River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/white-nationalists-begin-adopting-clowns-as-their-next-symbol.109783/post-19561657

Bad timing as era get ready to shill for a Joker movie

What are you talking about? They were already planning to shit on the film because “DC and alt right”.

welp, I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong, Boredfrom called it

I don't get how they don't understand trolling?   

I think they get it, but they feel that life is a giant Internet forum where if they bitch enough the mods (authority figures) are gonna ban the trolls.

[nachobro]

[benjipwns]

I think they get it, but they feel that life is a giant Internet forum where if they bitch enough the mods (authority figures) are gonna ban the trolls.

ACAB

[benjipwns]

User banned (1 week): persistent hostility, trolling and bad faith(repeatedly misrepresenting other posters) across multiple threads

lmao

It's amazing to me how angry you still are

[benjipwns]

dude literally got banned for this post

User Banned (1 Month): Returning from ban and doubling down on dismissive and inflammatory behavior

Fresh out of Reset jail. Did a quick back to back stint in the slammer. But I’m out that bitch. I Got to remember to agree with certain topics or keep my opinion to myself here smh

[benjipwns]

news flash asshole, some underprivileged differently-abled groups have difficulty understanding sarcasm 

and by that you mean resetera.com llc unpaid moderation staff

is this an example:

User banned (2 days): trolling, antagonizing other members

This just happened to me after 6 purchases. When I tried to buy Detroit.

6 purchases?

Thanks for ruining PC gaming

[thisismyusername]

Transhuman getting DRAGGED by the homophobic GAFgoldies. GET BACK IN THERE TRANS!

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/does-it-upset-you-when-a-tvshow-movie-game-etc-you-like-has-the-creators-make-one-of-the-characters-lgbt-retroactively-purely-for-agenda-purposes.1481128/post-254277493

LMAO Tyler, you fucktard: Liking the "BAN HIM TYLER" doesn't make you any better than *autist*

[Drainage]

FF seems to think the purpose of a forum moderator is to Assess Productivity and close threads he deems will be placed in the lower quartile at a future audit.

The way he moderates era tells you errrrrrrrthing you need to know about what kind of HR rep he is.

How do you think FF went from assaulting young women in the back of a movie theater stockroom to working in the HR department over the course of 3 short years?

Dude is productive.

[benjipwns]

YIKES FOUND SOME UNMUTUAL DISCUSSION IN THE PC-ERA THREAD AGAIN, MODS MODS MODS, HOW DO I REPORT:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/pc-gaming-era-may-2019-romance-of-the-three-storefronts.114434/post-20836396

The worst thing about the EGS stuff is how nasty this site has become. Maybe it was always like it? and I just wasn't aware but scrolling through that sale thread people are being such arseholes. Its really disappointing. Im not here for that shit. Think ill stick to this thread from now on.

This site has always been nasty as fuck. You see it any time people dare to criticise Sony, people lose their fucking minds. Despite this place being progressive in a lot of ways when it comes to gaming a large percentage are corporations first.

Most of them aren't even PC Gamers. Search through their post history and you'll have a hard time finding any posts in PC threads (plenty in console ones though)

And that's assuming they aren't throwaway alts in the first place. 1 day bans won't stop their trolling.

Its an Era problem as a whole, dogpiling gets really out of fucking control here. Ge0force went in hard, maybe a bit too hard for the thread they were in but on Era mistakes are not allowed.

Epic is slowly killing this community.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

dude literally got banned for this post

User Banned (1 Month): Returning from ban and doubling down on dismissive and inflammatory behavior

Fresh out of Reset jail. Did a quick back to back stint in the slammer. But I’m out that bitch. I Got to remember to agree with certain topics or keep my opinion to myself here smh

 

How much of a bitch of a mod do you have to be to read that and drop a month long ban?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

LMAO Tyler, you fucktard: Liking the "BAN HIM TYLER" doesn't make you any better than *one who incoherently screeches*

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/uk-nanny-state-oi-guv-that-theres-an-assault-spoon-innit.1481689/post-254279278

guess his UK adsales and visitor impressions have dried up

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Those idiots think discounts are bribes and moneyhats?

