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« Reply #6660 on: May 04, 2018, 03:22:57 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2018-kia-stinger-is-a-beautiful-looking-car-both-inside-and-out-performance-not-too-shabby-either.40272/

People in this thread hating on the MPG of a 365 HP V6 sports sedan rather annoy me. Even with that, it's still like 23-25 mpg average. Soyboys need to stop driving their ford fiestas.

Oh the forum where people argue about the merits of taking showers, using shampoo, brushing teeth, and washing their sheets has shitty opinions about hobbies generally associated with going outside?

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« Reply #6661 on: May 04, 2018, 03:26:50 PM »
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No one likes you


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« Reply #6662 on: May 04, 2018, 03:35:09 PM »
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« Reply #6663 on: May 04, 2018, 03:38:11 PM »
GOW doesn't do fucking anything new or risky or arty. It's a bullshit fetch quest game with a tired story of "bad dad with kids learns how to be a better dad" but they add ultra violence to bond them, endless backtracking and LEGO tier puzzles, then the big reveal at the end is immediately undercut by the dialog wondering when a character asks why they didn't just tell you this at the beginning of the fucking story only to get a shrug and lol I dunno.

I can not believe the praise this game is getting. Combat is 5 stars. Everything else is complete trash. All this shit about deep, mature storytelling is hilarious bullshit.

I'd give it like a 5/10 tops

The 5/10 score line confuses me a bit. When you say that the combat is 5 stars, you mean 5/5 right?

I think that is what you mean. Personally, I think if the core gameplay is a 5/5, I don't see how you can make it a 5/10 overall. What I think is the most important thing in any game is the core gameplay. If they get that bit right, then everything else they get right is just the cherry on top. It turns what is a good game into a great game.

You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Right. The core of the game is walking/climbing/boating, not fighting. You spend much, much more time traveling than fighting, and when you do get to fight, there are only a handful of times it's like OH SHIT THIS IS AWESOME, and they get less awesome because you have the same boss fights about 4 times each. There are basically 6 non boss enemies in the game, sometime they'll add a shield or they'll be fire instead of ice, but otherwise exactly the same. It's so repetitive.

Even if the praise is for the story, it fucking sucks too, and the game even makes comment on how silly your whole experience was. That hard hitting, deep, mature story telling of a father having trouble patting his son on the back for a while. :lol

lol You are right about re skinned enemies but that is a fucking hyperbole.

Also, did you went against the Valkaries?

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You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Well, one is kind of a lie andI dont have any idea of what door are you talking about, outside standard Zelda and Metroidvania optional backtracking?

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« Reply #6664 on: May 04, 2018, 03:41:54 PM »
Lol Conan is great. It never gets old when Aaron is completely excited about the vidya games and Conan randomly starts trolling him.
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« Reply #6665 on: May 04, 2018, 03:49:38 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Shanda_Sharer

This one’s also a boner popper. Teenage psycho lesbians torturing and setting each other on fire. The stuff dreams are made of.

The story is filled with colorful characters and side details, like this (about the murderer’s parents):

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During an orgy with another couple at their house, Marjorie tried to commit suicide, an act she would repeat several times throughout her daughters' childhoods.[9] When Melinda was nine years old, Larry had Marjorie gang raped, after which she tried to drown herself. After that incident, she refused him sex for a month, until he violently raped her as their daughters witnessed, overhearing the event through a closed door.

Another one I’m surprised I haven’t heard of. This one would seriously make a cool movie.

EDIT: I can just see this scene in my head, done in like, Army of Darkness/Evil Dead style:

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Sharer continued to make crying and gurgling noises, so Tackett stopped the car. When they opened the trunk, Sharer sat up, covered in blood with her eyes rolled back in her head, but unable to speak. Tackett beat her with a tire iron until she was silent.


EDIT 2: Bwahahaha, this even has legit comedy.

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Tackett made Rippey pour the gasoline on Sharer, and then they set her on fire. Loveless was not convinced Sharer was dead, so they returned a few minutes later to pour the rest of the gasoline on her.[38][39]

The girls went to a McDonald's restaurant at 9:30 a.m. for breakfast, where they laughed about Sharer's body looking like one of the sausages they were eating.

Okay, this is my story of the day. The full narrative and all the side details are just too great. Makes me want to move to whatever flyover shithole state this took place in.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2018, 03:58:28 PM by TVC 15 »
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« Reply #6666 on: May 04, 2018, 04:04:31 PM »
GOW doesn't do fucking anything new or risky or arty. It's a bullshit fetch quest game with a tired story of "bad dad with kids learns how to be a better dad" but they add ultra violence to bond them, endless backtracking and LEGO tier puzzles, then the big reveal at the end is immediately undercut by the dialog wondering when a character asks why they didn't just tell you this at the beginning of the fucking story only to get a shrug and lol I dunno.

I can not believe the praise this game is getting. Combat is 5 stars. Everything else is complete trash. All this shit about deep, mature storytelling is hilarious bullshit.

