River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/suv-driver-cuts-off-family-calls-them-beaners-and-then-initiates-a-fight-on-the-freeway-gets-beat-up.122044/post-21659345

Why's it dumb to post the video?

They hurled slurs, cut them off and apparently threw bottles at the car.

People have been shamed online for less.

Back the fuck up dude or I'll online shame you!

That whole thread has one guy getting dogpiled pretty badly.  I don't understand how you can have "no personal attacks against another member" in the TOS and then not even give a warning to posters yelling "Fuck you!" to someone and insinuating they're racist.  Like, I guess it kind of makes sense if they ban the poster getting dogpiled because in that instance, they're not a member even if only temporarily.  But the dude didn't get banned, so...

Users do what modon't !

[VomKriege]

its just not socially acceptable there normally to emote in movies for some reason, I know its not gonna happen anytime soon, but i hope something shakes Japan out of that borg mentality

https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-movies-in-japan-get-special-screenings-where-fans-yell-in-excitement.122110/#post-21662947

[Transhuman]

Man, you need to look at statistics and read more articles. For trans people alone, getting harassed and humiliated by cops is common. Hell, it's even hard for us to get them to take us serious when we try to report sexual assault and harassment, sometimes they even ignore us.

?? ??

I thought they wanted to be treated the same as cis women?

[Momo]

I love how respectful the Japanese MMA crowd is, I mean there's golf claps for what is a bloodsport, meanwhile in the USA T Ferg gets booed by drunk rednecks with no appreciation of how good he is.

[VomKriege]

Some leaks drama...

Because people like to make mountains out of molehills.

Have you seriously not learned anything from what people have talked to you? You literally had the head of Halo reply to your post and you still don’t understand why this is a big deal.

Is he talking about Stinkles ?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-12#post-21662160

Edit : He is ! 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-11#post-21661147

[Spieler1]

shocking takes from one of the biggest nintenbaby shills since neogaf

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-14#post-21663849

Keep the companies in check? Do you hear yourself?


Companies aren't evil people we need to make sure are doing things as we see fit. In this industry they're companies made up of passionate people who put their heart and soul into things who then suffer the reprecussions when people wanting Twitter clout spoil it.

 

that leaker is stupid af, but on the other hand - that corporate cock sucking in the thread, hot damn. presented to you by the place that mistakes disney bootlicking for being progressive.

[VomKriege]

Just because it took longer doesn't mean it's any different.
But that’s not how information works. If a game leaked a month before a show... aah you know what, never mind. You’re good. You got this. Good afternoon. I highly recommend Nakamoto Ramen near shinjuku station for dinner or Katsukura at the top of Takashimaya. Extra cabbage and the double pork chop.

MEDIC !

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-11#post-21661265

[VomKriege]

She's not a fake leaker, she's a dumb one.
But she isn't a journalist?

Quite literally says in her bio lol.

Hobbes
Freelance Games Journalist Verified

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-8#post-21659671

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-feel-like-era-has-a-depressing-vibe.121889/

I can't figure out exactly why. 8/10 when i leave off topic side, i just don't feel any better. Learn about some shit that gets me down, and I'm starting to visit the site less and less. Weird Era is legit my only reason to visiting this side at all. Talk about how big your dicks are you weirdos. But yeah i don't know, anyone else? I don't know what else to say really.

Off-topic is bad
Gaming side is worse

The current landscape is pretty shithouse in general, so it's a matter of seeing if you can ride it out or not. I know I've been dialing down my forum time quite a bit, for a litany of reasons

These metacommentary threads rarely generate productive conversation and so this thread is locked.

Something I learned during the period where I weaned myself off REEEE (and then was eventually permed) was that the less I visited, the better mentally I felt in general.

Now, I am not someone who suffers from mental health issues - this is not bragging or anything like that - I just don't have those issues at all.

What concerns me about a place like REEEE is that if the place can negatively affect my mental health when I am completely mentally healthy, then what is it doing to all those with diagnosed mental health issues?

The only time I actually feel sorry for anyone there is the people who have genuine mental health issues who can't seem to understand that the place and the community is toxic and really fucking bad for their mental wellbeing.


If you're a Resetera community member reading this and you suffer from mental health issues, please do yourself a favour and leave that toxic shithole. It will solve so many of your problems and give you some clear air to deal with your underlying issues. For your own sake, do it.

[benjipwns]

more pride flags for marrec and the rest of you scumbags to learn about

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[Ghoul]

I mean it's pride month, so what color in the flag does the corporate cocksucking come under?

