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« Reply #361 on: August 15, 2019, 12:36:37 AM »
I have a co-worker that is publicly for Yang. Part of it I suspect is that most teacher unions (and the Charter org that I work for) is waived from the requirement of paying into the Social Security fund with each paycheck, but that also means we won't likely get SS after we retire.

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« Reply #366 on: August 31, 2019, 02:08:22 PM »
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« Reply #367 on: August 31, 2019, 05:17:52 PM »
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« Reply #368 on: October 03, 2019, 09:46:10 PM »
Fuck it, just do UBI. Blow up all these fucking programs and just give people a thousand a month. Trying to convince old people to sign up for programs they're eligible for is the god damn worst.

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« Reply #369 on: October 03, 2019, 09:50:54 PM »
That's his point, get rid of the bureaucratic nightmare.
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« Reply #370 on: October 03, 2019, 11:27:30 PM »
That's his point, get rid of the bureaucratic nightmare.

It'll help my nightmare.

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« Reply #371 on: October 04, 2019, 12:52:41 AM »
Fuck it, just do UBI. Blow up all these fucking programs and just give people a thousand a month. Trying to convince old people to sign up for programs they're eligible for is the god damn worst.

replace welfare and co. with Freedom Dollars™?


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« Reply #373 on: October 11, 2019, 07:53:36 AM »
Fuck it, just do UBI. Blow up all these fucking programs and just give people a thousand a month. Trying to convince old people to sign up for programs they're eligible for is the god damn worst.

replace welfare and co. with Freedom Dollars™?

Yang apparently alluded to that (partial, opt-in, replacement at first leading to ultimately swapping one for the other) and I would assume it's the unspoken assumption of a lot of UBI proponents if only for pratical, budgetary reasons.

That's absolutely not scientific or anything but back when UBI started to be floated at the national level in France I tried to make a quick calculation of what it would cost. Assuming 30m people get 500€ a month (both low baselines, current total population is 65m or so) it's already a 15 billion euros per month / 180 billions a year program. "Welfare" / Social safety net transfers (Prestations sociales) are estimated at 750+ billions a year* (a third of the GDP), there's no way it gets added on top of that with all the deficit and debt already running.

Also has the allure of saying it will simplify and streamline the administrative hurdles, something that has universal appeal (and even moreso in France) and will help curb public spending by consolidating into a single administration all the different agencies and offices part of the safety net.

Any meaningful UBI (1000 euros a month, really, a bit lower than the monthly minimum wage for a full time position but high enough you could mostly survive in the main) would, as far as I can tell, substitute and replace a number of welfare programs out of budgetary necessity which may not be a good thing.**

* With functioning costs, including healthcare and pensions.

** The leftist argument seems to be that in relative terms, substituting an UBI in place of welfare programs currently in place will significantly degrade in relative terms the help received by people on specific situations currently eligible for financial help (disabilities, unemployment, large families...) even if in absolute terms the payments are roughly equal.
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« Reply #374 on: October 11, 2019, 08:41:48 AM »
The other big question for me is how UBI would affect the work market. The optimistic argument is that it would make unemployment benefits permanent (at least for low paid jobs),  deplete the "Unemployment Reserve Army of Capitalism", thus would give dedicated workers more leverage and probably more people looking for part time out of their own volition which could mechanically open more part time positions to fill. The pessimistic outcome is employers lobbying for more contract flexibility and at worst pushing minimum wages down since wages are no longer the main and only base for subsistence but a "bonus" or just as an argument for becoming competitive again with countries with lower standards. The latter would have to be pretty extreme in western Europe to wipe out the rising tide of revenue for everyone, but could certainly mitigate the positive economic aspects of an UBI.

I'm sure there's been plenty of speculative writing on this but it's hard to really know without UBI being passed on a wide enough scale to truly assess it.
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« Reply #375 on: October 11, 2019, 09:18:07 AM »
Another thing that may or may not happen : some form of inflation (rent, for instance) because of a sudden widening of the pool of people with some disposable income.

Also I would venture accession to citizenship in first world countries stiffening significantly. Imagine how strident the people currently admonishing "welfare queens" and immigrants coming over to "leech on social programs" will get if universal, guaranteed benefits become the norm. Especially in countries where citizenship is granted if born on national soil.
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« Reply #376 on: October 11, 2019, 06:31:17 PM »
Another thing that may or may not happen : some form of inflation (rent, for instance) because of a sudden widening of the pool of people with some disposable income.

Also I would venture accession to citizenship in first world countries stiffening significantly. Imagine how strident the people currently admonishing "welfare queens" and immigrants coming over to "leech on social programs" will get if universal, guaranteed benefits become the norm. Especially in countries where citizenship is granted if born on national soil.

Seems a guaranteed.
I've been of the mind that open borders and extensive welfare programs don't mesh too well. Provided of course you are operating as though budgets exist and care what your taxpayers think.

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« Reply #377 on: October 16, 2019, 11:14:41 PM »


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« Reply #378 on: October 19, 2019, 08:41:04 PM »

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« Reply #379 on: October 19, 2019, 09:15:22 PM »
did y'all see Yang shredding it on the skateboard?

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« Reply #380 on: October 19, 2019, 09:21:57 PM »
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« Reply #382 on: October 20, 2019, 05:20:14 PM »
But Yang has put all his money into bitcoin so it checks out
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« Reply #383 on: October 20, 2019, 07:00:13 PM »
https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1185700279804514304

People still pretend they listen to Arthur Chu?

