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« Reply #21780 on: July 17, 2018, 12:36:38 PM »
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« Reply #21781 on: July 17, 2018, 12:40:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-why-im-not-streaming-on-twitch-today.55778/

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This is hilarious and pathetic because Wokepoint and Kotaku have an entire audience already through their website, newletters, and so on. Their twitch stream isn't their brand. Just move to youtube or whatever and embed it on your frontpage. Job done. Hell, throw a huge "WE MOVED TO YOUTUBE CLICK HERE" on your twitch channel if you want. But to quit twitch for one day and act like its some big play? :lol :lol
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« Reply #21782 on: July 17, 2018, 12:42:00 PM »

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« Reply #21783 on: July 17, 2018, 12:43:03 PM »
How long till she buys something on Amazon?

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« Reply #21784 on: July 17, 2018, 12:43:13 PM »
Jeff Bezos and Emmett Shear react to these news:


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« Reply #21785 on: July 17, 2018, 12:43:30 PM »
I refuse to watch Fox News. I'm doing my part to be Diet Woke!

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« Reply #21786 on: July 17, 2018, 12:44:54 PM »
i got a sous vide yesterday for almost half off, so that makes it the best prime day so far.

Seven hours for a steak is basically mac cuck territory.
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« Reply #21787 on: July 17, 2018, 12:45:40 PM »
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Austin Walker is currently streaming live on twitch right now during prime day. So much for him skipping prime day to stand with the striking workers.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10484020/

What a shock. Dude who is only woke for the attention it brings him couldn't even follow through on not streaming his dumb mug.

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« Reply #21788 on: July 17, 2018, 12:46:01 PM »
Speaking of Fox News, Anne Coulter was great on Mostly for Millenials.

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« Reply #21789 on: July 17, 2018, 12:48:12 PM »
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If he wasn’t willing to follow through, he shouldn’t have said he was going to not stream on prime day.

Multiple people on the twitch chat made them aware that it was currently prime day, but that didn’t stop them.

They also had about 300 max viewers. If missing 300 viewers for one day will cause Waypoint to go out of business, he shouldn’t have said he was going to boycott streaming.

They also just locked discussion of it on their forum.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10487982/

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« Reply #21790 on: July 17, 2018, 12:48:44 PM »
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Austin Walker is currently streaming live on twitch right now during prime day. So much for him skipping prime day to stand with the striking workers.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10484020/

What a shock. Dude who is only woke for the attention it brings him couldn't even follow through on not streaming his dumb mug.

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https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/1018887891836133376

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« Reply #21791 on: July 17, 2018, 12:51:01 PM »
They hate Dan because he doesn't give a shit about all of this social studies shit. He walked out of the Beastcast when they were discussing the Arenanet stuff.

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« Reply #21792 on: July 17, 2018, 12:57:43 PM »

Stay worthless, you fraud

Maybe their legal team forced him to do it, just like they forced him to stay quiet about sexual harrassment at VICE. :trumps

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« Reply #21793 on: July 17, 2018, 12:59:55 PM »
Was thinking about the ScarJo hate yesterday, and was curious: has REEE weighed in on Alita Battle Angel being played by a Cuban woman?

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« Reply #21794 on: July 17, 2018, 01:01:35 PM »
Given how Kotaku and Waypoint exposed their fake "wokeness", will ERA mods stop banning people for shitting on these websites (Kotaku, Waypoint, etc...) for "vilifying journalism"?

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« Reply #21795 on: July 17, 2018, 01:01:40 PM »
Was thinking about the ScarJo hate yesterday, and was curious: has REEE weighed in on Alita Battle Angel being played by a Cuban woman?