I'd give it like a 5/10 tops

The 5/10 score line confuses me a bit. When you say that the combat is 5 stars, you mean 5/5 right?

I think that is what you mean. Personally, I think if the core gameplay is a 5/5, I don't see how you can make it a 5/10 overall. What I think is the most important thing in any game is the core gameplay. If they get that bit right, then everything else they get right is just the cherry on top. It turns what is a good game into a great game.

You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Right. The core of the game is walking/climbing/boating, not fighting. You spend much, much more time traveling than fighting, and when you do get to fight, there are only a handful of times it's like OH SHIT THIS IS AWESOME, and they get less awesome because you have the same boss fights about 4 times each. There are basically 6 non boss enemies in the game, sometime they'll add a shield or they'll be fire instead of ice, but otherwise exactly the same. It's so repetitive.

Even if the praise is for the story, it fucking sucks too, and the game even makes comment on how silly your whole experience was. That hard hitting, deep, mature story telling of a father having trouble patting his son on the back for a while. :lol

lol You are right about re skinned enemies but that is a fucking hyperbole.

Also, did you went against the Valkaries?

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You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Well, one is kind of a lie andI dont have any idea of what door are you talking about, outside standard Zelda and Metroidvania optional backtracking?


1. The whole plot of the game is Kratos and Artreus getting closer. It's frequently shown as Kratos being unable to show physical affection to his son. Repeatedly. Such great story telling. As if you couldn't tell by the 4th time and how they speak that they don't have a good relationship.

And thats make it bad because?

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2. The backtracking isn't optional in this game, you HAVE to do it every section to progress the story. You hit the hub area 6 or 7 times in the second half of the game alone. I can't even imagine doing sidequests and trophy hunting bullshit in this game.

That  the is the whole point of a hub area.  :lol

And yeah, you missed a lot of good shit, a little repetitive I concede but could vary in a lot of ways.

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« Reply #6667 on: May 04, 2018, 04:14:26 PM »
It wasn't even super serious. It was a father and son fetching keys and shit and bonding over violently slaughtering magical creatures. :lol

So what was you didnt like about the father and son bonding?

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« Reply #6668 on: May 04, 2018, 04:14:38 PM »
Dad of Boy was a great game.

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« Reply #6669 on: May 04, 2018, 04:16:47 PM »
i !now the sonyponies are really fucking annoying about gow4 but it is a legit great game.

late in the game you unlock proper fast travel.

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« Reply #6670 on: May 04, 2018, 04:17:24 PM »

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You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Well, one is kind of a lie andI dont have any idea of what door are you talking about, outside standard Zelda and Metroidvania optional backtracking?

Well you are forced to go back through the Mountain and Helheim (which is a snore the second time up until the boat). The Midgard area expanding over time is pretty cool, but it stops expanding in the second half. Besides that you spend most of your time in generic underground temples in the second half.

The door I'm talking about is the one to Jotunheim that serves as the plot point for the second half of the game

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You open it and you walk up stairs and go through a hallway and then the game is over. They could've had some puzzles or some enemies instead of nothing.
[close]

For a game that had a dev team of ~270 and had a dev time of four years, there's a surprising lack of content. I just hope there's a lot more to do in the sequel.

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« Reply #6671 on: May 04, 2018, 04:18:05 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Shanda_Sharer

This one’s also a boner popper. Teenage psycho lesbians torturing and setting each other on fire. The stuff dreams are made of.

The story is filled with colorful characters and side details, like this (about the murderer’s parents):

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During an orgy with another couple at their house, Marjorie tried to commit suicide, an act she would repeat several times throughout her daughters' childhoods.[9] When Melinda was nine years old, Larry had Marjorie gang raped, after which she tried to drown herself. After that incident, she refused him sex for a month, until he violently raped her as their daughters witnessed, overhearing the event through a closed door.

Another one I’m surprised I haven’t heard of. This one would seriously make a cool movie.

EDIT: I can just see this scene in my head, done in like, Army of Darkness/Evil Dead style:

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Sharer continued to make crying and gurgling noises, so Tackett stopped the car. When they opened the trunk, Sharer sat up, covered in blood with her eyes rolled back in her head, but unable to speak. Tackett beat her with a tire iron until she was silent.


EDIT 2: Bwahahaha, this even has legit comedy.

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Tackett made Rippey pour the gasoline on Sharer, and then they set her on fire. Loveless was not convinced Sharer was dead, so they returned a few minutes later to pour the rest of the gasoline on her.[38][39]

The girls went to a McDonald's restaurant at 9:30 a.m. for breakfast, where they laughed about Sharer's body looking like one of the sausages they were eating.

Okay, this is my story of the day. The full narrative and all the side details are just too great. Makes me want to move to whatever flyover shithole state this took place in.

And 3/4 of them are out of prison, with the most fucked up one coming out in a year.  Wonderful.

