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[thisismyusername]

Valhalla Nights was never going to survive the Rowling thread.

Christ, the OP (poster not unexpected) wants to lay bombs on Rowling for liking something in a tweet.

And the argument was well maybe she didn't read the entire article (as that piece was at the end), or maybe a like wasn't an agreement, etc... And maybe that could have been argued, maybe she did deserve the benefit of the doubt.

But this one:

https://twitter.com/shonfaye/status/976470639790915585

I get why Rowling would like that one. Even if I don't necessarily agree with the whole message, certain segments of LGBT do get preferential treatment from the "broscolist" sect. I wouldn't necessarily say it's "transphobic" just because she liked some elements of a message speaking as/to a cis-woman.

I'm totally ignoring the Tweet'ers possibility of harassment and sticking with just the tweet itself.

[clothedmacuser]

It's a bit weird that there don't seem to be any outspoken trans men around, then again no one seems to give a fuck about which bathroom they use.

there was that one a couple years ago that got pregnant from the UK or whatever, and relatively few people actually freaked out about it and they went away

I just recall everyone being pissed once they found out he was trans.

 

We all wanted a Junior situation



lol, emma thompson.

[benjipwns]

wow, that vahalla nights ban might be one of the GOAT: https://www.resetera.com/posts/5896797/

User Banned (Duration Pending): Repeatedly claiming moral authority over transgender issues, disingenuously playing the victim, and setting the terms for discussion surrounding marginalized groups.

[clothedmacuser]

excel jr. here.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/5902849/

The tweet is transphobic.

This must be what it feels like when someone gaslights you.  They just keep saying "you are wrong," or asserting things without explaining anything.

[Huff]

I like this because of the amazing opening shot combined with this being an official preview from TLC. They open with tha goodz.

they should give everyone on this show a peaceful death. its what i would want

[benjipwns]

What's going on with Dumbledore?

Well, picture a woman who makes her work progressive post-completion, pats herself on the back for it rousingly, and then is forced to actually write in those progressive themes.

Do you A) Shut up and do it, or B) Act as if it's irrelevant and ignore it quietly

No prizes for guessing correctly.

lol like it was all Rowling doing the backpatting for that rather than probably these same dorks before they got truly woke

[kingv]

Excel is so annoying because at one point in her life she had a taste of that sweet male privelege and so she’s accustomed to everyone putting up with her whiney bullshit

It's a bit weird that there don't seem to be any outspoken trans men around, then again no one seems to give a fuck about which bathroom they use.

It's definitely different, but also trans men pass like a motherfucker. There's tons of boyish looking men in real life, so I don't know that they have that much to get mad about, really.

Also, there doesn't seem as much drive among trans men to be accepted "As men". Also, what dude is going to complain about having to go use the women's restroom?!

[Cream]

Excel is so annoying because at one point in her life she had a taste of that sweet male privelege and so she’s accustomed to everyone putting up with her whiney bullshit

It's a bit weird that there don't seem to be any outspoken trans men around, then again no one seems to give a fuck about which bathroom they use.

It's definitely different, but also trans men pass like a motherfucker. There's tons of boyish looking men in real life, so I don't know that they have that much to get mad about, really.

Also, there doesn't seem as much drive among trans men to be accepted "As men". Also, what dude is going to complain about having to go use the women's restroom?!

 You don’t know what you’re talking about transmen absolutely struggle and desire to be taken seriously as men

[thisismyusername]

I wouldn't think anybody that high-profile person in the YA literary world would consciously attach themselves to that tweet.

I mean Rowling is a hardcore liberal (or conservative, I don't really follow her to really know 100%) but at the same time has conservative leanings given her "made myself rich" along with hard-line females-aren't-taken-seriously opinions (which I don't blame her on that later part for). It's been known for ages. So I don't get why people are suddenly surprised simply because she made Dumbledore gay that she's all 100% sunshine and rainbows.

Excel is so annoying because at one point in her life she had a taste of that sweet male privelege and so she’s accustomed to everyone putting up with her whiney bullshit

It's a bit weird that there don't seem to be any outspoken trans men around, then again no one seems to give a fuck about which bathroom they use.

