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« Reply #16140 on: June 25, 2018, 06:43:30 AM »
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I wonder if some of the biggest personalities in the industry will discuss Chloe and the harassment she received. Or maybe they will just nominate another loud voice of GG and online harassment as trending gamer of the year.

What a shame. Anyway, I hope they stop giving meaningless videogame awards to youtubers!!

Almost every post in that thread is basically 50% this.

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« Reply #16141 on: June 25, 2018, 06:55:17 AM »
LOL if you think Ree actually gives a shit.  They’ll never pass up an opportunity to get assmad about something, even if they know they are 100% wrong.
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« Reply #16142 on: June 25, 2018, 07:04:23 AM »
Honestly even though self-immolation seems like an extremely painful act of self-abnegation, if you consider the fact that the nerve ending would be seared pretty much instantly, and the shock the body would go into, it's not that bad of a way to go out.

Anyway she's in a better place now

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These comics are awesome.   First time seeing this stuff.

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« Reply #16143 on: June 25, 2018, 07:33:26 AM »
It seems like everyone in her life got sick of her mental breakdowns and abandoned her. It's sad, but the kiwifarms thread had nothing to do with it. It hadn't even been posted in for 6+ months prior to the suicide.

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« Reply #16144 on: June 25, 2018, 08:11:01 AM »
These comics are awesome.   First time seeing this stuff.

Yeah man they are OG. They won tons of awards while they were active. David Hellman who draws the comics did the artwork for Braid. Before he redid the visuals to give it that "airy oil painting"-artstyle the game was pretty indistinct.

And the way Dale Beral writing bounces between light and thoughtful, to morbid and depressing (but still funny)... webcomic was irreplaceable, and like all amazing art, too good to keep in perpetuation

http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=12
http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=37


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« Reply #16145 on: June 25, 2018, 08:31:06 AM »
These comics are awesome.   First time seeing this stuff.

Yeah man they are OG. They won tons of awards while they were active. David Hellman who draws the comics did the artwork for Braid. Before he redid the visuals to give it that "airy oil painting"-artstyle the game was pretty indistinct.

And the way Dale Beral writing bounces between light and thoughtful, to morbid and depressing (but still funny)... webcomic was irreplaceable, and like all amazing art, too good to keep in perpetuation

http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=12
http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=37

http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=28
http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=36

 :lol

Although I can't figure this one out for the life of me: http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=41
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« Reply #16146 on: June 25, 2018, 09:13:18 AM »
Honestly even though self-immolation seems like an extremely painful act of self-abnegation, if you consider the fact that the nerve ending would be seared pretty much instantly, and the shock the body would go into, it's not that bad of a way to go out.

Anyway she's in a better place now

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Still... of all the ways you could kill yourself, setting myself on fire would be well down the list. Quite literally a high octane way to go.

I am always surprised by the methods in which people kill themselves. A lot of people jump off tall buildings for instance. It strikes me as an extremely visceral and high adrenaline pumping act. Isn't staring death in the face enough? Why make it as violent and stressful as possible?


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« Reply #16147 on: June 25, 2018, 09:13:51 AM »
Although I can't figure this one out for the life of me: http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=41

Continuation of this comic:

http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=39

Pretty much about the futility in seeking out a prophet to solve problems. There's probably an even deeper meaning I don't get though

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« Reply #16148 on: June 25, 2018, 09:31:01 AM »
Honestly even though self-immolation seems like an extremely painful act of self-abnegation, if you consider the fact that the nerve ending would be seared pretty much instantly, and the shock the body would go into, it's not that bad of a way to go out.

Anyway she's in a better place now

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Still... of all the ways you could kill yourself, setting myself on fire would be well down the list. Quite literally a high octane way to go.

I am always surprised by the methods in which people kill themselves. A lot of people jump off tall buildings for instance. It strikes me as an extremely visceral and high adrenaline pumping act. Isn't staring death in the face enough? Why make it as violent and stressful as possible?