Although I don't think kinks have a place IIRC.

Also this is pretty hilarious.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/#post-21655700

Pretty sure Sabi has an account here.

DOUBT

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Pretty sure Sabi has an account here.

DOUBT

hmmmm I dunno

Frankly NewWabiSabi , I hope you'll reconsider your stance about leaking the E3 Direct.

We waited a year for this, it is better to be surprised and see the reveal as it was intended. We know you have your sources, you don't have to convince anyone.

At the very least, you can tease it in vague terms like you did with Link's Awakening but no need to outright say everything.

I have an idea about how I'll go about sharing it, so that people can't screenshot it convincingly and spread it around. I obviously want to share to the people that want it (and I will, of course), but I want to do it in a way that people that don't want it will not. Obviously sticking to Discord for that is good at the very least. But that is my main concern -- not harming people who don't want to be spoiled. Since I'll only share VERY CLOSE to the direct anyways, i'll make it very hard for the stuff i tell friends to go public at all.

I want to be considerate of people like you, so that's what I'm focusing on. I appreciate you voicing concerns. It means a lot. I promise you won't have it ruined. I'll also talk to Papagenos about this, as I know he'll know just as much if not more perhaps, after what he knew the past few days of Smash VR and fire piranha plant before reveals. It's good to see how much this matters to other people, and drama is the least of what I want when it comes to this kind of stuff.

this sabi business is really yucky, it's like he's threatening people. i get that he wants more followers but jesus, making such a spectacle out of a possible leak is quite obnoxious.

Threatening? Read my reply to Lelouche and my latest tweets. I won't be sharing anything publicly, and I'm going to take several measures to not have it spoiled outside of my private groups. I don't want to ruin this for people who want to be surprised Let's look forward to E3!

Has that accurate mixture of faux-importance, entitlement and desperation for attention

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

and I don't get why everywhere posting about NINTENDO NINJAS SILENCE 100% ACCURATE LEAKER don't fucking post the leaks they made that were supposedly 100% accurate

[VomKriege]

and I don't get why everywhere posting about NINTENDO NINJAS SILENCE 100% ACCURATE LEAKER don't fucking post the leaks they made that were supposedly 100% accurate

It's pretty hard to follow but in the midst of all the noise my impression is that she didn't leak anything yet with regards to Nintendo, just announced for several days she is going to, on her Discord or whatever.

She apparently had Keanu Reeves in C2077 and some word for word text for the Xbox Scarlett so she definitely has sources of some kind but

[benjipwns]

Good. The two job/hoppy I hate the most is paparazzi and leakers. They try to make money/fame out of someone else expense.

Maybe sharing company secrets second hand, while knowing they are company secrets is illegal? Not a lawyer but that would make sense to me.

They're called whistleblower and they're supposed to be protected under law, although even that has been under attack lately.

she's got no inside source, she went from being a marcus sellar caliber "leaker" to knowing the full e3 beat by beat. there was hacking involved, if not by her, by someone close

I wonder why most people don't talk more about the fact that Nate Drake, BronsonLee, and others, are implying that Sabi got all those infos by illegal manners. I think it's huge.

everyone posting in this thread should receive drone process

[benjipwns]

lol

[VomKriege]

I wonder why most people don't talk more about (...) BronsonLee

 

[BIONIC]

more pride flags for marrec and the rest of you scumbags to learn about

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I’ve always been a trans male at heart 

[Spieler1]

This blogger is not a real journalist LIKE ME And now he's hurting the innocent marketing teams of those beautiful companies

[BIONIC]

This blogger is not a real journalist LIKE ME And now he's hurting the innocent marketing teams of those beautiful companies

He busted his fucking ass being a Pokémon fan for 10 goddamn years. Show some respect, kiddo

[Nintex]

Fucking amateurs 

[thisismyusername]

All you need to know about Joe and Serebii:

[who is ted danson?]

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lol

Benji
Verified
Intelligence agent on thebore.com

[Ghoul]

Imagine throwing your insiders under the bus for some clicks and some clout.

Honestly people get fired because of people like this, but they're just super cool with it.

[Nintex]

Most companies realize that they can't keep everything a secret because so many people are involved. Especially right before the show.
But there's a difference between throwing out some cryptic hints and systematically leaking everything.

I wonder who that Sabi person is. It's usually some dumb intern that is overlooked by the organization.
The fact that Nintendo knows who this person is means that the other publishers will soon figure out the identity as well.