It's definitely different, but also trans men pass like a motherfucker. There's tons of boyish looking men in real life, so I don't know that they have that much to get mad about, really.

Also, there doesn't seem as much drive among trans men to be accepted "As men". Also, what dude is going to complain about having to go use the women's restroom?!

 You don’t know what you’re talking about transmen absolutely struggle and desire to be taken seriously as men

Please do expand on this as a non-crazy Cindi. I don't have a lot of trans people in my life (despite knowing a few gay/straight folks that have them in their family). So I wouldn't honestly know the struggles of FTM or MTF.

[benjipwns]

Don't have heroes.

Except dead ones.

Like Bob Ross, Fred Rogers, or Abraham Lincoln. All fine heroes.

FDR, Einstein, Hawking's....

JK sounds like a lot of people who end up making a ton of money when they had none before, it can really make you shitty and kill any empathy you had for others.

wait until they find out what Lincoln and FDR thought, wrote and said about...well anyone who wasn't a rich white male

and what Fred Rogers used to do to those Vietnamese boys

[thisismyusername]

Real talk though: If you're following Rowling (or anyone else) and don't unfollow them over their politics, you should expect to know what you're getting and accepting of it.

Like: I follow William Gibson and he's super-liberal and posts about US Politics despite being American-Canadian (moved there in the 1960's IIRC?), so if you know that background on the author and their views/etc. it's not hard to see why Gibson (and others) would post about social healthcare/etc.

[benjipwns]

I mean Rowling is a hardcore liberal (or conservative, I don't really follow her to really know 100%) but at the same time has conservative leanings given her "made myself rich" along with hard-line females-aren't-taken-seriously opinions (which I don't blame her on that later part for). It's been known for ages. So I don't get why people are suddenly surprised simply because she made Dumbledore gay that she's all 100% sunshine and rainbows.

She's said lots of stuff over the years, including that she's a socialist, but she's really New Labour*. Which is more or less the same thing as our Democratic Party especially once you account for pre-existing differences from the 1980s and earlier between the two systems.

She's taken shots at Donald Trump on twitter, but who hasn't at this point? Me, for one. True story.

*Actually she's a Gordon Brown acolyte/groupee back to the 1990s apparently, which is like being a Clinton groupee imo. Rich people who like people who produce "policy papers" and use all the right talking points at global shindigs.

[railGUN]

You're upset because you're good people as far as I've seen and you weren't treated that way or given a fair shot from what you describe. I have a little experience with that too, as it happens.

Come on home and stay as long as you'd like here. Every good poster who participates in discussions here does that much more to rebuild a solid foundation for years to come that we can all appreciate the end results of.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/the-current-state-of-discussion.1461180/page-3#post-253218522

 

[Tasty]

All JK needs to do is put in a hot Jude Law gay sex scene in Fantastic Beasts 2 or 3 and everyone will be back on her side.

Me definitely included.

[thisismyusername]

I mean Rowling is a hardcore liberal (or conservative, I don't really follow her to really know 100%) but at the same time has conservative leanings given her "made myself rich" along with hard-line females-aren't-taken-seriously opinions (which I don't blame her on that later part for). It's been known for ages. So I don't get why people are suddenly surprised simply because she made Dumbledore gay that she's all 100% sunshine and rainbows.

She's said lots of stuff over the years, including that she's a socialist, but she's really New Labour*. Which is more or less the same thing as our Democratic Party especially once you account for pre-existing differences from the 1980s and earlier between the two systems.

She's taken shots at Donald Trump on twitter, but who hasn't at this point? Me, for one. True story.

*Actually she's a Gordon Brown acolyte/groupee back to the 1990s apparently, which is like being a Clinton groupee imo. Rich people who like people who produce "policy papers" and use all the right talking points at global shindigs.

I don't know the UK terms for her politics, but yeah. She's "democrat-leaning" but has some conservative tendencies. Some of that may be upbringing, some of that may be experience, some of that may be just her making it big after being on literal welfare due to Harry Potter's success.

Either way, she's not going to be 100% progressive, so I don't get why people are so shocked that she isn't 100% on board with the LGBT agenda(s).

[benjipwns]

Not this one?
User banned (1 week): downplaying transphobia

I disagree. I think you're cherry-picking your facts to support a staunch belief that she is transphobic.