Well with being a jumper, there's a few aspects. 1: it's cheap, you don't have to own a gun or even rope. 2: unless you survive the fall, the act is painless. 3: once you commit, that's it. If you're afraid you'll have second thoughts and wind up in a hospital with slit wrists, jumping removes that chance.

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« Reply #16149 on: June 25, 2018, 09:38:48 AM »
Although I can't figure this one out for the life of me: http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=41

Continuation of this comic:

http://www.alessonislearned.com/index.php?comic=39

Pretty much about the futility in seeking out a prophet to solve problems. There's probably an even deeper meaning I don't get though

Ohhhh hahahaha

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« Reply #16151 on: June 25, 2018, 09:46:09 AM »
Honestly even though self-immolation seems like an extremely painful act of self-abnegation, if you consider the fact that the nerve ending would be seared pretty much instantly, and the shock the body would go into, it's not that bad of a way to go out.

Anyway she's in a better place now

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Still... of all the ways you could kill yourself, setting myself on fire would be well down the list. Quite literally a high octane way to go. 

I am always surprised by the methods in which people kill themselves. A lot of people jump off tall buildings for instance. It strikes me as an extremely visceral and high adrenaline pumping act. Isn't staring death in the face enough? Why make it as violent and stressful as possible?

   
Besides a gun, what method isn't violent and stressful?  Even jumping from an incredible height seems less intimidating than drop hanging (separating your spine) to me. 
EDIT: Well, I guess a heroin overdose would be preferable, actually.

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« Reply #16152 on: June 25, 2018, 09:49:17 AM »
According to that website it goes:
-Explode to death
-heroin
-shotgun blast to brain

Then after that every method fucking sucks

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« Reply #16153 on: June 25, 2018, 09:52:25 AM »
https://gematsu.com/2018/06/omega-labyrinth-z-western-release-cancelled

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So PQube was surely pressured by Sony. All right. I'm tired of this bullshit, cancelling my plus account right now and switching to PC gaming. You can buy all the Japanese adult games you want with companies like Jast, Mangagamer, etc. I'm really burnt out with all this bullshit. Sony is dead for me.
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« Reply #16154 on: June 25, 2018, 09:54:28 AM »
According to that website it goes:
-Explode to death
-heroin
-shotgun blast to brain

Then after that every method fucking sucks

In part, I think they're measuring agony by the intensity of the pre-ritual, because no way there's any measurably more agonizing sensory feeling that occurs in the process of blasting your head off with a shotgun over heroin.

Some of this looks sus though -- 18 minutes to die by getting hit by a train, but it's not that agonizing?  Get out.

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« Reply #16155 on: June 25, 2018, 09:57:44 AM »
Never realized Cyanide was that painful.

I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but he tried it three times and it never worked.

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« Reply #16156 on: June 25, 2018, 09:58:49 AM »
Never realized Cyanide was that painful.

I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but the three times he tried it never worked.

Famous video on youtube of a rich guy who committed insurance fraud by burning down his mansion, and took cyanide as soon as the judge called out his sentencing.  It does *not* look fun.

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« Reply #16157 on: June 25, 2018, 09:59:11 AM »
You're blasting the part that's responsible for creating the sensation of pain. I'm not sure it matters if the signal from the tissues surrounding it reach it before then.

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« Reply #16158 on: June 25, 2018, 10:00:27 AM »
Part that threw me is where it says 4% of people survive their suicide by explosive...

You can buy 2kg of plastic for $80, not really sure how people are fucking that up.

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« Reply #16159 on: June 25, 2018, 10:01:16 AM »
Never realized Cyanide was that painful.

I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but the three times he tried it never worked.

Famous video on youtube of a rich guy who committed insurance fraud by burning down his mansion, and took cyanide as soon as the judge called out his sentencing.  It does *not* look fun.
Yeah, like someone else said i think i'd go out with a serious burn of heroine, only mine would be laced with LCD or something.