[Jenkem]

I reheated a chalupa in a toaster oven on toaster settings (flipped it halfway) and it's actually pretty good...

[benjipwns]

dude literally got banned for this post

User Banned (1 Month): Returning from ban and doubling down on dismissive and inflammatory behavior

Fresh out of Reset jail. Did a quick back to back stint in the slammer. But I’m out that bitch. I Got to remember to agree with certain topics or keep my opinion to myself here smh

 

How much of a bitch of a mod do you have to be to read that and drop a month long ban?

Nobody wants to talk about how it's time for a final solution to ResetERA.com's recidivism problem.

[Jenkem]

Just saw that discussion between Durante and SweetNicole. Awesome.

So, is ResetERA also bought by Epic?

link? or don't we do that anymore?

nevermind, found it. no thanks to you. 

[Uncle]

dude literally got banned for this post

User Banned (1 Month): Returning from ban and doubling down on dismissive and inflammatory behavior

Fresh out of Reset jail. Did a quick back to back stint in the slammer. But I’m out that bitch. I Got to remember to agree with certain topics or keep my opinion to myself here smh

yoooooo who got inflamed

[benjipwns]

Just saw that discussion between Durante and SweetNicole. Awesome.

So, is ResetERA also bought by Epic?

link? or don't we do that anymore?

"it begins" the page before, but here is where SweetNicole steps in: https://www.resetera.com/threads/e3-pc-gaming-show-2019-is-being-sponsored-by-epic-see-egs-guidelines.116859/post-20769848

[HaughtyFrank]

Your favorite mod made another giant post about a very cereal topic

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-response-to-the-ubisoft-philosophy-on-video-games-and-their-politics.117370/

Please block me in a doorway instead

[benjipwns]

If you're familiar with some of my older topics, I've always really enjoyed approaching video games as literature. It's perhaps no surprise then that I would get mad online and write 4,000 words about how I think video games are important. But like I've iterated in the past, I'm not really an authority on anything. You are certainly welcome to disagree with me and I will not be so humorless as to take it personally.

not really thinking the way the OP is framing this will be beneficial...

[shosta]

3,477 words

[BisMarckie]

Thanks for explaining art to me Finale Fireworker! 

[Nintex]

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to make this thread. Finale Fireworker It's something needs to be talked about (which is depressing, as it just shows the immaturity of the medium, as well as everyone in and around it)

Unfortunately i have nothing to contribute to the topic, as you've said it all better than i ever could.

I just wanted to post in here, and show my genuine appreciation for the work you put into making the topic. Thank you.

now this is art

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Theres nothing more productive than a 4,000 word essay 99% of your userbase are going to and the other 1% are just going to say "omg, best post <3"

[benjipwns]

I think there are two possibilities here. The first is that Ubisoft knows their PR is deceptive and has no illusions about the political nature of their video games. If this is the case, their claims to the contrary are merely marketing meant to distance their corporate identity from any particular political philosophy. The second possibility is that Ubisoft genuinely thinks they do a good job at not making political statements and therefore don’t need to take any responsibility when it comes to the messages their games contain. I think the first possibility is rather sinister and the second possibility is rather dumb.

shut up dummy

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

and you can tell crossing eden didn't even read it, because its shit talking his darling

[BisMarckie]

3,477 words

That‘s a 4 credit point essay for my students. I will tell them that people write that much for fun and virtual backpats on a vidya game forum the next time they complain.

[benjipwns]

What is art?
This is an unanswerable question.

rest of the answer

The definition of what constitutes art is entirely relative, fluid, and inconsistent. It varies between time periods, philosophies, and individual critics. It’s also, in my opinion, totally irrelevant to this discussion. Rather than seek a definition of art that everyone can agree on, I think it makes sense to suspend the conversation entirely. Justifying art impedes conversations about media. Media is important enough on its own whether you think it is art or not.