No,

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« Reply #21796 on: July 17, 2018, 01:02:13 PM »
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Ideally you should have an around-the-clock protest presence outside of the White House where people switch off to go to work, sleep, spend time with their families and substitute with others... with it swelling up in size and magnitude during the weekends.
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Didn't end well for the people who tried this last - http://www.historynet.com/the-bonus-army-war-in-washington.htm


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« Reply #21797 on: July 17, 2018, 01:05:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10488869/

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here's plenty of old stuff with Austin and Streamfriends that was also real ugly like this

What this the stuff you brought up before nachobro?

edit: OK, saw your response below.thanks

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« Reply #21798 on: July 17, 2018, 01:06:13 PM »
Maybe their legal team forced him to do it, just like they forced him to stay quiet about sexual harrassment at VICE. :trumps
and how he had everyone not discuss someone on our Streamfriends stream team sending unwanted dick pics to multiple people and still keeps this dude on his patreon funded rpg podcast. pretty weird and i'm sure totally coincidental. :thinking

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« Reply #21799 on: July 17, 2018, 01:06:37 PM »
don't know if i should be proud or ashamed that i've acted gaf again.
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« Reply #21800 on: July 17, 2018, 01:07:31 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10488869/

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here's plenty of old stuff with Austin and Streamfriends that was also real ugly like this

What this the stuff you brought up before nachobro?
Yep. And I did find out after bringing this up on twitter that this is the dick pick sender AND that he sent pics to multiple people, not just one: https://twitter.com/Swandre3000

Still working with Austin too

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« Reply #21801 on: July 17, 2018, 01:08:15 PM »
Was thinking about the ScarJo hate yesterday, and was curious: has REEE weighed in on Alita Battle Angel being played by a Cuban woman?

They hate scar jo for white washing


reality; they hate scarjo cause she's a sexy fucking beast

alos fuck black widow literally wast of time in movies.

e: lol that post has nothing to do about scar jo.
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« Reply #21802 on: July 17, 2018, 01:10:25 PM »
Was thinking about the ScarJo hate yesterday, and was curious: has REEE weighed in on Alita Battle Angel being played by a Cuban woman?

They hate scar jo for white washing


reality; they hate scarjo cause she's a sexy fucking beast

alos fuck black widow literally wast of time in movies.

e: lol that post has nothing to do about scar jo.

maybe don't drunk post.  :doge

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« Reply #21803 on: July 17, 2018, 01:12:19 PM »
Is there a summary somewhere of the accusations against Austin/coworker or whatever? I have no clue about any of it but see it referenced occasionally. Google leads me to nothing.

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« Reply #21804 on: July 17, 2018, 01:16:42 PM »
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If he wasn’t willing to follow through, he shouldn’t have said he was going to not stream on prime day.

Multiple people on the twitch chat made them aware that it was currently prime day, but that didn’t stop them.

They also had about 300 max viewers. If missing 300 viewers for one day will cause Waypoint to go out of business, he shouldn’t have said he was going to boycott streaming.

They also just locked discussion of it on their forum.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10487982/

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« Reply #21805 on: July 17, 2018, 01:21:20 PM »
Was thinking about the ScarJo hate yesterday, and was curious: has REEE weighed in on Alita Battle Angel being played by a Cuban woman?

They hate scar jo for white washing


reality; they hate scarjo cause she's a sexy fucking beast

alos fuck black widow literally wast of time in movies.

e: lol that post has nothing to do about scar jo.

maybe don't drunk post.  :doge

maybe

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« Reply #21806 on: July 17, 2018, 01:22:40 PM »
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If he wasn’t willing to follow through, he shouldn’t have said he was going to not stream on prime day.

Multiple people on the twitch chat made them aware that it was currently prime day, but that didn’t stop them.

They also had about 300 max viewers. If missing 300 viewers for one day will cause Waypoint to go out of business, he shouldn’t have said he was going to boycott streaming.

They also just locked discussion of it on their forum.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10487982/

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« Reply #21807 on: July 17, 2018, 01:32:42 PM »
Is there a summary somewhere of the accusations against Austin/coworker or whatever? I have no clue about any of it but see it referenced occasionally. Google leads me to nothing.
Before Austin got hired at Giant Bomb, we streamed together on a twitch streaming group called Streamfriends with a group of other people. The whole goal was to make a safe, chill space on twitch without judgement for whatever (sex/gender, orientation, race, etc, etc). Thing were going well and it lead to offshoots like their RPG podcast Friends at the Table. Then one day Austin sends out an email that there was an issue with one of the members of the streaming group sending dick pics to female viewers without consent. He also said that he cleared it all up and that coincidentally the victim asked that the sexual harasser not be named (his name is Andrew Lee Swan by the way, I linked his twitter above) and that they not be punished at all in any way. Weird. So I thought this was unacceptable and quit the group over this.

