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« Reply #16440 on: June 30, 2018, 08:39:59 PM »
08 made a lot of people who didn’t know shit about politics want to learn more. 16 made a lot of people who don’t know shit about politics confident that no one knows more than they do.
false-consensus bias

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« Reply #16441 on: June 30, 2018, 10:22:53 PM »
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another weirdo in EtcetEra got banned for pretending to be a gay black man.

What's his problem ? The forum he literally lives in is run by an admin who pretends to be a woman.


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« Reply #16442 on: June 30, 2018, 10:27:52 PM »
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Those people aren't here to be held accountable for their actions here. Hecht has addressed the ban, can we please keep the thread on track?

I agree with keeping it on track. Though.., what else can be said? It looks like a PR piece and doesn't seem genuine if you look at the structure, writing style and history of the person mentioned in the article. Is there anything else we can discuss? Maybe go into smaller details regarding the writing style.

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« Reply #16443 on: June 30, 2018, 10:47:03 PM »
I can read a fucking poll, dude

That you needed a poll to tell you that.  :lol  When we had this moment in time that proved she was obviously the spawn of Satan.




Born in Chicago, life long Cubs fan. Moving to New York so... Evil Empire sure sounds fitting, hit me up with a cap George. Then pops back to being a Cubs fan when they win the World Series. Sometimes ones allegiance to a sports team(s) can tell you all you need to know about an individual.

Never trust the following.

Yankees fans, including Trump, though at least he lives there.
Cowboy fans, all of them.
Cavs fans that are not from Ohio.
Manchester United fans that are not from England.
Laker fans, all of them.
Barcelona or Real Madrid fans not from Spain

Hillary also did something unforgivable here in the South.  When Bill was Governor of Arkansas he and Hill used to attend Arkansas Razorback football games.  She brought books to read and proceeded to read them during the game. Blasphemy!


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« Reply #16444 on: June 30, 2018, 11:04:20 PM »
I can read a fucking poll, dude

That you needed a poll to tell you that.  :lol  When we had this moment in time that proved she was obviously the spawn of Satan.


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Born in Chicago, life long Cubs fan. Moving to New York so... Evil Empire sure sounds fitting, hit me up with a cap George. Then pops back to being a Cubs fan when they win the World Series. Sometimes ones allegiance to a sports team(s) can tell you all you need to know about an individual.

Never trust the following.

Yankees fans, including Trump, though at least he lives there.
Cowboy fans, all of them.
Cavs fans that are not from Ohio.
Manchester United fans that are not from England.
Laker fans, all of them.
Barcelona or Real Madrid fans not from Spain

Hillary also did something unforgivable here in the South.  When Bill was Governor of Arkansas he and Hill used to attend Arkansas Razorback football games.  She brought books to read and proceeded to read them during the game. Blasphemy!

You're not funny and I hate Hillary.

When you make a joke, make it short. If it's bad at least people don't lose time on it.

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« Reply #16445 on: June 30, 2018, 11:04:46 PM »
She brought books to read and proceeded to read them during the game.
about investing in cattle futures? :thinking

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« Reply #16446 on: June 30, 2018, 11:22:04 PM »
if you have a good reason for doing so, like living in that state.

Running for Senate a good reason?

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« Reply #16447 on: June 30, 2018, 11:23:11 PM »
about investing in cattle futures? :thinking

Uranium for Dummies.

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« Reply #16448 on: June 30, 2018, 11:25:07 PM »
You're not funny and I hate Hillary.

When you make a joke, make it short. If it's bad at least people don't lose time on it.

Thanks Dad?

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« Reply #16449 on: June 30, 2018, 11:28:48 PM »
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All right - I had a chat with the rest of staff regarding the “bimbo” comment and decided it was a bit extreme to ban for that.
Apologies to gozu (and kitress, for their previous ban regarding the same), we’ve reversed the bans.
That said, we do take gendered insults seriously in context, so this isn’t an invitation to just start calling every female member of this forum a “bitch,” or anything.
Please get back on topic - if you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

A surprising reversal. Usually they lock the thread and tell you to PM them.

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« Reply #16450 on: July 01, 2018, 12:05:25 AM »
we are now Voat, y'all

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« Reply #16451 on: July 01, 2018, 12:16:31 AM »
Damn no wonder she's always angry.