Blame her for liking the tweet, I won't argue with you there. But asserting that she is transphobic based on that tweet is nonsense. It says more about her dislike for elements of the Labour party than her hate for trans people.

 He's basically just saying that she might not necessarily be transphobic for a certain reasoning, but says you can blame her for liking the tweet.

 Like, where in the fuck are they downplaying transphobia 

The same logic happened earlier:

Are you basically advocating that it's ok to be racist in private? 'Cause it sure as hell does read like it.

Yes I do. Not in a sense that it's moral thing to do, but in a sense that it's a right that every person holds.

User Banned (Duration Pending): Advocating racism
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5880368/

Having a right to your own subjective conscious experience in 2018 

Better is that the ban suggests they confuse not criminalizing something as the same thing as advocating in favor for it. ("Not in a sense that it's moral thing to do, but in a sense that it's a right" = "Advocating racism.")

Similar to drug warriors, fundamentalist homophobes, etc.

[Tasty]

I mean Rowling is a hardcore liberal (or conservative, I don't really follow her to really know 100%) but at the same time has conservative leanings given her "made myself rich" along with hard-line females-aren't-taken-seriously opinions (which I don't blame her on that later part for). It's been known for ages. So I don't get why people are suddenly surprised simply because she made Dumbledore gay that she's all 100% sunshine and rainbows.

She's said lots of stuff over the years, including that she's a socialist, but she's really New Labour*. Which is more or less the same thing as our Democratic Party especially once you account for pre-existing differences from the 1980s and earlier between the two systems.

She's taken shots at Donald Trump on twitter, but who hasn't at this point? Me, for one. True story.

*Actually she's a Gordon Brown acolyte/groupee back to the 1990s apparently, which is like being a Clinton groupee imo. Rich people who like people who produce "policy papers" and use all the right talking points at global shindigs.

I don't know the UK terms for her politics, but yeah. She's "democrat-leaning" but has some conservative tendencies. Some of that may be upbringing, some of that may be experience, some of that may be just her making it big after being on literal welfare due to Harry Potter's success.

Either way, she's not going to be 100% progressive, so I don't get why people are so shocked that she isn't 100% on board with the LGBT agenda(s).

Liberal purity tests, that's why.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm guessing Rowling is a TERF right. I understand some of their arguments. Trans women usually grow up with the privilege that comes with the perception of being male, they don't really know what it's like to grow up as a woman etc. Not to mention the issue of lesbians having no interest in women with male genitals, and the "problematic" nature of that. On the flip side they have some pretty distinguished mentally-challenged and offensive views on trans people being predators looking to exploit the system to abuse real women. Trans women aren't really out here abusing anyone, brehettes.


I get why women might feel upset or threatened by a male-looking trans woman taking a shower with her. But still.

[Assimilate]

a big reason i can't stand a ton of these fucking people is because they come up with these stupid acronyms to make it easier to lob it at people.

"you're being a TERF"

that's when someone should get punched in the mouth. say yeah i'm a terf and then BAM, to the face.  some people simply need to get knocked the fuck out, it's the only way.

I get why women might feel upset or threatened by a male-looking trans woman taking a shower with her. But still.

Stitch a cock to your forehead and then demand people sit across the dinner table from you. If they don't, they're bigots.

[benjipwns]

The English Commonwealth politics all lean slightly to sometimes quite far socially conservative to where we'd expect a similar political spot based on all their other positions in the U.S.

In Canada, for example, both the NDP and Liberals have struggled with "prairie socialists" who want to nationalize everything that moves and also lock up the gays and ban all immigrants. Labour in the UK has similar pockets of "social conservatism" though part of that is the ideology of Toryism in general that dominates commonwealth politics.

American social conservatism has always been a populist, more grassroots thing, where the elites became elites because of their views/positions (i.e. megachurches) rather than being long time social elites which Toryism is based around.

Rowling and others like her are less "trans are godless heathens!" firebreathers than they are tut-tutting at how uncouth it is. Not gone through the proper channels it hasn't.

Canadian political scientists sometimes talk about this whole Tory elite notion as what's saved their nation from becoming an anarchic hellscape like exists everywhere to the south (and in Quebec) in the Western Hemisphere.

