Author Topic: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry. (Read 219373 times)

Rufus · « **Reply #1860 on:** April 13, 2020, 04:52:09 PM »

Their checks don't bounce.

shosta · « **Reply #1861 on:** April 13, 2020, 06:46:24 PM »

but they promised

Rufus · « **Reply #1862 on:** April 13, 2020, 07:02:40 PM »

Reminds me of something Kara posted a while back:

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1863 on:** April 13, 2020, 07:32:10 PM »

The smiley face mask slipped off. Who could have forseen it?

curly · « **Reply #1864 on:** April 13, 2020, 07:37:22 PM »

Quote from: Esch on April 13, 2020, 12:06:19 PM

Speaking of social-fascism anybody else peep all the news coming out of the Labour party report that got dropped this weekend? I know this is Cursed Albion and all but this really feels like another step in the disintegration of the social-democratic pact, like read through some of this stuff

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It shows references to Corbyn-supporting party staff as “trots”, conversations referring to former director of communications Seumas Milne as “dracula”, and that he was “spiteful and evil and we should make sure he is never allowed in our party if it’s last thing we do”. There were also mentions of Corbyn’s former chief of staff Karie Murphy as “medusa”, a “crazy woman” and a “bitch face cow” that would “make a good dartboard”.

Lenin was right, Kautsky

(this post is not an endorsement of revolutionary larping)

shosta · « **Reply #1865 on:** April 13, 2020, 08:37:33 PM »

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1249777968471130112

they pay this guy to write shit like this

Mandark · « **Reply #1866 on:** April 13, 2020, 11:09:09 PM »

Lee Fang and Michael Tracey pulling the reverse Daou.

team filler · « **Reply #1867 on:** April 14, 2020, 01:13:35 AM »

team filler · « **Reply #1868 on:** April 15, 2020, 06:43:34 PM »

https://twitter.com/brizzle_bill/status/1250548580835905537

curly · « **Reply #1869 on:** April 15, 2020, 07:44:34 PM »

Who do you guys trust for political takes on perfidious Albion? Their media is somehow even worse than ours with the exception of really niche outlets like New Left Review which aren't exactly up to date on the latest developments

curly · « **Reply #1870 on:** April 15, 2020, 08:00:16 PM »

That's the conclusion I've come to. A truly cursed isle

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #1871 on:** April 15, 2020, 08:07:40 PM »

you guys ever read rick perlstein? wutcha think?

curly · « **Reply #1872 on:** April 15, 2020, 08:18:52 PM »

Read Nixonland a few years ago and vaguely recall thinking it was alright as pop history but getting annoyed by the reductiveness of its analysis, especially in accounting for electoral results. IIRC his discussion of the 1970 midterms was focused entirely on Nixon's tactics and blamed them for the Republicans' disappointing results without once mentioning how a first term presidential incumbent's party usually does poorly in midterms.

Mandark · « **Reply #1873 on:** April 15, 2020, 08:19:14 PM »

I read Before The Storm and Nixonland and liked them but this also triggers the "don't trust my own opinions that are over a decade old" rule.

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #1874 on:** April 16, 2020, 03:22:01 AM »

^what companions would you recommend for capital?

Rufus · « **Reply #1875 on:** April 16, 2020, 07:55:44 AM »

Quote from: curly on April 15, 2020, 07:44:34 PM

Who do you guys trust for political takes on perfidious Albion? Their media is somehow even worse than ours with the exception of really niche outlets like New Left Review which aren't exactly up to date on the latest developments

Not a news source, and not solely focused on Britain, far from it, but...
https://www.talkingpoliticspodcast.com/

VomKriege · « **Reply #1876 on:** April 16, 2020, 08:03:56 AM »

Quote from: Crash Dummy on April 16, 2020, 03:22:01 AM

^what companions would you recommend for capital?

Exploitation.

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #1877 on:** April 16, 2020, 08:30:32 AM »

i'm not ready for practical side of things, let's stick to theory for now

Rufus · « **Reply #1878 on:** April 16, 2020, 08:45:07 AM »

Aren't you in accounting?

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #1879 on:** April 16, 2020, 09:30:42 AM »

taxes! indirect taxes at that, and i try avoid tax accounting as much as i possibly can and stick to advisory & strategic stuff

shosta · « **Reply #1880 on:** April 16, 2020, 03:20:34 PM »

https://twitter.com/evanmalmgren/status/1250811904135749639

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US. DOZENS!