But if i truly had to pick a way to die.... fling me into a black hole. That'd be fucking cool. I know i'd rip apart before getting close to it but still, cool.

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« Reply #16160 on: June 25, 2018, 10:01:49 AM »
What with white extinction officially going down in the US, are there any minority Bore members that would be interested in purchasing me for white secual dlavery purposes? I can be like a white tiger or a snow leopard in your sex collection. Sexy flavors of minority only, plz.
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« Reply #16161 on: June 25, 2018, 10:05:54 AM »
I wanna train TVC like Siegfried and Roy.

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« Reply #16162 on: June 25, 2018, 10:07:48 AM »
I'd be down with POC being allowed to buy sacrificial lamb cuckboys to engage with their grievances of white people.  POC get their revenge fantasy, white-guilt cuckolds get their revenge fantasy, and I get my revenge fantasy.  We all win.

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« Reply #16163 on: June 25, 2018, 10:12:50 AM »
I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but he tried it three times and it never worked.

Despite movies telling you otherwise, overdoses are fucking hard to do unless you're overdosing on something like Fentanyl.

(Also this is not something I should be waking up to and commenting on while depressed as hell. Suffice it to say: I've looked up suicide methods in the past.)

You're blasting the part that's responsible for creating the sensation of pain. I'm not sure it matters if the signal from the tissues surrounding it reach it before then.

IIRC, you still have a 3 minute period after the shotgun blast. So not all deaths are "instantaneous" as you have the "last one out, get the lights" body-shutdown process.

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« Reply #16164 on: June 25, 2018, 10:12:57 AM »
Never realized Cyanide was that painful.

I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but the three times he tried it never worked.

Famous video on youtube of a rich guy who committed insurance fraud by burning down his mansion, and took cyanide as soon as the judge called out his sentencing.  It does *not* look fun.
Yeah, like someone else said i think i'd go out with a serious burn of heroine, only mine would be laced with LCD or something.

But if i truly had to pick a way to die.... fling me into a black hole. That'd be fucking cool. I know i'd rip apart before getting close to it but still, cool.

That'd be the most expensive suicide since the Challenger

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« Reply #16165 on: June 25, 2018, 10:15:51 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-developer-chloe-sagal-passed-away.51149/

Lets ignore that the person had really serious issues and instead just blame GG/KiwiFarms  :doge

A fucking terrible way to go out though  :-\

Amazing to see them attempt to blame GG for this, that girl both specifically blamed Brianna Wu and was probably the one legitimate death threat she recieved

I think it's stupid to solely blame KF or GG but not much doubt that they only added to the bad stuff going on in her life. Reminds me a bit of the August Ames situation. The bullying alone won't have driven her into suicide, but if you harass someone you already know is on the down you're quite a piece of shit.

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« Reply #16166 on: June 25, 2018, 10:16:48 AM »
I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but he tried it three times and it never worked.

Despite movies telling you otherwise, overdoses are fucking hard to do unless you're overdosing on something like Fentanyl.

(Also this is not something I should be waking up to and commenting on while depressed as hell. Suffice it to say: I've looked up suicide methods in the past.)

You seeing a doc?  Don't be a hero and go it alone if you need help.

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« Reply #16167 on: June 25, 2018, 10:21:56 AM »
I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but he tried it three times and it never worked.

Despite movies telling you otherwise, overdoses are fucking hard to do unless you're overdosing on something like Fentanyl.

(Also this is not something I should be waking up to and commenting on while depressed as hell. Suffice it to say: I've looked up suicide methods in the past.)

You seeing a doc?  Don't be a hero and go it alone if you need help.

I am, yeah. Don't worry. It's just a shitty period right now.

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« Reply #16168 on: June 25, 2018, 10:23:53 AM »
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I’m smiling just knowing that I saved dozens of lives

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« Reply #16169 on: June 25, 2018, 10:26:34 AM »
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I don't need that. Don't worry, I'm not going to do anything rash. I'm just saying it's universeally funny to wake up really sad and see people talking about shit you've considered in the past.