[benjipwns]

that's when someone should get punched in the mouth. say yeah i'm a terf and then BAM, to the face.  some people simply need to get knocked the fuck out, it's the only way.

Look Assimilate agrees with many trans-activists!

[Assimilate]

that's when someone should get punched in the mouth. say yeah i'm a terf and then BAM, to the face.  some people simply need to get knocked the fuck out, it's the only way.

Look Assimilate agrees with many trans-activists!

Really? There's transwomen out there swinging ? I gotta see that 

[benjipwns]

random google link for example: http://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/09/21/terf-isnt-slur-hate-speech/

Men with large platforms who are publicly associated with Antifa and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) have amplified the “punch TERFs” and “TERFs get the guillotine” message proudly, with the support of their comrades.

TERFS GET THE WALL

[seagrams hotsauce]

At least they're not getting Ummagumma

[Assimilate]

random google link for example: http://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/09/21/terf-isnt-slur-hate-speech/

Men with large platforms who are publicly associated with Antifa and groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) have amplified the “punch TERFs” and “TERFs get the guillotine” message proudly, with the support of their comrades.

TERFS GET THE WALL

Exactly what you'd expect. Skinny little online dudes being tough against 60 year old women 

[Momo]

Real talk though: If you're following Rowling (or anyone else) and don't unfollow them over their politics, you should expect to know what you're getting and accepting of it.

I've unfollowed a bunch of donks for going on tirades about politics, I follow indie musicians, sportsmen and mostly entertainment folk, think I want to hear your shit ideas about politics in a country I dont even live in? Even worse, why would I continue to follow a BRITISH musician that goes on tirades about US politics? Had to unfollow a donk who's music I like quite a bit recently over this

[etiolate]

I'm guessing Rowling is a TERF right. I understand some of their arguments. Trans women usually grow up with the privilege that comes with the perception of being male, they don't really know what it's like to grow up as a woman etc. Not to mention the issue of lesbians having no interest in women with male genitals, and the "problematic" nature of that. On the flip side they have some pretty distinguished mentally-challenged and offensive views on trans people being predators looking to exploit the system to abuse real women. Trans women aren't really out here abusing anyone, brehettes.


I get why women might feel upset or threatened by a male-looking trans woman taking a shower with her. But still.

yah but still fuck rape victims amirite

you have no idea whats going on in your own god damned brain

[seagrams hotsauce]

you constant fall back to that shit whenever you don't have shit else to say. "you don't understand" "you just don't get it" "you don't have the galaxy brain it takes to comprehend this" get a new song bitch

[etiolate]

I get shit that you don't. No whining will fix that for you.

"YOU YOU YOU KEEP SAYING I DON'T GET IT"

right

and the audience at home knows it too

[seagrams hotsauce]

you don't though. you're just another sophistic blowhard who vastly overestimates his own intellect. you're a fuckin' mark who jumps at any con thrown your way cuz you're dumb as shit

[Assimilate]

you don't though. you're just another sophistic blowhard who vastly overestimates his own intellect. you're a fuckin' mark who jumps at any con thrown your way cuz you're dumb as shit

I've never seen you say anything remotely interesting in here, either that i agree with or don't. But with a beak like that you really don't have to

    Mr Beaks.
 

[Momo]

stealing toku's format

Small Brain: annoying etiolate because you dont understand what he's on about
World Brain: debating etiolate on merit and annoying him
Galaxy Brain: understanding etiolate and misrepresenting his points to annoy him
Cosmic Brain: not even trying and just agitating on sight

[I'm a Puppy!]

TERFs =

[etiolate]

etiolate brain: they all die alone in their own wading pool of piss *shrug*

[I'm a Puppy!]

Reading all of etoilet's posts in Shrek's voice.

[clothedmacuser]

you constant fall back to that shit whenever you don't have shit else to say. "you don't understand" "you just don't get it" "you don't have the galaxy brain it takes to comprehend this" get a new song bitch

Excelciorif and etioliate are made for eachother.  They would hate fuck each other on sight.

[team filler]

the return of beak talk in posts 

[agrajag]

the return of beak talk in posts 

I think Cream may be interested in beaking

[Momo]

the return of beak talk in posts 

I'm just going to assume this is about Donald duck sexfics.

