 "End of Faith", he claimed that "Islam, more than any other religion human beings have devised, has all the makings of a thoroughgoing cult of death."

I will chime in on the argument that Islam is uniquely threatening. It is uniquely threatening because of the way it sees martyrdom and Jihad as a means of achieving salvation. It's true that a lot of Muslims see things like 'Jihad' as just an inner struggle, but there are also plenty of Muslims that don't.

You know, it's interesting. Some Muslim apologists have mentioned that suicide is forbidden in Islam, so what groups like Isis or Al-Qaeda are doing is unIslamic. It is not actually quite so simple as that. You see, these people don't actually consider it 'suicide bombing' that is a western term for it, they see it as 'martyrdom'. The question is, is that interpretation of martyrdom plausible? Not that it is the only interpretation simply whether it is a plausible interpretation. And the answer it seems is yes.

I remember reading an article actually titled, "Suicide attacks are un-Islamic" by Mehdi Hasan. There is one small problem with this article however:

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Modern Islamic scholars have equivocated on this issue for too long. Even the so-called moderates of the Muslim world, such as the Sunni cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi and the Shia ayatollah Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, who have been outspoken in their criticisms of al-Qaeda and who denounced the 11 September suicide attacks, are also on record supporting the use of "human bombs" in a Palestinian context.
https://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2009/11/mehdi-hasan--islam-suicide

If you even have 'moderate' Muslim clerics that say it is sometimes justified, well that is kind of a problem. Doesn't that give credence to the idea that it is a plausible interpretation?

And the truth is, no, not all religions are exactly equal. Christianity sure has had a bloody past, but aspects of it fortunately made it malleable enough for liberal values to take hold in Europe. For example, "He who is without sin throw the first stone" Is an argument for tolerance when you think about it. What's more, if you go to the Old Testament you will see a passage where it says the punishment for adultery is death. In other words, the fact that Jesus ignored a specific Jewish law, or at least the punishment for violating that law, allows you to make the argument for not following those practices.

In the Koran unfortunately it is not so simple. Muhammad was not Jesus. Muhammad was a warlord who expanded Islam by the sword.

Not all muslims follow Islam the same way of course, but concepts like Jihad and Martyrdom, while they are interpreted by a number of Muslims in a more benign way, can also be interpreted in the more extreme way and does throughout the Muslim world also. What's more, the life of Muhammed helps to give the more extreme way credence. It is this aspect of Islam that is unique to Islam.

You know, I was going to comment on other things, but I have written far too much already, so I will leave it at that for now.
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« Reply #6744 on: December 14, 2017, 08:24:11 PM »
If I were a consultant advising Evilore, I'd tell him to rebrand GAF as an alt-right gaming haven. I know 4chan supplies a lot of that niche, but I'd bet he could get enough users to keep paying the bills.
If you were a paid consultant to Evilore and your advice was anything other than cash out and shut the place down, you should be fired.

Not sure he can cash out at this point. What assets does he even have to liquidate? Some shitty servers? A domain name that's worth shit at this point running outdated forum software? The userbase was the monetizeable asset. Maybe he could get low five figures by selling the domain and pay his Austin rent for another year, but that's probably a best case scenario.

Really he should have cashed out a couple years ago when he had that seven figure offer on the table. Barring that, building some kind of new userbase is his only hope to actually make money again, and alt-right gamers are an under-served market right now.
Well, yeah the moment there was a 7 figure offer he should've gotten out. Thing is to build a new user base is expensive and takes time.  Better to sell it some schmuck that thinks he can turn it around under new management and have some liquidity to do something else.
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« Reply #6745 on: December 14, 2017, 08:24:47 PM »
Didn't read, LOL.

Well, someone was going on about me not commenting but instead posting a 2 hour video, so... and this sort of comment is why I decided to stop where I did.

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« Reply #6746 on: December 14, 2017, 08:26:16 PM »
Didn't read, LOL.