Nintendo is always crazy with their NDA shit though. I remember in the Wii days that certain games would be out in Japan for months and in the west everything past level 1 was still under NDA.
And such NDA's were even upheld for ports and games that had playthroughs on YouTube. I know this one guy they ghosted for years because he accidently published a Monster Hunter port review an hour early.

[recursivelyenumerable]

You're not multiple people I'm not using They or Them. 

We are multiple people

[BisMarckie]

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lol

Benji vs. the videogames should be enough to get you vERAfied.

[BIONIC]

https://twitter.com/erikaverkaaik/status/1138010633209696257

[BisMarckie]

She's not a fake leaker, she's a dumb one.
But she isn't a journalist?

Quite literally says in her bio lol.

Hobbes
Freelance Games Journalist Verified

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-8#post-21659671

Can't wait for you to meet up when he has immigrated  to France.

[VomKriege]

I really hate the argument of "leaks can hurt devs and jobs" & "loose lips sinks stock prices" as a sledgehammer argument. Not because it's inherently false but at this rate everything potentially can hurt a dev (or any private company in any sector really) : from bad reviews to me not buying games or even deciding to buy game A over game B.

There's one guy in the thread that also go "Curious how you claim to love games but are deaf to game makers complaints" as if that wasn't the norm across the board to care for the art/product while being mostly oblivious about how it was made, especially on collective works and especially in a globalised economy.

It's been really consistent how those "emotional blackmail" arguments seems to pop up constantly in ERA across the board no matter the topic. I can't help but notice how words like "hurt", "pain", "damage", "harm" get so frequent even when discussing something that is so relatively harmless as spoiling a marketing event half a day in advance (if that). That Sabi guy post on ERA for instance has sentences like "not harming people who don't want to be spoiled", "I want to be considerate of people like you"...

 

[daemon]

https://twitter.com/erikaverkaaik/status/1138010633209696257

Keanu Reeves cancelled.

About what Vomkriege said... well I think some type of leaks are like that asshole spoiling a movie script for people to be upset. Others are just... okay. I mean, if Keanu Reeves was leaked, people wouldn't have been as excited when he appeared in the trailer and on-stage

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/erikaverkaaik/status/1138010633209696257

"tired understanding of cyberpunk" 

[Uncle]

why is this person doubling down on calling BigBoss someone who hates LGBT when their images literally show that they consider themselves trans and were 100% calling out others who didn't want to date trans people

Because there is a 50% chance BigBoss will be banned because he has an "extensive history,"

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And a 50% a mod will step in and say, "pardon me fellas, could you please not use evidence that makes one of our good posters look stupid.  We only support civil discourse."

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Edit: and I missed that it already happened.

when I first saw it, was just a mod saying "enough with the hostilities" but looks like they got Novel 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/armed-neo-nazis-crash-detroit-pride-with-police-escort-see-staff-post.121978/post-21658051

User Banned (Duration Pending): Inflammatory accusations, long history of infractions for hostility and false accusations against other users

The irony of your comments given your shit talking about trans struggles in the past is not lost on me, yes

[VomKriege]

"Leaks" are a big gray area and it's probably the better compromise. It's just too vague in itself if it doesn't fall under the purview of confidentiality clauses, corporate espionage, copyright, journalist and whistleblower protection plus whatever other qualifications I may forget.

In the grand scheme of things, "spoiling" a few hours beforehand marketing events for vidyagames is pretty mild.

That Sabi guy is being pretty bad at this and his recklessness might end up having consequences for his sources which is kind of a dick move.

[Propagandhim]

User Banned (Duration Pending): Inflammatory commentary and generalizations; account still in junior phase

I can't know for sure obviously, but i've worked many 45-60 hour weeks and never felt abused. I feel like the majority of people complaining about crunch are just complainers, you'll find them in literally every work environment you ever work in. There are always people that feel they deserve better treatment or more compensation, and they're very rarely the most productive workers.

Inflammatory worker generalization.  This is a serious one - going to have to make this ban pending.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/halo-infinite-is-a-“spiritual-reboot”-takes-place-after-halo-5-e3-2020-is-a-“big-moment”-for-halo-infinite.122037/

Halo Infinite being a spiritual reboot is spiritually true.

[daemon]

"Leaks" are a big gray area and it's probably the better compromise. It's just too vague in itself if it doesn't fall under the purview of confidentiality clauses, corporate espionage, copyright, journalist and whistleblower protection plus whatever other qualifications I may forget.

In the grand scheme of things, "spoiling" a few hours beforehand marketing events for vidyagames is pretty mild.

