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Svejk

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Hotline Miami is the shit....  Didn't care for the 2nd one much at all.  :-\

Cindi Mayweather

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I like Bloodborne more than Sekiro.

An entire generation of not feeling single player games and in a month I encounter two that I love. Whew. Big dent on the cynicism armor.
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Seriously. Sekiro isnít an rpg. But Bloodborne is an R.P.G.

I havenít played a single rpg I think is good all generation. Years. Rpgs are my goddamn bread and butter.

The amount of choice and ramifications for being wrong make Bloodborne feel like an old school rpg experience of Japanese rpg lore. Iíve been employing my age old dungeon crawl tactics and systemically deducing the game to its parts. It gives me the same feeling I used to get while playing SMT games and other similar dungeon crawl games. Itís like the game was made specifically for me. Iíve made it to Old Yarnham and itís not hard but itís definitely punishing. It feels like a noticeable step up from Darin souls in that department. The enemies here, even the mooks, arenít here to play.

The online makes it so good. Itís so populous that it feels like a real community helping each other out. It reminds me of Demonís Souls when it first came out. Except this came out four years ago.

Stuff like stats, online, co-op, helping other noobs beat bosses gives it a bigger layer of depth that Sekiro could never achieve.

You guys donít know what it means to me to be able to enjoy an rpg again. One that hasnít sold out or gotten boring.

Real talk, I havenít liked too many single player games this gen besides Cuphead and Sekiro. I have played multiplayer literally all generation.

I feel so wrong having not played BB until now that Iím reconsidering other fan favorites from this gen like God of War or Nier Automata and considering giving them a shot.

This post doesnít even come close to how much Iím feeling this game. Itís everything I loved about niche jrpgs but with a bigger budget.

Might be a game of the generation contender. Weíll see.
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Iíd say the dark souls games are more rpg with their builds and loot, Iíd say Bloodborne is a bit more narrative focused and action game focused.

But yeah Sekiro is all that even more so Bloodborne basically sits halfway between Dark Souls & Sekiro.

I do agree that I wish Sekiro had the online stuff. Both for the ambient stuff like ghosts and comments and because itís nice being able to get help. Thereís one boss in Bloodborne that I couldnít beat solo (pretty sure was optional anyhow) but playing coop I was able to beat it and I wish I could do that for some Sekiro bosses.

Also Nier Automata is definitely worth a play even if I feel itís a little overrated and I like the first Nier game better. Havenít gotten to God of War yet.

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I tried nier automata demo and thought it sucked
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Hotline Miami is the shit....  Didn't care for the 2nd one much at all.  :-\

It was alright, but the levels werent as tight as the first one.

Cindi Mayweather

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Whatís the appeal of hotline miami
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Bebpo

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It plays like a super meat boy/Celeste 10 seconds of perfection runs at a time &  tons of painless deaths, but overhead view and stealth action gameplay. The first one is super great, yeah. Has David Lynch feel. Oh and the soundtrack is awesome.
 
I tried nier automata demo and thought it sucked

Full game is way better. Some neat bits, story is interesting, but bland small overworld and a lot of repetition. Give the full game a shot at some point, if you arenít feeling it by the amusement park, bail.

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I liked the first nierís story wayyy more than its gameplay
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Whatís the appeal of hotline miami

The music, the fast paced action and the on the fly decision making.

Collectible masks in the levels changing the way you get through a level.


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Nier Automata had some amazing highs, but too many bland, boring moments.
Story was cool, if you can stomach that anime over dramatic philosophy, i don't think it does a lot with the characters though.

TBH it would've worked much better as a straight up linear action game (or even linear action rpg) instead of this faux open world.

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PC-based gamer here: God of War is poop.  :doge
It was poop in the Jaffe incarnation, and is even more poop now.

Oh please, ask me to carry another crystal at snail's pace for 5 miles!

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I fell down some hole, killer frogs all around, got cursed and died

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Oh please, ask me to carry another crystal at snail's pace for 5 miles!

It's actually good game design cause they foreshadow it by making you carry the log up a road at the start of the game. /s

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There is a bunch of haters here (Xbox, PC based) but do not mind them.

:goldberg weak

GoW was the first game to make me scream 2-3 times solely because its shitty handholding and exposition wouldn't stop. The unintrusive sidecontent without the hamfisted narrative saved it from being bad.

great singleplayer games this gen: Bloodborne, Doom, Cuphead, Sonic Mania, Bayonetta 2, Resident Evil 7/2, Virtue's Last Reward, Astrobot, Monster Hunter World, Colossus remake, Yakuza 0,...