Years later the group sorta disbanded on its own, Austin got the job at GB and then Waypoint and went on to hire all of his friends to write articles and reviews for those sites. Whatever, that's to be expected. But then I got annoyed by the behavior of Austin and other members of the group as they piled on that Nick whatever dude from Polygon who was creeping on girls on Twitter but not acknowledging the issues at Streamfriends that they all covered up. So I posted about it on Twitter and Bore and got a bunch of people who monetarily benefited from Austin hiring them DMing me telling me to delete everything etc. I also got DMs from people who got dick pics sent to them and they outed who did it. I ended up caving and deleting my tweets over it anyway.

But it's just funny how this keeps coming up that Austin is Mr. Super Woke until it has a chance of hurting his pocket and then all conversation is shut down. And the dick pic sender is still a part of his patreon funded RPG podcast because why not, right?
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« Reply #21808 on: July 17, 2018, 01:34:58 PM »
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His love of the police and Walmart is half a step.away from him screaming maga and dropping the n word constantly.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10489771

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« Reply #21809 on: July 17, 2018, 01:53:39 PM »
Is there a summary somewhere of the accusations against Austin/coworker or whatever? I have no clue about any of it but see it referenced occasionally. Google leads me to nothing.
Before Austin got hired at Giant Bomb, we streamed together on a twitch streaming group called Streamfriends with a group of other people. The whole goal was to make a safe, chill space on twitch without judgement for whatever (sex/gender, orientation, race, etc, etc). Thing were going well and it lead to offshoots like their RPG podcast Friends at the Table. Then one day Austin sends out an email that there was an issue with one of the members of the streaming group sending dick pics to female viewers without consent. He also said that he cleared it all up and that coincidentally the victim asked that the sexual harasser not be named (his name is Andrew Lee Swan by the way, I linked his twitter above) and that they not be punished at all in any way. Weird. So I thought this was unacceptable and quit the group over this.

Years later the group sorta disbanded on its own, Austin got the job at GB and then Waypoint and went on to hire all of his friends to write articles and reviews for those sites. Whatever, that's to be expected. But then I got annoyed by the behavior of Austin and other members of the group as they piled on that Nick whatever dude from Polygon who was creeping on girls on Twitter but not acknowledging the issues at Streamfriends that they all covered up. So I posted about it on Twitter and Bore and got a bunch of people who monetarily benefited from Austin hiring them DMing me telling me to delete everything etc. I also got DMs from people who got dick pics sent to them and they outed who did it. I ended up caving and deleting my tweets over it anyway.

But it's just funny how this keeps coming up that Austin is Mr. Super Woke until it has a chance of hurting his pocket and then all conversation is shut down. And the dick pic sender is still a part of his patreon funded RPG podcast because why not, right?

Thanks for writing that up. If you have the Pms and any evidence, you could reasonably approach one of the numerous outlets. Granted, it would have less to do with the hypocrisy and more to do with the dick pic guy.

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« Reply #21810 on: July 17, 2018, 01:58:11 PM »
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His love of the police and Walmart is half a step.away from him screaming maga and dropping the n word constantly.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10489771

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I guess REers never met folk from the midwest.

edit: Walmart is pretty much "downtown" for some small midwestern towns.  :doge

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« Reply #21811 on: July 17, 2018, 02:01:00 PM »
His response  :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #21812 on: July 17, 2018, 02:01:36 PM »
Thanks for writing that up. If you have the Pms and any evidence, you could reasonably approach one of the numerous outlets. Granted, it would have less to do with the hypocrisy and more to do with the dick pic guy.
Yeah I still have some DMs and the email chain but at this point it don't think it would make much difference to anyone

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« Reply #21813 on: July 17, 2018, 02:04:51 PM »
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Hey everyone,

It took me by surprise when, about 20 or 30 minutes into today’s stream, I caught someone in the chat saying that Prime day was still going. After all, when I did a search for it, what I saw was language like “Prime Day is a one-day only global shopping event exclusively for Prime members,” and when I first saw the online calls for support, many of them specifically called out the 16th as a day for cross-industry solidarity.