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« Reply #16452 on: July 01, 2018, 12:20:03 AM »
what a bimbo

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« Reply #16453 on: July 01, 2018, 12:21:33 AM »
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another weirdo in EtcetEra got banned for pretending to be a gay black man.

What's his problem ? The forum he literally lives in is run by an admin who pretends to be a woman.


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« Reply #16454 on: July 01, 2018, 12:22:54 AM »
Guys you're acting gross and making me feel weird.

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« Reply #16455 on: July 01, 2018, 12:24:16 AM »

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Seventh Strongest Food Brand in the World and 1st in Latin America
wow, highly problematic

glad trump is putting up that wall and those camps

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« Reply #16456 on: July 01, 2018, 12:25:31 AM »
Guys you're acting gross and making me feel weird.
so a normal saturday night on the bore

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« Reply #16457 on: July 01, 2018, 12:30:46 AM »
Guys you're acting gross and making me feel weird.
so a normal saturday night on the bore

Typical American solipsism. Just because it's that time in America don't mean it's that time everywhere, you buttface


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« Reply #16458 on: July 01, 2018, 12:31:36 AM »
Typical American solipsism. Just because it's that time in America don't mean it's that time everywhere, you buttface
yes, it does

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« Reply #16459 on: July 01, 2018, 12:36:45 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/neogaf-ban-review-justice-project-off-topic-edition.1463407/post-253320148

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Yeah, those Lime threads were definitely an issue. I think I mentioned that somewhere in my notes on the first page here. Those honeypot threads aren't fair and are more of a way to maintain quasi-order from chaos in a low effort way. It's like when Dragona would throw an ultimatum in page 15 of some thread and say "if you say xyz after this point you're banned for 3 months." No one would even see the post, everyone would get banned. It's not fair to the users in question, though if you have a particular agenda you're trying to steer the discourse toward it's a short-term solution to that end. Those are things I've tried to learn from over the years. In the post-Dragona era I instructed the mod team to put a note in the thread title with a reference to a post number, and edit the OP itself too preferably, if a moderation ultimatum was going to be issued in the middle of a fast-paced thread. etc.

Okay, I guess we might need to break out some story time so that things don't go in unfair directions against Bish here. Buckle up, ladies.

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Okay, I guess we might need to break out some story time so that things don't go in unfair directions against Bish here. Buckle up, ladies.

Keep in mind that Bish was the last pre-2004 mod we had. He was a mod from circa 1998 when all the Gaming-Age staffers had admin powers on the forum by default and things were operated that way. When I formally took charge in 2004...well, let's forget about some of the initial mods I picked, hah, but after I got a decent head on my shoulders I had specific standards for moderators, attributes I looked for, and protocols everyone agreed to follow to become a moderator. I didn't ditch the pre-2004 mods who acclimated themselves to the new policies reasonably, but over time issues usually cropped up and they just weren't the right folks for the role and I had to remove them. GAF got a lot bigger and everything got a little more serious and requiring of nuance and sound judgment. Good moderation is hard. You have to constantly evaluate your own behavior. That's why I set things up to be cross-vetted by fellow moderators as a first line of defense, then tried to vet things on a systemic level from there when things got big. Every element of delegation comes with compromise and shortcomings, though.

Everything was a balancing act on my end. I wanted to be fair to the community, but also fair to the volunteers who put time in to help run this place and who helped build it. I was looser with what I allowed out of Bish because of the almost 20 years he had with the community and our own history. Also, there is some semblance of law and order to be had with those kinds of authoritarian figures on a message board. But it's not good for outcomes long-term and big egos abuse power on forums almost without fail. You also end up having a lot of pressure and attention on you in negative ways, too, when you take on that sort of enforcer (or "bad cop") persona, which can tilt you and compromise your judgment further. I've played Bad Cop plenty of times intentionally to trigger people since being thoughtful and patient 24/7 is way harder, and sometimes I've just been a dick, too. I'm not an Iain Banks Culture AI Overlord, haha. By all means make one of those though so I can take a vacation safely. :|

