Yeah, I think you need to do another lap on your rollerblades and come back to this.
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This game is just poison, we pretty much have to either put in on the banlist ot allow it to be posted as is. There really isn't a middle ground. If someone wants to make a thread condemning the game, they should be allowed, But we don't need people discussing the games merits or putting it on a pedestal.
This shit is actually trigger, in the proper sense of that word, trans folk and they are not happy about it.
People aren’t saying to pretend bad things don’t exist.It’s the opposite. They’re saying not to pretend they don’t have problems.Kingdom Come should have been on that list, for example. If The Last Night ever comes out, it should be on that list. And so on.
I really truly believed that the main thing they would address in this game was to fix the transphobic elements of the game, erasing the huge black mark against the game
Yea, despite worries about mistranslation, this looks bad enough that it should need to prove itself to be un-banned, not the other way around.
I'm really unsure whether to post this, as i don't want to derail.For the people that wish to have this game banned from the forum.Would you also be cool with banning H.P. Lovecaft's work, and anything related to him from this site ?
I mean, the ban list rule is not some unchangeable rule written by some uncontactable god.We could easily have a second list of games where defending/advertising is banned but criticism/critical discussion is not.I don’t think we were trying to say “nobody should be allowed to talk about how transphobic this is”.
new evidence is the involvement of corey booker and kamala harris!
I wonder which gaming outlets will have actual values and call this out.Then again Persona "94 Opencritic" 5 wasn't affected by that until well after release.
Can we at least not have threads advertising the game, such as OTs and trailer threads?
I feel like that's the best way to go about it, though I feel bad for the person who made the OT already.
I'm hoping the game at least mega bombs. Losing money is probably the only way they will learn.
Because I don't want to support him financially?This isn't hard to graspI'll just wiki the game
That actually reminds me. While Hashino likely won't get any money from Joker being in Smash, having two characters tied to homophobic creators back-to-back may not be a good look for Nintendo if "Brave" is who we think it is (& is Fighters Pass Character #2).
Well if enough pressure is thrown at SEGA, they can remove Hashino at any time since they own Atlus now. So there is a small chance something can be done now that Atlus answers to someone
I just don't understand. Do the japanese not care about issues like these at all???
I think there was a way to openly discuss fears and concerns, but those posting in bad faith in a manner that either directly or indirectly discredits the victim basically poisoned that well. Consider it another way in which the wrong people control the narrative by making bad faith discourse the default assumption.
User Banned (1 Day): Inflammatory generalizations concerning pedophiliaQuoteSeriously, some of you always act in a way that makes me think that amir0x need some company in his cell.Oof. Harsh but no lies detected. Some people have a hard time keeping their pedophilic tendencies in check.
Seriously, some of you always act in a way that makes me think that amir0x need some company in his cell.
I do recall one adult staff member having an underage girlfriend, won't share who though spoiler (click to show/hide)Because I believe in love! [close]
I hope this thread has generated a good long discussion and a shitload of introspection and consideration from the moderation team regarding the standards and quality of moderation on this forum. Instead of just over-reacting and banning dissenting opinions, maybe there should have been an attempt to engage with people to try to understand why they thought the whole story was fishy (which it is now well beyond any reasonable doubt). Instead, this whole thing was turned into a massive race/culture war where those with power abused it to shut out those they didn't agree with and then got egg all over their faces when all of the doubts people had initially were shown to be legitimate and not just borne out of "white privilege" or whatever buzzword insult was being thrown around.I couldn't give three fucking shits about this guy and before this thread I didn't even know who he was. I certainly don't give a shit about whether he set this whole thing up or not and am only here because this episode is a perfect illustration of what is wrong with this place..........Who am I kidding? Introspection? Yeah right! It's just easier to ban people and bury your heads in the sand.
You really should warn people to put on safety goggles before you you start grinding that axe.There is another community I can think of with less stringent moderation policy that sounds more up your alley.
User Banned (Permanent): Continuous thread derailment with hostility towards staff. History of severe infractions.
Quote from: BronsonLeeQuoteMental gymnastics require a lot of effort.I'm gonna let you go ahead and explain that one cause I don't do subtweets
QuoteMental gymnastics require a lot of effort.I'm gonna let you go ahead and explain that one cause I don't do subtweets
Mental gymnastics require a lot of effort.
sometimes they try to stick the ban message on an earlier post to hide it, but the dude only had four posts since november, three of them being those
Quotehttps://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1096671771913322496This is heartbreaking. Ugh
https://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1096671771913322496
How in the fuck could they possibly fuck up Erica's portrayal worse than the original? This isn't just ignorance, this is downright malicious. Fuck this game. Fuck this studio. Fuck anyone who defends this.
How, *how* did the multiple people who made this game think this was a good idea.It needs to be changed or I know I'm not buying the game and I hope a lot more people don't as well.
Thank you for the major spoiler in the title, so I had zero chances to avid it. Well done.
Well, that's really fricking disappointing and anger inducing frankly.
So how did the original Catherine make it unscathed considering its transphobia in the first place?
They chose to take the fucking wrong stance openly and put themselves up for criticism. No reddit, gamergate, anti-saw,etc fuck has a leg to stand on about how “Japan doesn’t care about politics” when this is just a straight slap to the face of an entire group of fans and their allies. An insult to trans people’s actual humanity. It seems like people like Hashino care a whole lot about the “SJW agenda” and made it loud and clear.