So, once we finished Hot Mic Mornings, we spent time getting updated on the situation. Turns out, as y’all know, Prime Day was always meant to continue through today and some folks are already suggesting that because of outages on Amazon’s side, it may wind up being extended even further.

The thing is, collective organization is always messy, especially when it’s decentralized and multi-national. And corporate language is always misleading—Amazon’s “one day” language on a multi-day sale is an example of a strategy explicitly meant to entice shoppers into thinking their opportunity for purchase is limited. But we cannot let the inconsistency of organizational language or the misleading sales rhetoric of a company to be cover for inaction or faux-ignorance.

While this combination of mixed messaging from organizers and confusion around Prime Day’s length and timing led to us streaming this morning, now that we’re clear on it all, we can and must do the right thing and cancel today’s XCOM stream, and hold off on any other streams during this moment of solidarity with Amazon’s workers.

There’s been a lot of interesting debate in this thread about what we should do as a site and also about what we as individuals can, should, and must do. I can answer the plans for the former, and as for the latter, I can give my very personal answer.

The team doesn’t feel comfortable streaming to some other platform during this strike. Partially, that’s because we have ongoing issues with other services. And partially that’s because whether intentionally or not, that would be us using the strike to test out other platforms, which goes against the goal of solidarity in this moment.

As an individual, I know that I am always-already compromised. I live in a country that grew its wealth on slavery and colonization, and benefit today from those actions even as I move in racist spaces. I work for a corporation that my team has delivered demands to. We work everyday with platforms owned by companies that I think do awful, inhumane things. But I still have a responsibility to join in with and wave the flag of collective action whenever I can. Collective action is never perfect, and its almost always strategic. There, I don’t mean strategic in the strategy-game sense, I mean strategic as in recognizing the limits and hypocrisies of the action, and doing it anyway.
When we take strategic action—like strikes, protests, boycotts, etc.—we aren’t saying that we all agree. We obviously (as this thread shows) have disagreements large and small about how to go about changing the world. Those differences are both procedural and idealogical. That’s okay. But moments of strategic action are those where we say “okay, pause, for right now let’s be unified on this one big thing, and push.”

I genuinely think there is value in discussing different positions here. I know that in my own life, my family and I have been in positions where joining boycotts would severely harm our household. I can’t look back and scold my mother for making sure I could eat and that she could pay rent those months. What I can do is that now—as Editor-in-Chief of this site and as someone who thankfully has been given the means to make independent economic choices thanks to all of your support—is say that the team at Waypoint will continue to take a stand here today, and tomorrow if the strike continues.

Thanks for your patience everyone. As you continue the conversation here, please remember to consider your responses carefully and to speak to each other with clarity of purpose. I think there are real differences of opinion here, and they’re grounded in real differences in circumstance. But behind each is a desire to drag that better world (which we all know is possible) into existence. Let’s focus there, for now, and focus on sharing resources and strategies to bring more people into this large, arduous fight.

Thanks as always for your patience and support.Hey everyone,

It took me by surprise when, about 20 or 30 minutes into today’s stream, I caught someone in the chat saying that Prime day was still going. After all, when I did a search for it, what I saw was language like “Prime Day is a one-day only global shopping event exclusively for Prime members,” and when I first saw the online calls for support, many of them specifically called out the 16th as a day for cross-industry solidarity.

So, once we finished Hot Mic Mornings, we spent time getting updated on the situation. Turns out, as y’all know, Prime Day was always meant to continue through today and some folks are already suggesting that because of outages on Amazon’s side, it may wind up being extended even further.

The thing is, collective organization is always messy, especially when it’s decentralized and multi-national. And corporate language is always misleading—Amazon’s “one day” language on a multi-day sale is an example of a strategy explicitly meant to entice shoppers into thinking their opportunity for purchase is limited. But we cannot let the inconsistency of organizational language or the misleading sales rhetoric of a company to be cover for inaction or faux-ignorance.

