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« Reply #360 on: May 04, 2019, 10:05:23 AM »
FMA sucked  :lol

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« Reply #361 on: May 04, 2019, 02:30:19 PM »
I mean, how? The structure of DBZ and FMA are polar opposites. DBZ is heavy on action. FMA is heavy on philosophy and story. FMA has action but it’s not the main means of progressing the plot. The comparison makes no sense.
I wasn't trying to directly compare, just offering another example of similar anime i did watch (and it's the closest i could think of) i usually avoid this kind of anime in general, so probably not many other examples i could come up with.
They still had the "explain everything that's happening with words" thing, and the number one reason i dropped it was the awful humor, with character screaming as opposed to having actual jokes.

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« Reply #362 on: May 04, 2019, 04:24:44 PM »
ahhh i getchu
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« Reply #363 on: May 04, 2019, 04:50:45 PM »
anime>>>game of thrones

if you disagree you're racist

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« Reply #364 on: May 04, 2019, 05:55:25 PM »
I think the real weeb analogy to make here is that ASOIAF is Gantz.

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« Reply #365 on: May 04, 2019, 06:35:52 PM »
Gantz sucked.

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« Reply #366 on: May 04, 2019, 06:37:31 PM »
See, you're already spotting common themes!

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« Reply #367 on: May 04, 2019, 06:56:38 PM »
:lol
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« Reply #368 on: May 04, 2019, 08:35:41 PM »
In any of the various media of Gantz does any of it make sense?
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« Reply #369 on: May 04, 2019, 10:23:06 PM »

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« Reply #370 on: May 05, 2019, 06:22:50 AM »
Which is such crap as if the last few seasons have been garbage
or something

Book readers really are the fucking worst
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« Reply #371 on: May 05, 2019, 06:28:45 AM »
They have been crap. Search your heart. You know it's true.

The few good characters have turned into complete shite.

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« Reply #372 on: May 05, 2019, 06:30:49 AM »
Which is such crap as if the last few seasons have been garbage
or something

Book readers really are the fucking worst
I haven't read the books, and i still think the quality drop after S4 is obvious.
However i think Season 5 was worse than the following ones.

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« Reply #373 on: May 05, 2019, 07:49:25 AM »
They have been crap. Search your heart. You know it's true.

The few good characters have turned into complete shite.

I absolutaly disagree. Have been watching since the beginning of the show, and while some characters have certainly dipped, and the writing isn't as good as the first few seasons ( understandable since they had the books to work off ) I think the show is still miles ahead of most television shows. I most certainly still enjoy it a lot.
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« Reply #374 on: May 05, 2019, 08:20:43 AM »
Book readers really are the fucking worst

easy there, resetera.

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« Reply #375 on: May 05, 2019, 08:48:51 AM »
Book readers really are the fucking worst

easy there, resetera.

Not here specifically, but on other forums, youtube comments etc

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« Reply #376 on: May 05, 2019, 09:19:51 AM »
the last episode was enjoyable to watch but utter shit lore-wise and anyone who disagrees definitely liked mass effect 3’s original ending

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« Reply #377 on: May 05, 2019, 11:17:20 AM »
Which is such crap as if the last few seasons have been garbage
or something

Book readers really are the fucking worst

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« Reply #378 on: May 05, 2019, 01:12:12 PM »
Which is such crap as if the last few seasons have been garbage
or something

Book readers really are the fucking worst

:lol

The show is worse in comparison to its own self! We don't even need to throw the books into this.
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« Reply #379 on: May 05, 2019, 04:07:45 PM »
The show got 'worse' because many of the more experienced actors have had their characters die on the show. I don't think the writing has changed all that much, except that there's more focus on action than narrative.

Actors like Aidan Gillen and Charles Dance could carry scenes all by themselves.
Rose Leslie and Kit Harrington had chemistry on screen (and off screen  :doge). Clarke and Harrington simply don't.
Carice van Houten by herself is a good actress but without Stephen Dillane as her counterpart to manipulate she has no role to play.

