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When will Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time be released?

2021
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Maybe Next Decade
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« Reply #360 on: July 12, 2019, 11:51:10 AM »
lol if you've watched evangelion for the first time as an adult and not an impressionable and vulnerable teen  :snob

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« Reply #361 on: July 12, 2019, 12:44:15 PM »
Wait, there's more to watch after EoE? Give me a quick guide/rundown.

Kaworu is gay... but in SPACE on THE MOON. :o

Asuka-chan has an eyepatch and is 28 but looks 13 still. :doge

Gendo wears some baller Geordi La Forge visor instead of his grandpa transition lens specs. 8)

There's another child who's British and parachutes to school in the morning. :gbcry

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« Reply #362 on: July 12, 2019, 12:52:10 PM »
Wait, there's more to watch after EoE? Give me a quick guide/rundown.

There are 4 movies [1.0, 2.0, 3.0, and 3.0+1.0]. The first movie is basically a remake of the first third of the series. The second movie is basically a remake of the middle third of the series. The third movie goes in a very different direction. Nobody really knows how things are going to play out in the fourth movie.
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« Reply #363 on: July 12, 2019, 01:40:10 PM »
Considering the last film will def release in the near future, I would wait for that and watch all 4 even if the first one is very close in plot with the first major arc.
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« Reply #364 on: July 12, 2019, 02:20:56 PM »
Can't they do one thing simple?  :'(

"Evangelion 2", there you go.

Instead of all this remaking, 3.0+1.0=4.0, "you will (NOT) advance" shit that confuses my blue collar brain.

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« Reply #365 on: July 12, 2019, 02:34:19 PM »
Can't they do one thing simple?  :'(

"Evangelion 2", there you go.

Instead of all this remaking, 3.0+1.0=4.0, "you will (NOT) advance" shit that confuses my blue collar brain.

That's Eva though...

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« Reply #366 on: July 12, 2019, 02:42:58 PM »
Well it’s not really Evangelion 2. It’s a reimagining and originally anyway was supposed to be a new version of Eva for new fans.

It for sure seems to have morphed into something else and regardless of fan theories it will still be it’s own thing. It also has a radically different tone and feel then the tv show.

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« Reply #367 on: July 12, 2019, 03:27:20 PM »
Wait, there's more to watch after EoE? Give me a quick guide/rundown.

There are 4 movies [1.0, 2.0, 3.0, and 3.0+1.0]. The first movie is basically a remake of the first third of the series. The second movie is basically a remake of the middle third of the series. The third movie goes in a very different direction. Nobody really knows how things are going to play out in the fourth movie.

So they remade something that didn't have a real ending because they ran out of money but they changed the ending? This is why Japan has been in a permanent recession.

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« Reply #368 on: July 12, 2019, 04:35:45 PM »
End of Eva is a pretty definite ending.

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« Reply #369 on: July 12, 2019, 04:38:57 PM »
End of Eva is a pretty definite ending.

Yeah. They made the films because it was big money pretty much guaranteed and started spinning a crazy alternative story as they went along.
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« Reply #370 on: July 12, 2019, 05:58:48 PM »
yeah the first movie is basically shot for shot so far, wondering if I should skip to the third.

2.0 is different enough that you should watch it.
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« Reply #371 on: July 12, 2019, 06:02:59 PM »
2.22's ending :delicious

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« Reply #373 on: July 13, 2019, 02:21:24 AM »
So only a fraction of these movies are actually set AFTER EoE, but not really because in retelling the plot, they changed it, so it's actually a sequel to their own story/version of the story?

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« Reply #374 on: July 13, 2019, 02:22:58 AM »
Pretend the series and EoE didn't happen. That's what Rebuild is, it's a new take on the concept.
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« Reply #375 on: July 13, 2019, 02:24:14 AM »
Gotcha.
Then i'll wait for the final (?) movie to come out, and watch em all back to back.

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« Reply #376 on: July 13, 2019, 09:05:16 PM »
How dare you? Watch the movies now, and then wait 10 years to watch the last movie, like the rest of us. :bolo
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« Reply #377 on: July 14, 2019, 07:25:52 PM »
I feel it's a definitive ending because I feel like it says all they wanted at that point while also offering a conclusion to the surface plot.

I know people like to rag on the show because anime fans in thier teens probably use to proclaim the show was deep and "smart". No the show may not be the most incredibly written show ever and it's psychological stuff can maybe be amtuer at best. But I feel that is such a narrow minded version of criticism, this "does the writing hit this level or not". The show is very rough around the edges and in that it honestly feels like a very honest expression of brokenness and issues that people who have a hard time self-identifying or relating to the others feel. And in a way I do feel the show is pretty well done with some pretty well developed characters and storylines they find themselves in.

