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[EightBitNate]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-4chan-finally-getting-the-investigation-it-deserves-posting-shut-off-for-48-hours.38527/

this thread is already great. Bonus appearance already.

[Propagandhim]

They hacked my Geocities blog!  I swears!  Webmaster, we got a hacker on our hands - put a hold on all traffic and shut the guestbook down so we can investigate. 

[REDPILLALPH ABIGCOCK]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-4chan-finally-getting-the-investigation-it-deserves-posting-shut-off-for-48-hours.38527/

this thread is already great. Bonus appearance already.

the bad people will just create another site or something.

i mean, do you realize where we are?
 

accidental self awareness

[nachobro]

I sorta get the outrage about the WWE Saudi thing but I honestly just can't take any complaints about it seriously from people who watch like 7+ hours a week of WWE content plus 4 hour monthly PPVs for the sole reason of bitching and moaning about how bad it sucks. This doesn't just go for Resetti but for other forums, Reddit, and even wrasslin podcasts and news sites.

People lost their mind about the relatively minor issue of one match at Wrestlemania being named after a dead wrassle hag but will still watch this five hour show to complain about it even though the Saudis are pure evil or whatever. I guess they are getting one over on the man by pirating it but that's really the definition of slacktivism to the max. Hell it's even beyond that in laziness since an actual slacktivist would just not watch the show.

[FStop7]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-greatest-royal-rumble-ot-new-orleans-bury-me-softly-jeddah.38513/

Some interesting names posting about watching a problematic wrestling show.

Strange, seeing as how the WWE was the Trump campaign's largest donor.

You'd think someone so vehemently against Trump would stop supporting a corporation who played a major part in getting Donald Trump elected.

 

More so, the event that thread is about is exceptional:  A Saudi bigshot is bankrolling the whole thing.  Women are forbidden from participating.  I think that's fucked up enough to where I'll skip it.  Normally I don't give two shits about armchair slacktivism but this really put me off.  Seeing the loudest slacktivist of all chirping away, obviously intending on watching the show, is pretty funny.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-greatest-royal-rumble-ot-new-orleans-bury-me-softly-jeddah.38513/

Some interesting names posting about watching a problematic wrestling show.

Strange, seeing as how the WWE was the Trump campaign's largest donor.

You'd think someone so vehemently against Trump would stop supporting a corporation who played a major part in getting Donald Trump elected.

 

More so, the event that thread is about is exceptional:  A Saudi bigshot is bankrolling the whole thing.  Women are forbidden from participating.  I think that's fucked up enough to where I'll skip it.  Normally I don't give two shits about armchair slacktivism but this really put me off.  Seeing the loudest slacktivist of all chirping away, obviously intending on watching the show, is pretty funny.

lol, look at all these marks not able to figure out this is a work. Nia Jax will show up during the middle of the event and elbow drop a Saudi prince through the Spanish announcers' table.

[Stro]

I sorta get the outrage about the WWE Saudi thing but I honestly just can't take any complaints about it seriously from people who watch like 7+ hours a week of WWE content plus 4 hour monthly PPVs for the sole reason of bitching and moaning about how bad it sucks. This doesn't just go for Resetti but for other forums, Reddit, and even wrasslin podcasts and news sites.

People lost their mind about the relatively minor issue of one match at Wrestlemania being named after a dead wrassle hag but will still watch this five hour show to complain about it even though the Saudis are pure evil or whatever. I guess they are getting one over on the man by pirating it but that's really the definition of slacktivism to the max. Hell it's even beyond that in laziness since an actual slacktivist would just not watch the show.

I mean yeah it's pretty shameless and shows how much they really care about the WOMEN'S EVOLUTION stuff they hammer so hard, but at the same time it's pro wrestling who gives a shit. Also they've been running shows in KSA for 4 years without anyone getting their titties in a twist.

[nachobro]

$20 million is $20 million so I can't blame Vince there. I'll be watching the VOD of it on the network but it just cracks me up to see the internet wrasslin world be so up in arms with outrage and yet still carving out time to watch it live while complaining about how "WWE doesn't REALLY care about women". Bitch, neither do you so shaddup.

[archie4208]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wwe-greatest-royal-rumble-ot-new-orleans-bury-me-softly-jeddah.38513/

Some interesting names posting about watching a problematic wrestling show.