A few stars have really improved their acting during the course of the show. Especially Sophie Turner.
Take this scene for example, which is supposed to be 'tense'


Lady Sansa is defiant, steadfast and compassionate all at the same time. Turner plays Sansa really well.
Clarke has about two different emotions and her voice rarely changes as she reads her lines.
Note how scenes like these are also recorded very slow for no particular reason.

Now compare it to this 'tense' and slow scene. Just a random roundtable discussion with high stakes:


And this runs in the entire show. Cersei talking with Qyburn and Euron just doesn't have the same weight as a conversation between Tywin, Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion.
You won't get a lengthy monologue because there's no one left to give them. The writers have to work with the characters that are left.
Who are either young and inexperienced, side characters with elevated roles (such as the Unsullied Commander) or characters without the acting skills of the heavyweights.

So when you look at who's left alive and grade them on acting skills:

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S-tier
???

A-tier
Cersei Lannister
Tyrion Lannister

B-tier
Sansa Stark (getting up to A in some scenes)
Samwell Tarly (in some scenes Sam is A-tier)
The Hound
Bronn
Tormund Giantsbane
Jon Snow (but it depends on who is counterpart is)

C-tier
Arya Stark (Maisei Williams is hit and miss)
Jaime Lannister
Brienne of Tarth
Qyburn
Davos Seaworth
Varys

D-tier
Bran Stark
Daenerys Targaryen (Clarke is just all over the place, sometimes she gets up to B but it is mostly shit especially her scenes with Harrington)
The Mountain
Euron Greyjoy
Gendry
Yara Greyjoy
Grey Worm
Missandei
Podrick
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You can easily spot the problem that the later seasons of the show had. Because more and more 'good actors' die and more and more mediocre actors take center stage.
Last week another character died which kept Clarke's scenes together. So as writers you do the only thing that you can, you have them fight and you make it look flashy.
And even that went wrong with the D-tier sand snake sisters in an earlier season. And honestly we can't blame the writers.

They couldn't predict that Clarke wouldn't develop better acting skills over the course of 8 seasons or that the kid that they cast to play Bran Stark would continue to look bored.
Because the show is structured in a way that most of their top talent would die during the course of 8 seasons it was inevitable that in some areas the overall quality would take a hit.
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« Reply #380 on: May 05, 2019, 04:15:39 PM »
The show got 'worse' because many of the more experienced actors have had their characters die on the show. I don't think the writing has changed all that much, except that there's more focus on action than narrative.


I'll spare my time considering the length of your post and tell you that you're wrong. A character like Tyrion or Varys has been turned into a gaggle of one liners. They used to have one liners, certainly, but they were good one liners. Now they're craptastic low hanging fruit. They also used to present a certain cadence of depth.

Also many of the best characters (such as the aforementioned Varys and Tyrion) are very much alive.

Sophie Turner improving as an actress does nothing to change the lower quality of the overall writing level. Which in many cases were lifted straight from the source.
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« Reply #381 on: May 05, 2019, 04:26:21 PM »
Just a sample.

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« Reply #382 on: May 05, 2019, 04:36:37 PM »
never read the books, show still bad  :trumps

imagine if rey took out snokes with the same bullshit move  :camby :lol

it's not quit Lost bad, thankfully. I had to stop watching that crud during season 3, binged final season after it aired  :mueller :trash
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« Reply #383 on: May 05, 2019, 04:39:08 PM »
Tyrion's actually the character I think improved the most from the books. He's meant to be Westerosi Oscar Wilde but his dialogue's super clunky.

Last couple seasons have been a bit of a waste for him. Peter Dinklage extricating himself from a series of jams >>>> Peter Dinklage giving sincere advice to Emilia Clarke.

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« Reply #384 on: May 05, 2019, 04:40:21 PM »
I am in serious need of PD, Jack, and a few others on figuring out what the fuck happened to the Heart Tree last episode. Of my knowledge of Westeros religions I have no answer for it or what the ramifications are. I seriously need an answer.
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« Reply #385 on: May 05, 2019, 04:50:28 PM »
Tyrion's actually the character I think improved the most from the books. He's meant to be Westerosi Oscar Wilde but his dialogue's super clunky.

