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[Cindi Mayweather]

Straight Sized lol

[Cindi Mayweather]

Having him as a kid for two movies sucks ass, I probably overplay my love for the Tobey movies for exaggeration, but I genuinely enjoyed the drama and intensity of it all.

I had zero desire to see this new movie despite liking Spiderman, and it's hilarious how any discussion of the movie post-watching is just

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J.K. Simmons as JJJ

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The funny thing is I don't even like Tobey as Spider-Man and found him to be the weakest part of the Raimi movies (of which I only truly like the first one). I'm in the minority of thinking that there hasn't been a live action Spidey I liked without caveats.

But goddamn I don't want teen Spidey. I want either struggling to make it to Dr. Connors class while selling photos for pennies and barely keeping MJ around college student Pete or nearing 30 struggling with the job market and keeping his marriage together Pete. I always liked the whole relatable aspects to Spider-Man and how as he got older e still had relatable problems which made him stand out from Mutants at an academy, an Alien raised in Kansas, billionaire with severe mental issues, etc. but keeping him as a teen forever in most adaptions and comics just makes him a character you grow out of quickly (insert har har you should grow out of it anyway dork jokes) instead of one that's interesting to follow. It's probably I ended up liking the game as much as I did in spite of it's flaws, and why Peter in Spider-Verse is the closest to what I'd want in a movie. Helps a lot that the game somehow actually had the balls to do shit the comics were too afraid too for years, even though a big part of the appeal to Spider-Man comics was at the time they would pull shit that stuck.

tl;dr

Fuck One More Day.

i've said the same shit. Spidey is about an every man.

Who literally gives a fuck about teenage Peter Parker? He is a teenager in like 20-30 issues of the original Amazing then graduates HS and goes to college. Then real shit happens and he fucking drops out. Peter Parker is an every man, poor mother fucker who can barely afford ends meet, while his own lone family (Aunt May) lives home alone and struggles to pay bills, while he works a thankless job as a super hero risking his life every damn night while his supportive also poverty stricken wife worries for his safety. Meanwhile dude is going to school on top of all this crap and has to balance a goddamn marriage.

That's the appeal of Spider-Man.

This teenage shit. who literally CARES.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

And he's straight sized!

[Cindi Mayweather]

This is also why I liked Spider Verse so much.

Oh wow, actual Spider-Man and not some movie studio's horse shit.

Name any famous Spider-Man story. Venom, Gwen Stacy, him working as a teacher in the goddamn ghetto. He's an adult. I do not give a FUCK about Ultimate Spider-Man and the teenage shit. I keep hoping the next set of Spider-Man films bomb so Sony can finally unfuck themselves and make Spider-Man an adult every man that people actually know and love.

[blame space]

venom (2018) is good

[tiesto]

My Walmart always has the new shit too, at midnight most of the time.

that's for hype shit like halo 9

when I went in on release day and asked the clerk for senran kagura peach ball he looked at me like I had a dakimakura on my head

Honestly it's almost impossible to find obscure weeb games or physical releases of niche indie games at Best Buy or Walmart, that's really the only reason I still bother with GS.

[Cindi Mayweather]

This is also why I'm so confused about the MCU spider-man uproar. His stuff is average Spider-Man material. Likable if you just you want some Spidey but definitely top of the top Spidey stories.

I'm so astounded by the reaction of people no longer getting mediocre Spider-Man stories.

[Rahxephon91]

Who really cares about the teenage shit?


People who bought Ultimate Spider-man for years and made it one of the most successful things Marvel ever did. The thing that serves as one of the examples of the modern take of the character.

Also how does telling stories of the teenage Spider-Man take away from his everyday man thing? Every person has been a teenager. The problems teenage Spider-man faces are relatable problems.

[thetylerrob]

My Walmart always has the new shit too, at midnight most of the time.

that's for hype shit like halo 9

when I went in on release day and asked the clerk for senran kagura peach ball he looked at me like I had a dakimakura on my head

tbh they've always had the Yakuza games but maybe those have transcended into slightly above weab game tier

[EchoRin]

This is also why I liked Spider Verse so much.

Oh wow, actual Spider-Man and not some movie studio's horse shit.