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« Reply #6672 on: May 04, 2018, 04:19:50 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Shanda_Sharer

This one’s also a boner popper. Teenage psycho lesbians torturing and setting each other on fire. The stuff dreams are made of.

The story is filled with colorful characters and side details, like this (about the murderer’s parents):

Quote
During an orgy with another couple at their house, Marjorie tried to commit suicide, an act she would repeat several times throughout her daughters' childhoods.[9] When Melinda was nine years old, Larry had Marjorie gang raped, after which she tried to drown herself. After that incident, she refused him sex for a month, until he violently raped her as their daughters witnessed, overhearing the event through a closed door.

Another one I’m surprised I haven’t heard of. This one would seriously make a cool movie.

EDIT: I can just see this scene in my head, done in like, Army of Darkness/Evil Dead style:

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Sharer continued to make crying and gurgling noises, so Tackett stopped the car. When they opened the trunk, Sharer sat up, covered in blood with her eyes rolled back in her head, but unable to speak. Tackett beat her with a tire iron until she was silent.


EDIT 2: Bwahahaha, this even has legit comedy.

Quote
Tackett made Rippey pour the gasoline on Sharer, and then they set her on fire. Loveless was not convinced Sharer was dead, so they returned a few minutes later to pour the rest of the gasoline on her.[38][39]

The girls went to a McDonald's restaurant at 9:30 a.m. for breakfast, where they laughed about Sharer's body looking like one of the sausages they were eating.

Okay, this is my story of the day. The full narrative and all the side details are just too great. Makes me want to move to whatever flyover shithole state this took place in.

And 3/4 of them are out of prison, with the most fucked up one coming out in a year.  Wonderful.

And the ringleader is out next year. I kinda want to send her a letter.
serge

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« Reply #6673 on: May 04, 2018, 04:20:27 PM »
i !now the sonyponies are really fucking annoying about gow4 but it is a legit great game.

Pretty much.

Is not fucking citizen kane of videogames or are goingto convert people to "videogames are serious art", but is a good game overall.

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« Reply #6674 on: May 04, 2018, 04:23:19 PM »
Yeah sorry I can’t get on the “GoW is only ok” train. Game is well made and I enjoyed it.

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« Reply #6675 on: May 04, 2018, 04:24:22 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Shanda_Sharer

This one’s also a boner popper. Teenage psycho lesbians torturing and setting each other on fire. The stuff dreams are made of.

The story is filled with colorful characters and side details, like this (about the murderer’s parents):

Quote
During an orgy with another couple at their house, Marjorie tried to commit suicide, an act she would repeat several times throughout her daughters' childhoods.[9] When Melinda was nine years old, Larry had Marjorie gang raped, after which she tried to drown herself. After that incident, she refused him sex for a month, until he violently raped her as their daughters witnessed, overhearing the event through a closed door.

Another one I’m surprised I haven’t heard of. This one would seriously make a cool movie.

EDIT: I can just see this scene in my head, done in like, Army of Darkness/Evil Dead style:

Quote
Sharer continued to make crying and gurgling noises, so Tackett stopped the car. When they opened the trunk, Sharer sat up, covered in blood with her eyes rolled back in her head, but unable to speak. Tackett beat her with a tire iron until she was silent.


EDIT 2: Bwahahaha, this even has legit comedy.

Quote
Tackett made Rippey pour the gasoline on Sharer, and then they set her on fire. Loveless was not convinced Sharer was dead, so they returned a few minutes later to pour the rest of the gasoline on her.[38][39]

The girls went to a McDonald's restaurant at 9:30 a.m. for breakfast, where they laughed about Sharer's body looking like one of the sausages they were eating.

Okay, this is my story of the day. The full narrative and all the side details are just too great. Makes me want to move to whatever flyover shithole state this took place in.

And 3/4 of them are out of prison, with the most fucked up one coming out in a year.  Wonderful.

And the ringleader is out next year. I kinda want to send her a letter.

You guys are making me feel somewhat normal after I got way too excited telling my wife about Andrei Chikatilo and Fritz Haarmann last weekend.

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« Reply #6676 on: May 04, 2018, 04:25:53 PM »
Not done with the game yet, but at best it’s just “the voice acting and world is above average while remaking basically serious”

There’s definitely weird tonal shifts and inconsistencies. Like I’m at a part where there is something wrong with one of the characters and you’re trying to fix it, and it’s apparent in most of the cutscenes but not in all of the exposition all “we gonna walk around and talk about the shit that just happened” parts. So like Atreus goes from about to apparently die to being like “hey dad, do you think it makes you gay to donkey punch a minotaur? Is it ok if had tits?” level of levity, as you are in the process of walking his ass to a mystical doctor.

(Changes plot details to make it less spoilery as sadly you don’t engage in any anal play with any Minotaurs)

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« Reply #6677 on: May 04, 2018, 04:27:50 PM »

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You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Well, one is kind of a lie andI dont have any idea of what door are you talking about, outside standard Zelda and Metroidvania optional backtracking?