[benjipwns]

as the resident expert, jack, do you think i would even make it through the account queue?

i could probably get back on NeoGAF.com and never get banned since there's no threads to post in

[team filler]

the return of beak talk in posts 

I'm just going to assume this is about Donald duck sexfics.

why is seagrams called mr beaks, the world may never know

[Momo]

We should all go back to neogaf and post strange threads and be positive and enthusiastic about it, things like smearing liver paste on your face and see if people go along as they are trained to.

[benjipwns]

is there a my 600lb life thread there?

[curly]

and the audience at home knows it too

the amazing thing is that you believe this despite all the evidence pointing in the opposite direction

[I'm a Puppy!]

is there a my 600lb life thread there?

Besada doesn't post here anymore Benji.

[etiolate]

you aren't the audience gutterbitch

[kingv]

is there a my 600lb life thread there?

Besada doesn't post here anymore Benji.

 

[benjipwns]

How were your PoliGAF interactions with Cerium?

avoided that weirdo robot

half the mods they've run through thought i was a troll and a good chunk of the posters never believed i actually held libertarian/anarchist views that it's just some shtick, and pigeon apparently seems to think i've gone off the deep end into the alt-right for some reason

also besada and bobby warned them about my hate machine months ago so i assume there's some kind of list

plus the mods read this thread so

i was more wondering if the admins just wave people through, and then the instant you post someone realizes you're there and takes action

[jorma]

I don't think TERF's are transphobic, really. They just hate men so much that they aren't going to let one get away and escape the culling by transforming into a woman.

[seagrams hotsauce]

the return of beak talk in posts 

I'm just going to assume this is about Donald duck sexfics.

why is seagrams called mr beaks, the world may never know

is assy stalking me again? dude is legit distinguished mentally-challenged

[curly]

you aren't the audience gutterbitch

who in this forum of roughly 50 people is your secret audience of acolytes

[thisismyusername]

WTF is TERF?

Edit: Google "Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist." Because all Cis-bodied women that don't think Trans people are disadvantaged are somehow "exclusionary."

[Raist]

Why can’t teh sex be like this for us?

https://gizmodo.com/first-ever-footage-of-anglerfish-mating-is-as-horrifyin-1823998345

Obligatory http://theoatmeal.com/comics/angler

WTF is TERF?

Feminists who don't like trans people very much.

[seagrams hotsauce]

you aren't the audience gutterbitch

who in this forum of roughly 50 people is your secret audience of acolytes

intellectual titans like optimus and assimilate, duh

[benjipwns]

Just register with a different name and see how long it takes for them to identify you.

Normally I’d never advocate using an alt, but this seems like a decent time to do it.

You know like fifteen minutes into posting I'm going to say something about John Tyler and the whole thing falls apart.

The real reason to make an alt would be to see how fast you could be made a moderator all while continuously escalating things into madness. Though the latter seems to be what Resettlement Advisers are tasked with.

[team filler]

you aren't the audience gutterbitch

who in this forum of roughly 50 people is your secret audience of acolytes

[benjipwns]

you aren't the audience gutterbitch

who in this forum of roughly 50 people is your secret audience of acolytes

you're forgetting the print subscribers

[team filler]

the return of beak talk in posts 

I'm just going to assume this is about Donald duck sexfics.

why is seagrams called mr beaks, the world may never know

is assy stalking me again? dude is legit distinguished mentally-challenged

do you really got a beak? 

[benjipwns]

i had heard of TERF before, but i really learned its MEANING in a thread where some feminist that Mumei adored was revealed as one and they like temporarily broke

ha, remember when a crazy social issue thread was Devo (filler pls) and Mumei posting in it, and ShadowMod was more of a joke than an actual thing that besada decided needed to curate the forums users (which it has, into resetera, and he's not even posting there in the perfect society he created, sad)

we were so young and nubile and innocent

[curly]

WTF is TERF?

Edit: Google "Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist." Because all Cis-bodied women that don't think Trans people are disadvantaged are somehow "exclusionary."

Pretty sure the exclusionary part is literal, as in they exclude transwomen from the category of woman