While this combination of mixed messaging from organizers and confusion around Prime Day’s length and timing led to us streaming this morning, now that we’re clear on it all, we can and must do the right thing and cancel today’s XCOM stream, and hold off on any other streams during this moment of solidarity with Amazon’s workers.

There’s been a lot of interesting debate in this thread about what we should do as a site and also about what we as individuals can, should, and must do. I can answer the plans for the former, and as for the latter, I can give my very personal answer.

The team doesn’t feel comfortable streaming to some other platform during this strike. Partially, that’s because we have ongoing issues with other services. And partially that’s because whether intentionally or not, that would be us using the strike to test out other platforms, which goes against the goal of solidarity in this moment.

As an individual, I know that I am always-already compromised. I live in a country that grew its wealth on slavery and colonization, and benefit today from those actions even as I move in racist spaces. I work for a corporation that my team has delivered demands to. We work everyday with platforms owned by companies that I think do awful, inhumane things. But I still have a responsibility to join in with and wave the flag of collective action whenever I can. Collective action is never perfect, and its almost always strategic. There, I don’t mean strategic in the strategy-game sense, I mean strategic as in recognizing the limits and hypocrisies of the action, and doing it anyway.
When we take strategic action—like strikes, protests, boycotts, etc.—we aren’t saying that we all agree. We obviously (as this thread shows) have disagreements large and small about how to go about changing the world. Those differences are both procedural and idealogical. That’s okay. But moments of strategic action are those where we say “okay, pause, for right now let’s be unified on this one big thing, and push.”

I genuinely think there is value in discussing different positions here. I know that in my own life, my family and I have been in positions where joining boycotts would severely harm our household. I can’t look back and scold my mother for making sure I could eat and that she could pay rent those months. What I can do is that now—as Editor-in-Chief of this site and as someone who thankfully has been given the means to make independent economic choices thanks to all of your support—is say that the team at Waypoint will continue to take a stand here today, and tomorrow if the strike continues.

Thanks for your patience everyone. As you continue the conversation here, please remember to consider your responses carefully and to speak to each other with clarity of purpose. I think there are real differences of opinion here, and they’re grounded in real differences in circumstance. But behind each is a desire to drag that better world (which we all know is possible) into existence. Let’s focus there, for now, and focus on sharing resources and strategies to bring more people into this large, arduous fight.

Thanks as always for your patience and support.

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« Reply #21814 on: July 17, 2018, 02:07:17 PM »
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Hey everyone,

It took me by surprise when, about 20 or 30 minutes into today’s stream, I caught someone in the chat saying that Prime day was still going. After all, when I did a search for it, what I saw was language like “Prime Day is a one-day only global shopping event exclusively for Prime members,” and when I first saw the online calls for support, many of them specifically called out the 16th as a day for cross-industry solidarity.

So, once we finished Hot Mic Mornings, we spent time getting updated on the situation. Turns out, as y’all know, Prime Day was always meant to continue through today and some folks are already suggesting that because of outages on Amazon’s side, it may wind up being extended even further.

The thing is, collective organization is always messy, especially when it’s decentralized and multi-national. And corporate language is always misleading—Amazon’s “one day” language on a multi-day sale is an example of a strategy explicitly meant to entice shoppers into thinking their opportunity for purchase is limited. But we cannot let the inconsistency of organizational language or the misleading sales rhetoric of a company to be cover for inaction or faux-ignorance.

While this combination of mixed messaging from organizers and confusion around Prime Day’s length and timing led to us streaming this morning, now that we’re clear on it all, we can and must do the right thing and cancel today’s XCOM stream, and hold off on any other streams during this moment of solidarity with Amazon’s workers.

There’s been a lot of interesting debate in this thread about what we should do as a site and also about what we as individuals can, should, and must do. I can answer the plans for the former, and as for the latter, I can give my very personal answer.

The team doesn’t feel comfortable streaming to some other platform during this strike. Partially, that’s because we have ongoing issues with other services. And partially that’s because whether intentionally or not, that would be us using the strike to test out other platforms, which goes against the goal of solidarity in this moment.