Well you are forced to go back through the Mountain and Helheim (which is a snore the second time up until the boat). The Midgard area expanding over time is pretty cool, but it stops expanding in the second half. Besides that you spend most of your time in generic underground temples in the second half.

Did you were able to go to the
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optional Realms
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? Also, kind of generic in the stric sense of being norse fantasy setting, but they were not exactly copy paste dungeons.

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The door I'm talking about is the one to Jotunheim that serves as the plot point for the second half of the game

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You open it and you walk up stairs and go through a hallway and then the game is over. They could've had some puzzles or some enemies instead of nothing.
[close]

You mean the pretty blatant playable epilogue
spoiler (click to show/hide)
were solving puzzles and killing monsters probably would not fit given that the whole point is saying farewell to a close family member?
[close]
Did you expect the Triforce?

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For a game that had a dev team of ~270 and had a dev time of four years, there's a surprising lack of content. I just hope there's a lot more to do in the sequel.

Dude... the other God of Wat games were barebones compared with this in the content department.

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« Reply #6678 on: May 04, 2018, 04:28:30 PM »
Is the storytelling as good as Return To Castle Wolfenstein?

That shit was Coen Brothers tier.
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« Reply #6679 on: May 04, 2018, 04:30:30 PM »
God of Wat

Now that's a game I'd play.
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« Reply #6680 on: May 04, 2018, 04:31:32 PM »
God of Wat

Now that's a game I'd play.


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« Reply #6681 on: May 04, 2018, 04:32:46 PM »
It wasn't even super serious. It was a father and son fetching keys and shit and bonding over violently slaughtering magical creatures. :lol

So what was you didnt like about the father and son bonding?

That it was boring and trite and has been done a LOT even just recently in games and movies, the kid was annoying as fuck, and it was told in the most boring and cliche filled way. Stern dad and young son don't see eye to eye, maybe after a battle they'll be a little closer, repeat 300 times. He wants to say "good job", but can't bring himself to show the emotion, maybe next time. Repeat 300 times. The end.

That is better criticism, if a little reductionist. I will just say: cliche tropes are not exactly bad by itself.

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« Reply #6682 on: May 04, 2018, 04:43:58 PM »
They were in this case for my enjoyment of the game. That's the other problem: It isn't FUN. It's a grinding slog of travel and fetching to once in a while get to cut some heads off.

And that is fair, that you didnt feel like you were having fun. Other people did. At best I will say is pretty exagerate to say that is "you only explore and walk", specially if you follow certain side quests that are basically
spoiler (click to show/hide)
a small semi random dungeon with a ton of high level enemies and 9 optional boss fights that are more difficult than the final boss
[close]

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« Reply #6683 on: May 04, 2018, 04:44:49 PM »
I wish they would have saved millions and just made a really good tell tale game. 
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« Reply #6684 on: May 04, 2018, 04:51:54 PM »
I wish they would have saved millions and just made a really good tell tale game.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/05/03/god-of-war-sells-3-1-million-copies-in-three-days-is-ps4s-fastest-selling-exclusive-by-a-mile/#139c9f6b648e

Like, they just made a ton of money with this game... like, I dont even want to be a AAA game apologist, but AAA games are made for a reson.

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« Reply #6685 on: May 04, 2018, 04:53:16 PM »
Imagine how much more they would have made if they got rid of all the combat!!!
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« Reply #6686 on: May 04, 2018, 04:55:37 PM »
Imagine how much more they would have made if they got rid of all the combat!!!

 :doge

The franchise famous for being a violent hack and slash game.

You are saying this like the general consensous is not that the combat is great.

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« Reply #6687 on: May 04, 2018, 04:57:21 PM »
this discussion sucks. did we ever find out why that goof got perm banned or what

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« Reply #6688 on: May 04, 2018, 05:00:29 PM »
I don't who general consensus is but pretty much every me agrees that the combat was a boring slog and detracted from a narrative on par with a really good episode of Farscape. Wasted potential.
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« Reply #6689 on: May 04, 2018, 05:00:49 PM »
this discussion sucks. did we ever find out why that goof got perm banned or what

Off-site alt-right nazi harassment swatting of a REE Mod. Or so I hear.

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« Reply #6690 on: May 04, 2018, 05:02:21 PM »
this discussion sucks. did we ever find out why that goof got perm banned or what

Let’s try changing the topic.

I’m reading about Genghis Khan and now I wish I were him. If I could be anyone in history, it would be Genghis Khan, but only if it were an alternate reality where indoor plumbing and fast food existed during his time. Everything else could stay the same.

Off-site alt-right nazi harassment swatting of a REE Mod. Or so I hear.

That’s all we know. We need deets. LionPride appears to maybe know something but he won’t open his unlovable mouth
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« Reply #6691 on: May 04, 2018, 05:03:33 PM »
this discussion sucks. did we ever find out why that goof got perm banned or what

Let’s try changing the topic.