Name any famous Spider-Man story. Venom, Gwen Stacy, him working as a teacher in the goddamn ghetto. He's an adult. I do not give a FUCK about Ultimate Spider-Man and the teenage shit. I keep hoping the next set of Spider-Man films bomb so Sony can finally unfuck themselves and make Spider-Man an adult every man that people actually know and love.

Spider-Verse was great. Best superhero movie in the last few years.
I agree with you on going with adult Spidey in the next iteration of the Spider Man movies. I didn't mind the MCU Spiderman, but I'm ready for Peter to be a grown up again.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Fuck Ultimate Spider-Man.

It's okay and benefited from having a single writer for most (all? haven't read in years) of its run.

But who ultimately (lol) cares. Just because something is popular doesn't mean I have the obligation to give a single one of my fucks.

[Rahxephon91]

I love the argument here.

Make the Spider-man people love.

Fuck you for making a spider-man based on comics people love and movies that were successful. I can’t understand why there’s an uproar about these movies and character interpretation that people like.

[Cindi Mayweather]

At one point in time Ultimate Spider-Man was just its own thing in its own land. Now teen Spider-Man is basically the status quo and it's dog shit.

[Rahxephon91]

Fuck Ultimate Spider-Man.

It's okay and benefited from having a single writer for most (all? haven't read in years) of its run.

But who ultimately (lol) cares. Just because something is popular doesn't mean I have the obligation to give a single one of my fucks.

Where is this logic?

You don’t care about it.

But stop asking who cares about it. Because clearly it’s a much loved interpretation of the character. So much so that people like the movies clearly influenced by it. From the games to the movies it’s a noteworthy part of the character.


I don’t understand the problem with their being variations of a character Spider-man like Batman is not stuck as one version. Marvel decided to go with teenage Spider-man and it’s worked for their movies.

I’m not going to complain if they decide to do the original 5 X-men as a starting point either. Even though that is obviously not the major part of X-men.

[Rahxephon91]

How is it the most pervelant?

It’s not the comic character.

It wasn’t the Rami character.

It’s not the video game character. Not even PS4 Spider-man.

It’s not even all the cartoon characters.

It’s really just these movies. Which are clearly leading to college Spider-man.

[Cindi Mayweather]

I really need to play that game man.

I have to play a fucking video game to get my Spider-Man fix.

The comics shat on its audience. The movies think the appeal of Spider-Man is a teen superhero (). The video game is all I got left lmao. 

That's why I latch on to Spider Verse. It's all I have besides back issues I've already read lmao

[Rahxephon91]

I love the argument here.

Make the Spider-man people love.

Fuck you for making a spider-man based on comics people love and movies that were successful. I can’t understand why there’s an uproar about these movies and character interpretation that people like.

I mean adult Spidey was depicted in a game that sold like 13 million copies so it's not like there's a gulf between the popularity of teen Pete and Adult Pete

ok and? People like Spider-man in general. My point is that it’s dumb to complain or ask who the fuck cares about teen Spider-man. As if it is some bastardization of the character.

But I know this is another episode of “I

[BisMarckie]

Let’s talk about stuff cool guys enjoy, like Metal Gear Solid and Persona.

[Cindi Mayweather]

How is it the most pervelant?

It’s not the comic character.

It wasn’t the Rami character.

It’s not the video game character. Not even PS4 Spider-man.

It’s not even all the cartoon characters.

It’s really just these movies. Which are clearly leading to college Spider-man.

Haven't the comics mostly focused on teen Pete for over a decade now? Outside of that you got two movie series focusing on teen Pete. The Raimi movies were a long time ago now and I mentioned the videogame as being kind of an exception nowadays. Spider-verse is as well but seemed to get away with it cause they still had a teen in Miles as the primary protagonist.

Comics focus on adult Pete but it's still post-One More Day and Peter, last I checked, isn't really an every man. At one point, every in NYC gets spider powers. It's really fucking dumb. I was going to say distinguished mentally-challenged but I'm trying to cut that out of my vocab and EVOLVE, like Spider-Man. And then Osbourne kills Peter and takes over his body and he's a total dick to everyone. But other than that, he works for a highly successful science lab or whatever or something. I haven't read them in years lmao

[Boredfrom]

Also kudos to the game and Spider-Verse for finally making a Miles everybody likes. And all they had to do was make him a Terry McGinnis like protege instead of "yo Pete's dead so here's his replacement".