As an individual, I know that I am always-already compromised. I live in a country that grew its wealth on slavery and colonization, and benefit today from those actions even as I move in racist spaces. I work for a corporation that my team has delivered demands to. We work everyday with platforms owned by companies that I think do awful, inhumane things. But I still have a responsibility to join in with and wave the flag of collective action whenever I can. Collective action is never perfect, and its almost always strategic. There, I don’t mean strategic in the strategy-game sense, I mean strategic as in recognizing the limits and hypocrisies of the action, and doing it anyway.
When we take strategic action—like strikes, protests, boycotts, etc.—we aren’t saying that we all agree. We obviously (as this thread shows) have disagreements large and small about how to go about changing the world. Those differences are both procedural and idealogical. That’s okay. But moments of strategic action are those where we say “okay, pause, for right now let’s be unified on this one big thing, and push.”

I genuinely think there is value in discussing different positions here. I know that in my own life, my family and I have been in positions where joining boycotts would severely harm our household. I can’t look back and scold my mother for making sure I could eat and that she could pay rent those months. What I can do is that now—as Editor-in-Chief of this site and as someone who thankfully has been given the means to make independent economic choices thanks to all of your support—is say that the team at Waypoint will continue to take a stand here today, and tomorrow if the strike continues.

Thanks for your patience everyone. As you continue the conversation here, please remember to consider your responses carefully and to speak to each other with clarity of purpose. I think there are real differences of opinion here, and they’re grounded in real differences in circumstance. But behind each is a desire to drag that better world (which we all know is possible) into existence. Let’s focus there, for now, and focus on sharing resources and strategies to bring more people into this large, arduous fight.

Thanks as always for your patience and support.Hey everyone,

It took me by surprise when, about 20 or 30 minutes into today’s stream, I caught someone in the chat saying that Prime day was still going. After all, when I did a search for it, what I saw was language like “Prime Day is a one-day only global shopping event exclusively for Prime members,” and when I first saw the online calls for support, many of them specifically called out the 16th as a day for cross-industry solidarity.

So, once we finished Hot Mic Mornings, we spent time getting updated on the situation. Turns out, as y’all know, Prime Day was always meant to continue through today and some folks are already suggesting that because of outages on Amazon’s side, it may wind up being extended even further.

The thing is, collective organization is always messy, especially when it’s decentralized and multi-national. And corporate language is always misleading—Amazon’s “one day” language on a multi-day sale is an example of a strategy explicitly meant to entice shoppers into thinking their opportunity for purchase is limited. But we cannot let the inconsistency of organizational language or the misleading sales rhetoric of a company to be cover for inaction or faux-ignorance.

While this combination of mixed messaging from organizers and confusion around Prime Day’s length and timing led to us streaming this morning, now that we’re clear on it all, we can and must do the right thing and cancel today’s XCOM stream, and hold off on any other streams during this moment of solidarity with Amazon’s workers.

There’s been a lot of interesting debate in this thread about what we should do as a site and also about what we as individuals can, should, and must do. I can answer the plans for the former, and as for the latter, I can give my very personal answer.

The team doesn’t feel comfortable streaming to some other platform during this strike. Partially, that’s because we have ongoing issues with other services. And partially that’s because whether intentionally or not, that would be us using the strike to test out other platforms, which goes against the goal of solidarity in this moment.

As an individual, I know that I am always-already compromised. I live in a country that grew its wealth on slavery and colonization, and benefit today from those actions even as I move in racist spaces. I work for a corporation that my team has delivered demands to. We work everyday with platforms owned by companies that I think do awful, inhumane things. But I still have a responsibility to join in with and wave the flag of collective action whenever I can. Collective action is never perfect, and its almost always strategic. There, I don’t mean strategic in the strategy-game sense, I mean strategic as in recognizing the limits and hypocrisies of the action, and doing it anyway.
When we take strategic action—like strikes, protests, boycotts, etc.—we aren’t saying that we all agree. We obviously (as this thread shows) have disagreements large and small about how to go about changing the world. Those differences are both procedural and idealogical. That’s okay. But moments of strategic action are those where we say “okay, pause, for right now let’s be unified on this one big thing, and push.”

