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[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smash-has-70-characters-but-not-1-black-or-brown-fighter.78459/

Sakurai ain't slick

Nope, Nintendo guy is perfect and amazing, thread locked.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smash-has-70-characters-but-not-1-black-or-brown-fighter.78459/

Sakurai ain't slick

Checkmate

Edit: Oh shit
https://www.resetera.com/posts/14486245
User Banned (Duration Pending): Racist Trolling; Junior phase account

[agrajag]

Bottoms up, actors.

[agrajag]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smash-has-70-characters-but-not-1-black-or-brown-fighter.78459/

Sakurai ain't slick

(Image removed from quote.)

Checkmate

Edit: Oh shit
https://www.resetera.com/posts/14486245
User Banned (Duration Pending): Racist Trolling; Junior phase account

I feel like I've seen this joke before on Old GAF (with Besada, Mumei, Charlequin, Steve Youngblood worst of all) and that post wasn't even considered controversial.

[Jenkem]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smash-has-70-characters-but-not-1-black-or-brown-fighter.78459/

Sakurai ain't slick

(Image removed from quote.)

Checkmate

Reported.

Enjoy the ban.

[agrajag]

I got 52% Republican looooool.

I am a hardcore liberal but I am also a post-grad straight white male catholic in the mid-west burbs

Cheebo needs to sit down and listen.

[clothedmacuser]

Gather round its


https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-please-stop-using-the-word-boys-to-address-the-room.78465/

Op is asked to provide receipts of this constantly happening and totally chickens out

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14489632

I can assure you I don't enjoy making threads like this.

 

[clothedmacuser]

If you say "boys" to a group of women, that's misgendering them. Especially trans women.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14492257

Eh, maybe that is true but these chicas need to join the real world.

[Uncle]

I love a good roundup



Seems like word of mod is "there are no black characters in Smash, therefore anyone considering the question or suggesting a character is doing so quite racistly"

Some of them seem to be genuine attempts at an answer

Some of them, I thought it was pretty well established that some characters are black even if they don't look black, like everyone knows Piccolo is black

Knuckles isn't a fighter in Smash but he's black too

Inkling boy and Villager are just straight up black even though that's not the default skin for them

Buncha shit

[I'm a Puppy!]

wasn't there a thread on reset or gaf about how Donkey Kong was a black character?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Donkey Kong is an ape.

[Transhuman]

The issue isn't Nintendo, it's media in general. How many toys were there in the Toy Story movies? And not one of them was black. At least Nintendo has the excuse of being culturally distinct from America.

[agrajag]

Mike Tyson from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! is black

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The issue isn't Nintendo, it's media in general. How many toys were there in the Toy Story movies? And not one of them was black. At least Nintendo has the excuse of being culturally distinct from America.

Pretty sure mr potatoe is black

[railGUN]

Evilore hasn't posted in the Political Discussion sub-forum on GAF in almost two months... I wonder why...

People are just crazy. You can't even call them black or you're a racist. You have to call them Afroamericans instead. I'm not American, I'm European. From my point of you you guys are totally crazy.
I think black people had better reputation in 80s and 90s. It's getting worse every year, the same goes for Latinos. I think most people know the answer but it's brutal and the whites aren't responsible for it.

... oh.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Been a few hours since he said it, havent seen a threat yet.

Specially from that piece of trash.

[agrajag]

Frylock is black for sure. Not sure about Meatwad.

[remy]

Cracking open a cold one with the lifeforms.

The lifeforms are back in town 

[Assimilate]

Frylock is black for sure. Not sure about Meatwad.

you mean the people behind the voices? yeah frylock was a black dude. I do not think meatwad was, I think shake and meatwad were voiced by the same guy

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Cracking open a cold one with the lifeforms.

The lifeforms are back in town 

its chase its

[clothedmacuser]

If no one's ever talked to you about your male privilege you should find a better social circle.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14495609

[Cauliflower Of Love]

that's sephyr from neogaf right?

lol

[stufte]

If my social circle included people whining about privilege to me, I'd nope out of said social circle in an instant.

[stufte]

Pretty much the same response I'd have if people were trying to recruit me into a cult.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Pretty much the same response I'd have if people were trying to recruit me into a cult.

You post at a known hate cult site.

[Transhuman]

Frylock is black for sure. Not sure about Meatwad.

you mean the people behind the voices? yeah frylock was a black dude. I do not think meatwad was, I think shake and meatwad were voiced by the same guy

Frylock the character is a black man as well though. His personification is black and even his "fry hair" is seeming to be visually reminiscent of dreadlocks.

