VISTA!!!!!

[The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment]

Drinky: That was a bad effort.

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[MrAngryFace]

Im a serious PC user, I NEED vista so bad and I love it. You are a bitter emo child, Diablos.

[BlueTsunami]

BT what is that "water" thing about?

Its just different points on the Ying Yang that you point too and it gives you different definitions for each Element. I just put it there cause I think it looks nice and the keeping it on an element gives the desktop a sense of personalization.

Drinky: That was a bad effort.

So when are the Vista police gonna bust down BT's door and kill everyone inside?

I think I'm good for the next 30 days though, trial mode ftw...shit will lock me out though...at the end

[Diablos]

Im a serious PC user, I NEED vista so bad and I love it. You are a bitter emo child, Diablos.

Yes, I'm so bitter because I didn't waste $300 on the latest version of Windows. That's even dumber than buying a PS3 at launch with no games. WOW SOLITAIRE WITH AERO.

[MrAngryFace]

WASTE?! ITS VISTA! UR DUMB!

[Christopher]

Playstation 3

[Vizzys]

I see no need to switch personally at the moment. Especially after reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/page4.html

Also I'm poor

[Diablos]

Viz, how ironic --
You're not paying for better game performance, you're paying for POTENTIAL!

[Van Cruncheon]

Tom's Hardware also benched the 8800 under an X1950XT, despite all OTHER evidence to the contrary

fuck, they've had a hate-on for MS since day one

[APF]

IE7 still has frustrating bugs (quirks?) that no one really cares about since the majority of people will still need to make their sites work in it anyway.  I question its ultimate security over Firefox however, which is a major issue.  Firefox is no champ though, its memory leaking and the random buggyness (in the actual app, ie outside of the rendering engine) many folks experience is a real and valid concern as well.  Basically, there is no good browser (Opera blows in its own ways, so don't give me that), especially for the Mac.

[aoi tsuki]

Desktop objects/widgets have always been kinda useless for me. i'm using Konfabulator (okay, Yahoo! Widget Engine) in XP now, and aside from a widget that locates the cheapest gas in town, a couple of eBay widgets, and maybe a weather widget, the other widgets are either superfluous or just handled with other apps, namely Firefox. i really don't care to make my desktop a piece of art because it's either a)covered in windows or b)hidden because my monitor blanks and eventually cuts off after an hour of disuse. No one is around to see my painting of Marilyn Monroe pleasuring herself as wildlife watches anyways, so fuck it.

Oh, and IE had extensions years before Firefox was even a twinkle in a developer's eye. They're called add-ins. i forgot all about those until i read some anti-Firefoxisawsome article.

Now if this Vista torrent would just hurry up...

[Diablos]

APF: If it's one thing I'll admit about Firefox, it's that the memory leaking problems need to be addressed, and soon. I did some tweaking in about:config though and it usually doesn't hog much memory now, but it can still get out of hand. Joe User doesn't like to do tweaking, though. Firefox devs need to understand this.

[Van Cruncheon]

don't pirate! MS is watching!

[BlueTsunami]

IE7 feels way more solid in its native environment wink winkkkkkk

Its as if it melds into the OS so fantastically. Hasn't been giving me issues at all...though I want an option to copy Object adresses from the right click menu . Instead of Right Click> Properties> Copy the URL

[APF]

APF: If it's one thing I'll admit about Firefox, it's that the memory leaking problems need to be addressed, and soon. I did some tweaking in about:config though and it usually doesn't hog much memory now, but it can still get out of hand. Joe User doesn't like to do tweaking, though. Firefox devs need to understand this.

You don't even want to know the amount of tabs I have open right now.  Tabs are my life.

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Gotta keep track of all the plate-spinning I'm doing in political threads 

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[xnikki118x]

Windows XP pro is good enough for me until I get a new PC in a few years or whatever. No Vista here.

[drozmight]

Someone buy me a copy.

Viz had promised to buy me Ultimate, but he is backing out of the deal. Even after I held my end of the bargain.