Which is funny since Terry McGinnis is basically "what if Spider-Man was Batman and not a dork"

I feel SpiderVerse also does this to an extent, even if the moral ended being “do your own thing”. Then again SpiderVerse’s Miles is just DCU Statick Shock.

[Cindi Mayweather]

I love the argument here.

Make the Spider-man people love.

Fuck you for making a spider-man based on comics people love and movies that were successful. I can’t understand why there’s an uproar about these movies and character interpretation that people like.

I mean adult Spidey was depicted in a game that sold like 13 million copies so it's not like there's a gulf between the popularity of teen Pete and Adult Pete

ok and? People like Spider-man in general. My point is that it’s dumb to complain or ask who the fuck cares about teen Spider-man. As if it is some bastardization of the character.

But I know this is another episode of “I

When you boil Spider-Man down to geeky nerd who just makes pop culture references but lacks the struggle, the toil, and the punches of life then yes you are a bastardization of Spider-Man.

The "who literally cares" is rhetorical because obviously people care because those Marvel Spider-Man movies sold well at the box office. I don't care about teenage Spider-Man and I don't understand why I should have to defend feeling that way.

Also kudos to the game and Spider-Verse for finally making a Miles everybody likes. And all they had to do was make him a Terry McGinnis like protege instead of "yo Pete's dead so here's his replacement".

Which is funny since Terry McGinnis is basically "what if Spider-Man was Batman and not a dork"

I feel SpiderVerse also does this to an extent, even if the moral ended being “do your own thing”. Then again SpiderVerse’s Miles is just DCU Statick Shock.

It is but it also gives us some hope with actual Spider-Man in it and not just a dumb fuck teenager.

[Rahxephon91]

How is it the most pervelant?

It’s not the comic character.

It wasn’t the Rami character.

It’s not the video game character. Not even PS4 Spider-man.

It’s not even all the cartoon characters.

It’s really just these movies. Which are clearly leading to college Spider-man.

Haven't the comics mostly focused on teen Pete for over a decade now? Outside of that you got two movie series focusing on teen Pete. The Raimi movies were a long time ago now and I mentioned the videogame as being kind of an exception nowadays. Spider-verse is as well but seemed to get away with it cause they still had a teen in Miles as the primary protagonist.

No. Ultimate Teen Peter Parker hasn’t been the focus in nearly a decade. He isn’t even used and hasn’t been since Miles really. Mainline Parker has been an adult and has recently had his status quo been shifted back to something more normal. He had been a CEO and kind of an Iron Man figure for a year or 2 but that’s over now.

The Peter in comics is a 20 something guy. Not a teen.

[Transhuman]

venom (2018) is good

Kemode said he liked it, but I can't in good conscience see a movie with an rt score that low.

[headwalk]

what you all doing watching films about teenage boys in tight little costumes shooting their load everywhere?

[Cindi Mayweather]

If you want me to get extra dorky and somewhat pretentious about Spider-Man

The whole relatable shit and every man aspect of Peter all feed into the real defining thing about him that they keep hammering bluntly so people can get it. The whole "With great power comes great responsibility" thing is all about how Pete constantly slips and has to relearn that lesson, sometimes learns it the hard way. If you want to be more optimistic it's a character that always gets back up no matter how many times shit happens to him.

You can still do that with him being a teen, sure, but that narrows shit down usually. Plus having prom and class field trips be central parts to whatever stories he's going through is kinda "eh" to a dude like me who is far removed from that shit.

I remember being a teenager and being able to go on class trips across Europe. Very relatable stuff there.

[Chim Richalds]

Somebody give me a married, adult Pete who can't pay his bills and a fucking Maximum Carnage adaptation ASAP or fuck off

[Chim Richalds]

Somebody give me a married, adult Pete who can't pay his bills and a fucking Maximum Carnage adaptation ASAP or fuck off

I still enjoy the hell out of that shitty beat em up

That one, Separation Anxiety and The Death & Return of Superman are in heavy rotation in my PS Classic since I loaded RetroArch on it.  I read the arcs as they were hitting the stands as a kid so all of those stories have a special place in my heart.