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« Reply #384 on: October 21, 2019, 10:19:51 AM »
his name sounds like someone sneezed

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« Reply #385 on: October 21, 2019, 11:25:24 AM »
https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1185700279804514304

People still pretend they listen to Arthur Chu?

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I'm waiting for Ken Jennings and James Holzhauer to weigh in first...
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« Reply #386 on: October 21, 2019, 05:20:23 PM »
People still pretend they listen to Arthur Chu?
Take a look at how much nonsense the guy tweets and retweets a day. :lol

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« Reply #388 on: October 21, 2019, 06:18:36 PM »
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« Reply #389 on: October 31, 2019, 11:11:46 PM »
$16 per month. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck benefits that are means tested.

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« Reply #390 on: December 07, 2019, 11:47:45 PM »

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/andrew-yang-freedom-dividend-matt-taibbi-katie-halper-useful-idiots-920375/
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Andrew: OK. That’s cool.

Katie: We got to cut to the chase.

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« Reply #393 on: December 22, 2019, 03:40:27 AM »
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« Reply #394 on: December 22, 2019, 07:27:29 AM »
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« Reply #397 on: February 11, 2020, 08:16:09 PM »
It's been fun. Safe travels Mr. Yang

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« Reply #398 on: February 11, 2020, 08:19:47 PM »
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« Reply #399 on: February 11, 2020, 08:27:49 PM »
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« Reply #400 on: February 11, 2020, 09:39:04 PM »
You can't just change the title!

Yang, run for senate in 2 years. You can knock off Gillibrand.

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« Reply #401 on: February 11, 2020, 09:42:14 PM »
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« Reply #402 on: February 12, 2020, 11:51:02 AM »
2024 WE BACK BAYBEEEEEEEEEEE

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« Reply #403 on: February 12, 2020, 12:08:45 PM »
Come join Our Revolution you weird Math hat people, it's the most viable outside the status quo thing going. :pimp
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« Reply #404 on: February 12, 2020, 02:03:07 PM »
Lasted longer than Kamala Harris.
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« Reply #405 on: February 12, 2020, 02:56:44 PM »
godbless you patriot
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« Reply #406 on: February 12, 2020, 05:29:33 PM »
With regards to Yang. Our boi needs to step it up. But I'm losing confidence in his ability to stay in the spotlights.
I was Yang Gang for a short while but he never got passed the launch phase of his campaign.
He also didn't seem to have much of a plan beyond $1000 for everyone.

Oh well, I hope he does something cool with the money he made.
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« Reply #410 on: February 14, 2020, 01:55:22 PM »
The first crypto fashie city  :rejoice

Homeless shelter blockchain
Universal basic incomes (but only for NY citizens)
Drone patrols
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All government buildings auctioned off to WeWork
Yang Gang distributing free synthetic drugs
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« Reply #411 on: February 19, 2020, 03:19:52 PM »
https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1230136474416373760

#YangGang is now the #CNNGang lmao what a twist
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« Reply #413 on: November 03, 2020, 11:24:42 AM »
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« Reply #414 on: November 03, 2020, 06:53:05 PM »
still want my daddy yangee bux  ::)
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« Reply #415 on: December 24, 2020, 01:06:55 AM »
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/andrew-yang-files-paperwork-to-run-for-new-york-city-mayor/2797754/
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Businessman and former presidential candidate Andrew Yang has filed paperwork to run for mayor of New York City, the city's Campaign Finance Board confirmed on Wednesday.

Yang's filing has the potential to immediately upend a race that was shaping up as a contest between long-entrenched city politicians. It comes just days after a new poll giving him a slight lead among his fellow Democrats running for mayor.

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« Reply #416 on: January 18, 2021, 08:30:11 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/Jon_Christian/status/1350821265062453248

I would totally play a Yakuza game staring Yang.

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« Reply #417 on: April 22, 2021, 11:06:43 PM »
Andrew Yang is facing blowback after comments made during an LGBTQ+ mayoral forum that some are criticizing as out of touch and insensitive.

Yang was invited to appear Wednesday at the Stonewall Democrats of NYC, the city’s largest Democratic LGBTQ+ political club, for the group's endorsement screening — and told members he’s now getting his education on gay bars, citing Stonewall and the nearby Cubbyhole.

“Well, first, let me say that if I go to Cubbyhole, I think I'm going to be accompanied by at least one of my two campaign managers who are both gay,” the Hell’s Kitchen resident laughed. “So there's like a lot of, you know, familiarity with, with the community, at the head of my campaign leading it.”

Yang added that he asked one of his campaign managers and Council Member Carlos Menchaca, who endorsed Yang this week, whether the LGBTQ community liked him — a difficult question for any politician to ask of a group of people who do not vote as a monolith, said Rose Christ, president of SDNYC.

“He came across like he was a tourist in New York and said he wanted to visit a gay bar," she said.
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“I genuinely do love you and your community," Yang told the club Wednesday night. "You're so human, and beautiful. You make New York City special. I have no idea how we ever lose to the Republicans, given that you all are frankly, in like leadership roles all over the Democratic Party. ... We have like this incredible secret weapon, it's not even secret. It's like, we should win everything because we have you all."
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Yang’s campaign managers defended his comments.

“If other campaigns want to minimize the importance of visiting and supporting LGBTQ businesses, they’re welcome to do so. But gay bars are an essential part of our City and its history,” Sasha Ahuja and Chris Coffey, Yang’s co-campaign managers, said in a statement. “They are quite literally safe havens for our community, and keeping them here and open is critical. This is why Andrew has prioritized meeting with LGBTQ business owners who invited him in — because he understands that we need to protect and lift up those spaces if we want our recovery to be inclusive and meaningful.”
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