Strange, seeing as how the WWE was the Trump campaign's largest donor.

You'd think someone so vehemently against Trump would stop supporting a corporation who played a major part in getting Donald Trump elected.

 

More so, the event that thread is about is exceptional:  A Saudi bigshot is bankrolling the whole thing.  Women are forbidden from participating.  I think that's fucked up enough to where I'll skip it.  Normally I don't give two shits about armchair slacktivism but this really put me off.  Seeing the loudest slacktivist of all chirping away, obviously intending on watching the show, is pretty funny.

lol, look at all these marks not able to figure out this is a work. Nia Jax will show up during the middle of the event and elbow drop a Saudi prince through the Spanish announcers' table.

https://twitter.com/hulkhogan/status/125437560418865152

[stufte]

Yes, toxic masculinity.

lol

[thetylerrob]

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/989211926851981313

lol

[stufte]

What's so funny about the term?

I'm not here to educate you! PAY ME, BITCH.

[nachobro]

Yes reconciling the fact the most popular "community" thread on reset is a form of entertainment that embodies sexism, toxic masculinity and racism is pretty difficult.

I actually don't think it embodies any of that in the modern era and that doesn't actually have much to do with what you quoted anyway. It's just the hypocrisy around the nonsense for this PPV on Resetti that I find eye-roll inducing.

[Kurt Russell]

Yeah what the fuck does it even mean?

You can have a non-toxic masculinity? What's that then?

Stupid made-up phrase.

[stufte]

I mean like any concept in my opinion people take things too far;  personally think there is nothing wrong with some of the basics of gender roles, including some expectation of men being more "tough" or whatever (while some would label even that toxic, which I would ask, what is masculinity then on it's own?).  But if you actually think that concept can't become something toxic, I just think that's stupid.  The expectation of being tough falls apart when a man goes through something horrible and has no support or hasn't learned how to cope with emotions;  tends to instead turn everything into misplaced anger.  Which of course can happen to anyone man or woman but tends to be more prevalent in men.   That's not to mention the use of violence to solve problems being something that can fairly obviously be toxic, and is certainly tied to masculinity.   Which is basically the entire setup for the WWE's "plots"; "you took my girl!  me hurt you!"

I agree with everything you've said. but the term is rarely used appropriately and is almost always used to describe anything that is not passively feminine, and is most certainly a shorthand for "anything manly that isn't progressive".

[nachobro]

Strange, seeing as how the WWE was the Trump campaign's largest donor.

You'd think someone so vehemently against Trump would stop supporting a corporation who played a major part in getting Donald Trump elected.

 

Well now we know who's reading the bore
https://www.resetera.com/posts/7190040/

[HardcoreRetro]

Must've never watched wrestling.

[nachobro]

"toxic masculinity" and "embrace of violence culture" to describe WWE cracks me up. It's less violent than fight scenes in movies and closer to acrobatics and theater than to any actual martial art or act of violence.

[archie4208]

I'm surprised Ree hasn't gone after New Japan for not having a women's division. 

[Optimus]

What's so funny about the term?

It's hostile, one-sided and usually used by imbeciles that want to shit on men. Both sexes have advantages and disadvantages, listening to idiot feminists talk about toxic masculinity makes you think that there's some kind of systemic societal problem just with men. I've talked about this before but what about toxic femininity? What about the insecurity, the passive-aggressive behavior, the narcissism, the propensity to play the victim and so on? Do we also focus on shitting on women, you know for equality, or can you geniuses finally drop this complete bullshit?

[thetylerrob]

The homo eroticism outweighs the toxic masculinity. HHH raped his wife on the show and now they do anti bullying campaigns, quit trying to look deeper into wrasslin.

[Stro]

I mean like any concept in my opinion people take things too far;  personally think there is nothing wrong with some of the basics of gender roles, including some expectation of men being more "tough" or whatever (while some would label even that toxic, which I would ask, what is masculinity then on it's own?).  But if you actually think that concept can't become something toxic, I just think that's stupid.  The expectation of being tough falls apart when a man goes through something horrible and has no support or hasn't learned how to cope with emotions;  tends to instead turn everything into misplaced anger.  Which of course can happen to anyone man or woman but tends to be more prevalent in men.   That's not to mention the use of violence to solve problems being something that can fairly obviously be toxic, and is certainly tied to masculinity.   Which is basically the entire setup for the WWE's "plots"; "you took my girl!  me hurt you!"