People change, and pressure changes people a lot. Volunteer moderators have a lot of pressure and the only accountability is to me (or on another site, whoever's in charge there; they probably aren't me, but that's for you to decide). Besada for example seemed to want to do the right thing and started out more like Mumei than Bish, well-intentioned softy, but when people started paying a lot of attention to him and talking about him off-site, he tilted and doubled down on viewing everyone as an enemy and felt he needed to take matters into his own hands etc. and ended up banning like >1000 people in 2017. I think his year-on-year ban count was 1300-something by October. Everyone was disingenuous, everyone was bigoted, everyone was evil, etc. It all became a feedback loop where he created his own enemies and then constantly checked off-site message boards to see what people were saying about him and whether he was being "doxxed." He was never really doxxed. People said shitty things about his appearance though. He wanted me to call the FBI. I tried to get everyone to stop obsessing about off-site gossip, but they kept checking and just stopped telling me about it as much, it seemed. It closed down the mod team into an insular thought bubble that was pitted against the community instead of on the same team as you guys. I was tilted by it too since people were obsessing about me and rightfully thinking I was a hypocrite about certain things. I've been way open with my life historically. So to a lot of people I must've seemed like either the world's most incompetent and hypocritical "SJW" or the world's most incompetent and hypocritical dudebro asshole socialite. I can totally see how that ended up happening.

You can't be a good moderator when you're emotionally compromised or arrogant. Good moderators can become bad moderators, and vice versa. Bish and I were pretty similar back in the day. We butted heads one time when I was about 15 years old and I impulse-demodded him for a day or so. I had just created the Off-Topic forum, back circa 2000, mostly to clean up the trashy random threads from Gaming side and keep things running smoothly there as a Gaming aggregate, but since Off-Topic was newly created, GAF was a gaming forum, etc., no one was using Off-Topic mostly and it functioned as a trash bin. I put my own non-gaming-related threads in Gaming after *I* created Off-Topic, haha. I let higher quality threads float in Gaming selectively other than my own, but that's kind of hypocritical, right? I was behaving immaturely and selfishly and gave myself a double standard. I was a kid, though, of course. We didn't have formal communication lines back then, either, and Bish moved one of my, err, off-topic threads to Off-Topic without talking to me about it first, and I got pissed off and bounced him on the spot since I was de facto in charge very soon after being modded. I was in impulsive rage kid mode, but he was an adult and raised the level of discourse between us, he took the high road, we talked it out. I reinstated him, and I recognized my own hypocrisy and started putting a good faith effort into building Off-Topic up as intended sans self-centered bullshit or double standards. Soon after that Off-Topic became legit and just as important as Gaming side to NeoGAF. There's all sorts of history like that and that's one example where Bish put me in my place for the greater good of the forum. Credit where credit is due.

I remember everything and I want to be fair to everyone, ideally, so ditching him for not necessarily fitting the moderator archetype I established later wasn't something I was keen on doing if I could avoid it. Bish always complied with my requests and adjusted himself when I asked it of him. He started coming to the irc/slack channel when I asked him so that cross-vetting and proper communication could happen between him and the rest of the mods. He adjusted to the times and did what I asked him to, so his actions until the stealth ban spree are mostly on me as Dear Leader. Make no mistake about that.

The post-election incident was something I could not just let go, because it was an active ongoing deception that had serious consequences for the boards. I had to go sift through the admin logs and track down the responsible party after mobilizing everyone to figure out what was going on. Bish was right there not saying a peep until I confronted him with evidence in-hand. That nonsense went on for over a month, hundreds of regulars who were a moderate, stabilizing influence on discussion were axed, Off-Topic descended into a yelling fest, etc. It wasn't something I could let go once I found out the full scope of what went down and how he was logging the justified bans and not logging the unjustified ones, not holding himself accountable at all, ignoring my daily expressed concerns about the state of the boards and my confusion about what the hell was prompting all of it without a peep. The only accountability response from me at that point was to permanently remove him, unfortunately, no matter what personal matters had prompted it.