I genuinely think there is value in discussing different positions here. I know that in my own life, my family and I have been in positions where joining boycotts would severely harm our household. I can’t look back and scold my mother for making sure I could eat and that she could pay rent those months. What I can do is that now—as Editor-in-Chief of this site and as someone who thankfully has been given the means to make independent economic choices thanks to all of your support—is say that the team at Waypoint will continue to take a stand here today, and tomorrow if the strike continues.

Thanks for your patience everyone. As you continue the conversation here, please remember to consider your responses carefully and to speak to each other with clarity of purpose. I think there are real differences of opinion here, and they’re grounded in real differences in circumstance. But behind each is a desire to drag that better world (which we all know is possible) into existence. Let’s focus there, for now, and focus on sharing resources and strategies to bring more people into this large, arduous fight.

Thanks as always for your patience and support.

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Man being woke is hard fucking work if you have to type all that shit every time you fail to be 100% pure.

also: didnt read, lol

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« Reply #21815 on: July 17, 2018, 02:08:10 PM »
Oh, he didn't know Prime day was still going.

Maybe if he didn't do the bare minimum it wouldn't have been a problem?

Also,

"Oh, I work with companies that I despise and that stand against everything I'm about! That's just how it is, man!"

Come the fuck on.

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« Reply #21816 on: July 17, 2018, 02:12:22 PM »


:whatisthis

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"The thing is, collective organization is always messy, especially when it’s decentralized and multi-national. And corporate language is always misleading—Amazon’s “one day” language on a multi-day sale is an example of a strategy explicitly meant to entice shoppers into thinking their opportunity for purchase is limited. But we cannot let the inconsistency of organizational language or the misleading sales rhetoric of a company to be cover for inaction or faux-ignorance."



This guy is such a fuck.    :lol :lol :lol 

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« Reply #21817 on: July 17, 2018, 02:15:58 PM »
Waypoint should have been something worthwhile. Between Austin & Patrick, they could have done some really in-depth articles about different genres and games. Instead it's a shitposting website about anime and pseudo-activism.

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« Reply #21818 on: July 17, 2018, 02:23:04 PM »
Thanks for writing that up. If you have the Pms and any evidence, you could reasonably approach one of the numerous outlets. Granted, it would have less to do with the hypocrisy and more to do with the dick pic guy.
Yeah I still have some DMs and the email chain but at this point it don't think it would make much difference to anyone

Lol. You serious? You think people would forgive him for sweeping sexual harassment under the rug for a pal?


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« Reply #21820 on: July 17, 2018, 02:30:17 PM »
Lol. You serious? You think people would forgive him for sweeping sexual harassment under the rug for a pal?
Well more like who would report on it? Game sites aren't going to start snitching on one another. Hell they already circled their wagons for that dummy who got fired from guild wars, they'd do the same for this.

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« Reply #21821 on: July 17, 2018, 02:35:07 PM »
Lol. You serious? You think people would forgive him for sweeping sexual harassment under the rug for a pal?
Well more like who would report on it? Game sites aren't going to start snitching on one another. Hell they already circled their wagons for that dummy who got fired from guild wars, they'd do the same for this.

Waypoint might pick it up, I hear those guys are really progressive. True allies for women.

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« Reply #21822 on: July 17, 2018, 02:37:33 PM »
Lol. You serious? You think people would forgive him for sweeping sexual harassment under the rug for a pal?
Well more like who would report on it? Game sites aren't going to start snitching on one another. Hell they already circled their wagons for that dummy who got fired from guild wars, they'd do the same for this.

Waypoint might pick it up, I hear those guys are really progressive. True allies for women.

Waypoint doesn't even do news, just random long form essays. Motherboard is the actual gaming sub website for Vice. Which means, that when Waypoint finally dies, Vice won't give a fuck. They'll just tell Motherboard to copy more press releases from video game companies.

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« Reply #21823 on: July 17, 2018, 02:44:17 PM »
why not, they all threw nick robinson under the bus.

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« Reply #21824 on: July 17, 2018, 02:55:09 PM »
Because dredging up the past just to do harm to other people is for sick, unhappy people.
每天生气

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« Reply #21825 on: July 17, 2018, 02:57:06 PM »
REEE on suicide watch:

Quote from: President Obama
Democracy demands getting inside "the reality of people who are different than us."