[Vizzys]

What are you talking about. What bargain?

[Wobedraggled]

Ubuntu/Beryl = better stable eye candy for free.

Vista is a bloated mess, with a nice coat of paint, under the hood it's a 76 toronado.

[MrAngryFace]

lol Ubuntu. Dont be simple.

[Wobedraggled]

lol Ubuntu. Dont be simple.

If I was simple I'd still be using windows as a primary OS.

[MrAngryFace]

Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

[Wobedraggled]

Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

And you base this awesome statement on what exactly?

[T-Short]

Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

And you base this awesome statement on what exactly?

they don't charge money for it. huahua

[Tauntaun]

Here it is with the Stats being shown...

Dude, u need to work on your skills.  As for Vista I'm definitely waiting for a SP to come out.  XP is fine for me until I upgrade to my next comp, which will be a ways down the road cause I'm a dirty poor right now.  Never trust Microsoft on first release!

[MrAngryFace]

Vista is getting great reviews, but almost every great review is recommending people wait for their next PC upgrade. Of course they are speaking to the demographic that purchases the factory made PCs. My PC is built from various parts and fairly powerful, so that recommendation isnt really targeted at me. I BELIEVE MS plans to support and release copies of Windows XP w/SP2 for at least another year, so they are aware a lot of people wont jump on board RIGHT away due in part to the relatively steep hardware requirements.

[Tauntaun]

I just want Vista and a DX10 card so when Supreme commander comes out I can jizzle my nizzles at it's pure awesomeness.

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Jizzle my nizzle translation for whitey: That means blow a load in my pants.

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[APF]

Hmm...  "Nizzle" means "pants."  *scribbles in notebook*

[BlueTsunami]

MAF? You try the Speech Recognition yet?

Its so fucken awesome

[Tauntaun]

Hmm...  "Nizzle" means "pants."  *scribbles in notebook*

You get an A+ 

[Himu]

I'm interested in Vista, since I love Windows, and I'm fine with Windows but I haven't kept up with Vista or it's features. People complained about XP all the time and I had no problems with it. I had ME and it froze on me like every minute, but XP was fast and perfection.

[Himu]

Reading this thread I'm LOVING the additions they've made to the presentation. As someone who is absolutely ocd about managing the start menu and task bar and shit this seems like heaven.

[BlueTsunami]

Gadgets are like little angels on my desktop. They make me happy

I have a Wiki, Ditionary, Translator and Remote Desktop Gadget at the moment

[Strife Doombringer]

ULTIMATE ULTIMATE ULTIMATE GETTING MINE TODAY IT FUCKING ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO BUY IT RIGHT NOW>>BUY BUY BUY
DX10

[aoi tsuki]

Gadgets are like little angels on my desktop. They make me happy

I have a Wiki, Ditionary, Translator and Remote Desktop Gadget at the moment

i take it you never messed with widgets?

Ubuntu is for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

lol Linux distinguished mentally-challenged fellows maybe. Ironically, an Ubuntu live CD has been the most stable way for me to use my computer as my XP install is hosed. Now if you'll excuse me, i've got to get Vista. Built in torrent handling via the official BT client is pretty snazzy.

[BlueTsunami]

Gadgets are like little angels on my desktop. They make me happy

I have a Wiki, Dictionary, Translator and Remote Desktop Gadget at the moment

i take it you never messed with widgets?.

Oh I have. I actually used an eMac for a while but the performance on it was ass and couldn't take it anymore (thats when I built out the PC I have now). I loved using OSX and the widgets...I actually would love if Vista used the mouse gesture that allows you to move to the upper right of the desktop and brings your widgets to the front (like in OSX).

[TVC15]

Speedwise, Vista is MURDERING XP for me.  Then again, I have 4 cores spread across 2 sockets, and coding for that sort of scenario has come a long way since XP began development.

[G The Resurrected]

I need someone that has a shit pc (single core, 512mb ram, 5400rpm hdd or similar) to tell me how Vista works with and without speedboost. I'm trying to save someone from spending 350 bucks on shit.

