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« Reply #120 on: August 21, 2019, 11:17:37 PM »
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« Reply #121 on: August 21, 2019, 11:23:53 PM »
star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls  :yuck

The Matrix certainly has a better ratio of hits-v-misses.

What do you mean? The Matrix is a standalone movie, and Star Wars consists of three movies. I wonder why they stopped making Star Wars after 1983, but maybe it's for the best.
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« Reply #122 on: August 21, 2019, 11:35:32 PM »
original matrix is still a GOAT action movie :rejoice
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« Reply #123 on: August 22, 2019, 12:10:06 AM »
I'm not going to be surprised if WB feels pretty much the same about The Matrix.

I mean, if that's the case: Why did they drop the money on Shiny (TWICE!), do an MMO with Monolith, do an anime short-story collection, etc right after the first film (and the sequels were starting up). It feels like they wanted it to be huge but after the fan reception of the sequels, they kinda got cold feet (despite the Wachowski's leaving could possibly be a good thing: The Animatrix wasn't really overseen by them. They basically got these anime big-hit dudes and said "do what you think would fit, we'll approve it mostly", and that turned out pretty good).

I don't think doing a smaller less money-sink Matrix budget film would be that big of a risk, but we're also talking of an industry (that like gaming) is too risk-averse anymore to actually bother attempting to do original things like the Matrix.

(And before people say "hurr durr Matrix ripped off a ton of shit,":

https://twitter.com/GreatDismal/status/1164240403270270976

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« Reply #124 on: August 22, 2019, 12:25:31 AM »
star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls  :yuck

The Matrix certainly has a better ratio of hits-v-misses.
3/8 main star wars movies are good, 1/3 main matrix movies are good.

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« Reply #126 on: August 22, 2019, 01:57:22 AM »
star war sucks. keep trash in the trash thread pls  :yuck

The Matrix certainly has a better ratio of hits-v-misses.
3/8 main star wars movies are good, 1/3 main matrix movies are good.

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« Reply #127 on: August 22, 2019, 02:02:33 AM »
cant keep living in the matrix brehs  :trumps

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« Reply #128 on: August 22, 2019, 02:23:35 AM »
"main movies" lolz
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« Reply #129 on: August 22, 2019, 02:54:26 AM »
1/3 and 3/10 isnt that different  :batman

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« Reply #130 on: August 22, 2019, 04:17:59 AM »
IT'S A ALLEGORICAL YOU FUCK

Well yeah. I'm glad we agree.  ;) Allegories in general are not (or less) conductive to living, breathing fictional worlds that live on their own.

Not sarcasm by the way I wished I could have worded it so succinctly.
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« Reply #131 on: August 22, 2019, 06:57:03 AM »
1/3 and 3/10 isnt that different  :batman

It will be going forward.
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« Reply #132 on: August 22, 2019, 07:02:06 AM »
1/3 and 3/10 isnt that different  :batman

It will be going forward.
I expect both franchises to be shit though :rejoice

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« Reply #133 on: August 22, 2019, 07:18:52 AM »
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« Reply #135 on: August 22, 2019, 11:18:54 AM »
It's harder to prove that we aren't in a simulation now than it has ever been before.

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« Reply #136 on: August 22, 2019, 12:02:47 PM »
It's harder to prove that we aren't in a simulation now than it has ever been before.

Particle and quantum shit blows my mind.
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« Reply #137 on: August 22, 2019, 06:24:48 PM »
I just realized that they could get Will Smith to be in this as a cameo. :thinking

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« Reply #138 on: August 22, 2019, 06:55:03 PM »
It's harder to prove that we aren't in a simulation now than it has ever been before.

Particle and quantum shit blows my mind.
I'm reading a Hawking book and him just casually throwing a 'simple' formula out there about how black holes and singularity work is  :lawd
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« Reply #139 on: August 23, 2019, 12:57:08 AM »
I just realized that they could get Will Smith to be in this as a cameo. :thinking
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« Reply #140 on: August 23, 2019, 01:14:28 AM »
matrix online reboot when
put the old one up on Steam as F2P, sell people skins for $200 :jeb

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« Reply #141 on: August 23, 2019, 01:17:38 AM »
Can I buy Trinity's skin?  :rash :cody

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« Reply #142 on: August 23, 2019, 09:47:28 AM »
MxO almost definitely still has private servers.
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« Reply #143 on: August 23, 2019, 09:50:00 AM »
MxO almost definitely still has private servers.

What if we're in a Matrix Online server right now?? duuuude...
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« Reply #144 on: August 23, 2019, 09:53:32 AM »
MxO almost definitely still has private servers.

What if we're in a Matrix Online server right now?? duuuude...