[PogiJones]

I have a hard time with these sort of things because these subcultures are used as examples and jokes to dismiss legitimate medical condition like gender dysmorphia and trans issues.

I don’t care these subcultures exist and in a perfect world a lot of these people are harmless in comparison to say anti-vaxxers or “science” bigots (those who use false or outdated science to be racist or homophobic) but at the same time I wish they would stay a fun subculture instead of trying for some legitimate standing because it muddies the water and contributes to the Rachel Dolezal effect.

There are people who believe they are otherkin or identify as otherkin, but it isn't real and shouldn't be treated as such. Things like otherkin are in the same vein as "transracial", that only serve to weaken the actual fight that we have over gender identity in the world.



Bingo. It can directly contribute to dangerous, harmful rhetoric.

Hey, no. I'm trans too and I can tell you that otherkin have no effect on trans identities. Transracial stuff does. Otherkin doesn't. Kind of makes me upset to read this coming from a trans mod.

I can tell you it does, and there's plenty of people in this thread echoing the same thing. It might be worth reevaluating your preconception that there is no link between someone identifying as another race or someone identifying as another species. Both are extremely harmful to the fight for gender identity as they are co-opted by others as weapons against gender identity.

Additionally, I'm not staff anymore.

when people argue with you, make sure they know that every single statement they made is wrong and correct them no matter how much it hurts 

A code I live by, tbh

[shosta]

Somebody give me a married, adult Pete who can't pay his bills and a fucking Maximum Carnage adaptation ASAP or fuck off

[Cindi Mayweather]

Somebody give me a married, adult Pete who can't pay his bills and a fucking Maximum Carnage adaptation ASAP or fuck off

my man

[Rahxephon91]

If you want me to get extra dorky and somewhat pretentious about Spider-Man

The whole relatable shit and every man aspect of Peter all feed into the real defining thing about him that they keep hammering bluntly so people can get it. The whole "With great power comes great responsibility" thing is all about how Pete constantly slips and has to relearn that lesson, sometimes learns it the hard way. If you want to be more optimistic it's a character that always gets back up no matter how many times shit happens to him.

You can still do that with him being a teen, sure, but that narrows shit down usually. Plus having prom and class field trips be central parts to whatever stories he's going through is kinda "eh" to a dude like me who is far removed from that shit.

I remember being a teenager and being able to go on class trips across Europe. Very relatable stuff there.

I mean Peter Parker also isn’t a trans person who loves bbc videos. You aren’t going to find everything relatable to him.

But what actually happens in the movie. His stuff with trying to live up to your inspirations, make time for a social life, awkward romance. Those are everyday things that people can relate to. Those are aspects of the character.

But yes get stuck on the fact that he is just a middle class white guy in these movies and not dirt poor.

B

[Chim Richalds]

Somebody give me a married, adult Pete who can't pay his bills and a fucking Maximum Carnage adaptation ASAP or fuck off

I actually know one of the dudes who was in the gangbang scene from that, I never needed or wanted to see his ass, but it was there.

[Chim Richalds]

I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on planet earth who enjoys the Fantastic 4 PSX beat em up.

I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on planet earth who played and loved the fuck out of Too Human, so I empathize.

[Uncle]

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seeing uterus there made me think

are there any men on board this train?

everything you've posted from this movement is either posted by a woman or sure seems feminine in nature

Seems a few, but it's definitely mostly women.

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lmao straight-sized

smile at a fat person?

won't they think you're laughing at their size and prompt more posts like this?

"You may think we aren't aware of the jeers, the laughs, the unkind smiles.  But we see them all.  We feel them all.  And it is not okay."

[Uncle]

what you all doing watching films about teenage boys in tight little costumes shooting their load everywhere?

[Transhuman]

When you're watching Maguire's Spider-Man you want him to succeed because you've seen what a struggle his life is in real human terms and you feel a deep unconscious sympathy for him.

Don't know who could feel sorry for Holland's Spider-Man. He's not poor, women throw themselves at him, he's not bullied, he doesn't lose his uncle, it's not even touched on that he's an orphan, and his Aunt doesn't need his help.