[TVC15]

I need someone that has a shit pc (single core, 512mb ram, 5400rpm hdd or similar) to tell me how Vista works with and without speedboost. I'm trying to save someone from spending 350 bucks on shit.

Tell the person to DL and try this.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/buyorupgrade/upgradeadvisor.mspx

[BlueTsunami]

I need someone that has a shit pc (single core, 512mb ram, 5400rpm hdd or similar) to tell me how Vista works with and without speedboost. I'm trying to save someone from spending 350 bucks on shit.

Specs

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CPU: 1.8GHz AMD64 Athlon 3000+ (Venice) (Single Core)
RAM: 1.5GB
HDD: 80GB for Vista
Video Card: XFX 6600GT 128Bit NVIDIA
Sound: Turtle Beach Montego DDL
3.7 is Moderate to Mid-High in accordance to how the scoring system is for this Performance Advisor. I would say the PC with the specs you posted about would be absolute baseline. Even then, you could turn off the Aero effect and go into classic UI mode and could get away with a lower end system.

[G The Resurrected]

Yeah already did that TVC it says they can run Vista and they keep going on about the security and how pretty it looks. But its really coming down to them thinking that with Readyboost it acts like psychical ram which to my understanding it doesn't equal. So they think they can use the 512mb of ram to share with in bedded graphics if they get 2gb flash drive.

Thank you blue thats exactly what i was looking for. Now to get them to buy a new pc instead.

[TVC15]

For the record, programs that HAVE to handle a large portion of their own memory management (like Photoshop) won't see any boost with Readyboost since they have to build their own sandbox on every launch anyway.  Well, I'm sure the next version will support it, since it's a much-hyped feature.

[MrAngryFace]

I have 4.0 cause my proc is only 2.0 ghz, but its 64 bit so f em alllll!

The basic argument even from the positive reviews that people should wait is based on the fact that Vista costs THE SAME as XP installs did on factory PCs, while alone ultimate costs a bit. Most factory pcs will not ship with ultimate, obviously. However it is a pretty sane argument. if youre gonna upgrade ANYWAY....

[G The Resurrected]

Yeah i was very interested in Readyboost myself but then i told my grandfather about it and since he installed that damn Windows program and it said he could run it he's been all gun hoe about getting vista. Especially cause of all the security thats built in unlike XP.

I hope as flash prices continue to drop that its used in the integral workings of the pc as sort of a third option for data. Especially for cache and other such things where it'd be faster and easier to right to that media than say HDD. At least i'm hoping that we'll see that divergence from normal hierarchy of ram and hdd usage. 

[TVC15]

Oh, I have a feeling we're very near to flash hard drives being available.  I think they have to break the 20 gig barrier before they could be marketed as useful, though.

[G The Resurrected]

Oh i know they are coming its just taking its sweet ass time. I really dont want to upgrade till my next laptop has flash drive technology in it. For the simple fact that it's easier on the battery and if all i do is web browse or do stuff in word. It shouldnt be using the hungry power eating HDD.

But your right we need a substantial amount of space. Enough for programs and the OS to be on. 20-40gb range sounds good enough to me. I just wont be happy till its readily used though. Its a small step in the future I hope.

[BlueTsunami]

Oh, I have a feeling we're very near to flash hard drives being available.  I think they have to break the 20 gig barrier before they could be marketed as useful, though.

From GAF...

Ritek's 16GB and 32GB SSDs starting at a low, low $169

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Well hot damn kids, Ritek just announced that their take on the Solid State Disk (SSD) will begin shipment this year. Impressive enough seeing as how only Samsung (and perhaps TDK) can pull this off currently. But what if we told you that they'll cost your friendly OEM a mere $169 to slip 16GB of that cool RiDATA flash into your swank new laptop? That's right, just $169 for a 1.8-inch 16GB SSD or $199 for the 2.5-inch version. They'll also offer 32GB SSDs at launch (64GB near the end of the year) which we can only assume will be less than twice the cost of the 16GB version when purchased in bulk. That's damn cheap, and likely far less than the $600 premium already quoted for the 1.8-inch 32GB SSD from SanDisk. When? Q2, that's when. Can you wait?