I’m reading about Genghis Khan and now I wish I were him. If I could be anyone in history, it would be Genghis Khan, but only if it were an alternate reality where indoor plumbing and fast food existed during his time. Everything else could stay the same.

Nothing a couple dudes in time traveling phone booth couldn't whip up.

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« Reply #6692 on: May 04, 2018, 05:04:52 PM »
Off-site alt-right nazi harassment swatting of a REE Mod. Or so I hear.
so...saying anything bad about resetti in any miniscule way? i see.

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« Reply #6693 on: May 04, 2018, 05:05:00 PM »
I don't who general consensus is but pretty much every me agrees that the combat was a boring slog and detracted from a narrative on par with a really good episode of Farscape. Wasted potential.

That is a fair opinion, very different over "this a telltale game".


They were in this case for my enjoyment of the game. That's the other problem: It isn't FUN. It's a grinding slog of travel and fetching to once in a while get to cut some heads off.

And that is fair, that you didnt feel like you were having fun. Other people did. At best I will say is pretty exagerate to say that is "you only explore and walk", specially if you follow certain side quests that are basically
spoiler (click to show/hide)
a small semi random dungeon with a ton of high level enemies and 9 optional boss fights that are more difficult than the final boss
[close]

Maybe if they made those part of the main game I'd feel like I was playing something more than walk. Not explore. Just walk. Maybe spring if you want. You can only "explore" usually one path, maybe two if you're lucky in some areas and all they do is link you back to the main path anyway.

I'm telling you, MK Shaolin Monks is infinitely more fun of a game than GOW.

This feels more like a Zelda game than anything.

I always wanted to play Shaolin Monks, btw.

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« Reply #6694 on: May 04, 2018, 05:07:05 PM »

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You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Well, one is kind of a lie andI dont have any idea of what door are you talking about, outside standard Zelda and Metroidvania optional backtracking?

Well you are forced to go back through the Mountain and Helheim (which is a snore the second time up until the boat). The Midgard area expanding over time is pretty cool, but it stops expanding in the second half. Besides that you spend most of your time in generic underground temples in the second half.

Did you were able to go to the
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optional Realms
[close]
? Also, kind of generic in the stric sense of being norse fantasy setting, but they were not exactly copy paste dungeons.

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The door I'm talking about is the one to Jotunheim that serves as the plot point for the second half of the game

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You open it and you walk up stairs and go through a hallway and then the game is over. They could've had some puzzles or some enemies instead of nothing.
[close]

You mean the pretty blatant playable epilogue
spoiler (click to show/hide)
were solving puzzles and killing monsters probably would not fit given that the whole point is saying farewell to a close family member?
[close]
Did you expect the Triforce?

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For a game that had a dev team of ~270 and had a dev time of four years, there's a surprising lack of content. I just hope there's a lot more to do in the sequel.

Dude... the other God of Wat games were barebones compared with this in the content department.

I went through the first secret realm and enjoyed the combat challenges there, I unlocked the second one near the end, but I don't really have much interest in going back to the game since I've beaten it.

I probably would've fine with the ending if before you went in you didn't spend the time beforehand rowing your boat in a straight line and then fighting a dude for the third time. It's easily the lamest GOW finale. And it's hard for me to care for a character who's dead before the game starts.

I strongly disagree that the other God of War games had less content, there is far more enemy and boss variety in all of them besides one, which in an action game is the most important thing to me.

I don't think the game is terrible, it just has a really lackluster second half that doesn't build to anything. If a sequel builds on what they set up in this game (like the jump from GOW 1 to 2) then it could be amazing.

They were in this case for my enjoyment of the game. That's the other problem: It isn't FUN. It's a grinding slog of travel and fetching to once in a while get to cut some heads off.

And that is fair, that you didnt feel like you were having fun. Other people did. At best I will say is pretty exagerate to say that is "you only explore and walk", specially if you follow certain side quests that are basically
spoiler (click to show/hide)
a small semi random dungeon with a ton of high level enemies and 9 optional boss fights that are more difficult than the final boss
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Maybe if they made those part of the main game I'd feel like I was playing something more than walk. Not explore. Just walk. Maybe spring if you want. You can only "explore" usually one path, maybe two if you're lucky in some areas and all they do is link you back to the main path anyway.

I'm telling you, MK Shaolin Monks is infinitely more fun of a game than GOW.

This feels more like a Zelda game than anything.

I always wanted to play Shaolin Monks, btw.

It feels more like a Darksiders game then Zelda. If you liked GOW 2018 and haven't played them you should, apparently we're getting a third one at the end of the year.

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« Reply #6695 on: May 04, 2018, 05:09:26 PM »
can you please stop arguing with the distinguished mentally-challenged wrestling fan

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« Reply #6696 on: May 04, 2018, 05:13:41 PM »
can you please stop arguing with the distinguished mentally-challenged wrestling fan

Leave Stro alone. He’s swell, even if I disagree with some of his GoW opinions.
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« Reply #6697 on: May 04, 2018, 05:14:46 PM »

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You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Well, one is kind of a lie andI dont have any idea of what door are you talking about, outside standard Zelda and Metroidvania optional backtracking?