That Sabi guy is being pretty bad at this and his recklessness might end up having consequences for his sources which is kind of a dick move.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, but it's a pretty asshole move to leak something like the whole Keanu Reeves appearance, while leaking something like a new line of processors, etc can help with consumer decisions so they're okay in my book. In fact, I believe leaks can help a company. Example, AMD stock has been going up on rumors alone. We still don't have real benchmarks to ascertain the effectiveness of ryzen 3000, yet word of mouth is "intel killer"

[VomKriege]

User Banned (Duration Pending): Inflammatory commentary and generalizations; account still in junior phase

I can't know for sure obviously, but i've worked many 45-60 hour weeks and never felt abused. I feel like the majority of people complaining about crunch are just complainers, you'll find them in literally every work environment you ever work in. There are always people that feel they deserve better treatment or more compensation, and they're very rarely the most productive workers.

Inflammatory worker generalization.  This is a serious one - going to have to make this ban pending.

It's a pretty terrible opinion but the ban is even more stupid.

[Straight Edge]

The video game industry is a fragile entity that should be protected at all times except when it must be viciously attacked with mob justice.

[Uncle]

"Leaks" are a big gray area and it's probably the better compromise. It's just too vague in itself if it doesn't fall under the purview of confidentiality clauses, corporate espionage, copyright, journalist and whistleblower protection plus whatever other qualifications I may forget.

In the grand scheme of things, "spoiling" a few hours beforehand marketing events for vidyagames is pretty mild.

That Sabi guy is being pretty bad at this and his recklessness might end up having consequences for his sources which is kind of a dick move.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong, but it's a pretty asshole move to leak something like the whole Keanu Reeves appearance, while leaking something like a new line of processors, etc can help with consumer decisions so they're okay in my book. In fact, I believe leaks can help a company. Example, AMD stock has been going up on rumors alone. We still don't have real benchmarks to ascertain the effectiveness of ryzen 3000, yet word of mouth is "intel killer"

it's possible they themselves are controlling the rumors because they know it will help their stock, but at the same time don't want to get into conspiracy theories where everything that ends up good for a company must be secretly part of their own plans, so yeah I get ya

I was thinking that too, "oh leaks are so harmful" but it's completely unpredictable how it impacts anything

if you want to talk about this Nintendo thing specifically, let's say 200k people will tune in and get hype without knowing anything about the conference

but imagine a scenario where it was leaked they're showing off I dunno a new open world Kid Icarus game in the Breath of the Wild engine and everyone goes "whaaat that sounds nuts I gotta watch the show" and now 250k people are tuning in

[Momo]

Just because it took longer doesn't mean it's any different.
But that’s not how information works. If a game leaked a month before a show... aah you know what, never mind. You’re good. You got this. Good afternoon. I highly recommend Nakamoto Ramen near shinjuku station for dinner or Katsukura at the top of Takashimaya. Extra cabbage and the double pork chop.

MEDIC !

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-11#post-21661265

[marrec]

https://twitter.com/erikaverkaaik/status/1138010633209696257

"tired understanding of cyberpunk" 

Wired understanding of cyberpunk:

[benjipwns]

One thing not factored into this leak/spoiler thing is how believable you should take the "insider" at all. Somebody going "oh yeah, Keanu Reeves is going to show up to promote Cyberpunk, which he's now in" doesn't sound plausible until it happens because it sounds more like fanfic.

If the person says "Halo and Scarlet have zip to show other than a bunch of dumb bs that will only mean something if Microsoft has to rush out to 'clarify' stuff" that's believable and congrats you're now spoiled. For what will happen at a press conference at an industry event for video games. You piece of shit garbage tier human being.

Frankly, anyone who doesn't just pop over to the developers YouTube channel afterwards and watches the trailers deserves everything they get and more. Quite frankly o'connor, anyone who watches the conferences live to BE SURPRISED when it's not their job should be thrown in Gitmo receive a years pass to Disney.

[PogiJones]

shocking takes from one of the biggest nintenbaby shills since neogaf

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-14#post-21663849

 

that leaker is stupid af, but on the other hand - that corporate cock sucking in the thread, hot damn. presented to you by the place that mistakes disney bootlicking for being progressive.

Really good disguise. No one will guess it's you

[BisMarckie]

What about us folks who just tune in to watch Jeff Gerstmann be dismissive and to hear terrible jokes?