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« Reply #145 on: August 23, 2019, 10:10:22 AM »
MxO almost definitely still has private servers.

What if we're in a Matrix Online server right now?? duuuude...

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« Reply #146 on: August 23, 2019, 10:28:13 AM »
Different apocalyptic scifi, but...

https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-will-likely-create-skynet-says-study/

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For Microsoft, the US military is likely to be a key growth sector.

While it may not have been awarded yet, Microsoft is likely to win the $10 billion Department of Defense JEDI contract.

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« Reply #147 on: August 23, 2019, 10:34:02 AM »
the US military should be banned from naming things after sci-fi

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« Reply #148 on: August 23, 2019, 11:01:21 AM »
the US military should be banned from naming things after sci-fi

I only support Disney-based naming conventions, like Operation Dumbo Drop.
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« Reply #149 on: August 23, 2019, 11:17:27 AM »
the US military should be banned from naming things after sci-fi

I only support Disney-based naming conventions, like Operation Dumbo Drop.

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« Reply #150 on: August 23, 2019, 12:44:23 PM »
Now I'm conflicted.
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« Reply #151 on: August 24, 2019, 11:51:02 AM »

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Keanu Reeves on The Matrix 4, via BBC's The One Show
« Reply #152 on: November 29, 2020, 05:48:49 PM »


"A beautiful script that is a love story, it’s inspiring."



"Things looked a little dire for Neo..."



"It’s another version of a kind of call to wake
up and it has some great action. All will be revealed."



"No, no. No going in the past."

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« Reply #153 on: November 29, 2020, 05:53:12 PM »

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« Reply #154 on: November 29, 2020, 06:04:22 PM »








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« Reply #155 on: November 29, 2020, 06:28:22 PM »
why was this bumped
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« Reply #156 on: November 29, 2020, 06:29:45 PM »
matrix rules  8)
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« Reply #158 on: November 29, 2020, 07:32:06 PM »
Going forward, I will be rubricating direct quotes from Neo/Thomas Anderson in red letter.




"What do you want?"



"Peace."
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« Reply #159 on: November 29, 2020, 07:43:50 PM »
I was just rewatching Reloaded tonight and man, I really hope Don Davis comes back.

Bill Pope not being DP is bummer enough, I don't have anything against John Toll, I loved Cloud Atlas. But the music is so key.



"You have the sight now, Neo. You are looking at the world without time."

The subdued, melancholy Matrix fanfare right before and during these lines gives me chills as much as any of the cool action moments (also massively enhanced by Davis' score.)

It's possible I'll be either fully surprised (Davis comes back) or mildly surprised (they get a new guy who is pretty good at capturing the old flair), but nothing would say "The Matrix is back" more than "Don Davis is back." Guess we'll see.
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« Reply #160 on: November 29, 2020, 08:02:36 PM »
tasy is back  ;)  bareback  :drool
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« Reply #161 on: November 29, 2020, 08:06:19 PM »
tasy is back  ;)  bareback  :drool

Jack in, baby :lawd
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« Reply #162 on: November 30, 2020, 09:36:15 AM »
Matrix 4 script leak

Morpheus: "Neo, the SJWs are taking over the Matrix. Take this red pill!"

Neo: "One step ahead of you, I'm already playing Cyberpunk 2077!"
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« Reply #163 on: November 30, 2020, 10:04:24 AM »
Will wait for eras review on whether I can see this or not depending on it's inclusivity.
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« Reply #164 on: November 30, 2020, 03:22:22 PM »
Morpheus: "Neo, did you find the Elephant?"

Neo: "No, but Smith's there I can feel it... but a different version of Smith.... the elephant wherever he is, he's close. Could be in a motorcade or a plane."

Smith: "I'm sorry, I can't let you enter this arena, I won't. I will have you and your ilk removed. Your stench erased."

Neo: "Smith... I defeated you once, I can do it again. Let me in and you can keep your new job!"

Smith: "Mister Anderson, so you wish to join us. Why don't you wear this red hat. Make a few laughs. Enjoy the show. Join all these forgotten men and women it is inevitable. Or wear the blue hat. The hat of losers. The hat that doesn't fit well. The hat that smells. The choice is yours"

Neo: "Okay, I will wear your stupid hat if you let me in"

Morpheus: "Link, what's that hat?"

Link: "I don't know sir, I've never seen a trojan as powerful and well hidden as this before"

Neo: "Woah.....I ... I want to... .make Mega City great again"

Smith: "In that case Mr. Anderson, you will love infrastructure week. The elephant should be here soon."

Link: "Neo is under some kind of spell sir!"

Trinity: "Is it the Merovingian?"