Last couple seasons have been a bit of a waste for him. Peter Dinklage extricating himself from a series of jams >>>> Peter Dinklage giving sincere advice to Emilia Clarke.

Yeah, I've been rewatching S1 concurrently with the new season, and the contrast in his arc is stark. His arc just fizzled out and running on fumes now. Honestly they should've just given him a heroic death in the last episode, because his character is useless now. Maybe they have some plans for him, we'll see.

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« Reply #386 on: May 05, 2019, 04:56:14 PM »
Oh shit a bunch of stuff has leaked.
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« Reply #387 on: May 05, 2019, 06:08:22 PM »
I can go on about Book vs Show Tyrion but this about sums it up

https://twitter.com/OneTruePoster/status/1124522499927085056

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« Reply #388 on: May 05, 2019, 06:21:04 PM »
I can go on about Book vs Show Tyrion but this about sums it up

https://twitter.com/OneTruePoster/status/1124522499927085056

I don’t recall this at all but ok lol
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agrajag

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« Reply #389 on: May 05, 2019, 06:38:27 PM »
me neither. What I do recall is Cersei being more human and less one dimensional villain in the books.


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« Reply #391 on: May 05, 2019, 06:42:02 PM »
Tyrion also does a backflip when he meets Jon Snow.

There's a lot going on.

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« Reply #392 on: May 05, 2019, 06:56:35 PM »
sufferable cunts :delicious
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« Reply #393 on: May 05, 2019, 07:00:57 PM »
me neither. What I do recall is Cersei being more human and less one dimensional villain in the books.

Human? If anything the books show just how fucking insane she is. Which is why, of the post-season 1 characters I felt Cersei is the most accurately written character. She’s fucking nuts. The problem is that the show doesn’t go into why - and that’s the Maegi prophecy. But even with the prophecy Cersei is still insane despite it. Remember, Oberynn tells Tyrion that he and his sister went to Casterly Rock to visit when Tyrion was born and Cersei hated Tyrion so much even then for “killing” her mother during birth that she pulled and twisted on baby Tyrion’s penis until he cried from the pain while Oberyn and sister could do nothing but watch her wrath.

Cersei is more dimensional, sure. But it just shows how much dimension of a psychopath she truly is. The show has done its job in showing how truly awful she is I’d say and is easily the best character on the show running right now.
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« Reply #394 on: May 05, 2019, 07:13:05 PM »
I may need to reread (ain't nobody got time for that), but I remember Cersei chapters showing her motivation for protecting her children that at least somewhat humanizes her. Also I liked how book Cersei was a master of seduction and appearing innocent when she needed to, Lena Heedy just has a permanent bitch face and acts like a cunt all the time. It's been ages since I read the books tho so my memories may be off.

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« Reply #395 on: May 05, 2019, 07:21:22 PM »
Cersei often has double motivations.

It’s true she cares about her children. But it’s also true she’s a psychopath. Often a lot of times she says things to defend her children, such as protecting Tommen from what’s her face Tyrell it’s actually a mask for her true motivation: paranoia - due to the maegi prophecy that says a woman will usurp her and her brother (which one she doesn’t know) will kill her. So she’s obsessed with lady Tyrell because she sees her as a threat so she acts like she knows what’s best for Tommen by trying to not get them involved since what’s her face is popular with the people and the future queen, something Cersei was no longer considered.

The show still shows Cersei deeply cares for her children. It also shows she’s insane as fuck. So I think it’s a pretty accurate portrayal especially compared every other character that seem to have lost any resemblance over time.
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« Reply #396 on: May 05, 2019, 10:21:35 PM »
wow Jamie is a simp  :lol

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« Reply #397 on: May 05, 2019, 10:27:49 PM »
"Maybe Cersei will win and kill us all, that would solve our problems."

Classic Tyrion. :lol

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« Reply #398 on: May 05, 2019, 10:33:57 PM »
another L for Tyrion  :lol

Missandei  :(

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« Reply #399 on: May 05, 2019, 10:43:00 PM »
2 more eps left.  :o

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« Reply #400 on: May 05, 2019, 10:48:36 PM »
missanbae  :tocry

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« Reply #401 on: May 05, 2019, 10:50:55 PM »
Those huge ass crossbows are the fucking easiest loading shit ever.