[benjipwns]

Benji vs. the videogames should be enough to get you vERAfied.

they don't take gmail accounts breh so I couldn't even get an account, plus I'm probably blackballed from the start and not in the good way of being blackballed

even though I can't even get me, filler and Cauli unbanned on NeoGAF.com despite the desperate need Evilore has for us and the even more desperate need that the archives have for my avatar to be restored

[marrec]

Benji vs. the videogames should be enough to get you vERAfied.

and not in the good way of being blackballed

 

[nachobro]

What about us folks who just tune in to watch Jeff Gerstmann be dismissive and to hear terrible jokes?

spoilers: dan ryckert is gonna make weird noises whenever something related to mario party comes on the screen

[BisMarckie]

It's probably better if you don't join right now, I have heard that the forum is a depressing plae  full of meta-commentary.

[benjipwns]

there's so much bad legal analysis in that leak thread i'm eating good, look at this dummy:

When you post part of a copyrighted product, your only allowance for doing so is fair use. So if something is copyrighted, and you claim fair use, the offended party needs to have a prima facie case. Proving they have at least the basis of a case. Fair use is an affirmative defense to copyright infringement, and is protected in many ways, so not to allow copyright to prevent criticism. The four factors of fair use is a tool to see if there's a case. it means that fair use is the only allowed instance of copyright infringement. As I showed in response to your previous post, there's little to show that posting unpublished spoilers is fair use. This is why GoT leaks from season 8 weren't posted to major news sites. It's not legal.

...

So, no. Leaks aren't legal. Leaks aren't journalistic in nature. Spoilers aren't allowed to be shared. Forums like this do have a better case of claiming fair use, because of the discussion ongoing. That person on twitter isn't commenting on shit. They're just spreading copyrighted information. And might also be breaking other laws, depending on how they came about the information. Or might be jeopardizing whoever shared the info with them.

[benjipwns]

I don't want to join a forum that's losing all its women and minority posters due to unchecked Nazis anyway. If I wanted that I could go to Stormfront, which probably has more women and minorities on it.

[BisMarckie]

What about us folks who just tune in to watch Jeff Gerstmann be dismissive and to hear terrible jokes?

spoilers: dan ryckert is gonna make weird noises whenever something related to mario party comes on the screen

Alex Navarro was just aping the same joke Jeff made 2mins before over and over.

[benjipwns]

And if they choose to not be transparent and it leaks in the meantime it's on them.

Literal victim blaming.

Wow.

[nachobro]

i haven't watched them talking over bethesda but the best part of MS was vinny's look of concern at every announcement

[benjipwns]

I think its rather narcissistic of leakers to post inside info. Rumors are one thing, they are all fun but posting facts IMO is sabatoge and downright uncalled for mere days before a reveal. No one has that privilege.

[BisMarckie]

there's so much bad legal analysis in that leak thread i'm eating good, look at this dummy:

When you post part of a copyrighted product, your only allowance for doing so is fair use. So if something is copyrighted, and you claim fair use, the offended party needs to have a prima facie case. Proving they have at least the basis of a case. Fair use is an affirmative defense to copyright infringement, and is protected in many ways, so not to allow copyright to prevent criticism. The four factors of fair use is a tool to see if there's a case. it means that fair use is the only allowed instance of copyright infringement. As I showed in response to your previous post, there's little to show that posting unpublished spoilers is fair use. This is why GoT leaks from season 8 weren't posted to major news sites. It's not legal.

...

So, no. Leaks aren't legal. Leaks aren't journalistic in nature. Spoilers aren't allowed to be shared. Forums like this do have a better case of claiming fair use, because of the discussion ongoing. That person on twitter isn't commenting on shit. They're just spreading copyrighted information. And might also be breaking other laws, depending on how they came about the information. Or might be jeopardizing whoever shared the info with them.

I have my second PhD on media spoilers and this poster is 100% correct.
This is true for ALL jurisdictions in the world, oddly enough.

[BisMarckie]

i haven't watched them talking over bethesda but the best part of MS was vinny's look of concern at every announcement

I think Dan is just there forthe drinks and the snacks.

[BisMarckie]

shocking takes from one of the biggest nintenbaby shills since neogaf

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-sends-a-cease-and-desist-to-insider-that-has-leaked-pretty-much-every-e3-2019-announcement.122088/page-14#post-21663849

 

that leaker is stupid af, but on the other hand - that corporate cock sucking in the thread, hot damn. presented to you by the place that mistakes disney bootlicking for being progressive.

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Really good disguise. No one will guess it's you

Report that bad faith actor.

[VomKriege]

Spoilers aren't allowed to be shared.