Well you are forced to go back through the Mountain and Helheim (which is a snore the second time up until the boat). The Midgard area expanding over time is pretty cool, but it stops expanding in the second half. Besides that you spend most of your time in generic underground temples in the second half.

Did you were able to go to the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
optional Realms
[close]
? Also, kind of generic in the stric sense of being norse fantasy setting, but they were not exactly copy paste dungeons.

Quote
The door I'm talking about is the one to Jotunheim that serves as the plot point for the second half of the game

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You open it and you walk up stairs and go through a hallway and then the game is over. They could've had some puzzles or some enemies instead of nothing.
[close]

You mean the pretty blatant playable epilogue
spoiler (click to show/hide)
were solving puzzles and killing monsters probably would not fit given that the whole point is saying farewell to a close family member?
[close]
Did you expect the Triforce?

Quote
For a game that had a dev team of ~270 and had a dev time of four years, there's a surprising lack of content. I just hope there's a lot more to do in the sequel.

Dude... the other God of Wat games were barebones compared with this in the content department.

I went through the first secret realm and enjoyed the combat challenges there, I unlocked the second one near the end, but I don't really have much interest in going back to the game since I've beaten it.

I probably would've fine with the ending if before you went in you didn't spend the time beforehand rowing your boat in a straight line and then fighting a dude for the third time. It's easily the lamest GOW finale. And it's hard for me to care for a character who's dead before the game starts.

I strongly disagree that the other God of War games had less content, there is far more enemy and boss variety in all of them besides one, which in an action game is the most important thing to me.

I don't think the game is terrible, it just has a really lackluster second half that doesn't build to anything. If a sequel builds on what they set up in this game (like the jump from GOW 1 to 2) then it could be amazing.

Way better expressed.

I will just say that I thought the past GoW games were as samey with the enemy type and most bosses, while creative and put a espectacular show, devolved in Quick Time events. They were fun action games but I will buy them at discount given that there wer 6 - 8 hour games with a character I didnt particularly care about. But that is my opinion, so I disagree with you, but I prefer this kind of criticism than "this is just Uncharted 4 or cinematic shit" when the game has a lot to do.

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« Reply #6698 on: May 04, 2018, 05:19:34 PM »
I've literally never played a video game where I thought the storytelling was actually anywhere near "great"; 

Have you played Splatoon?

:O

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« Reply #6699 on: May 04, 2018, 05:25:53 PM »

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You can have an amazing combat system, but if the game doesn't take full advantage of that then that's an issue. The second half makes you go through a lot of the same environments and fighting the same enemies, but you have a different weapon. Even the final boss is a big letdown from the previous games.

Like if you have the player spend 10-15 hours getting the items to open a door, there better be something worthwhile behind it.

Well, one is kind of a lie andI dont have any idea of what door are you talking about, outside standard Zelda and Metroidvania optional backtracking?

Well you are forced to go back through the Mountain and Helheim (which is a snore the second time up until the boat). The Midgard area expanding over time is pretty cool, but it stops expanding in the second half. Besides that you spend most of your time in generic underground temples in the second half.

Did you were able to go to the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
optional Realms
[close]
? Also, kind of generic in the stric sense of being norse fantasy setting, but they were not exactly copy paste dungeons.

Quote
The door I'm talking about is the one to Jotunheim that serves as the plot point for the second half of the game

spoiler (click to show/hide)
You open it and you walk up stairs and go through a hallway and then the game is over. They could've had some puzzles or some enemies instead of nothing.
[close]

You mean the pretty blatant playable epilogue
spoiler (click to show/hide)
were solving puzzles and killing monsters probably would not fit given that the whole point is saying farewell to a close family member?
[close]
Did you expect the Triforce?

Quote
For a game that had a dev team of ~270 and had a dev time of four years, there's a surprising lack of content. I just hope there's a lot more to do in the sequel.

Dude... the other God of Wat games were barebones compared with this in the content department.

I went through the first secret realm and enjoyed the combat challenges there, I unlocked the second one near the end, but I don't really have much interest in going back to the game since I've beaten it.

I probably would've fine with the ending if before you went in you didn't spend the time beforehand rowing your boat in a straight line and then fighting a dude for the third time. It's easily the lamest GOW finale. And it's hard for me to care for a character who's dead before the game starts.

I strongly disagree that the other God of War games had less content, there is far more enemy and boss variety in all of them besides one, which in an action game is the most important thing to me.

I don't think the game is terrible, it just has a really lackluster second half that doesn't build to anything. If a sequel builds on what they set up in this game (like the jump from GOW 1 to 2) then it could be amazing.

Way better expressed.