There hasn't been an angle like that in years. I literally can't even remember the last time there was one. The main storyline for 90% of WWE is "have 70 matches and hate each other after being booked against each other for months with no progression"

[nachobro]

WWE definitely loves the gays now too. I'm sure Vince would say being gay is "too sweet"

[HardcoreRetro]

At least I got to see someone bring out the much fabled Straw Man in this place.

[thetylerrob]

I mean like any concept in my opinion people take things too far;  personally think there is nothing wrong with some of the basics of gender roles, including some expectation of men being more "tough" or whatever (while some would label even that toxic, which I would ask, what is masculinity then on it's own?).  But if you actually think that concept can't become something toxic, I just think that's stupid.  The expectation of being tough falls apart when a man goes through something horrible and has no support or hasn't learned how to cope with emotions;  tends to instead turn everything into misplaced anger.  Which of course can happen to anyone man or woman but tends to be more prevalent in men.   That's not to mention the use of violence to solve problems being something that can fairly obviously be toxic, and is certainly tied to masculinity.   Which is basically the entire setup for the WWE's "plots"; "you took my girl!  me hurt you!"

There hasn't been an angle like that in years. I literally can't even remember the last time there was one. The main storyline for 90% of WWE is "have 70 matches and hate each other after being booked against each other for months with no progression"

What about that shitty Rusev, Lana, Summer Rae and Dolph Ziggly angle that was so shitty they had to break kayfabe to end it?

[nachobro]

it basically still is, but not as much with using women as pawns to tell those goofy stories. also they hit each other in the back with chairs instead. that's why i said "the modern era" in the post no one read cause it was at the bottom of the last page.

[HardcoreRetro]

a soap opera where they eventually hit each other over the head with chairs.

So, a soap opera?

[Stro]

The homo eroticism outweighs the toxic masculinity. HHH raped his wife on the show and now they do anti bullying campaigns, quit trying to look deeper into wrasslin.

That's not what happened. At all. It was an act by both Steph and HHH just to fuck with Vince. The whole marriage scene was a ruse. Stephanie wasn't passed out. She wasn't raped afterwards. She was in on it the whole time. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was revealed the whole set up was revealed to be her idea as she knew it would hurt her father the most.

[stufte]

if Wrestling is toxic masculinity, then Soap Operas are toxic femininity.   

[etiolate]

NEW KANYE THREAD


MAGA HAT ALERT

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

I always find it funny that the morally righteous people at ResetEra (and NeoGaf) didn't boycott the WWE after Linda Mcmahon was made head of the Small Business Administration in the Trump administration. Apparently this is nowhere wear as bad a Kanye tweeting that he doesn't completely hate Trump.

[studyguy]

hold on to my 808s bois, goin in 

[Optimus]

if Wrestling is toxic masculinity, then Soap Operas are toxic femininity.   

And Twilight, and 50 Shades, and almost every CW show, and every Shoda Rhimes show, and Oprah, and the Talk etc.

[etiolate]

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/989222392630202368

best comedy show since Roseanne

[agrajag]

Well no I haven't watched it in decades;  so maybe it's changed.  I had a roommate in the late 90s who would put it on and it was like a soap opera where they eventually hit each other over the head with chairs.

If you qualify being something similar to soap operas as a negative, then actual soap operas, that are targeted towards women, must be even worse. Checkmate, women.

[stufte]

I'm someone who has had anger issues, acted violently, etc. throughout my life who simply recognizes at least some of that likely stems from how I was "taught" to fill my gender role. 

Sounds more like toxic parenting to me. 

[HardcoreRetro]

Where does that Riverdale show fit in?

[studyguy]

Are anime tiddies in videogames more or less real than current WWE story arcs?

[Straight Edge]

Secret Codes

[thetylerrob]

I cant watch Finn Balor anymore because on one of the NXT takeovers he got lifted up and his asshole sweat was clearly visible through his trunks  . Meanwhile non hetero normative fans be like 

[Optimus]

What's so funny about the term?