Media is the single most influential and powerful human invention. We are uniquely responsible for its creation and, likewise, its consequences. Whether it’s a corporate advertisement, a government propaganda campaign, a religious text, an autobiography, a morning news broadcast, a Hollywood movie, or a cup with a picture on it, all media is created to impart on another human a certain image, feeling, or experience. Media takes all kinds of forms and formats but it is grounded by a singular purpose: humans create media to send and receive ideas and messages.


This includes video games.



Where do these messages come from?
Creators imbue their media with messages so that it can carry an idea or a feeling forward independently. It must speak for itself and elicit the intended response. This is true even, or perhaps especially, if the creator’s intention is ideological neutrality. Neutrality itself is a lofty goal.


This is the basis for comedy, which wants to make you laugh.
This is the basis for horror, which wants to make you scared.
This is the basis for marketing, which wants you to buy something.
This is the basis for propaganda, which wants you to believe something.
And more.


Video games function the exact same way. They are designed to generate a certain response from their player. Maybe it’s to scare them, or challenge them, or relax them, but no video game is designed to make a player think or feel nothing.


This must be accomplished without further assistance from the author. Sometimes the creator is unknown, sometimes they are dead, sometimes they are incommunicado, but at the very least they are almost definitely not there by the time you are consuming their media. The work itself stands as the lone arbiter of its own thesis. So while media may communicate a specific message or feeling very clearly, you usually can’t be sure it’s what the author intended. But whether the author intended a certain response or not usually doesn’t matter, either.


Imagine a clocksmith. Somebody puts great time, care, and effort in to constructing an effective timepiece. When it’s finished, the clock continues autonomously, carrying out its design, and the creator no longer has any input on its function. When you check to see what time it is, you are aren’t asking its creator, you are asking the clock. The clock speaks for itself. We examine media to seek a deeper understanding of the material – not the creator or their intentions.

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[benjipwns]

Ubisoft claims they make neutral and apolitical video games. If this is their intention, they routinely fail, and the political response their games receive (positive and negative alike) indicates this quite plainly. Ubisoft claims they want to give players "something to think about", but they also don't have anything in mind. To believe Ubisoft games contain no overt politics or messages or ideas is delusional. If we take their claims as truth, this means Ubisoft isn’t conscious or aware of the philosophies and concepts their games reinforce. I like Ubisoft, but I think it is cheap and irresponsible to use political images, ideas, and themes without understanding what they mean and then have the gall to claim you meant nothing by it. At best, I think it's really naive.

kys

[benjipwns]

Really good and thorough thread, thanks for taking the time to make it. I agree wholeheartedly. I especially liked the part about unconscious biases and beliefs and how they shape and seep into the media we create. The impression I get from Ubisoft's PR statements, however, is that they simply don't want to be accountable for or receive blowback for any themes or messages within their games. I don't believe they are that naive.

I read your essay as required by the course, to prove this I will now restate something you said in a positive manner. Let me share something resembling independent thought which will not be any different from yours in any way that can be measured. I hope this counts for the feedback I am required to leave, thank you and keep up the good work.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[headwalk]

if only getting through the peer review session was as easy as saying "no, you're wrong and you're a fucking nazi. be better" then chucking them out the building.

[benjipwns]

But to me this thread isn’t about Tom Clancy or Ubisoft specifically. This is about video games as media in general.

Then why did you name it "A response to the Ubisoft philosophy" and spend all your time tut-tutting Ubisoft for "being sinister" in saying any politics aren't supposed to be the focus of their Tom Clancy video games?

[BisMarckie]

if only getting through the peer review session was as easy as saying "no, you're wrong and you're a fucking nazi. be better" then chucking them out the building.

Depends on the field.