Everyone's fallible. Like I said earlier, Bish had some shit go down in his personal life to my understanding around election time, and that tilted him. Assuming what he said was true, and I have little reason not to think it was true, he had a good excuse to be pissed off, but that didn't absolve him of personal responsibility. Not to say that everything was perfect before then, but it was more in balance at least. I met up with him once a few years back and he was chill. Some of you will remember that silly arm wrestling photo of us that got photoshopped a lot. He's not a bad dude at all, far as I know, and he was proud to be part of NeoGAF and my understanding is that he got those annual NeoGAF shout-outs happening at the E3 Sony Conferences personally. He was on Team NeoGAF...until the moment he wasn't anymore. He probably regrets it, I regret it, and it sucks, but it wasn't cool either and I have to make the hard calls for the greater good or this place doesn't work. Hell, I shut down with anxiety overload for like two days and the whole place imploded. This is the job. I make plenty of mistakes, but I have to correct them as soon as I can, and it's often too damned complicated to have a running dialogue about the whole thing with the public on a day to day. It's often not appropriate, either. I can share things about myself openly to whatever extent I want, but as soon as other people are involved I have to be mindful of the details about them I share with the public. Witch hunts can happen, people can get fucked with, internet can have real life consequences. I'm not going to just run my mouth off and point at people in the heat of the moment to make things easier on myself. That's not the responsible, mature, ethical thing to do. Hence all the #metoo bs being a complex ethical dilemma by its very nature, that I wanted to handle correctly and was not given time to. Hence not naming and shaming bish or throwing him to the angry mob at the time when I found out about what went down.

Most of us had shit happen that tilted us starting around a few years ago. Things fell out of balance and I was not always around since I've been doing this for a really, really, really long time and I need to go live life sometimes to not be drowned by internet crap. Some things got mishandled. For example, I called out GamerGate for being dumb and accidentally got labeled an SJW Figurehead Cuck Whatever. TBH I had never even heard the term "SJW" before GamerGate happened and thought the whole thing was dumb, but I approached it in an arrogant way and mocked a bunch of people and told them to get out of their basements and get laid and stop obsessing over some gamer girl's sex life. Hey, some of them did need to get out of their basements, sheesh, but that goes for folks on every side. That was normally how I *deescalated*, you know, get people to stop taking things overly seriously and reflect on their own behavior, but I handled it immaturely and the situation was volatile, the internet was changing rapidly, etc., and it ended up leading to lines in the sand and an endless ideological battle and a bunch of obsessive people effectively began stalking me. All my personal Facebook statuses would get posted online and gossipped about. People started digging through my entire internet history looking for dirt to "expose" me. I understand why, in retrospect, but it was still not fun at all and closed me off from my normal openness with the internet and gaf that keeps us all on the same page and talking things out instead of shit imploding. There's accountability to spread around everywhere. No hard feelings on my end anymore, though.

I could sit here typing until I die of old age just about all the nuances involved in how everything played out to get us here. But we're better off if I process it and just do the correct thing now and use what I've gleaned from all of it productively as your leader-boy. If I go authoritarian mode on you and tell you to shut up at this point it's not because I'm actually emotional or unable to have a totally open conversation about something, it's just necessary and I'm making a judgment call and asking you to respect that in the moment so we can get where we need to go. See earlier in this thread for example. I am the axis that most NeoGAF stuff rotates around one way or another, I have the most influence and authority and first-hand experience with almost every relevant event of this site's history. No one else comes close. And I'm in this role because I was evidently the natural fit for it, so I have way too much detail and nuance and hindsight to realistically share with y'all. Ultimately that's just my job to pay attention to and figure out and then make the right calls. Sometimes the right call is not explaining something in the heat of the moment and there will need to be mutual trust to get to the other side of it. We had that mutual trust for a really long time, mostly, starting with the community handing me the keys to this place and throwing money at me to run it in 2004. I've never forgotten that and I won't sell out because of that bond I have with the community from that moment. That mutual trust eroded, though, in recent years. It's my fault and your fault and no one's fault. It's water under the bridge. Let's just get it back.
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Like I told @pj earlier, once I actually get through this big Ban Review and have all the hard evidence properly evaluated I'll be more comfortable talking about the other bad actors evidently involved last year. A few people did some really fucked up things during the October crisis under pretense of helping the site and myself, and their actions had a major influence on how I approached everything during the crisis, too. It looks way worse than anything Bish did, from what I can tell at the moment. I found out about it around E3 time recently when @Schattenjäger and a couple other folks inquired about their accounts around the same time, I spotted some really questionable stuff that everyone had missed until now, and it prompted me to commit to this project here. Being here and doing this now is clearly a good thing, though, since we're all getting back on the same page instead of being mutually sour forever over a series of mutual misunderstandings. We're clearly understanding each other a lot better right away with an open dialogue like this. Glad to see things go in that direction and that's the important thing.