I will just say that I thought the past GoW games were as samey with the enemy type and most bosses, while creative and put a espectacular show, devolved in Quick Time events. They were fun action games but I will buy them at discount given that there wer 6 - 8 hour games with a character I didnt particularly care about. But that is my opinion, so I disagree with you, but I prefer this kind of criticism than "this is just Uncharted 4 or cinematic shit" when the game has a lot to do.

GOW 2018 has QTEs. It also has frequent "tap Square" or you can change the settings to just hold it, and that's the most work you have to do to enjoy a nice 45 second animation you aren't in control of in any way whatsoever.

The QTE are minimum compared with past games, that included 15 seconds of pressing a bottom to open a chest

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« Reply #6700 on: May 04, 2018, 05:29:59 PM »
Bad Vibes Thread II

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« Reply #6701 on: May 04, 2018, 05:46:53 PM »
Reason Inferno got banned:

Mods got mad he was sucking LionPride’s dick so hard. “Made it his mission to make sure certain users couldn’t get in trouble” or something like that. He tried complaining about the two day ban he caught for defending LionPride to other mods and they just went ahead and permed him.

Long story short, it’s LionPride’s fault.

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« Reply #6702 on: May 04, 2018, 05:48:34 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #6703 on: May 04, 2018, 05:48:50 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Colleen_Stan

Sexiest thing I’ve read so far today. Surprised I hadn’t heard this one before.

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The case and its core elements of an invisible conspiracy used to coerce the victim into servitude and long periods of confinement has formed the basis for several episodes of television crime series, including Criminal Minds (episode "The Company", season seven), Ghost Whisperer (episode "Ball & Chain", season four), and Law and Order: Special Victims Unit (episode "Slaves", season one). It was also profiled in the 2008 episode "Kidnapped" of Investigation Discovery series Wicked Attraction.

On September 10, 2016, a television movie based on the case titled Girl in the Box premiered on Lifetime starring Addison Timlin as Colleen Stan, Zane Holtz as Cameron Hooker, and Zelda Williams as Janice Hooker.[36][37] the movie was followed by a two-hour documentary called Colleen Stan: Girl in the Box.

Wow, TVC's white suburban housewife cred revoked.  :wtf
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« Reply #6704 on: May 04, 2018, 05:49:41 PM »
Only REEEE mods have the dick sucking privilege of the proletariat.

Workers of the party do not.
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« Reply #6705 on: May 04, 2018, 05:50:08 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Colleen_Stan

Sexiest thing I’ve read so far today. Surprised I hadn’t heard this one before.

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The case and its core elements of an invisible conspiracy used to coerce the victim into servitude and long periods of confinement has formed the basis for several episodes of television crime series, including Criminal Minds (episode "The Company", season seven), Ghost Whisperer (episode "Ball & Chain", season four), and Law and Order: Special Victims Unit (episode "Slaves", season one). It was also profiled in the 2008 episode "Kidnapped" of Investigation Discovery series Wicked Attraction.

Wow, TVC's white suburban housewife cred annihilated.  :wtf
ftfy bb
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« Reply #6706 on: May 04, 2018, 05:53:10 PM »
Reason Inferno got banned:

Mods got mad he was sucking LionPride’s dick so hard. “Made it his mission to make sure certain users couldn’t get in trouble” or something like that. He tried complaining about the two day ban he caught for defending LionPride to other mods and they just went ahead and permed him.

Long story short, it’s LionPride’s fault.

Hahaha, are you serious? This is better than I could have hoped for!

I knew you’d come through.
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« Reply #6707 on: May 04, 2018, 05:54:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-is-the-reason-final-fantasy-xiv-isnt-on-xbo-and-switch.40436/

https://www.resetera.com/posts/7549333/

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Oh my god, the OP of this thread actually posts in the other thread about this very same article. What the heck is going on? haha

https://www.resetera.com/threads/final-fantasy-xiv-director-still-interested-in-a-switch-xb-talks-ongoing.7909/#post-1346137

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« Reply #6708 on: May 04, 2018, 05:55:17 PM »
Ban Benji, Icon 8BitNate, Leper LionPride
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« Reply #6709 on: May 04, 2018, 05:56:34 PM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidnapping_of_Colleen_Stan

Sexiest thing I’ve read so far today. Surprised I hadn’t heard this one before.

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The case and its core elements of an invisible conspiracy used to coerce the victim into servitude and long periods of confinement has formed the basis for several episodes of television crime series, including Criminal Minds (episode "The Company", season seven), Ghost Whisperer (episode "Ball & Chain", season four), and Law and Order: Special Victims Unit (episode "Slaves", season one). It was also profiled in the 2008 episode "Kidnapped" of Investigation Discovery series Wicked Attraction.

On September 10, 2016, a television movie based on the case titled Girl in the Box premiered on Lifetime starring Addison Timlin as Colleen Stan, Zane Holtz as Cameron Hooker, and Zelda Williams as Janice Hooker.[36][37] the movie was followed by a two-hour documentary called Colleen Stan: Girl in the Box.