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« Reply #402 on: May 05, 2019, 10:52:55 PM »
Those huge ass crossbows are the fucking easiest loading shit ever.

yeah everyone has the quickload skill, Bronn with his crossbow too

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« Reply #403 on: May 05, 2019, 10:54:24 PM »
They mentioned Dorne

Bring back Bad Pussy please?  :-[


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« Reply #405 on: May 06, 2019, 12:34:54 AM »
...this bish really gonna blow a 3 dragon lead, isn't she?
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« Reply #406 on: May 06, 2019, 01:24:44 AM »
you hate to see it  :-\

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« Reply #407 on: May 06, 2019, 01:40:17 AM »
:rejoice CERSEI

And Jaime rides south to kill his sister and save us all :rejoice
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« Reply #408 on: May 06, 2019, 02:07:17 AM »


I have been waiting for this. Kill her :rejoice

Jaime fucking Lannister's tremendous arc in the flesh :lawd
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« Reply #409 on: May 06, 2019, 03:07:52 AM »
...this bish really gonna blow a 3 dragon lead, isn't she?
cersei is the lebron james of westeros  :gladbron
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« Reply #410 on: May 06, 2019, 03:16:21 AM »
Like this dumb biiiaaaatttccchhh already knew that Cersei’s army has dragon piercers. Obviously they’re gonna bunker down and make more of them to defend the capital. What was she expecting going with a handful of ships like a dumbass?

The quality of writing on this show  :notlikethis
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« Reply #411 on: May 06, 2019, 03:24:51 AM »
#demthrones  :gurl
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« Reply #412 on: May 06, 2019, 03:38:08 AM »
Like this dumb biiiaaaatttccchhh already knew that Cersei’s army has dragon piercers. Obviously they’re gonna bunker down and make more of them to defend the capital. What was she expecting going with a handful of ships like a dumbass?

The quality of writing on this show  :notlikethis

I am the rightful queen.

Yes I will march my tired, exhausted troops down to King's Landing. They will do my bidding.

Wait, why do people prefer Jon?!

« Last Edit: May 06, 2019, 03:44:04 AM by Cindi Mayweather »
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« Reply #413 on: May 06, 2019, 07:12:55 AM »
Night king should have won
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« Reply #414 on: May 06, 2019, 08:53:13 AM »
Night king should have won

Not gonna lie it woulda been nice seeing NK throw Cersei off a cliff or something after years of her plotting and ignorance finally catch up and overwhelm her

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« Reply #415 on: May 06, 2019, 09:06:51 AM »
Night king should have won
Between Cersei, NK and Daenerys, is hard to pin point who's most imbecile.

I think Dany would win it though.

NK was an idiot, but Arya won with cheat codes.
Cersei at least was right not to send troops to defeat the NK, since they did just well (and depleted their own forces) alone.
Dany is just one moronic decision after the other.

If she were to end up on the thrones, i predict the seven kingdom in flames by week 2.

It's really hilarious seeing her lose one dragon after the other in the dumbest way possible.

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« Reply #416 on: May 06, 2019, 09:07:54 AM »
I'll say though, the Jon/Dany conflict, is the most interesting one we've had in the show since the last 3 or 4 seasons, at least on paper.

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« Reply #417 on: May 06, 2019, 09:33:52 AM »
Like this dumb biiiaaaatttccchhh already knew that Cersei’s army has dragon piercers. Obviously they’re gonna bunker down and make more of them to defend the capital. What was she expecting going with a handful of ships like a dumbass?

The quality of writing on this show  :notlikethis

According to Weiss and Benioff, she "forgot" about Euron's fleet

 :neogaf

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« Reply #418 on: May 06, 2019, 09:59:21 AM »
lol they left a starbucks cup on the table in one of the scenes

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« Reply #419 on: May 06, 2019, 10:05:57 AM »
...this bish really gonna blow a 3 dragon lead, isn't she?

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