[VomKriege]

what you all doing watching films about teenage boys in tight little costumes shooting their load everywhere?

Also pertinent...

[Propagandhim]

Literally skipped the entire page from the top so I don't have to read Spiderman bullshit, yet it's still going.

[Lonewulfeus]

Literally skipped the entire page from the top so I don't have to read Spiderman bullshit, yet it's still going.

Join me on seniorforums.com, they don’t have a thread for this spiderboi nonsense.

[Propagandhim]

Straight-sized white man fails upward at journalism job.  Real hero you got there, guys.

[nachobro]

 

https://twitter.com/DMC_Ryan/status/1164239754725953536

 

[Propagandhim]

[Spieler1]

What kind of pleb gets out of a Mahvel movie and thinks he just saw genuine art   

[nachobro]

the same kind of moron who works in kideo games and runs a tesla podcast despite never owning a tesla car

[Propagandhim]

[PogiJones]

I had the pleasure of watching a family cry when spiderman dusted in part 1, was fucking hilarious, I laughed harder than what was socially acceptable. Part 2 I was sitting behind an annoying couple where the BF was explaining who everyone was to the GF.

Momo has major serial killer energy

I liked Kira more than ~L~ 

Who didn't? L (and his successors especially) had to constantly cheat to stay on top of Kira.

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Fuck Death Note's ending, btw.

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I didn't. I'm a boring fan of vanilla stuff, so I pretty much always root for the good guy. I love a good, competent villain like the Joker or Kefka, and I do like the good guys to lose sometimes (it raises the stakes and tension), but I pretty much always want the good guys to win in the end.

Also, Kira definitely had the upper hand in terms of advantages. He only had to find the name of one dude that he was constantly around. L had to narrow down the location of Kira from the entire 6 billion population on the whole planet. Sure, he had an organization of support, but the person he was trying to find could have been anywhere in the world and killed someone anywhere else in the world at any time in any way. Kira knew he would be sought after, but he still made blunders that allowed L to track him down very quickly. L was way more competent than Kira.

But yeah, L's successors sucked.

[Tuckers Law]

If you want me to get extra dorky and somewhat pretentious about Spider-Man

The whole relatable shit and every man aspect of Peter all feed into the real defining thing about him that they keep hammering bluntly so people can get it. The whole "With great power comes great responsibility" thing is all about how Pete constantly slips and has to relearn that lesson, sometimes learns it the hard way. If you want to be more optimistic it's a character that always gets back up no matter how many times shit happens to him.

You can still do that with him being a teen, sure, but that narrows shit down usually. Plus having prom and class field trips be central parts to whatever stories he's going through is kinda "eh" to a dude like me who is far removed from that shit.

I remember being a teenager and being able to go on class trips across Europe. Very relatable stuff there.

I mean Peter Parker also isn’t a trans person who loves bbc videos. You aren’t going to find everything relatable to him.

But what actually happens in the movie. His stuff with trying to live up to your inspirations, make time for a social life, awkward romance. Those are everyday things that people can relate to. Those are aspects of the character.

But yes get stuck on the fact that he is just a middle class white guy in these movies anI d not dirt poor.

B

Bruh
 

[Nintex]

If you want me to get extra dorky and somewhat pretentious about Spider-Man

The whole relatable shit and every man aspect of Peter all feed into the real defining thing about him that they keep hammering bluntly so people can get it. The whole "With great power comes great responsibility" thing is all about how Pete constantly slips and has to relearn that lesson, sometimes learns it the hard way. If you want to be more optimistic it's a character that always gets back up no matter how many times shit happens to him.

You can still do that with him being a teen, sure, but that narrows shit down usually. Plus having prom and class field trips be central parts to whatever stories he's going through is kinda "eh" to a dude like me who is far removed from that shit.

I remember being a teenager and being able to go on class trips across Europe. Very relatable stuff there.

I mean Peter Parker also isn’t a trans person who loves bbc videos. You aren’t going to find everything relatable to him.

But what actually happens in the movie. His stuff with trying to live up to your inspirations, make time for a social life, awkward romance. Those are everyday things that people can relate to. Those are aspects of the character.