VomKriege · « **Reply #1881 on:** April 16, 2020, 03:35:00 PM »

TMZ
ResetERA
TheOnion

curly · « **Reply #1882 on:** April 16, 2020, 06:39:21 PM »

Regular New Left Review reader checking in

N+1 and Viewpoint pretty often as well, but even Jacobin and The Nation can have worthwhile stuff from time to time. Think I've read one piece from Endnotes which was interesting but also exhausting pessemistic

shosta · « **Reply #1883 on:** April 17, 2020, 11:23:51 PM »

Quote from: hhkcvaoitsso on April 13, 2020, 08:37:33 PM

https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1249777968471130112

they pay this guy to write shit like this

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1251259137830379522

benjipwns · « **Reply #1884 on:** April 17, 2020, 11:29:21 PM »

I posted some hott quotes in the garbage thread from a single page of ResetERA's thread on that if you're feeling self-destructive

shosta · « **Reply #1885 on:** April 17, 2020, 11:47:17 PM »

The SPD should never be let off easy

but I do agree that forums poster curly should join the united front instead of nurturing his crush on Gloria La Riva

shosta · « **Reply #1886 on:** April 17, 2020, 11:58:43 PM »

https://twitter.com/cordeliers/status/1250550257366302720

benjipwns · « **Reply #1887 on:** April 18, 2020, 12:10:09 AM »

I remember when the big thing was banning all face coverings because only people with something to hide would cover their face. How quickly our tinpot Mussolini's change their ways.

shosta · « **Reply #1888 on:** April 18, 2020, 12:42:50 AM »

we haven't had a matt rant this good in a long time

starts at 11:50

going in on The Nation at 21:00

nachobro · « **Reply #1889 on:** April 18, 2020, 11:08:18 AM »

i just noticed how much he looks like sam hyde

shosta · « **Reply #1890 on:** April 18, 2020, 02:55:47 PM »

we're eatin junk food tonight, boys

curly · « **Reply #1891 on:** April 18, 2020, 03:39:30 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on April 17, 2020, 11:29:21 PM

I posted some hott quotes in the garbage thread from a single page of ResetERA's thread on that if you're feeling self-destructive

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curly · « **Reply #1892 on:** April 18, 2020, 03:44:49 PM »

Quote from: hhkcvaoitsso on April 17, 2020, 11:47:17 PM

The SPD should never be let off easy but I do agree that forums poster curly should join the united front instead of nurturing his crush on Gloria La Riva

As a Californian I'm free to waste my vote as I please, don't blame me that you swing-staters have to waste your vote on a Democrat

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #1893 on:** April 18, 2020, 04:35:12 PM »

Quote from: hhkcvaoitsso on April 17, 2020, 11:23:51 PM

Quote from: hhkcvaoitsso on April 13, 2020, 08:37:33 PM
https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1249777968471130112

they pay this guy to write shit like this
https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1251259137830379522

I know about this thanks to Parenti-sama

team filler · « **Reply #1894 on:** April 19, 2020, 12:31:59 AM »

shosta · « **Reply #1895 on:** April 19, 2020, 01:00:57 AM »

Quote from: Esch on April 19, 2020, 12:26:39 AM

I don't wanna post about memes, sectarian shit or Reddit in this thread unless I absolutely have to but this one got me. So many levels of ideology to this, it's like a barolo with a decade of age. You have to be completely borktarded to tease out all the little secondary notes

https://twitter.com/COMPLETEANAR/status/1251546958025707521

finally, I've found it. the worst tweet in history

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #1896 on:** April 19, 2020, 03:58:16 AM »

shosta and i are going to scramble our brains now, pray for us

Quote from: Esch on April 16, 2020, 11:36:26 AM

Quote from: Crash Dummy on April 16, 2020, 03:22:01 AM
^what companions would you recommend for capital?

Really I think there's a couple different ways to approach it and that depends on who you are and what your needs are. I started off reading v1 and v2 using the big harvey companion Verso sells. I think that book is pretty good, but I think I still struggled for a while because I didn't read any classical poli econ in schools aside from maybe a little smith? and i think he doesn't 100 percent nail things like the value-form. Anyway its annoying because marx spends tons of time directly addressing their arguments sans context but only someone with genuine enthusiasm for this like shosta is actually gonna sit there and read Ricardo. I'll just list off some secondary stuff that helped me and why. As far as marx himself reading wage price profit and the grundrisse helped me as well.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/pilling/works/capital/index.htm

this book is a great overall companion. easy to navigate in this form too and its free.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/rubin/index.htm

Isaak Rubin has some good writing just on value itself.