Also Assy: Jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge (which is/was popular back in the day) also has a minuscule chance of surviving. You're jumping like 5 stories (forgetting the actual distance) and hitting water (that is a solid impact like concrete) at like terminal velocity and have the possibility of surviving that.

So yeah... suicide painless and not surviving methods? Not that many.

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« Reply #16170 on: June 25, 2018, 10:32:09 AM »
https://gematsu.com/2018/06/omega-labyrinth-z-western-release-cancelled

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So PQube was surely pressured by Sony. All right. I'm tired of this bullshit, cancelling my plus account right now and switching to PC gaming. You can buy all the Japanese adult games you want with companies like Jast, Mangagamer, etc. I'm really burnt out with all this bullshit. Sony is dead for me.

First they came for the waifus and I said nothing

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« Reply #16171 on: June 25, 2018, 10:36:18 AM »
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I don't need that. Don't worry, I'm not going to do anything rash. I'm just saying it's universeally funny to wake up really sad and see people talking about shit you've considered in the past.

Also Assy: Jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge (which is/was popular back in the day) also has a minuscule chance of surviving. You're jumping like 5 stories (forgetting the actual distance) and hitting water (that is a solid impact like concrete) at like terminal velocity and have the possibility of surviving that.

So yeah... suicide painless and not surviving methods? Not that many.

I'm actually legitimately sorry.  The way I deal with my past issues with this stuff is by bringing levity into it and I didn't take into account other people who are going through the same thing and dealing with it in their own way.   

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« Reply #16172 on: June 25, 2018, 10:36:36 AM »
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I don't need that. Don't worry, I'm not going to do anything rash. I'm just saying it's universeally funny to wake up really sad and see people talking about shit you've considered in the past.

Also Assy: Jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge (which is/was popular back in the day) also has a minuscule chance of surviving. You're jumping like 5 stories (forgetting the actual distance) and hitting water (that is a solid impact like concrete) at like terminal velocity and have the possibility of surviving that.

So yeah... suicide painless and not surviving methods? Not that many.

They’re putting up suicide nets. Iirc you only have until 2021 or 2020 to use the Golden Gate Bridge as free suicide lunch.
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« Reply #16173 on: June 25, 2018, 10:38:26 AM »
At the current rate of advance in technology they may even be putting up levitation fields by 2021

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« Reply #16174 on: June 25, 2018, 10:42:26 AM »





LOL hes fat
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« Reply #16175 on: June 25, 2018, 10:44:22 AM »
If you're depressed hit the gym. Start running. You'd be surprised how much it helps.

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« Reply #16176 on: June 25, 2018, 10:45:21 AM »
My doctor says that if I lose any more weight, I will die

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« Reply #16177 on: June 25, 2018, 10:47:12 AM »
I had a neighbor that tried to go out a few times with prescription drugs and alcohol. Seems like a nice way to go but he tried it three times and it never worked.

Despite movies telling you otherwise, overdoses are fucking hard to do unless you're overdosing on something like Fentanyl.

(Also this is not something I should be waking up to and commenting on while depressed as hell. Suffice it to say: I've looked up suicide methods in the past.)


My GF has said the exact same thing, she gets a little miffed at how it's depicted in the media because it can be encouraging to people looking for methods as a quick and painless way when in reality it's not very effective and extremely painful.

If you're depressed hit the gym. Start running. You'd be surprised how much it helps.

+1, it did wonders for me... not for everyone tho

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« Reply #16178 on: June 25, 2018, 10:47:26 AM »
My doctor says that if I lose any more weight, I will die
Then don't lose weight? Gain weight by gaining muscle.

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« Reply #16179 on: June 25, 2018, 10:48:07 AM »
someone thought this was such a smart commentary, he made a comic out of it :kobeyuck Also imagine caring that much about one of these unfunny YT dudes for having some naive but unperilous opinion/shtick.
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« Reply #16180 on: June 25, 2018, 10:50:47 AM »
My doctor says that if I lose any more weight, I will die
Then don't lose weight? Gain weight by gaining muscle.