"You can't do it if you insist that those who aren't like you because they're white, or because they're male...that somehow they lack standing to speak on certain matters."


https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1019233996943683591

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« Reply #21826 on: July 17, 2018, 02:57:19 PM »
Because dredging up the past just to do harm to other people is for sick, unhappy people.

Exactly, now hand over those PMs dude.  This is juicy.

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« Reply #21827 on: July 17, 2018, 03:00:08 PM »
Because dredging up the past just to do harm to other people is for sick, unhappy people.

Attorneys annihilated!



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« Reply #21828 on: July 17, 2018, 03:03:43 PM »
ree doesnt have the mental ability nor willingness to discuss or understand how complex mandela was as a person

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« Reply #21829 on: July 17, 2018, 03:04:18 PM »
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As an individual, I know that I am always-already compromised. I live in a country that grew its wealth on slavery and colonization, and benefit today from those actions even as I move in racist spaces. I work for a corporation that my team has delivered demands to. We work everyday with platforms owned by companies that I think do awful, inhumane things. But I still have a responsibility to join in with and wave the flag of collective action whenever I can. Collective action is never perfect, and its almost always strategic. There, I don’t mean strategic in the strategy-game sense, I mean strategic as in recognizing the limits and hypocrisies of the action, and doing it anyway.

When we take strategic action—like strikes, protests, boycotts, etc.—we aren’t saying that we all agree. We obviously (as this thread shows) have disagreements large and small about how to go about changing the world. Those differences are both procedural and idealogical. That’s okay. But moments of strategic action are those where we say “okay, pause, for right now let’s be unified on this one big thing, and push.”

I genuinely think there is value in discussing different positions here. I know that in my own life, my family and I have been in positions where joining boycotts would severely harm our household. I can’t look back and scold my mother for making sure I could eat and that she could pay rent those months. What I can do is that now—as Editor-in-Chief of this site and as someone who thankfully has been given the means to make independent economic choices thanks to all of your support—is say that the team at Waypoint will continue to take a stand here today, and tomorrow if the strike continues.
VIDEO GAMES

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« Reply #21830 on: July 17, 2018, 03:08:15 PM »
literally had no idea it was prime day, or even remembered that prime day even existed until these twitch protest wokepieces started rolling out. now i'm contemplating spending £75 on a new keyboard.

well played jeff.

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« Reply #21831 on: July 17, 2018, 03:11:40 PM »
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Collective action is never perfect, and its almost always strategic. There, I don’t mean strategic in the strategy-game sense, I mean strategic as in recognizing the limits and hypocrisies of the action, and doing it anyway.
wait, what

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« Reply #21832 on: July 17, 2018, 03:19:52 PM »
he went to college, you see.

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« Reply #21833 on: July 17, 2018, 03:20:54 PM »
he went to college, you see.

Not just college. A Masters degree. In CANADA.

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« Reply #21834 on: July 17, 2018, 03:22:02 PM »
Autlsm Walker

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« Reply #21835 on: July 17, 2018, 03:27:39 PM »
he went to college, you see.

Not just college. A Masters degree. In CANADA.

Corporate speech major?

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« Reply #21836 on: July 17, 2018, 03:30:06 PM »
he went to college, you see.

Not just college. A Masters degree. In CANADA.

Corporate speech major?

Yes, but not in the strategy-game sense, more like the say and do the hypocritical thing sense.

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« Reply #21837 on: July 17, 2018, 03:32:15 PM »
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Trevor Noah is a South African comedian known for his activism in opposition to racism. The framing of this OP is entirely at odds with the context and intent of this commentary.

The last what I thought was sane person on era staff just went completely lacking in mental fortitude.

holy fuck

those indictments must be insane.
shut the fuck up with this shit already

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« Reply #21838 on: July 17, 2018, 03:34:37 PM »
Like half the internet is down. Discord, resetera, snapchat, target, rocket league...

Ironically downdetector isn't working either.

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« Reply #21839 on: July 17, 2018, 03:36:12 PM »
AWS took a shit again?

Thank god the bore is a lone island staying alive in this traumatic time