Well, someone was going on about me not commenting but instead posting a 2 hour video, so...
Didn't read.
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« Reply #6747 on: December 14, 2017, 08:51:00 PM »
I will read the article in a minute, but in the mean time, you might, you know, listen to what Sam Harris says in his own words. I think he could like explain better than me don't you think?
Not gonna read the article or watch that video, but when I see an article with update, I always skip straight to those and what's quoted there are presumably his own words, too. Lopping back to the start of this, those seem pretty fucking incriminating in regards to the Islamophobia accusation. /shrug

Actually I am curious about this. Do you mean the profiling quote?
It comes from this article:https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/in-defense-of-profiling
In which he says this:
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Although I don’t think I look like a jihadi, or like a man pretending not to be one, I do not mean to suggest that a person like me should be exempt from scrutiny. But other travelers fit the profile far less than I do. One glance at these innocents reveals that they are no more likely to be terrorists than walruses in disguise. I make it a point to notice such people while queuing for security at the airport, just to see what sort of treatment they receive at the hands of the TSA.

Basically the profiling he suggested included him.

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« Reply #6748 on: December 14, 2017, 08:57:34 PM »
I will read the article in a minute, but in the mean time, you might, you know, listen to what Sam Harris says in his own words. I think he could like explain better than me don't you think?
Not gonna read the article or watch that video, but when I see an article with update, I always skip straight to those and what's quoted there are presumably his own words, too. Lopping back to the start of this, those seem pretty fucking incriminating in regards to the Islamophobia accusation. /shrug

Actually I am curious about this. Do you mean the profiling quote?
It comes from this article:https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/in-defense-of-profiling
In which he says this:
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Although I don’t think I look like a jihadi, or like a man pretending not to be one, I do not mean to suggest that a person like me should be exempt from scrutiny. But other travelers fit the profile far less than I do. One glance at these innocents reveals that they are no more likely to be terrorists than walruses in disguise. I make it a point to notice such people while queuing for security at the airport, just to see what sort of treatment they receive at the hands of the TSA.

Basically the profiling he suggested included him.
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We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim, and we should be honest about it. And, again, I wouldn’t put someone who looks like me entirely outside the bull’s-eye (after all, what would Adam Gadahn look like if he cleaned himself up?) But there are people who do not stand a chance of being jihadists, and TSA screeners can know this at a glance.

Needless to say, a devout Muslim should be free to show up at the airport dressed like Osama bin Laden, and his wives should be free to wear burqas. But if their goal is simply to travel safely and efficiently, wouldn’t they, too, want a system that notices people like themselves? At a minimum, wouldn’t they want a system that anti-profiles—applying the minimum of attention to people who obviously pose no threat?
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He's arguing for more focused profiling of Muslims.

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« Reply #6749 on: December 14, 2017, 09:03:19 PM »
I will read the article in a minute, but in the mean time, you might, you know, listen to what Sam Harris says in his own words. I think he could like explain better than me don't you think?
Not gonna read the article or watch that video, but when I see an article with update, I always skip straight to those and what's quoted there are presumably his own words, too. Lopping back to the start of this, those seem pretty fucking incriminating in regards to the Islamophobia accusation. /shrug

Actually I am curious about this. Do you mean the profiling quote?
It comes from this article:https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/in-defense-of-profiling
In which he says this:
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Although I don’t think I look like a jihadi, or like a man pretending not to be one, I do not mean to suggest that a person like me should be exempt from scrutiny. But other travelers fit the profile far less than I do. One glance at these innocents reveals that they are no more likely to be terrorists than walruses in disguise. I make it a point to notice such people while queuing for security at the airport, just to see what sort of treatment they receive at the hands of the TSA.

Basically the profiling he suggested included him.
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We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim, and we should be honest about it. And, again, I wouldn’t put someone who looks like me entirely outside the bull’s-eye (after all, what would Adam Gadahn look like if he cleaned himself up?) But there are people who do not stand a chance of being jihadists, and TSA screeners can know this at a glance.
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He's arguing for more focused profiling of Muslims.