Saying all that, what I'm trying to get it as to me Evangelion is about people trying to connect and live and so while the tv show offer's an ending thats fine, I also think the movie does the same. I dont actually think it's that vauge and really concludes what I think the show is about. Shinji make's peace with himself and realizes that that world that SELLE wanted, where you can't be hurt because everyone is one being is wrong. Running away from others is wrong and while life is painful, life can be great. It can be great anywhere, you just have to self-realize and be at peace with it and yourself. And this all happens plot wise. He's tempted with the choice, realizes it's wrong, and then rejects Third Impact. Comes back to a shitty world, but maybe it can work. We don't know for sure, but that seems to be the point.

So for me EoE concludes all the themes the show was trying to say. And it concludes the plot stuff too. People give Evangelion shit or look too deeply into the Biblical stuff. It's pretty clear now to a fan of Japanese stuff that the bible stuff is just a style for the robot show. Like how sentai shows have different styles and themes for thier seasons.Or how jrpgs borrow from Norse or whatever else mythology. They just went all in with the Christian Imagery.  Lot of that stuff is just a vehicle for whatever the writers wanted to explore. Which is what Third Impact was. It's not really important to me how you get to Third Impact, but more so what it's about. Which is basically yeah the human condition. Self vs others and whatnot. Would it be better if we all did'nt exist and where one being so we wouldn't hurt each other. You see Shinji's life and maybe it would be. So in EoE you really get to see all of what Evangelion was leading to. And it's a great ending to this really rough and rumble show.

You can argue if the tv show meets the same conclusion or not. If completion happens or doesn't. I don't know. I think last time I watched it, I thought it basically was the same ending. It's just clear that they did'nt have the the time or money to show the character and plot stuff. So they just went with the character stuff. I like EoE, because I feel you get both.
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« Reply #378 on: July 16, 2019, 12:31:21 AM »
I have been watching about an episode per night and I can see why people really like it... but also how it might be both too subtle and hit you over the head too hard, depending on the scene and/or character.


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« Reply #379 on: July 16, 2019, 01:10:55 AM »
One thing I will give the show credit for is that the terminology and explanation for the nuclear reactor in that episode where the robo-Eva goes on it’s walking spree was pretty accurate.

Much more accurate than most shows.

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« Reply #381 on: July 17, 2019, 10:28:20 AM »
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« Reply #382 on: July 17, 2019, 10:29:46 AM »
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Alright, I guess Asuka and Rei will just die then, oh well!  :yeshrug
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« Reply #383 on: July 17, 2019, 05:18:49 PM »
Shinji cucked his own dad with a clone of his mom.
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« Reply #384 on: July 17, 2019, 05:38:30 PM »
About half way through, and have kind of spiked it for myself and I had an epiphany... AT field, it’s going to stand for anti touch, isn’t it?

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« Reply #385 on: July 17, 2019, 05:39:54 PM »
it stands for anti terror field :hmph

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« Reply #388 on: July 17, 2019, 06:57:17 PM »
 :badass :expert :jgames

Whatever you weebs say.

FYI, I think we are missing at least one of the colis emotes.

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« Reply #389 on: July 17, 2019, 08:36:48 PM »
to be fair "touch" and "terror" are synonyms in the evangeliverse

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« Reply #390 on: July 17, 2019, 11:33:01 PM »
it stands for anti terror field :hmph

Absolute Terror.

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« Reply #394 on: July 18, 2019, 02:16:10 AM »
what is this 1.0+3.0 business Anno
whyyyyyyy

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« Reply #396 on: July 18, 2019, 03:00:25 AM »
what is this 1.0+3.0 business Anno
whyyyyyyy

Honestly I think Khara is just riling fans up for a laugh with those titles.

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« Reply #397 on: July 18, 2019, 03:55:30 AM »
it stands for anti terror field :hmph
Yes, at least, this is what you lilim call this thing. This is the light of my soul, a sacred territory in which no one may intrude. Aren't you lilim even aware that your A.T. Field is merely that wall that encloses every mind that exists?