It's hostile, one-sided and usually used by imbeciles that want to shit on men. Both sexes have advantages and disadvantages, listening to idiot feminists talk about toxic masculinity makes you think that there's some kind of systemic societal problem just with men. I've talked about this before but what about toxic femininity? What about the insecurity, the passive-aggressive behavior, the narcissism, the propensity to play the victim and so on? Do we also focus on shitting on women, you know for equality, or can you geniuses finally drop this complete bullshit?

Sure, why not both? 

I'm not saying I'm on the side of the typical actors who throw the term around, particularly on Re where you are a sexist pig non-ally if you dare like looking at naked women or something.  I'm just saying the term itself has meaning and is a real concept.

Because when women whine about men's bullshit it's feminist activism against toxic muscularity, when men whine about women's bullshit it's misogyny. So kindly fuck off with this double standard bullshit feminists.

But I imagine since men commit the vast majority of violent crimes, it's gonna get more focus lol

Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime compared to other races. So, do you want to talk about toxic blackness too or does that sound like something only a bigoted prick would do? Because it sure as hell sounds like that to me.

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/989222392630202368

best comedy show since Roseanne

https://twitter.com/notearsviolet/status/989225418942308352

[Great Rumbler]

Fake news! That was just the Russian bots that are no longer following his account looking for ways to attack him!

[etiolate]

you are missing the point as to why its only toxic masculinity

and not toxic femininity or whatever

This specific is no accident.

[stufte]

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/989222392630202368

best comedy show since Roseanne

https://twitter.com/notearsviolet/status/989225418942308352

fake news, just checked his twitter feed, and it's still at 27.8M

[Broseidon]

yes we should be able to criticise the females and the blacks more

[Optimus]

Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime compared to other races. So, do you want to talk about toxic blackness too or does that sound like something only a bigoted prick would do? Because it sure as hell sounds like that to me.

Toxic masculinity refers to how societal constructs / gender roles cause problems, not "men."  It's not bigoted in any way.

You are way too fucking sensitive about this;  joining the "threatened by this term" club with JayDumbfuck.

Oh, the term just describes society, not men. Then why, oh why, not call it toxic femininity for example? Or toxic pumpkin.  Why the focus on male traits? It must be a sheer coincidence, right?

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/989222392630202368

best comedy show since Roseanne

https://twitter.com/notearsviolet/status/989225418942308352

fake news, just checked his twitter feed, and it's still at 27.8M

check again

[Propagandhim]

fake news, just checked his twitter feed, and it's still at 27.8M

Clear your cookies or something

[stufte]

check again

yep, still 27.8M

and it's 27.8M on my phone.

[Propagandhim]

check again

yep, still 27.8M

and it's 27.8M on my phone.

Buy a new phone

[agrajag]

check again

yep, still 27.8M

and it's 27.8M on my phone.

clear your cookies. I just checked it, 18.7M

[stufte]

check again

yep, still 27.8M

and it's 27.8M on my phone.

Buy a new phone

DONE! I'll keep you updated on his follower count once the amazon delivery arrives.

[etiolate]

I wouldn't use or discuss toxic femininity. It's a ridiculous concept.

The way these terms are invented and then misused are not unrelated. They are designed to be misused. They have some weak, safe version of themselves while being designed to go far beyond that and into dangerous territory. They are created with rubber banding interpretation.

You could talk about anything worthwhile within the concept of "toxic masculinity" without using that term. Hell, people have for many, many years in far better ways. We're discussing failures of individuals.

[stufte]

check again

yep, still 27.8M

and it's 27.8M on my phone.

clear your cookies. I just checked it, 18.7M

did that, still 27.8M. your shit is glitched.

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/989237729966768128

[Mr Gilhaney]

9 mil snowflakes, that can't handle free independent thoughts.

[agrajag]

check again

yep, still 27.8M

and it's 27.8M on my phone.

clear your cookies. I just checked it, 18.7M

did that, still 27.8M. your shit is glitched.

nah. I never looked at his twitter before, my pc is less biased

[Nola]

Oh look, etiolate and Optimus are getting triggered by feminism and issues of intersectionality again, must be Wednesday....Or any other day of the week.

[Broseidon]

check again

yep, still 27.8M

and it's 27.8M on my phone.

clear your cookies. I just checked it, 18.7M

did that, still 27.8M. your shit is glitched.