You don't get muscle from cardio I thought

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« Reply #16181 on: June 25, 2018, 10:53:33 AM »
My doctor says that if I lose any more weight, I will die
Then don't lose weight? Gain weight by gaining muscle.

You don't get muscle from cardio I thought

Do cardio and lifting.

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« Reply #16182 on: June 25, 2018, 10:59:13 AM »
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I don't need that. Don't worry, I'm not going to do anything rash. I'm just saying it's universeally funny to wake up really sad and see people talking about shit you've considered in the past.

Also Assy: Jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge (which is/was popular back in the day) also has a minuscule chance of surviving. You're jumping like 5 stories (forgetting the actual distance) and hitting water (that is a solid impact like concrete) at like terminal velocity and have the possibility of surviving that.

So yeah... suicide painless and not surviving methods? Not that many.

They’re putting up suicide nets. Iirc you only have until 2021 or 2020 to use the Golden Gate Bridge as free suicide lunch.

Those would actually work?

Anyway for the morbid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_sites#North_America

If you're depressed hit the gym. Start running. You'd be surprised how much it helps.

Hahahaha. Oh, Assy. I give you legit constructive feedback and you just snap-judgement like usual. I don't know why I bothered.

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« Reply #16183 on: June 25, 2018, 11:07:54 AM »
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@Schattenjäger , hey, welcome back. Your ban was totally unjust and carried out in evident bad faith to silence reasonable people during the witch hunt. :| Abhorrent stuff by the ex-mod in question and corroborated by other evidence of foul play. Sorry about that nonsense. We've pulled the legacy ban logs already and I'll be going through the rest of that ex-mod's bans one-by-one for review, and as many others as feasible. More on that front soon.

@DeathDealer#1 , yo, I can merge the accounts for you and get you back to your original username with combined post history etc. No hassle, just let me know.

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« Reply #16184 on: June 25, 2018, 11:12:01 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/giveaways/

Evil ore needs to re-up on his user bribes

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« Reply #16185 on: June 25, 2018, 11:12:01 AM »
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I don't need that. Don't worry, I'm not going to do anything rash. I'm just saying it's universeally funny to wake up really sad and see people talking about shit you've considered in the past.

Also Assy: Jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge (which is/was popular back in the day) also has a minuscule chance of surviving. You're jumping like 5 stories (forgetting the actual distance) and hitting water (that is a solid impact like concrete) at like terminal velocity and have the possibility of surviving that.

So yeah... suicide painless and not surviving methods? Not that many.

They’re putting up suicide nets. Iirc you only have until 2021 or 2020 to use the Golden Gate Bridge as free suicide lunch.

Those would actually work?

Anyway for the morbid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_sites#North_America

If you're depressed hit the gym. Start running. You'd be surprised how much it helps.

Hahahaha. Oh, Assy. I give you legit constructive feedback and you just snap-judgement like usual. I don't know why I bothered.

They’ve worked in other places, but I recall reading criticisms of the GGB’s net design, but that was a year or two ago.
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« Reply #16186 on: June 25, 2018, 11:13:54 AM »
Honestly even though self-immolation seems like an extremely painful act of self-abnegation, if you consider the fact that the nerve ending would be seared pretty much instantly, and the shock the body would go into, it's not that bad of a way to go out.

Anyway she's in a better place now

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Still... of all the ways you could kill yourself, setting myself on fire would be well down the list. Quite literally a high octane way to go. 

I am always surprised by the methods in which people kill themselves. A lot of people jump off tall buildings for instance. It strikes me as an extremely visceral and high adrenaline pumping act. Isn't staring death in the face enough? Why make it as violent and stressful as possible?

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Besides a gun, what method isn't violent and stressful?  Even jumping from an incredible height seems less intimidating than drop hanging (separating your spine) to me. 
EDIT: Well, I guess a heroin overdose would be preferable, actually.