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« Reply #398 on: July 18, 2019, 07:38:23 AM »
what is this 1.0+3.0 business Anno
whyyyyyyy

Just what you’d expect from the master
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« Reply #399 on: July 18, 2019, 08:19:14 AM »
what is this 1.0+3.0 business Anno
whyyyyyyy

Just what you’d expect from the master

I don't bloody know, fanwank something.
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« Reply #400 on: July 18, 2019, 05:07:20 PM »
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« Reply #401 on: July 19, 2019, 09:57:46 AM »
New teaser :lawd



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« Reply #402 on: July 19, 2019, 10:30:54 AM »
WE HAVE A RELEASE MONTH :rejoice

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« Reply #403 on: July 19, 2019, 10:43:25 AM »


Kaworu to Seele:

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« Reply #404 on: July 19, 2019, 01:01:53 PM »
I'm as so hyped to see all the people freaking out over how this ends.
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« Reply #405 on: July 19, 2019, 02:22:50 PM »
I'm as so hyped to see all the people freaking out over how this ends.
Twist: there is no "end".

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« Reply #406 on: July 19, 2019, 08:47:07 PM »

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« Reply #407 on: July 20, 2019, 02:01:33 AM »
Is this part 4 like the Winds of Winter of Anime?

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« Reply #408 on: July 21, 2019, 01:03:45 PM »
This show gets real as fuck around episode 20... haven’t gotten to the last two episodes yet though.

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« Reply #409 on: July 21, 2019, 01:27:08 PM »
Episode 22... Asuka is worst waifu.

Rei for housewife, mitsuko fun loving girlfriend

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« Reply #410 on: July 21, 2019, 03:32:11 PM »
Ok I finished it.

Episode 25 and 26 were low budget as shit....

I think the overall theme or message they basically really hit you over the head with it in the last 5 minutes, and in that sense it isn’t confusing.

I’m not sure I would have really understood what was going on with the human instrumentality project without wikis. The explanation was super minor in episode 23 or whatever. Like I don’t think I would have remembered or picked up on what they really meant.

I’m pretty sure that all of the stuff at the end is intended to show that shinji rejects instrumentality but then they kind of make it unclear in that final shot where they are all clapping for shinji.

Imo the school scene would have been a better ending. It would be more open to interpretation about whether he undid the instrumentality project, or whether the human instrumentality project allowed everyone to create a world where they could be happy.

But then that scene is only like half animated, and the rest looks like some wack marker drawings. 😂


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« Reply #411 on: July 21, 2019, 03:38:48 PM »
You're not done yet...
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« Reply #412 on: July 21, 2019, 03:39:49 PM »
The Human Instrumentality Project details aren't too important to be honest. It's basically a hyperbole cosmic counterpoint to finding your identity as an individual and accept it, more or less. Makes for good horror visuals too.

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« Reply #413 on: July 21, 2019, 04:02:05 PM »
The Human Instrumentality Project details aren't too important to be honest. It's basically a hyperbole cosmic counterpoint to finding your identity as an individual and accept it, more or less. Makes for good horror visuals too.

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I didn’t mean like it needed more technical details about how it works.

I just don’t think it was super  clear from the episodes what the basic idea was and not entirely clear that it was starting.

Episode 24 ends with Misato telling shinji he did the right thing, and the next two episodes are basically just human instrumentality project stuff. I can understand why people didn’t like it and thought it was confusing.

Granted, 20 years later with wikis and shit, it’s relatively easy to fill in the blanks. But watching it once every week I would have been confused as shit

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« Reply #414 on: July 21, 2019, 04:05:12 PM »
No argument here, it's pretty vague.
EoE does a better job at this.
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« Reply #415 on: July 21, 2019, 04:09:44 PM »
Yeah I will watch that later this week.

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« Reply #416 on: July 21, 2019, 04:10:38 PM »
Tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down...
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« Reply #417 on: July 21, 2019, 08:35:49 PM »
This show really does stick with you. Despite being kind of heavy fisted at parts and poorly executed at parts, it’s got really interesting themes.


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« Reply #418 on: July 21, 2019, 08:54:59 PM »
Just got through ep 15 on my new dub rewatch.  Still really enjoying the new performances.  It's hard to express how much of an improvement it is.  I never made it past ep 8 or so on the original dub back when VHS was a thing, and was so turned off by it, I never revisited it on DVD in full, but it's completely retained the subtlety of the original Japanese performance this go around.

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« Reply #419 on: July 21, 2019, 11:11:30 PM »
so i just watched the first two reboot movies for the first time and uhhhh what the fuck is the point of evangelion without the constant crushing depression?


it's impossible for me to judge it on it's own merits since it reuses/repurposes so many scenes from the show, and so it's really hard to watch the movies and come away with much besides "oh look, a new scene with the old characters." the potentially emotional moments felt unearned and uninteresting, and all the completely new stuff like the new character weren't explained and didn't add much.

sorry if this has been talked about to death, but yeah. the movies weren't boring or anything but they sure did feel a lot less interesting than the original show + movie.

anyways, i'll check out part 3 tomorrow and see if that still feels like more fanwank.