I'll keep up the heightened transparency about what happened, per what I've been explaining throughout this thread, but don't break out pitchforks for folks I mention. A bunch of dumb shit happened and we all mostly just want a good, functional NeoGAF back. I've already made the necessary adjustments so that none of this ever happens again. VB3 was an ancient piece of crap so it was a lot harder to spot internal fuckery, too. I've restructured everything and cleaned house and leveraged all my experience and you see the results. I'll put in all the work necessary to repair what's broken, and I have a lot of fun stuff on the way for the community too. We're getting a 2.1 design revision soon. This thread, this project, is just to help us get on the same page in a constructive way while the most important part -- the interpersonal repairs between each of you, me, and NeoGAF -- are completed, not to dwell or assign blame for the sake of it. Thanks much and let's proceed. The PMs and emails I've gotten just in the last day has been a heartwarming tidal wave. I'm confident that NeoGAF will keep getting back on track from here and it's not like I'm giving up regardless. Shout out to @Redneckerz preemptively for reading this whole thing. ;b

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« Reply #16460 on: July 01, 2018, 12:36:56 AM »
I am the axis that most NeoGAF stuff rotates around one way or another, I have the most influence and authority and first-hand experience with almost every relevant event of this site's history. No one else comes close. And I'm in this role because I was evidently the natural fit for it

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« Reply #16461 on: July 01, 2018, 12:38:45 AM »
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Yup. It’s how I got the tag. Haha.
Nobody thought I’d win that bet.
Stump was soooo aggravated, haha, and a lot of us were annoyed by your personal parade at the time (no hard feelings anymore of course, just being straight with you), but he insisted on being fair to you and took his licks, he gave you that tag, and he protected you from a *lot* of permabans that were inbound on you 24/7 lol. Dozens, probably. He used you as a sort of compass to keep his own bias in check, is how I'd probably describe it. Stump was extremely fair and among the best NeoGAF has had in its moderation history, but you played an important role too on the other side of the fence. You stayed within the rules here but outside of the political bubble of insularity that had rapidly formed around election season, so you were a walking reminder of the existence of that bubble and everyone's bias.

Take this imaginary NeoGAF Medal of Freedom or whatever, but don't get a big head about it. ;b

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« Reply #16462 on: July 01, 2018, 12:40:37 AM »
Nicole sucks at the admin job, but if that’s really a picture of her, delete that shit. My god.

Relax, it's Mike Myers.
Oi Oi

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #16463 on: July 01, 2018, 12:44:34 AM »
Going to have to hard pivot my resetera mod campaign to neogaf. Hundreds of donor contributions down the drain.   :-\
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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #16464 on: July 01, 2018, 12:55:14 AM »
I often immagine being a confused teen.
is that why you occasionally sleep with them?  :doge

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« Reply #16465 on: July 01, 2018, 12:57:52 AM »
Confused 19 year olds  :itagaki

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« Reply #16466 on: July 01, 2018, 01:07:43 AM »
Great, not only are people trying to disparage Nicole for being trans, but now also trying to imply it's wrong to fuck a hot 19 year old. How did bore get so wrong so fast

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« Reply #16467 on: July 01, 2018, 01:09:11 AM »
this forum is going to shit.

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« Reply #16468 on: July 01, 2018, 01:10:34 AM »
unban us, lore. unban us all  :rejoice
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« Reply #16469 on: July 01, 2018, 01:18:59 AM »
I am the only old borian that never got permabanned from gaf?

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« Reply #16470 on: July 01, 2018, 01:19:12 AM »
this forum is going to shit.
Cindi, Cream and etoliate wouldn't have allowed this

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« Reply #16471 on: July 01, 2018, 01:29:15 AM »
Cindi would've dragged SweetNicole for not having convincing hair, makeup and nails

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« Reply #16472 on: July 01, 2018, 01:35:21 AM »
Code switching

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« Reply #16473 on: July 01, 2018, 01:36:10 AM »
I am the only old borian that never got permabanned from gaf?
how