Sleeping pills?

And jumping from a burning window isn't really the same thing. Someone suicidal can choose beforehand which method they use to kill themselves.

Edit: although some of you said it is hard to do. I wouldn't know. I know people have killed themselves with sleeping pills though.
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« Reply #16187 on: June 25, 2018, 11:18:38 AM »
And jumping from a burning window isn't really the same thing. Someone suicidal can choose beforehand which method they use to kill themselves.
That Foster-Wallace quote went completely over your head. The 'fire' he's talking about is a metaphor for depression.

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« Reply #16188 on: June 25, 2018, 11:22:17 AM »
Feel like a lot of people killed themselves this month. Including my personal life.

I mean people in my personal life. Not “my personal life killed itself”.

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« Reply #16189 on: June 25, 2018, 11:26:40 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/piperjaffray-videogame-sales-will-be-100-digital-by-2022.51355/
PiperJaffray: Videogame sales will be 100% digital by 2022

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So, I'll no longer be playing games by 2022, i.e. in four years? Time to look for a new hobby I guess. One more Zelda, one more Mario to go for me then it appears.
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Guess it'll all be over for me then. Time to take up painting.

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Not this new generation but I am sure the one after that will go full digital.

You all sound like old men yelling at clouds. Progress will happen whether you like it or not. It's inevitably where the market is heading, and you can like or not but if your love for gaming depends on a physical piece let me tell you that some kid will make up for it in Gass stuff in Fortnite 3 when that time comes.
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You totally ignored the issues of data caps, aging internet infrastructure and paid fast lanes so please actually answer the question instead of talking around it.
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Why is it always a gang of people out to resist this kind of news when it comes up? They probably where the same people saying digital couldn't be up to 30% of a games sales 2 years ago. It's technology, it's going to happen, and the industry doesn't care if you stop buying games because of it.
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Switch will still exist by that time, so no. :)
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« Reply #16190 on: June 25, 2018, 11:27:04 AM »
And jumping from a burning window isn't really the same thing. Someone suicidal can choose beforehand which method they use to kill themselves.
That Foster-Wallace quote went completely over your head. The 'fire' he's talking about is a metaphor for depression.

I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.

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« Reply #16191 on: June 25, 2018, 11:37:44 AM »
I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.
They commit suicide, even in a terrifying way, because they're escaping something worse, i.e. burning alive/continuing to suffer depression. Which I will add they didn't choose to have, as much as the person trapped in a burning building didn't choose to be there.
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« Reply #16192 on: June 25, 2018, 11:38:27 AM »
And jumping from a burning window isn't really the same thing. Someone suicidal can choose beforehand which method they use to kill themselves.
That Foster-Wallace quote went completely over your head. The 'fire' he's talking about is a metaphor for depression.

I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.

I think in Chloe's case, she was particularly ill and maybe lacked the perspective (or care) to know that self-immolation would be so painful - especially in comparison to the trauma she felt while alive.   A lot of this stuff isn't rational at all.  But for the most part, she's an outlier.  Because there just aren't many peaceful ways to die and because the actors engaging in it are not given to rationality,  it all just becomes interchangeable.  Getting access to heroin/sleeping pills/guns is out of the cards for most people, and if you look at suicide methods by country, places with tough gun control overwhelmingly use alternatives like hangings, etc.  In the US, the vast majority are fire-arm related.  It's just what's available, and the particularly ill outliers are interfacing less with their options.
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« Reply #16193 on: June 25, 2018, 11:48:00 AM »
I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.
They commit suicide, even in terrifying way, because they're escaping something even worse, i.e. burning alive/continuing to suffer depression.

Mentall illness is very difficult to understand I guess. I'm trying to look at it logically when perhaps it is beyond logic and reason.

Looking at it logically, the mental anguish inside may seem far greater than any physical pain you can imagine. That doesn't mean you jump into a meat grinder, because, heh, I am escaping something even worse, so... The truth is, perhaps it is beyond understanding unless you suffer from it yourself.