[benjipwns]

Ubisoft makes these Generalized-ass statements so they dont piss off their conservative and right leaning audience. they need that white nationalist/birther/flatearth/gamergate/brexit money

At least this post has come to terms with the complete and utter irrelevance of the ResetERA.com cohort within the consumer base of the industry.

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[BisMarckie]

Ubisoft makes these Generalized-ass statements so they dont piss off their conservative and right leaning audience. they need that white nationalist/birther/flatearth/gamergate/brexit money

At least this post has come to terms with the complete and utter irrelevance of the ResetERA.com cohort within the consumer base of the industry.

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I wish Ubisoft would take a stronger stance against flat earthers.

btw, Kyrie Irving is a white nationalist and a birther confirmed.

[benjipwns]

can't believe he left out the Big Incel money, to go with the Big Flat Earth and Big Brexit funds that Ubisoft relies on to keep their million man studios operating

[HaughtyFrank]

Ubisoft makes these Generalized-ass statements so they dont piss off their conservative and right leaning audience. they need that white nationalist/birther/flatearth/gamergate/brexit money

At least this post has come to terms with the complete and utter irrelevance of the ResetERA.com cohort within the consumer base of the industry.

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Why would any of those get mad about Ghost Recon? US Special forces invading Bolivia to exterminate drug cartels actually made people on the left more upset.

[benjipwns]

Their idea of "discussing" politics is "fuck people I hate" repeated until the sun burns out so no wonder they think there's some kind of discussion worth having regarding the political themes portrayed in any of Ubisoft's video games. That's the complexity of the politics within the games anyway.

[stufte]

Ubisoft makes these Generalized-ass statements so they dont piss off their conservative and right leaning audience. they need that white nationalist/birther/flatearth/gamergate/brexit money

At least this post has come to terms with the complete and utter irrelevance of the ResetERA.com cohort within the consumer base of the industry.

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Why would any of those get mad about Ghost Recon? US Special forces invading Bolivia to exterminate drug cartels actually made people on the left more upset.

The mayor of Juarez Mexico was really mad at the depiction of the city in the GRAW2.

[BisMarckie]

Thank goodness you weren’t involved with the development of the game.

[Bore Expert]

I reheated a chalupa in a toaster oven on toaster settings (flipped it halfway) and it's actually pretty good...

I reheated some gumbo atop an Xbox 360 on a cold November night on Bourbon street while thinking of you fellas  #lifehack

[benjipwns]

Even someone sitting down and seriously spending time to criticize the militarism portrayed in Tom Clancy branded products is like...

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[stufte]

Thank goodness you weren’t involved with the development of the game.

 

[benjipwns]

Saints Row: The Third raises more interesting political themes than any Tom Clancy game.

[thisismyusername]

Thank goodness you weren’t involved with the development of the game.

 

[benjipwns]

Actually, it'd probably be more accurate to ascribe 2 as dealing with themes of police corruption, corporate dominance and gang warfare that renders the police ineffective to the point of a paramilitary conflict with the gang that has replaced the city's government. The Third adds the notions of the gang becoming celebrities, expanding into a new city and leading to open conflict with the federal government. (Which the gang wins at the start of IV leading to The Boss assuming the Presidency.)

Who cares about Ghost Recon or Ubisoft? Is that even on Switch at unplayable framerates?

[Nintex]

Who cares about Ghost Recon or Ubisoft? Is that even on Nintendo Switch with Gray Joy‑Con™ at more epic framerates?

fixed

[Boredfrom]

Ubisoft makes these Generalized-ass statements so they dont piss off their conservative and right leaning audience. they need that white nationalist/birther/flatearth/gamergate/brexit money

At least this post has come to terms with the complete and utter irrelevance of the ResetERA.com cohort within the consumer base of the industry.

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Why would any of those get mad about Ghost Recon? US Special forces invading Bolivia to exterminate drug cartels actually made people on the left more upset.