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« Reply #16474 on: July 01, 2018, 01:43:05 AM »
I am the only old borian that never got permabanned from gaf?
how
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« Reply #16475 on: July 01, 2018, 01:43:47 AM »
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Besada for example seemed to want to do the right thing and started out more like Mumei than Bish, well-intentioned softy, but when people started paying a lot of attention to him and talking about him off-site, he tilted and doubled down on viewing everyone as an enemy and felt he needed to take matters into his own hands etc. and ended up banning like >1000 people in 2017. I think his year-on-year ban count was 1300-something by October. Everyone was disingenuous, everyone was bigoted, everyone was evil, etc. It all became a feedback loop where he created his own enemies and then constantly checked off-site message boards to see what people were saying about him and whether he was being "doxxed." He was never really doxxed. People said shitty things about his appearance though. He [Besada] wanted me to call the FBI. I tried to get everyone to stop obsessing about off-site gossip, but they kept checking and just stopped telling me about it as much, it seemed.
:neogaf  :mindblown

This is some juicy stuff. Besada Annihilated
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« Reply #16476 on: July 01, 2018, 01:44:57 AM »
it was wartime, we all did things to survive

i myself turned in PD hundreds of times

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« Reply #16477 on: July 01, 2018, 01:46:47 AM »
Besada did say how much it hurt to see all the hard work he put in to personally cultivate the user base fall apart when Evilore got in the shower kidnapped by Scientologists
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« Reply #16478 on: July 01, 2018, 01:47:59 AM »
Poor Lore taken advantage of by those rogue mods, he was totally helpless on his Eurotrash vacations

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« Reply #16479 on: July 01, 2018, 02:15:45 AM »
I can read a fucking poll, dude

That you needed a poll to tell you that.  :lol  When we had this moment in time that proved she was obviously the spawn of Satan.


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Born in Chicago, life long Cubs fan. Moving to New York so... Evil Empire sure sounds fitting, hit me up with a cap George. Then pops back to being a Cubs fan when they win the World Series. Sometimes ones allegiance to a sports team(s) can tell you all you need to know about an individual.

Never trust the following.

Yankees fans, including Trump, though at least he lives there.
Cowboy fans, all of them.
Cavs fans that are not from Ohio.
Manchester United fans that are not from England.
Laker fans, all of them.
Barcelona or Real Madrid fans not from Spain

Hillary also did something unforgivable here in the South.  When Bill was Governor of Arkansas he and Hill used to attend Arkansas Razorback football games.  She brought books to read and proceeded to read them during the game. Blasphemy!

You're not funny and I hate Hillary.

When you make a joke, make it short. If it's bad at least people don't lose time on it.

Where's the joke though?

I don't know anything about all those kkona teams but he was spot on in regards to barca/real/man u.
Don't trust them.


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« Reply #16480 on: July 01, 2018, 02:41:45 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/9904312/

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Shame on you because you have different standards towards Sony and other publishers. EA, Bungie, Activision, Rockstar don’t support crossplay. Why don’t you stop playing their games?

Think it twice and stop your childish action please.

You gotta love it when people treat billion dollar corporations like mom and pop businesses.

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« Reply #16481 on: July 01, 2018, 02:42:54 AM »
nintendo supports crossplay  8)
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« Reply #16482 on: July 01, 2018, 02:44:42 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-more-important-thing-to-have-in-cyberpunk.52301
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User Banned (Permanent): Making a thread to mock representation concerns. History of infractions.

With all the news and huge/ridiculous expectations from everyone regarding Cyberpunk, that it lacks this and that, I personally think one of the most important things in a pure RPG, that I havent seen yet implemented, or not properly, is the need to go to the toilet.

Wouldnt it be "nice" if you're in a dangerous mission and you just need to poop so hard, that it fails the mission just because you didnt take care of that need before starting the mission? Seriously though, if theres an eating/drinking mechanic, why shouldnt there be a toilet needs mechanic as well?

What do you think ERA? Are there any examples of such a mechanic in games? I think Postal 2 had the pissing thing which was kinda funny.
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« Reply #16483 on: July 01, 2018, 02:44:44 AM »
nintendo supports crossplay  8)

But they don't support Cuckplay. Sorry Alison.

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« Reply #16484 on: July 01, 2018, 02:45:20 AM »
nintendo supports crossplay  8)

Makes sense that the Reset-approved video game company would be trans positive

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« Reply #16485 on: July 01, 2018, 02:51:22 AM »
I am the only old borian that never got permabanned from gaf?
how

06 account and I just didn't argue alot. Didn't even have 14000 posts after 12 years.