I never their transphobia bullshit went as far back as P2...They're my favorite developer or were. I dunno anymore.I feel so sad for the trans community
Atlas USA having no say in this doesn't mean that everyone working at Atlus USA aren't still super complicit in normalizing transphobia and hatred. Their job is literally to adapt a hateful work into English and market it the US. Anyone working there should absolutely be ashamed of themselves.
Oh yah, for the 8TH time why did Jussiebhihchboy hire one of the best defense attorneys in America today? MICHAEL MONICO? the liberal mainstream media won’t report that! One of you racist black pieces of💩needs to answer this question. I’ve been asking for 4HOURS!! and not one of you cowards will answer! Why? The Democratic plantation won’t let you answer! They still own you after 400 years!!LOFL
I want to thank all the racist black chimps for chimpin out tonight. And letting me hold court for over three hours! Me against a hundred! I loved the odds and won! It was a freakin rush!! Someone needed to put your racistazzez in check for once! And I understand why nobody had my back, fight the good fight. Play to win and fight till your dead! Be a leader not a sheep! If you don’t like this thenFhuhkyou!and the horse you rode in on!
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What the, is Era really the biggest gaming forum?
atlus has never been a friend of the queer community.
Yes but thats what I'm saying. I'm not convinced by the "just following orders" defense... I dont think Atlus USA should be let off the hook at all.
I think this is worth looking at closely and I don’t have a clue how to counter it. Unless it’s educate people on how to verify a source.
QuoteI wish I made my cousin up. He is very real and once pointed an AK-47 at me as a joke. Has two kids, a low/paying job, and spends a good chunk of his money buying guns every month.Sounds very convenient to me. You just happen to be questioning a gay black man who was attacked, and you just happen to have this super racist cousin who pointed a gun at you like a mad person?Got any proof of that?
I wish I made my cousin up. He is very real and once pointed an AK-47 at me as a joke. Has two kids, a low/paying job, and spends a good chunk of his money buying guns every month.
the rage, the powerless unhinged ragehttps://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/post-17976213QuoteQuotehttps://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1096671771913322496This is heartbreaking. Ugh
Quote from: benjipwns on February 16, 2019, 05:24:25 AMthe rage, the powerless unhinged ragehttps://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/post-17976213QuoteQuotehttps://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1096671771913322496This is heartbreaking. UghBut Erica is not even their proper Twitter handle, it's the one you can change within a few seconds....
Quotethis was literally a holy shit what the fuck reaction.i was barely awake groggily browsing era on my phone in bed. upon seeing this i shot right out, eyes blaring in disbelief at what in all that is holy i just read
this was literally a holy shit what the fuck reaction.
QuoteWhat do you propose they do then?Have they issued a statement condeming the views of this new game. They could start there.
What do you propose they do then?
If they are responsible for localizing hateful content and marketing it to consumers, then they don't get to handwave all responsibility away by saying "but they made all the decisions, we're just following orders". They need to share the responsibility for the global spread of an extremely hateful product. They don't get to claim total blamelessness here.
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Quote from: benjipwns on February 16, 2019, 06:18:48 AM(Image removed from quote.)Hold up, i thought we were already boycotting SMASH because of the racist stuff? Someone phone the party's HQ for clarifications!
Nope but the best thing we can do is make sure this the first thing they see when they come back from vacation
QuoteDid they at least acknowledge this?No, but I wish they would. It needs to be addressed ASAP. It's a PR nightmare that might affect sales
Did they at least acknowledge this?
Agreed. I mean I don't have a Switch but I am considering if I will get one in the future but things like this just make think about skipping the game if I ever grab one. Hopefully, they do the right thing as soon as the holiday is over.
Man, this is wild. The fact he just hired a new lawyer isn't looking good.
When there’s false reports in the press stating that the investigation is turning towards it being a co-ordinated hoax perpetrated by you, even if you’re not guilty, you’re telling me you wouldn’t line up a lawyer?
In before, "Sean Hannity has a strong back, tremendously strong back, and a noble, surprisingly articulate bearing, but he's off the plantation."Except that won't happen because RevenAnne Coulter isn't directly involved in a real estate scam with Donald Trump.BTW, Hannity backed down instantly when he got the page from the Whitehouse that Trump was gonna loser-out. But I am curious about what the underlying forces pushing Hannity, Coulter and Rush Limbaugh's legitimate underming of Trump's obvious path, ar. Is it an organized thing? Because they're all pushing the identical message and strategy - so it could just be their own base of racists, but they must know that Trumpers will abandon them to some degree. Is there some weird third party of real media money that's more racist than it is opportunist?I'm not kidding. There's no philosophical razor I can apply to this but maybe I just don't have a good understanding of the data. After all, ACTUAL suspected Miami drug-ring mastermind and opiate crisis creator/victim/not advocate/Laitina drug mule runner, Rush Limbaugh personally only managed to go "mainstream" for about fifteen minutes before literally going reverse racism/affirmative action cadillac queen on national TV.So maybe they're all just real dedicated racists AND opportunist racism dogpilers AND potential and actual Maher guests.
Btw. This is the Catherine ending explained which... doesn't seem so bad? The timeline has just shifted and sounds like Erica has simply not transitioned yethttps://twitter.com/Kyz0nMB/status/1096705571871514624