But yes get stuck on the fact that he is just a middle class white guy in these movies anI d not dirt poor.

B

Bruh
 

[blame space]

https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/mad-men.43047/

Do ya'll watch it on Netflix or Amazon?

No we have DIRECTV satellite

 

 

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/DMC_Ryan/status/1164239754725953536

 

 

[blame space]

https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/not-even-superheroes-can-open-carry-on-sydney-trains.7640/post-123175

Well, I didn't see him but I think the Tupperware container on his lap filled with cup cakes would have allayed my fears.
I'm not up on Marvel comics, so I wouldn't recognise Deadpool.
I do see lots of little boys dressed as Spiderman though.

 

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-just-read-about-otherkin-those-who-claim-they-are-are-they-roleplaying-or-do-they-actually-believe-in-it.136330/page-2#post-23813778

Of course  the actual bigots don't need reasons to be bigots, but a lot of people are still very ignorant about gender dysphoria and trans issues in general, and without being properly educated or doing their own research, they could come to misguided conclusions about trans people and buy into transphobic rhetoric because of things like otherkin that muddies the waters.  Nicole is absolutely correct here. It's difficult enough to educate people on trans issues as it is, we don't need to make it worse for them.
Moreover, it's just never a good idea to feed into delusions in general.

[Rahxephon91]

When you're watching Maguire's Spider-Man you want him to succeed because you've seen what a struggle his life is in real human terms and you feel a deep unconscious sympathy for him.

Don't know who could feel sorry for Holland's Spider-Man. He's not poor, women throw themselves at him, he's not bullied, he doesn't lose his uncle, it's not even touched on that he's an orphan, and his Aunt doesn't need his help.

I don't pity him and you're not supposed to. These movies aren't going for that kind of pathos. They are teen movies about a young Super-hero trying to balance life. You are supposed to find him enduring because his everyday problems are more relatable then Iron Man. This character dosen't exist in the MCU either. This is a perfectly fine take, in keeping with other Spider-man stories. If you don't like you still have the comics, the Rami movies, and even a nice big budget PS4 game that do not follow this take. It is not the status quo.

[headwalk]

literally arguing about the underlying thematic struggles in a spiderman film.

[Stro]

the underlying thematic struggle in every Spiderman film is how do I shot web

[Rahxephon91]

You know, bitching about people arguing or talking seriously about "low art" things is dumb. You don't get cool points (especially since you're doing it on a video game spin off forum) and speaks to your own low vision. Every creative thing has merit and low art vs high art is a pointless argument. Talking seriously about one thing does not mean someone can't see that there are things of a bit higher quality either.

But I know, it's better to be cynical about everything.

[Joe Molotov]

When you're watching Maguire's Spider-Man you want him to succeed because you've seen what a struggle his life is in real human terms and you feel a deep unconscious sympathy for him.

Don't know who could feel sorry for Holland's Spider-Man. He's not poor, women throw themselves at him, he's not bullied, he doesn't lose his uncle, it's not even touched on that he's an orphan, and his Aunt doesn't need his help.

Also he has a hot milf aunt that probably walks around the house in a towel after taking a shower, Tobey just had some old hag. 

[shosta]

You know, bitching about people arguing or talking seriously about "low art" things is dumb. You don't get cool points (especially since you're doing it on a video game spin off forum) and speaks to your own low vision. Every creative thing has merit and low art vs high art is a pointless argument. Talking seriously about one thing does not mean someone can't see that there are things of a bit higher quality either.

But I know, it's better to be cynical about everything.

[Propagandhim]

You know, bitching about people arguing or talking seriously about "low art" things is dumb. You don't get cool points (especially since you're doing it on a video game spin off forum) and speaks to your own low vision. Every creative thing has merit and low art vs high art is a pointless argument. Talking seriously about one thing does not mean someone can't see that there are things of a bit higher quality either.

But I know, it's better to be cynical about everything.

You're preaching to the choir.  I posted 2 papman vids and got no likes

[Potato]

Look, I've got a lot of work to do today, so if you guys and REEE could please just continue to talk about Spiderman, fat people and other shit that    about, that would be  .