[clothedmacuser]

Frylock is black for sure. Not sure about Meatwad.

you mean the people behind the voices? yeah frylock was a black dude. I do not think meatwad was, I think shake and meatwad were voiced by the same guy

Frylock the character is a black man as well though. His personification is black and even his "fry hair" is seems to be visually reminiscent of dreadlocks.

I remember a co-worker describing the show to another person and he said Frylock was a black dude.  I dropped my jaw and wondered how I never noticed that for a decade.

Oh yea, I don't see race. 

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%9Ccotton-pickin%E2%80%9D-black-pepper-sauce-offensive.78478/

"my wife is hotsauce harley"

[Uncle]

For all their woke posturing they don't know that mumbo jumbo is a racist phrase?

There's people randomly speculating on it and saying it's just the name of a jazz song 

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-wins-best-publisher-at-tiga-awards.78485/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/14496122/

Most members are not going to be familiar with what TIGA is or what this award means. Any new thread on the subject should include that context and the other winners.

Lol it's loudninja he won't say shit about anyone but sony. You'd think they would shut the shills down but alas

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14485597/

... The game was developed in Japan by Japanese people and published by a Japanese company.

All those bans but this gets a pass? It's a product made for a worldwide audience and that excuse is laf

[BikeJesus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cbc-to-air-documentary-on-jordan-peterson’s-rise-friday-9pm.78539/

He only deserves a platform in Hell.

Daddy P really triggers them.

[Raist]

wasn't there a thread on reset or gaf about how Donkey Kong was a black character?

Sort of?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-donkey-kong-racist.22805/

[clothedmacuser]

This thread has gone on far too long with insults and accusations. As a result, it will now be closed.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-please-stop-using-the-word-boys-to-address-the-room.78465/


Or, Sugar Noodles has been a belligerent idiot and the mods are swooping in to save him so he can get a "self requested" time out.

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamers-people-who-play-games-same-thing.78545/

"I told you! I'm not a "gamer" . Please, stop accusing me of being one just because I...

...follow the industry closely everyday
...follow game developers on social media
...join in on 100+ page long threads about the newest game release
...pre-order games on a regular basis
...buy game DLC and MTX
...am always excited big industry events like E3, and even obscure events like Tokyo Game Show
...am willing to watch bad streams late into the night for some game announcement
...spending hours each day on a gaming centric forum"

What's worst is that that is all true, yet they slather on the smugness declaring with absolute confidence it is not true, and the people saying otherwise are the idiots for pointing it out.

[agrajag]

Frylock is black for sure. Not sure about Meatwad.

you mean the people behind the voices? yeah frylock was a black dude. I do not think meatwad was, I think shake and meatwad were voiced by the same guy

No, I mean the character. Frylock was definitely a black guy.

[PogiJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamers-people-who-play-games-same-thing.78545/

"I told you! I'm not a "gamer" . Please, stop accusing me of being one just because I...

...follow the industry closely everyday
...follow game developers on social media
...join in on 100+ page long threads about the newest game release
...pre-order games on a regular basis
...buy game DLC and MTX
...am always excited big industry events like E3, and even obscure events like Tokyo Game Show
...am willing to watch bad streams late into the night for some game announcement
...spending hours each day on a gaming centric forum"

What's worst is that that is all true, yet they slather on the smugness declaring with absolute confidence it is not true, and the people saying otherwise are the idiots for pointing it out.

Nah, in this case, I actually understand the sentiment. Sometimes words start to evoke more of an image over time than the original meaning. For example, in the 1920's, I'd be considered a feminist, because I support equal rights for women. But over time, especially in the last decade, the term "feminist" has started to take on further implications besides just egalitarianism, mostly due to some prominent feminists starting to espouse more extremist views. So while I may fit the bill of what "feminist" meant originally, I no longer would label myself a feminist in these days, because that label now evokes an image that is untrue of me.

So I can understand how some people feel that "gamer" now evokes meaning beyond just "is really into games," and therefore think the label's new meaning doesn't properly describe them.

As for me, I just don't usually call myself a gamer because I consider the label too nerdy. 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

If no one's ever talked to you about your male privilege you should find a better social circle.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14495609

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/games-where-both-the-protagonist-and-the-villain-are-women.78489/

MGS2?

I hope this isn't a jab at Raiden's masculinity fam

 

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lets-retire-the-word-gamer-2013-gamasutra-opinion-piece.78561/page-2

So question for all the people who watches movies or listen to music, are you moviers or musickers? See? That's how dumb it looks when you consider yourself a "gamer" for playing games.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lets-retire-the-word-gamer-2013-gamasutra-opinion-piece.78561/

To be honest, just to be a member of Resetera is a horrible association.