Oh yes, flash hard drives are starting to get cheaper and bigger. It only mean good things!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5293113&postcount=138

[TVC15]

Very nice.  What interface are these things using?

[Van Cruncheon]

I'm running Vista with Aero on a Sempron 3300+ laptop (1.9 GHz, 64-bit) with a Radeon X300 Mobile and 1 GB RAM. The performance score is 2.7 for Aero, and it runs smooth as hell.

[aoi tsuki]

Oh, I have a feeling we're very near to flash hard drives being available.  I think they have to break the 20 gig barrier before they could be marketed as useful, though.

From GAF...

Ritek's 16GB and 32GB SSDs starting at a low, low $169

(Image removed from quote.)

Well hot damn kids, Ritek just announced that their take on the Solid State Disk (SSD) will begin shipment this year. Impressive enough seeing as how only Samsung (and perhaps TDK) can pull this off currently. But what if we told you that they'll cost your friendly OEM a mere $169 to slip 16GB of that cool RiDATA flash into your swank new laptop? That's right, just $169 for a 1.8-inch 16GB SSD or $199 for the 2.5-inch version. They'll also offer 32GB SSDs at launch (64GB near the end of the year) which we can only assume will be less than twice the cost of the 16GB version when purchased in bulk. That's damn cheap, and likely far less than the $600 premium already quoted for the 1.8-inch 32GB SSD from SanDisk. When? Q2, that's when. Can you wait?

Oh yes, flash hard drives are starting to get cheaper and bigger. It only mean good things!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5293113&postcount=138

The problem with the Riteks is that they use a cheaper flash memory (no surprise). After a short number of writes (something like 10,000 IIRC), you've reached the lifetime duty cycle of the card. i've skimmed how ReadyBoost works, and i assume it reaches some happy medium between performance boosting and minimize writes to the flash drive. Those drives aren't meant to handle the types of writes that a virtual memory scheme would place on them.

But yeah, we're on our way to using flash for storage. Didn't Fujitsu or Panny release a laptop with a 32GB flash hard drive a while back?

[Van Cruncheon]

BUY BUY BUY THE ULTIMATE

[CajoleJuice]

Some kid in my programming class today was complaining about something...I wasn't really listening...but I did hear it was because he had a Mac.

The teacher just said, "Too bad, not my problem."

I then said, "Buy Vista!"

Drinky has brainwashed me. 

[Himu]

 

[MrAngryFace]

I love MS' whole line of new crap. Office 2007 is fuck awesome, Vista was worth the wait, IE7 stomps Firefox into the dirt and loooooolz all the way home.

[Flannel Boy]

[drozmight]

IE7 can lick my balls.

It crashes when I try to watch anymore than two youtube videos at once.



Apparently, I can only explore the internet thusly.

[Mupepe]

IE7 can lick my balls.

It crashes when I try to watch anymore than two youtube videos at once.



Apparently, I can only explore the internet thusly.

I'm watching 4 youtube videos on IE7 out of spite :p

[drozmight]

IE7 can lick my balls.

It crashes when I try to watch anymore than two youtube videos at once.



Apparently, I can only explore the internet thusly.

I'm watching 4 youtube videos on IE7 out of spite :p

Your saying it's not IE7's fault? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[Tauntaun]

Firefox is awesome because the fox is like the 9-tails fox demon in Naruto.  Yeah, he's pretty awesome.  It's also got FIRE in the name and I like big explosions cause I like Return of the Jedi. 





I'll get Vista eventually but no $ plus Microsoft 1st release = no no.  I have IE7 but have gotten so used to FF that I'll prob never go back.

Edit: Grammar am me yay!

[Van Cruncheon]

I can open multiple youtube videos without a prob on IE7. How about you install better videocard drivers!