I suppose I could kind of understand jumping off a building because of its convenience though. If someone just cracks and has had enough in that moment, well, I guess it might be the most convenient way. Something easily accessible to you.

I think in Chloe's case, she was particularly ill and maybe lacked the perspective (or care) to know that self-immolation would be so painful - especially in comparison to the trauma she felt while alive.   A lot of this stuff isn't rational at all.  But for the most part, she's an outlier.  Because there just aren't many peaceful ways to die and because the actors engaging in it are not given to rationality,  it all just becomes interchangeable.  Getting access to heroin/sleeping pills/guns is out of the cards for most people, and if you look at suicide methods by country, places with tough gun control overwhelmingly use alternatives like hangings, etc.  In the US, the vast majority are fire-arm related.  It's just what's available, and the particularly ill outliers are interfacing less with their options.

Yeah. This makes sense to me.
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« Reply #16194 on: June 25, 2018, 11:53:58 AM »
I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.
They commit suicide, even in terrifying way, because they're escaping something even worse, i.e. burning alive/continuing to suffer depression.

Mentall illness is very difficult to understand I guess. I'm trying to look at it logically when perhaps it is beyond logic and reason.

Looking at it logically, the mental anguish inside may seem far greater than any physical pain you can imagine. That doesn't mean you jump into a meat grinder, because, heh, I am escaping something even worse, so... The truth is, perhaps it is beyond understanding unless you suffer from it yourself.

I suppose I could kind of understand jumping off a building because of its convenience though. If someone just cracks and has had enough in that moment, well, I guess it might be the most convenient way. Something easily accessible to you.

I think of Ned Vizzini, in that particular example.  The guy was super high-functioning - he went to Stuyvesant, got a competitive degree in a competitive university, completely changed career courses and still became an accomplished author, and even got a film published from his work.  In interviews he was cogent and insightful.   Then for a brief period of time, he stopped taking his medication and jumped off his parents apartment roof in New York City.  Looking at it rationally, it makes no sense:  He had a beautiful wife and kids and an impressive career and reputation - much more than most people at 32 years old.  And as soon as he stopped his meds, he couldn't pull it together.
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« Reply #16195 on: June 25, 2018, 11:55:23 AM »
I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.
They commit suicide, even in a terrifying way, because they're escaping something worse, i.e. burning alive/continuing to suffer depression. Which I will add they didn't choose to have, as much as the person trapped in a burning building didn't choose to be there.

nah they just want attention. Thats literally their entire life
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« Reply #16196 on: June 25, 2018, 12:00:24 PM »
I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.
They commit suicide, even in terrifying way, because they're escaping something even worse, i.e. burning alive/continuing to suffer depression.

Mentall illness is very difficult to understand I guess. I'm trying to look at it logically when perhaps it is beyond logic and reason.

Looking at it logically, the mental anguish inside may seem far greater than any physical pain you can imagine. That doesn't mean you jump into a meat grinder, because, heh, I am escaping something even worse, so... The truth is, perhaps it is beyond understanding unless you suffer from it yourself.

I suppose I could kind of understand jumping off a building because of its convenience though. If someone just cracks and has had enough in that moment, well, I guess it might be the most convenient way. Something easily accessible to you.

I think of Ned Vizzini, in that particular example.  The guy was super high-functioning - he went to Stuyvesant, got a competitive degree in a competitive university, completely changed career courses and still became an accomplished author, and even got a film published from his work.  In interviews he was cogent and insightful.   Then for a brief period of time, he stopped taking his medication and jumped off his parents apartment roof in New York City.  Looking at it rationally, it makes no sense:  He had a beautiful wife and kids and an impressive career and reputation.  And as soon as he stopped his meds, he couldn't pull it together.

Yeah. The mind is a very difficult thing to understand.

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« Reply #16197 on: June 25, 2018, 12:01:28 PM »
nah they just want attention. Thats literally their entire life
I guess we should spray no1curr on every sidewalk, then.