Each day I see people referring this forum as a hate group. And some posts in this thread corroborate that.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hey-art-teachers-stop-discouraging-students-love-for-anime-and-manga-art.78505/page-5#post-14503824

My art teacher thought anime was trash and had no value.

I changed his mind by showing him Grave of the Fireflies.

 

checkmate atheists

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamers-people-who-play-games-same-thing.78545/page-8#post-14504499

What people would like to identify themselves as is up to them. They can identify as a footballer if they like even if they can't kick a ball to save their life.

My issue lies with people labelling other people as gamers, simply because they play games - as most of the general public do in one form or another.

you are talking like it's some kind of offense.

the meaning of the word of the dictionary is clear so i don't really see the issue with people using it in the appropriate context, it would be up to the "mislabeled" person to precise that they don't like to be addressed as such

change in language and meaning of a word don't happen just because you want to.

It is offensive to label people in a way they choose not to identify, yes.

no it's not.
you just politely tell them you don't consider that label to correctly describe you and move on with your life.

especially since whatever offensive attribute your are adding to the meaning of the word is totally on you and not what the rest of the world agrees that word means

Imagine talking to a trans person like that

I know it's not the same, but ultimately people can identify as whatever they want to, and if someone wants to distance themselves from the toxic aspects of being a gamer, then why should anyone tell them "sorry, you have to conform to what I say thanks"

Edit: I misread your post so ignore my first line, my second paragraph still stands

you are free to not identify as a gamer and ask people to not call you that if you want to distance yourself from wahtever thing you consider is associated with the word.

what you have no right to is being offended and angry because of them calling you by the vocabulary definition of the word, at least before you make them know that you don't agree with the generally agreed upon meaning.

The N word also has a vocabulary definition of an African American person. I don't use it

are you really, seriously, comparing the n word and all the history behind it's use to the fact that some users here on era (and i suppose someone else too on the internet) suddenly decided that all the gamers are misogynistics racist assholes and wanna change the menaing of the word to reflect that?

wow

Yes

WOW

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

If no one's ever talked to you about your gamer privilege you should find a better social circle.

[PogiJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lets-retire-the-word-gamer-2013-gamasutra-opinion-piece.78561/

To be honest, just to be a member of Resetera is a horrible association.

Each day I see people referring this forum as a hate group. And some posts in this thread corroborate that.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamers-people-who-play-games-same-thing.78545/page-9

Gamers: Why do you have to mention that you're a woman, homosexual, minority? Why are you labeling yourself in a box. I just want to play games!

Also Gamers: WHY WON'T YOU LABEL YOURSELF AS A GAMER?

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[Cauliflower Of Love]

Your a loser if your older than 12 and pigeon hole yourself as a -er of anything.

-hater

[bork]

Thread just keeps on giving.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamers-people-who-play-games-same-thing.78545/page-9

Thing is, nobody is a gamer here. More like posters. Or Posers

It's funny how the GamerGate crowd never saw Anita Sarkeesian as a fellow gamer when she clearly must have played some video games.

Meanwhile I casually play football in the park with a few mates and the nephews on Saturdays and no one insists I am a footballer. What's the deal with that?

 

If you want to get really technical, games is a poor word to represent the entire medium.

But then now and again someone associates being a gamer with something else, something mean spirited, and they try to make their views the dominant ones. GG is a vile movemement, but I have to be honest, I only hear about it online. Very few of my friends who have always been gamers have heard of it, many kids around 13-15 years have never heard of it. It can be a huge thing online, and something that does a lot of harm, but my impression is that most people have never heard of it, and don't know what it is.

Once again downplaying GG, and making it out not to be a big deal for gaming... all in the name of decrying that some people dare not want to be associated with the culture

 

[bork]

Always found it funny when people on this forum go " I'm not a gamer."

Ok dude, you post on a videogame forum where people discuss the sales in the industry, get "hyped" over trailers, and where conference threads end up getting over a 100 pages. Oh and you need a special email to sign up for this site and need verification. But you're not a gamer.

Here is another idea, some people come here because it is one of the few places where blatant bigotry of any kind is not allowed.  Most sites are usually full of fucktards it is nice to somewhere you encounters with these lowlifes are at a minimum.

 

[HaughtyFrank]

 

She had it figured it out after all. I'll stop identifying as "white" just because of my genes and skin color. There's just too many racist white people out there so I don't like the connotation. Also I'll get really offended if someone tries to label me as white.

[bork]

She had it figured it out after all. I'll stop identifying as "white" just because of my genes and skin color. There's just too many racist white people out there so I don't like the connotation. Also I'll get really offended if someone tries to label me as white.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gamers-people-who-play-games-same-thing.78545/page-9

I don't care about what it technically means, bigoted ass white folk have have made sure that I want absolutely nothing to do with the term. That whole "gamer" sub culture is cringe, full of incels, neck beards, monster energy, doritos, toxicity, its 99% White and trash. No thanks.