Cindi Mayweather

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Handholding.

*Nam flashbacks*
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Cindi Mayweather

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This game is so amazing. I canít stop gushing. Amass 10k blood echo. Far from safety. Do I keep going because I feel a shortcut incoming or do I retreat while Iím still intact? That dungeon crawl decision making. :lawd Luckily my instincts were right and I got a shortcut!

Hunters with machine guns :lawd


Slowly walking on broken ceiling pillars carefully navigating deep multi-tiered labyrinths :lawd


Massive blood splatters on the ground forcing you to question,Ēwho or what did THAT?Ē :lawd

Unf!!!
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Whatís the appeal of hotline miami

The music, the fast paced action and the on the fly decision making.

Collectible masks in the levels changing the way you get through a level.


Amazing game.  I didn't like the sequel as much, but it's still very much worth playing.

You should definitely check out Katana Zero- it's like a side-scrolling Hotline Miami with a sword.
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This game!!!

The horror in Old Yarnham is so good!! I canít believe it gets better!
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Cindi Mayweather

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Almost beat Blood Demon on first try. I had a summon though. I didnít know the purple thing was a summon because I clicked x too fast to read it. I definitely wonít be summoning in the future.
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Cindi Mayweather

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Somehow, some way, Sekiro and Bloodborne have converted me to Soulsborne. Ordering Dark Souls Trilogy for PS4 when I can. Steelbox! :lawd

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Somehow, some way, Sekiro and Bloodborne have converted me to Soulsborne. Ordering Dark Souls Trilogy for PS4 when I can. Steelbox! :lawd

What about Nioh?
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Plz no spoil
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Cindi Mayweather

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Tried Blood Starved Beast again. Second try and got him halfway. Very easy until his attacks inflict poison and he has that fucking combo. Might want to not want to even evade that combo. It uses so much forward space itís hard to roll out of. Going to see if I can bait it and then punish.
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Cindi Mayweather

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Damn. This boss is hard as shit.

Father G and Cleric Beast are easy af. Took them out on second or third try and first try respectively. Blood Starved Beast second form is a total bitch.
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Ah. I see. This boss is easy. :ohhh
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Cindi Mayweather

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Beat him.
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Fuck grind 5k souls to cure curse

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Fuck grind 5k souls to cure curse

3k from dude at the base of the first bell tower after you beat gargs. those bitch made frogs wouldn't have stood a chance at cursing your ass if you had artorias's sword :trumps  :hitler
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I'll try Bloodborne once I get back to Tokyo and re-setup my PS4. I started it and played for like 40 minutes, but I was not enjoying the Dark Souls trauma feelings caused by the tissue-paper weight corpses being kicked around the scene when I moved.

Someone mentioned it's kind of mythos-inspired/lovecraftian, so I'm going to give it another go.

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Beat Vordt of Boreal last night... Baby steps. Getting back what DS2 legs I  established. Made it past the 2nd primal bonfire in it, but dropped it for reasons.

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Somehow, some way, Sekiro and Bloodborne have converted me to Soulsborne. Ordering Dark Souls Trilogy for PS4 when I can. Steelbox! :lawd

What about Nioh?

 :whatsthedeal
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Cindi Mayweather

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I'll get to it eventually.
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Nioh sucks ass.

Svejk

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Keep it up Svejk! DS3 is in my opinion the best Dark Souls game. Most varied, most polished, most confident. Gives you a lot in return.
Definitely have enjoyed it A LOT more than DS2 so far.

Bebpo

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DS3 is objectively a lot better than DS2.

Plus it helps that it looks a lot nicer than DS1/2.

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I'll try Bloodborne once I get back to Tokyo and re-setup my PS4. I started it and played for like 40 minutes, but I was not enjoying the Dark Souls trauma feelings caused by the tissue-paper weight corpses being kicked around the scene when I moved.

Someone mentioned it's kind of mythos-inspired/lovecraftian, so I'm going to give it another go.

I'm bummed that I don't think Bloodborne is your kinda game from a gameplay experience and you probably wouldn't like it enough to stick with it.
But from a story/atmosphere perspective I think you'd love Bloodborne. It's pretty much the best Lovecraftian game ever.

Maybe watch a video playthrough like a movie and then read the Pale Blood Hunt essay on the story?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL5acskAT_2t062HILImBkV8eXAwaqOj611mSjK-vZ8/edit
Cindy do not read the above link until you've finished the game. VERY VERY SPOILERISH FROM THE START.