Wow, TVC's white suburban housewife cred revoked.  :wtf

I’ve probably seen that SVU ep, like 20 years ago!
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« Reply #6710 on: May 04, 2018, 05:58:28 PM »
I was really looking forward to God of War until I realized it’s basically a father-son bonding version of Last of Us. I didn’t watch many clips of the game but did see one where Kratos struggled to lift a rock or something while the son slipped through and as he let it down it collapsed and blocked off the prior path.

I’ve only seen that exact mechanism 8,000 times in  Naughty Dog games. Fuck to the no. I’m in my early 30s and now that neckbeards my age write, design and develop games they fucking suck. It’s like they learned all the wrong lessons from the games we grew up on, or maybe just the losers went on to become developers. I don’t know. The last thing I want out of God of War is some lesson learning, cinematic cringefest.


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« Reply #6711 on: May 04, 2018, 05:59:58 PM »
I was really looking forward to God of War until I realized it’s basically a father-son bonding version of Last of Us. I didn’t watch many clips of the game but did see one where Kratos struggled to lift a rock or something while the son slipped through and as he let it down it collapsed and blocked off the prior path.

I’ve only seen that exact mechanism 8,000 times in  Naughty Dog games. Fuck to the no. I’m in my early 30s and now that neckbeards my age write, design and develop games they fucking suck. It’s like they learned all the wrong lessons from the games we grew up on, or maybe just the losers went on to become developers. I don’t know. The last thing I want out of God of War is some lesson learning, cinematic cringefest.

Your loss then.

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« Reply #6712 on: May 04, 2018, 06:08:06 PM »
I was really looking forward to God of War until I realized it’s basically a father-son bonding version of Last of Us. I didn’t watch many clips of the game but did see one where Kratos struggled to lift a rock or something while the son slipped through and as he let it down it collapsed and blocked off the prior path.

I’ve only seen that exact mechanism 8,000 times in  Naughty Dog games. Fuck to the no. I’m in my early 30s and now that neckbeards my age write, design and develop games they fucking suck. It’s like they learned all the wrong lessons from the games we grew up on, or maybe just the losers went on to become developers. I don’t know. The last thing I want out of God of War is some lesson learning, cinematic cringefest.

Your loss then.

Maybe but I’ve got RL kids and shit that need attention so prolly not

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« Reply #6713 on: May 04, 2018, 06:09:19 PM »
Reason Inferno got banned:

Mods got mad he was sucking LionPride’s dick so hard. “Made it his mission to make sure certain users couldn’t get in trouble” or something like that. He tried complaining about the two day ban he caught for defending LionPride to other mods and they just went ahead and permed him.

Long story short, it’s LionPride’s fault.
:gladbron :heh :neogaf

what a shitty board, what a shitty poster, what a shitty mod

also if they weren't such uptight dopes at that place they could have just told him to stop being such a taco about forum shit and that would have resolved the problem

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« Reply #6714 on: May 04, 2018, 06:10:28 PM »
It’s like they learned all the wrong lessons from the games we grew up on,

#KojimaWasRight

Reason Inferno got banned:

Mods got mad he was sucking LionPride’s dick so hard. “Made it his mission to make sure certain users couldn’t get in trouble” or something like that. He tried complaining about the two day ban he caught for defending LionPride to other mods and they just went ahead and permed him.

Long story short, it’s LionPride’s fault.
:gladbron :heh :neogaf

what a shitty board, what a shitty poster, what a shitty mod

also if they weren't such uptight dopes at that place they could have just told him to stop being such a taco about forum shit and that would have resolved the problem

Eh, disagree. I think that perma is warranted for how much he was cheerleading.

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« Reply #6715 on: May 04, 2018, 06:12:42 PM »
I was really looking forward to God of War until I realized it’s basically a father-son bonding version of Last of Us. I didn’t watch many clips of the game but did see one where Kratos struggled to lift a rock or something while the son slipped through and as he let it down it collapsed and blocked off the prior path.

I’ve only seen that exact mechanism 8,000 times in  Naughty Dog games. Fuck to the no. I’m in my early 30s and now that neckbeards my age write, design and develop games they fucking suck. It’s like they learned all the wrong lessons from the games we grew up on, or maybe just the losers went on to become developers. I don’t know. The last thing I want out of God of War is some lesson learning, cinematic cringefest.

Your loss then.

Maybe but I’ve got RL kids and shit that need attention so prolly not

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« Reply #6716 on: May 04, 2018, 06:23:36 PM »
Leave those teenagers alone, stufte!

nah

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« Reply #6717 on: May 04, 2018, 06:28:32 PM »
With all this God of War talk I'm reminded of something.

How is the fastest selling Microsoft Studios 1st party exclusive with over 30 hours of content doing?

Has Nintendo sold more premium cartboard yet or are they looking for a landfill?
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« Reply #6718 on: May 04, 2018, 06:30:42 PM »

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« Reply #6719 on: May 04, 2018, 06:32:47 PM »
Has #metoo taught us nothing?

It taught us something...