He mentions this also:

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When I speak of profiling “Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim,” I am not narrowly focused on people with dark skin. In fact, I included myself in the description of the type of person I think should be profiled (twice). To say that ethnicity, gender, age, nationality, dress, traveling companions, behavior in the terminal, and other outward appearances offer no indication of a person’s beliefs or terrorist potential is either quite crazy or totally dishonest. It is the charm of political correctness that it blends these sins against reasonableness so seamlessly. We are paying a very high price for this obscurantism—and the price could grow much higher in an instant. We have limited resources, and every moment spent searching a woman like the one pictured above, or the children seen in the linked videos, is a moment in which someone or something else goes unobserved.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6750 on: December 14, 2017, 09:06:34 PM »
Yeah, I read that too. Not sure what you're trying to say by quoting it, though. Do you disagree with my assertion, or the title of the article?

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« Reply #6751 on: December 14, 2017, 09:10:09 PM »
Sam is dumb. If the TSA makes it their policy not to search sweet little blonde white children, the terrorists are just going to start taping their bombs to sweet little blonde white children.

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« Reply #6752 on: December 14, 2017, 09:11:58 PM »
Yeah, I read that too. Not sure what you're trying to say by quoting it, though. Do you disagree with my assertion, or the title of the article?

Depends what you think it shows. If ou thought it was proof for example (not saying you do think that) that Sam is a racist and a Islamophobe?it is one thing to disagree about profiling(I think it actually does go on in the US in reality) and another to suggest he is a racist and an Islamophobe for making that argument.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6753 on: December 14, 2017, 09:12:10 PM »
If I were a consultant advising Evilore, I'd tell him to rebrand GAF as an alt-right gaming haven. I know 4chan supplies a lot of that niche, but I'd bet he could get enough users to keep paying the bills.
If you were a paid consultant to Evilore and your advice was anything other than cash out and shut the place down, you should be fired.

Not sure he can cash out at this point. What assets does he even have to liquidate? Some shitty servers? A domain name that's worth shit at this point running outdated forum software? The userbase was the monetizeable asset. Maybe he could get low five figures by selling the domain and pay his Austin rent for another year, but that's probably a best case scenario.

Really he should have cashed out a couple years ago when he had that seven figure offer on the table. Barring that, building some kind of new userbase is his only hope to actually make money again, and alt-right gamers are an under-served market right now.

I took a look at the metrics for some benchmarking tools I have through work on neogaf and it looks like traffic is down like 30% in the last month. When I’m off mobile I’ll do some longer timelines just to see.

Sadly resetera is not available in the tool yet, so I can’t compare.

Neogaf still has a couple hundred thousand unique users per week, I’m sure that has some value.

Leadbelly

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6754 on: December 14, 2017, 09:17:35 PM »
Sam is dumb. If the TSA makes it their policy not to search sweet little blonde white children, the terrorists are just going to start taping their bombs to sweet little blonde white children.

The US profile anyway.





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« Reply #6755 on: December 14, 2017, 09:18:56 PM »
And while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates, Disney is an entertainment company and buying other entertainment companies in its interest within boundaries of the law, is not really the same as the government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests.

:lol

Both are related because both are about corporate power.

You literally went from:

"while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates"

to

"government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests."

In the end, corporations win and control a little more. Same shit, different ball game. But yeah, go on about how excited you are about fruity super heroes as a "silver lining." And this is why I fucking hate nerds.

You're frustrating. My post made it clear that I am more concerned about corruption in the government than corporations trying to do what their basic purpose is (expand, grow, make the shareholders a lot of money).

agrajag

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« Reply #6756 on: December 14, 2017, 09:21:40 PM »
I find it hard to believe that GAF gets thousands of unique hits a month. At times it seems like it's actually slower than the Bore, the ultimate underachiever forum

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« Reply #6757 on: December 14, 2017, 09:24:32 PM »
I find it hard to believe that GAF gets thousands of unique hits a month. At times it seems like it's actually slower than the Bore, the ultimate underachiever forum

Well GAF gets hits from loads of people just searching Google for crap; the majority of a web site like that's traffic is not from "posters."  However less posts will eventually hurt their SEO, and have less stuff for people to find.