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I spent too much time tryna figure out how to get all the crystal lizards in the great hollow. Got stuck in a wall and cursed by da frogs  :lol

only managed to get 3 of those lizard fucks  :ltg

Almost a fun puzzle, but the lizards disappear too fast and seem to be slightly random whether they appear or not between runs?
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Ill grab some screens today Borys, I'm in Blighttown now.

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split damage sucks even more than i thought in ds1. tested a longsword which gave 200 AR with right hand next to artorias longsword which gave ~220 AR. status shows a blue "this weapon makes u stronger" improvement, but the damage output was between 60 and 90% better with the regular longsword depending on enemies at a lower overall AR than with Artorias's  :doge

the r1 looks exactly the same, same speed etc. still a dece weapon for cruising through the catacombs early and other early areas (pretty average by sens fortress), got a +10 longsword and the uchi now tho. just got to anor londo, need to grab that sunlight blade.
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Cindi Mayweather

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UN.

SEEN.

VILLAGE.



This game, man.
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Bebpo

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UN.

SEEN.

VILLAGE.

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This game, man.

Oh man, youíre past Rom  :o

Cindi Mayweather

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Canít sleep. Who tf is Rom? Died against this dude that looks like death, woke up in another world, game became silent hill 2 psychological horror shit
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Ok, nvm youíre not as far as I thought. Yeah, unseen village is cool.

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please keep the bb spoilers low key. i'm borrowing it off a friend to play next week, and i've avoided any critical spoilers up 'til now. just played the first few hrs up to father g and a little further on.
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Fuck grind 5k souls to cure curse

Concern about 5000 souls

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Yo! SEKIRO!

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Yokatta da neeee



BLOODBORNE GAME OF THE GENERATION!!! :rejoice
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Cindi Mayweather

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Fuck grind 5k souls to cure curse

Concern about 5000 souls

 :betty

Cashed in 40k souls last night in BB.
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Fuck grind 5k souls to cure curse

Concern about 5000 souls

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Don Rumata

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New Londo Ruins guy cures you for less, no? May be wrong.

Anyway started DkS1 as well, and sped through the game (relatively) fast, already rang both bells.
Lol i killed Taurus without plunging, with like, one combo.

Almost dropped the game back 2011, because i couldn't get past him.

Svejk

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If I can actually finish DSIII miraculously, I'll definitely jump on BB next. 

Cindi Mayweather

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Iíll beat the Vicar tonight. Doesnít seem too bad in my test run.

Been exploring so much. Finding a woods, a room with an invisible enemy, the unseen village. Shit gone loco. So many choices, so much to do.
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please keep the bb spoilers low key. i'm borrowing it off a friend to play next week, and i've avoided any critical spoilers up 'til now. just played the first few hrs up to father g and a little further on.

what in the fuck. you been in this thread knowing i was going through bb and didn't mention you never played it? God dammit. I'll use spoilers from now on.
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Cindi Mayweather

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Surprised people complain about Bloodborneís community. In my experience theyíve been very respectful and even sweet. Very supportive community.
You probably weren't around the "i just played Bloodborne and i can't enjoy any other game" obnoxious parade.
Especially when it came to the "Witcher 3 vs Bloodborne" threads/posts (which incidentally doubled as a Playstation vs Xbox ones, because Witcher was more tied to MS in marketing terms).
FROM fans are generally insufferable, and Bloodborne is their Jesus Christ, the fact that it's also Sony exclusive makes it all the more succulent.

I mean, Bloodborne is so good that I kinda get it. I really don't judge them. I think the game is good enough to warrant that kind of reaction.
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please keep the bb spoilers low key. i'm borrowing it off a friend to play next week, and i've avoided any critical spoilers up 'til now. just played the first few hrs up to father g and a little further on.

what in the fuck. you been in this thread knowing i was going through bb and didn't mention you never played it? God dammit. I'll use spoilers from now on.

 :lol

I wasn't that concerned about playing it when y'all first started, two friends who's gaming loves are soulsbornes constantly rave about it as the goat soulsborne, the reason to own ps etc. I've been all  ::) I'll wait til it gets a pc port or i can emulate PS4 in 2025 or something. But when i started playing DS1 after DS3 they were all why are you replaying that when you haven't played Sekiro or BB? ('cause it's the GOAT biaaatch) So they convinced me to borrow it and ps4. Can prob whip through ds1 in the next few days.