https://www.marxists.org/subject/economy/authors/anikin/pre-marxian-economy.pdf

this old soviet textbook talking about the objects of investigation and philosophy of economics up until marx is great imo, i love all the bitchy dunks on say and sismondi and it helped me understand how political economy as a science developed historically from a marxist worldview. easy read. enjoy this stuff because it gives context as to why and how these investigations took place and the historical conditions that gave birth to them (e.g. ricardo and smiths professions giving them insights but also showing how their investigations were hindered by the conditions of their time and class obligations) and i like the side of marxism that explores how material conditions give rise to the possibility for a specific school of thought or insight to be conceived and thus, the possibility for knowledge itself

https://www.marxists.org/archive/ilyenkov/index.htm

Ilyenkov's work was useful to me for understanding the core logic and "philosophy" of capital, ie the object of marx's investigation isnt an object but a process. shit like that. I think this stuff is probably gonna get less mileage from you cuz u strike me as someone who's given some reading time to idealism/materialism/logic in general but i figure it can't hurt.

marxists.org is a blocked site here

thanks for sharing though, will try find alternative sources

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #1897 on:** April 19, 2020, 01:17:46 PM »

eh, teek hai I’ll find them one way or another and my backlog is ridiculous as is

team filler · « **Reply #1898 on:** April 19, 2020, 05:25:10 PM »

El Babua · « **Reply #1899 on:** April 19, 2020, 11:07:59 PM »

https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1252069864803614721

benjipwns · « **Reply #1900 on:** April 19, 2020, 11:17:51 PM »

Quote from: curly on April 18, 2020, 03:39:30 PM

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Sorry, unlike some other posters, whenever I make suggestions about things related to ResetERA.com outside of the garbage thread please consider them entirely directed at stost, Vom, etc. (sometimes Esch and others) more than most non-garbage thread posters like yourself or jake or Mandark.

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Though I will admit that particular thread of theirs IS pretty good for the "thinking of your own concerns (like sexual assault) is selfish and egotistical when UberHitler could take power thanks to you not voting" SACRIFICE FOR The Party postings.

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shosta · « **Reply #1901 on:** April 19, 2020, 11:27:40 PM »

stop calling this number

shosta · « **Reply #1902 on:** April 19, 2020, 11:34:22 PM »

fine! i can shoulder four times the burden! ill vote four, five, even ten times for biden! diamond joe forever. no malarkey. fire it up yes we can

team filler · « **Reply #1903 on:** April 20, 2020, 01:33:27 PM »

https://twitter.com/BlakeDontCrack/status/1252288365950464000

curly · « **Reply #1904 on:** April 20, 2020, 08:17:12 PM »

Quote from: Esch on April 19, 2020, 11:30:06 PM

Seeing Xanax Joe's latest commercial made me want to throw my lot in with curly and Kara and show some love to Gloria at the ballot box. I'm over it.

At these rates of growth we can flip Utah

curly · « **Reply #1905 on:** April 20, 2020, 08:17:52 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/doltery/status/1252299368117370881

Figured this is as good a place as this as any

shosta · « **Reply #1906 on:** April 21, 2020, 02:11:16 PM »

must... resist...

team filler · « **Reply #1907 on:** April 22, 2020, 04:14:37 PM »

https://twitter.com/vincecable/status/1253020673573871617

shosta · « **Reply #1908 on:** April 22, 2020, 04:17:01 PM »

Glad to see Lib Dems demand that Boris Johnson take control of the commanding heights of the economy!

shosta · « **Reply #1909 on:** April 23, 2020, 01:21:46 AM »

https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/1253079244298694658

BIONIC · « **Reply #1910 on:** April 23, 2020, 01:34:45 AM »

I am the walrus.

team filler · « **Reply #1911 on:** April 23, 2020, 06:13:01 PM »

the queen don't miss

queen azealia took down musker and his lil skank too

curly · « **Reply #1912 on:** April 23, 2020, 09:16:04 PM »

Think her account got suspended because she said Russians were both inbred and crossbred

El Babua · « **Reply #1913 on:** April 23, 2020, 09:33:35 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #1914 on:** April 24, 2020, 11:38:34 AM »

https://twitter.com/DSA_LosAngeles/status/1253371039922479104

shosta · « **Reply #1915 on:** April 24, 2020, 12:47:58 PM »

Reminds me of that line in Settlers about how European marxists will always fail to stand up for non-white people.

shosta · « **Reply #1916 on:** April 24, 2020, 01:14:44 PM »

https://twitter.com/davidgraeber/status/1253717069876604930

shosta · « **Reply #1917 on:** April 24, 2020, 03:14:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/zeithistoriker/status/1253708682665136128

Democratic centralism

shosta · « **Reply #1918 on:** April 24, 2020, 08:45:49 PM »

I know Verso publishes some cranks but that thread really botches the story about Bretton Woods. Reading that you'd think there was some kind of international coup by the neoliberals to get rid of the fixed rates. By 1971 the situation had become completely unsustainable and there was no other option but to end convertibility.

curly · « **Reply #1919 on:** April 25, 2020, 06:56:16 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/AntonJaegermm/status/1253857976886198272

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Author Topic: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry. (Read 219373 times)