That makes sense. Which what made disabling his OT backlog for a while so baffling.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6758 on: December 14, 2017, 09:24:42 PM »
Since content is down 95% those visitors won't last long. Also, yes, it's possible to permatarnish a brand.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6759 on: December 14, 2017, 09:33:16 PM »
And while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates, Disney is an entertainment company and buying other entertainment companies in its interest within boundaries of the law, is not really the same as the government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests.

:lol

Both are related because both are about corporate power.

You literally went from:

"while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates"

to

"government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests."

In the end, corporations win and control a little more. Same shit, different ball game. But yeah, go on about how excited you are about fruity super heroes as a "silver lining." And this is why I fucking hate nerds.

You're frustrating. My post made it clear that I am more concerned about corruption in the government than corporations trying to do what their basic purpose is (expand, grow, make the shareholders a lot of money).

Corruptions in the government?

Are you daft? That "corruption in the government" is done so that corporations can profit. Which falls squarely into "what their basic purpose is". Corporations buying the FCC out via lobbying so they upcharge users and kills net neutrality isn't that much different than buying every corporation imaginable and gaining unified power.

This is about corporate power. Equating Disney buying Fox to "this is what businesses are supposed to do" is batshit distinguished mentally-challenged and the fact you cannot connect these and think they're entirely separate issues is mind numbing.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6760 on: December 14, 2017, 09:41:02 PM »
And while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates, Disney is an entertainment company and buying other entertainment companies in its interest within boundaries of the law, is not really the same as the government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests.

:lol

Both are related because both are about corporate power.

You literally went from:

"while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates"

to

"government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests."

In the end, corporations win and control a little more. Same shit, different ball game. But yeah, go on about how excited you are about fruity super heroes as a "silver lining." And this is why I fucking hate nerds.

You're frustrating. My post made it clear that I am more concerned about corruption in the government than corporations trying to do what their basic purpose is (expand, grow, make the shareholders a lot of money).

Corruptions in the government?

Are you daft? That "corruption in the government" is done so that corporations can profit. Which falls squarely into "what their basic purpose is". Corporations buying the FCC out via lobbying so they upcharge users and kills net neutrality isn't that much different than buying every corporation imaginable and gaining unified power.

This is about corporate power. Equating Disney buying Fox to "this is what businesses are supposed to do" is batshit distinguished mentally-challenged and the fact you cannot connect these and think they're entirely separate issues is mind numbing.

No, you're just foaming at the mouth too much to comprehend what I'm saying. But go ahead, continue your reeeing.


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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6762 on: December 14, 2017, 09:44:33 PM »
Brehs just make a fucking Sam Harris thread, this is the thread for making fun of RE and GAF or whatever other board you find dumb shit on

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« Reply #6763 on: December 14, 2017, 09:46:20 PM »
And while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates, Disney is an entertainment company and buying other entertainment companies in its interest within boundaries of the law, is not really the same as the government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests.

:lol

Both are related because both are about corporate power.

You literally went from:

"while I'm not to keen on monopolies and consolidation of media conglomerates"

to

"government repealing regulations in favor of corporate interests."

In the end, corporations win and control a little more. Same shit, different ball game. But yeah, go on about how excited you are about fruity super heroes as a "silver lining." And this is why I fucking hate nerds.

You're frustrating. My post made it clear that I am more concerned about corruption in the government than corporations trying to do what their basic purpose is (expand, grow, make the shareholders a lot of money).

Corruptions in the government?

Are you daft? That "corruption in the government" is done so that corporations can profit. Which falls squarely into "what their basic purpose is". Corporations buying the FCC out via lobbying so they upcharge users and kills net neutrality isn't that much different than buying every corporation imaginable and gaining unified power.

This is about corporate power. Equating Disney buying Fox to "this is what businesses are supposed to do" is batshit distinguished mentally-challenged and the fact you cannot connect these and think they're entirely separate issues is mind numbing.

No, you're just foaming at the mouth too much to comprehend what I'm saying. But go ahead, continue your reeeing.

:lol

Enjoy your nerd faggotry i guess.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6764 on: December 14, 2017, 09:47:54 PM »
 :lol

You're precious.