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« Reply #16198 on: June 25, 2018, 12:09:38 PM »
I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.
They commit suicide, even in terrifying way, because they're escaping something even worse, i.e. burning alive/continuing to suffer depression.

Mentall illness is very difficult to understand I guess. I'm trying to look at it logically when perhaps it is beyond logic and reason.

Looking at it logically, the mental anguish inside may seem far greater than any physical pain you can imagine. That doesn't mean you jump into a meat grinder, because, heh, I am escaping something even worse, so... The truth is, perhaps it is beyond understanding unless you suffer from it yourself.

I suppose I could kind of understand jumping off a building because of its convenience though. If someone just cracks and has had enough in that moment, well, I guess it might be the most convenient way. Something easily accessible to you.

I think of Ned Vizzini, in that particular example.  The guy was super high-functioning - he went to Stuyvesant, got a competitive degree in a competitive university, completely changed career courses and still became an accomplished author, and even got a film published from his work.  In interviews he was cogent and insightful.   Then for a brief period of time, he stopped taking his medication and jumped off his parents apartment roof in New York City.  Looking at it rationally, it makes no sense:  He had a beautiful wife and kids and an impressive career and reputation - much more than most people at 32 years old.  And as soon as he stopped his meds, he couldn't pull it together.

It really is a condition of the brain. That’s stupid to say, but the number of people who think serious mental illness can just be ‘talked out’ is ludicrous. I’ve seen it myself daily. Without medication with many of the conditions, the person might be fully cognizant that there brain is not acting rationally, but they can’t stop the thoughts and emotions. Almost like a bodily reflex, but one that harms their well being. Even minor fluctuations in a well establish medicinal regimen can result in an episode.

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« Reply #16199 on: June 25, 2018, 12:15:28 PM »
I got the metaphor. I didn't quite get how it explains why people choose to kill themselves in a particularly stressful or violent manner though. Someone jumping out of a burning building didn't choose to do this beforehand.
They commit suicide, even in terrifying way, because they're escaping something even worse, i.e. burning alive/continuing to suffer depression.

Mentall illness is very difficult to understand I guess. I'm trying to look at it logically when perhaps it is beyond logic and reason.

Looking at it logically, the mental anguish inside may seem far greater than any physical pain you can imagine. That doesn't mean you jump into a meat grinder, because, heh, I am escaping something even worse, so... The truth is, perhaps it is beyond understanding unless you suffer from it yourself.

I suppose I could kind of understand jumping off a building because of its convenience though. If someone just cracks and has had enough in that moment, well, I guess it might be the most convenient way. Something easily accessible to you.

I think of Ned Vizzini, in that particular example.  The guy was super high-functioning - he went to Stuyvesant, got a competitive degree in a competitive university, completely changed career courses and still became an accomplished author, and even got a film published from his work.  In interviews he was cogent and insightful.   Then for a brief period of time, he stopped taking his medication and jumped off his parents apartment roof in New York City.  Looking at it rationally, it makes no sense:  He had a beautiful wife and kids and an impressive career and reputation - much more than most people at 32 years old.  And as soon as he stopped his meds, he couldn't pull it together.

It really is a condition of the brain. That’s stupid to say, but the number of people who think serious mental illness can just be ‘talked out’ is ludicrous. I’ve seen it myself daily. Without medication with many of the conditions, the person might be fully cognizant that there brain is not acting rationally, but they can’t stop the thoughts and emotions. Almost like a bodily reflex, but one that harms their well being. Even minor fluctuations in a well establish medicinal regimen can result in an episode.

Right, and it's worth mentioning that there aren't simple concessions when faced with the question, "Why don't they just take their medicine?" .  The medications aren't perfect solutions - there's emotional blunting and other side effects that can often make it difficult, especially for creative work.  It's easy to have a lapse in judgement thinking you're better off abstaining from the medication because you think it's something you can 'talk yourself out of', like everyone thinks it's like.