 

Is not exactly that simple...

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-of-thrones-fans-petition-for-hbo-to-remake-season-8-following-controversial-episode.117156/page-16#post-20846434

Ya'll who think this is embarrassing don't get it.

Not being happy with the show's ending and writing this doesn't mean you can't worry about more important stuff in life, and it doesn't mean people's lives are ruined. Everyone will be fine, we know. That petition is barely taking more time to sign than to complain about the petition in this thread. So, nonsense argument.

Yes it's just entertainment, and it's fine if you just view it as something fun you just watch, keep on enjoying it. But let's be honest, this show is a cultural phenomenon, everyone and their grandma watches it, people were speculation and theorising like crazy, it was amazing... for almost a decade, and then to have it all end as a fart in the wind, it kind of hurts and it's fine to feel that way.

D&D absolutely took a dump on their fanbase and this is a way for people to show they're not happy with it.

I don't think there is a chance in hell that we're going to get a remade S8, but maybe this will send a message to HBO that next time they should handle a situation like this differently. If show runners want to move on to something else, let them go and find new ones. It was a horrible mistake to keep D&D working on this.

[HaughtyFrank]

Ubisoft makes these Generalized-ass statements so they dont piss off their conservative and right leaning audience. they need that white nationalist/birther/flatearth/gamergate/brexit money

At least this post has come to terms with the complete and utter irrelevance of the ResetERA.com cohort within the consumer base of the industry.

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Why would any of those get mad about Ghost Recon? US Special forces invading Bolivia to exterminate drug cartels actually made people on the left more upset.

 

Is not exactly that simple...

What do you mean? I'm not saying that the us sending special forces into Bolivia would actually be a good idea, just that the politics in Tom Clancy games lean a lot more right than left.

[Transhuman]

Oh, never mind. Transhuman was banned lol.

What was the ban message?

You have been banned for the following reason: Please refrain from using insults and personal attacks to make your arguments. [254276485]. Your ban will be lifted on Jun 15, 2019 at 8:00 PM.

Would have posted earlier, just woke up

lmao Transhuman was banned for not being homophobic enough?

I suspect it was for calling someone bitch ass nicca

I thought they prided themselves on not being dainty little snowflakes? Guess not

[benjipwns]

I don’t think you’re wrong at all. But I don’t like the denial in the PR. Most companies don’t comment on what their games are specifically about and I don’t want them to. If Ubisoft never said anything about the political themes in their games this thread wouldn’t exist.

But I do think it’s detrimental to deny the nature of your content, especially at such length and with such consistency. I think it hurts the way people perceive your work and I think it hurts the discourse. I think it encourages people to ignore the reality of the games they’re playing. Claims of neutrality and objectivity makes an argument about what the “neutral” state of a conflict is.

BioShock Infinite is a good example of this. By portraying oppression and rebellion as equal in their faults, it effectively insists these ideologies worth equal consideration. The issue for me isn’t that Ubisoft isn’t more forward about what their games are about, it’s that they misrepresent their games as apolitical. Their representation of what apolitical means is, ironically, a political statement.

[shosta]

A month long ban just for calling someone the n-word? So much for the tolerant left.

[Great Rumbler]

Most companies don’t comment on what their games are specifically about

[BisMarckie]

A month long ban just for calling someone the n-word? So much for the tolerant left.

I thought it was fine if you were a nerd yourself.

[Stro]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-yall-do-the-asian-squat.117386/post-20848735

Would love it if someone got offended and read that post as comparing Asians to dogs and reported him

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-yall-do-the-asian-squat.117386/post-20848735

Would love it if someone got offended and read that post as comparing Asians to dogs and reported him

Cultural appropriation.

[nudemacusers]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-yall-do-the-asian-squat.117386/post-20848735

Would love it if someone got offended and read that post as comparing Asians to dogs and reported him

You are what you eat 

[D3RANG3D]

It's the slav squat tyvm.