 

It's hilarious because this forum is literally the only place anywhere in the hobby where you can avoid it or that it's at least balanced out. I'm not surprised that some people here don't want the term on them. Plenty of neutral or even positive things have become a symbol of fuck shit. "Gamer" is going in that direction and I'm 100% okay with it.

Once again downplaying GG, and making it out not to be a big deal for gaming... all in the name of decrying that some people dare not want to be associated with the culture

If you're just gonna twist the point I was making into something that will fit your assumptions, I'm just not gonna bother.

Even if you're right that gamergate is hardly known in mainstream, thjat really has nothing to do with anything when it's the gaming community specifically and how they dealt with it that led to people like me distancing themselves from the gamer term and the community as a whole.

The idea that Gamergate isn't well known by the mainstream keeps getting repeated as an argument in defense of the idea that "you're a gamer if you like it or not"  more than once here and if you didn't intend to downplay GG then know that that's how it comes across.

Here's one thing I don't get:

If these scumbags are so anonymous and/or quantitatively insufficient, how come no one didn't do anything to snuff them out?

Why aren't the majority of the "good" gamers standing with those who had harassment campaigns against them?

Why aren't the corporations, who apparently don't fear being sued due to working conditions, run away with their tails between their legs if a GGer so much as huffs?

Why is there more pushback against people who don't want to call themselves gamers instead of pushback against the main reason they refuse to call themselves that?

Like the roaches in the gaming culture can be quashed so easily yet no one wants to be the to do it. Why?

No but the biggest issue seems to be people who don't call themselves gamers because gamers burned them

 

The argument against being a gamer is pathetic. If you play games you are a gamer, that's it. Just like if I go to a running club i'm a runner or a bowling club, I'm a bowler.  Trying to dodge and saying you don't want to associate with it does not change that you are it.

Tying your identity to a hobby is stupid

USERS WERE BANNED FOR MAKING TOO MUCH SENSE

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

> talking about a gamasutra article about "let's retire the word gamer"
> talking about gamergate as a relevant thing

[nachobro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smash-ultimate-has-74-characters-but-0-black-brown-ones.78580/

Try #2 to see if people give a shit (they don't)

[MMaRsu]

Lol I got banned on neogaf

I was saying how people who use the term NPC to insult other people are fucking idiots. Basically. I said I guess the "Alt right" needed new insults because SJW/Snowflake/Cuck had run its course.

I got banned for "insulting the community".

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/smash-ultimate-has-74-characters-but-0-black-brown-ones.78580/

Try #2 to see if people give a shit (they don't)

This seems very problematic to me and I hope it gets adressed by Nintendo asap

100% a troll post but I think it's worded just well enough that the mods won't be able to do anything about it

[BisMarckie]

Lol I got banned on neogaf

I was saying how people who use the term NPC to insult other people are fucking idiots. Basically. I said I guess the "Alt right" needed new insults because SJW/Snowflake/giant dad had run its course.

I got banned for "insulting the community".

[bork]

Lol I got banned on neogaf

I was saying how people who use the term NPC to insult other people are fucking idiots. Basically. I said I guess the "Alt right" needed new insults because SJW/Snowflake/giant dad had run its course.

I got banned for "insulting the community".

User was banned for this post: Not posting links to thread 

[MMaRsu]

It was in the Kotaku doesnt know about npcs thread. Im on mobile but banned but wont clear cookies right now.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

It was in the Kotaku doesnt know about npcs thread. Im on mobile but banned but wont clear cookies right now.

lmao, that thread isn't even about the npc meme, its about a stupid kotaku op-ed saying that red Dead Redemption 2 should be the fucking matrix or some shit where NPCs are all sentient and doing their own shit ignoring anything the player is up to

edit:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ironically-kotaku-doesnt-understand-the-concept-of-npcs-at-all-or-further-proof-that-their-staff-doesnt-really-know-much-about-games.1467480/post-253543166

I assume you're RyuCookingSomeRice and got got for this:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ironically-kotaku-doesnt-understand-the-concept-of-npcs-at-all-or-further-proof-that-their-staff-doesnt-really-know-much-about-games.1467480/post-253546074

...dumbasses.

...Fucking douchenozzles

...distinguished mentally-challenged.

...just idiots ..."Alt Right"

Asserting your intellectual superiority by throwing around insults... please stop embarrassing yourselves.

[nachobro]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

If its wrong to laugh at this

I don't want to be right