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« Reply #6765 on: December 14, 2017, 09:53:49 PM »
:lol

Enjoy your nerd faggotry i guess.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6766 on: December 14, 2017, 10:22:56 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/move-over-cuck-it-is-time-for-soyboy.10937/page-9#post-2145562
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aint nothing courageous about shit.
how come the best the left can do is friggin "cumtown" for god sakes?
thats counter culture really?
no wonder yall fell off becoming marvels willing corporate slaves

NOVID WITH THE FIYAH  :preach

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« Reply #6767 on: December 14, 2017, 10:25:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/move-over-cuck-it-is-time-for-soyboy.10937/page-9#post-2145562
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aint nothing courageous about shit.
how come the best the left can do is friggin "cumtown" for god sakes?
thats counter culture really?
no wonder yall fell off becoming marvels willing corporate slaves

NOVID WITH THE FIYAH  :preach

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This whole post modern altright bullshit is just that bullshit and doesnt really matter in the swing of history.
we all gonna die.
period.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6768 on: December 14, 2017, 10:27:39 PM »
Stop arguing you dipsticks, or take it to the US politics thread, that way I wont ever see it :goldberg

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« Reply #6769 on: December 14, 2017, 10:34:01 PM »
Nothing better reading people call Sam Harris a racist and then quote him out of context.

You people need to stop sucking Glen Greenwalds balls for a second. Stop reading twitter quotes like they're legit views on complex matters. No wonder some of you enjoy reseterra.

Sometimes resettera distinguished mentally-challenged fellow mentality bleeds over.   :snoop
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« Reply #6770 on: December 14, 2017, 10:35:26 PM »
Novid, go on cumtown

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« Reply #6771 on: December 14, 2017, 10:41:40 PM »
No, novid, come back to us, your family.
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6772 on: December 14, 2017, 10:42:06 PM »
Sam is dumb. If the TSA makes it their policy not to search sweet little blonde white children, the terrorists are just going to start taping their bombs to sweet little blonde white children.
You're not serious, are you?

The best airport security practices in place in other countries profile the fuck out of people.

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« Reply #6773 on: December 14, 2017, 10:43:59 PM »
Novid / Creepy Stalker 2020

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« Reply #6774 on: December 14, 2017, 10:58:50 PM »
Creepy Stalker/Creepy Stalker 2020
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« Reply #6775 on: December 14, 2017, 11:00:08 PM »
Novid / Creepy Stalker 2020

Perfect. I'll probably have killed myself by then. I'm all for it.
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« Reply #6776 on: December 14, 2017, 11:00:52 PM »
Sam is dumb. If the TSA makes it their policy not to search sweet little blonde white children, the terrorists are just going to start taping their bombs to sweet little blonde white children.
You're not serious, are you?

The best airport security practices in place in other countries profile the fuck out of people.

TAS is basically Soviet-tier bureaucracy/nanny state nonsense. Every time they do studies, it's something absurd like 80% of weapons get through, including guns/knives/explosives. Effectively, it's completely useless other than supplying menial jobs and an illusion of security. You're not any safer post-TSA than pre-9/11 when you could actually bring blades and lighters on planes.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6777 on: December 14, 2017, 11:05:03 PM »
novid launching a psy-op on resetera makes me feel bad for the mods, and also for whoever novid's Russian handler is
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This whole post modern altright bullshit is just that bullshit and doesnt really matter in the swing of history.
we all gonna die.
period.
lol
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« Reply #6778 on: December 14, 2017, 11:34:55 PM »
Something about millennials bitching about how they have ruined their life brings me joy.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2150766/
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Despite being $500k in debt from student loans since 2015, I made my first loan payment this month because I applied for the income based repayment program. I’m not exactly sure what the long term consequences are for doing this since I’ve never found a good explanation of it. But this was my only option because otherwise they wanted me to pay $4200 a month for 10 years

I mean, WTF were you thinking spending half a million on college?  $4200/month?

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #6779 on: December 15, 2017, 12:47:07 AM »
Overspending on college is sort of smart.

Income based repayment forgives the rest if you stay current for 20 years. Devos almost fucked with the formula, but the outrage was too high, so it is still in place.