Currently juggling full time work and finishing my BSc, why not marathon Soulsbornes and start an mmo for the first time as well? (ffxiv being put on hold unfort) Have a lot of little bits of time to randomly jam games since i'm constantly in front of computers. Particularly enjoying ds1 as a return to a familiar world and i can cruise through on previously hard learnt lessons but still challenged enough it's engaging. Something that was so initially challenging now feeling relatively trivial is quite energising as a break from academic and work tasks.
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Surprised people complain about Bloodborneís community. In my experience theyíve been very respectful and even sweet. Very supportive community.
You probably weren't around the "i just played Bloodborne and i can't enjoy any other game" obnoxious parade.
Especially when it came to the "Witcher 3 vs Bloodborne" threads/posts (which incidentally doubled as a Playstation vs Xbox ones, because Witcher was more tied to MS in marketing terms).
FROM fans are generally insufferable, and Bloodborne is their Jesus Christ, the fact that it's also Sony exclusive makes it all the more succulent.

I mean, Bloodborne is so good that I kinda get it. I really don't judge them. I think the game is good enough to warrant that kind of reaction.
Nah.
It's good, but it's just people being hyperbolic as usual.
Combat in BB isn't even particularly good, it's basically Souls' but sped up a bit and made stamina less restricting/impactful.
The visual design is great tho.

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Surprised people complain about Bloodborneís community. In my experience theyíve been very respectful and even sweet. Very supportive community.
You probably weren't around the "i just played Bloodborne and i can't enjoy any other game" obnoxious parade.
Especially when it came to the "Witcher 3 vs Bloodborne" threads/posts (which incidentally doubled as a Playstation vs Xbox ones, because Witcher was more tied to MS in marketing terms).
FROM fans are generally insufferable, and Bloodborne is their Jesus Christ, the fact that it's also Sony exclusive makes it all the more succulent.

I mean, Bloodborne is so good that I kinda get it. I really don't judge them. I think the game is good enough to warrant that kind of reaction.
Nah.
It's good, but it's just people being hyperbolic as usual.
Combat in BB isn't even particularly good, it's basically Souls' but sped up a bit and made stamina less restricting/impactful.
The visual design is great tho.

That's basically calling all combat in Souls games outside Sekiro bad and I'd disagree pretty hard on it. It's different and less tight than a good character action game, but there's a lot of variety and really good enemy/boss patterns throughout all the Souls/BB games. In Dark Souls it's cool finding a new weapon and checking out it's like 2-3 moves and learning how to use the range and speed of them on enemies/bosses.

I mean there was a thread on Era about whether Sekiro actually has good combat or not since it's basically just a slash, slash, slash game while hitting block when the enemy attacks or jump/dodge for the red moves and repeat the whole game and would people even want a Sekiro 2 if it's the same thing since it's kind of a one-trick pony combat system. People were saying Nioh has way more deep combat Ninja Gaiden style. My answer to Sekiro is the same answer as Bloodborne/DS, the combat is limited to a few moves, but the way you learn the enemy/boss patterns and work around them with what you have is where the combat depth is and I think it's pretty good from Demon Souls -> Sekiro.

Also Bloodborne has some excellent level design and level design is a big part of why these games are good.

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That's basically calling all combat in Souls games outside Sekiro bad
Calling something "not particularly good" isn't the same as calling it "bad".  ???
I think the combat in BB (and souls) is pretty good, just not outstanding.
Demon's and Dark 1 had the most interesting one, because of the unique mechanics and slow pace they had, despite being somewhat clunky, but then they back pedaled on those more and more.
Doesn't make it bad though.
Taken as a whole, BB is surely a great game, and the best FROM title yet, but even then, i roll my eyes at people saying it "ruined gaming for them" or similar bullshit.

BTW i don't think Sekiro has a "great" combat system either, it's super fun and incredibly satisfying, but feels very shallow after you get the hang of it.
Haven't played Nioh, so i can't comment on that.

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Taken as a whole, BB is surely a great game, and the best FROM title yet, but even then, i roll my eyes at people saying it "ruined gaming for them" or similar bullshit.

I found it so eye rolling when the friends i referenced above suddenly felt emboldened to speak on game mechanics and the validity of entire genres (all other rpg's are shit now) 'cause they'd played a couple souls games. Er, try playing some other action rpgs that aren't the witcher 3 or skyrim. But they'll happily zone out in dumb fuck shlooters  ::) I'm over it now but The Witcher 3 vs. Soulsborne debates were the dumbest shit.

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