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« Reply #16486 on: July 01, 2018, 02:51:43 AM »
Evilore : My thousand Fights soon on Audible.
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« Reply #16487 on: July 01, 2018, 02:53:29 AM »
Where's the joke though?

I don't know anything about all those kkona teams but he was spot on in regards to barca/real/man u.
Don't trust them.

Who knows, just stating what is pretty much known in the sporting world and how it related to Hillary. EPL fans from the US are the worst. Man U and Arsenal with a few jumping on the Chelsea banwagon. Started following the EPL back when I got into PES in the PS2 days and option files. Decided to take on Man (Blue) City as my team because they had my favorite US players, Carlos Renya and DaMarcus Beasley. They were a middle of the pack team for the longest time but that decision has turned out well.

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« Reply #16488 on: July 01, 2018, 02:54:47 AM »
fistful should see if his ban will be lifted in this new era of things being chill on NeoGAF.com again :doge

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« Reply #16489 on: July 01, 2018, 03:11:11 AM »
'Lore's airing his old staff's dirty laundry for cheap pity points to save his dwindling ad revenue  :lol
For a guy claiming he was oblivious/powerless to stop this rogue gang of mods, he sure has a deep, detailed account for what went down and how.

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« Reply #16490 on: July 01, 2018, 03:18:54 AM »
he barely knew them, didn't even know their real names
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« Reply #16491 on: July 01, 2018, 03:19:44 AM »
Don't let Evilore being a greedy opportunistic weasel distract you from the fact that Besada is a fucking loser.

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« Reply #16492 on: July 01, 2018, 03:21:05 AM »
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benjipwns

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« Reply #16493 on: July 01, 2018, 03:33:07 AM »
imagine how much could have turned out differently it Lore sent just one gift basket

and maybe suggested there might be more to come rather than never once mentioning them

agrajag

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« Reply #16494 on: July 01, 2018, 03:38:25 AM »
gotta love how beseda just assumed there would be gift baskets involved in his tenure as a volunteer forum moderator

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« Reply #16495 on: July 01, 2018, 03:41:33 AM »
That gift basket comment is still really friggin bizarre to me. Like, was it a joke that just didn't come off in text well or was he seriously expecting some assorted pastries and wine for staying on board a melting website?

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« Reply #16496 on: July 01, 2018, 03:49:50 AM »
the funny thing about all of that Loresplainer (it wasn't me!) is that if you cut out the part after Trump won and some really lost their minds, there was a long period on GAF where the only mod/admin who would wander into a thread without reading it really and straight up perm you for a single post or comment was Lore himself; the last crew especially seemed to enjoy to dragging out the pile-ons, let the person "dig their hole" and then cut them down to the glorious cries of the people and repeat with the next person who rolled into the thread

week bans, month bans, etc. sure, but Lore was for ages the only real hair perm trigger dude, even when bish would "clean out a thread" it took a few years of people undermining Sony with racism before those all wound up as perms too

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« Reply #16497 on: July 01, 2018, 03:52:49 AM »
then there was Steve Youngblood who would perm you because he happened to cast his eye upon you during one of his bloodlust frenzies

but that's why we love him :heart

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« Reply #16498 on: July 01, 2018, 03:55:43 AM »
That gift basket comment is still really friggin bizarre to me. Like, was it a joke that just didn't come off in text well or was he seriously expecting some assorted pastries and wine for staying on board a melting website?
:gurl

This is a guy whose final message to his flock the GAF community was a warning that the ERA staff wasn't willing to go above and beyond to "protect them" from the eldritch horrors of the World Wide Web, like that of the petty gossip churning out of the Hate Machine at thebore.com, as he had so steadfastly done. He was an egomaniac drunk on GAF power. I absolutely believe he would have expected gifts from EviLore all of his "hard work" being a janitor on a gaming message board.

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« Reply #16499 on: July 01, 2018, 03:58:31 AM »
Cannot wait for the eventual bio drama* Tyler Malka: The Tale of a Thousand Fights (alternate title The Rise and Fall of NeoGAF: They Can't Hear Your Screams in the Shower)


* screenplay based on a treatment by Gary Whitta