Link: "He published it but I think it was written by the Drussians sir"

Morpheus: "The Drussians? The Secret hacker cult? Once they hack Zion and release our communications it's all over!"
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« Reply #166 on: November 30, 2020, 09:20:46 PM »
We do this for every Wachowski discussion but

The Matrix: Perfect
Reloaded: Great
Revolutions: Bad
Speed Racer: Good
Cloud Atlas: Great

And I haven't seen it but for the sake of capitulation to Wachowski haters, for the purposes of discussion we can count it as "bad." (And on that note, we can also probably count their debut "Bound" as good, as I haven't seen that either.)

They have a better record percentage wise than Spielberg. :idont

Bound is good. Maybe dated now, but it was fab at the time.
And I’m on-board with your ratings.

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« Reply #167 on: November 30, 2020, 09:23:00 PM »
Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
A friend of mine proposed that the optimal Matrix sequel would be Neo as the bad guy. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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« Reply #168 on: November 30, 2020, 09:51:07 PM »
Keanu as an unrepentant asshole badguy... Would be preeeeeetty unexpected and different.
A friend of mine proposed that the optimal Matrix sequel would be Neo as the bad guy. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I still hope they go that way, but I've also been thinking of alternatives. Especially with some of the few details Keanu just gave, I have some ideas...

Things we can assume for sure:

- It's a sequel and takes place in-universe after the end of Revolutions.
- Neo, the character, is alive again.
- I'm less sure about Trinity, I thought it may be possible she was a Merovingian construct or something, but with the focus on it being a "love story," it seems more likely that they're reuniting Neo and Trinity for real, the concept of permadeath be damned. There is one alternative to Neo/Trinity being the main love focus, which I'll get to in a second...
- Laurence Fishburne has not been cast, so we can also assume that at the very least "present" Morpheus will not be returning.

What's less likely is whether it will reference or acknowledge the "lesser-tier canon" stuff, primarily The Animatrix and The Matrix Online. The Matrix Online is particularly important, since that was supposed to occupy the same "canon" space that the Buffy Season 8/9/etc. comics did for that franchise.

It was also the game that killed the shit out of Morpheus.



Now, if The Matrix 4 is building on The Matrix Online and treating it as canon, then Laurence Fishburne not even being asked to come back makes sense. And that's a huge bummer for Morpheus fans. But all may not be lost.



Say hello... to Morpheus' son.

One thing to note is that the franchise has already done the "new black character related to the died-offscreen character from the previous film" with the Tank/Dozer -> Link transition.

We know Niobe is back.

Following back up on my notes about the Neo/Trinity romance not necessarily being center stage, I think it may be that a lost-his-way Morpheus Jr. takes the starring role, with Neo and Trinity possibly being more secondary/mentor roles.

This is all speculation based on very few tidbits and scraps from casting, but hey that's all we have right now. :P

Regarding The Animatrix/The Matrix Online, I accept that it's also just as likely Lana forgets all that shit and directly contradicts all of it six-ways-to-Sunday in the effort of telling what she thinks is a stronger story. We'll probably need to wait until the trailer to even begin speculating for real.
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« Reply #169 on: November 30, 2020, 09:54:24 PM »
One more thought, regarding Neo's return:

Theoretically, his body could have been alive at the end of Revolutions, and The Matrix Online showed how pissed Morpheus was that the Machines never gave the body back -- implying they were doing something weird with it.

The Matrix Online basically ended with the dissolution of the Truce and the end of Neo's peace. Knowing this, if MxO is canon (like I said, a big if), I could see the Machine logic going:

"The other humans caused the end of the Truce. Therefore, Neo's sacrifice no longer applies. Therefore, we will revive him, because as Machines we honor our word (or some shit.)" Neo's body has been re-tubed and his consciousness went back to the Source when The Architect rebooted The Matrix at the end of Revolutions (with Sati's help.) The slap them back together again, and bam, you have age-appropriate Keanu as Neo.

Just some thoughts...
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« Reply #170 on: November 30, 2020, 09:57:34 PM »
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« Reply #171 on: November 30, 2020, 10:43:34 PM »
imagine clicking the right page  :lol
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« Reply #172 on: December 01, 2020, 12:14:04 AM »
Going off that image of neo riding bitch with trinity that leaked a lifetime ago I think we're gonna get something weird like Neo's consciousness is still alive in the matrix, but maybe asleep. I think we're gonna get a Matrix 1 again in a sense that it's gonna be trinity saving him again (maybe releasing him?) Also the matrix itself and the rules we know it runs by are gonna be different.

Basically what I'm saying is I hope we're all wrong, and I think we are, but that's okay because it's going to be beautiful and I love it already.


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« Reply #173 on: December 03, 2020, 01:52:53 PM »


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« Reply #175 on: December 03, 2020, 02:44:03 PM »
They better hurry up with the European HBO Max release before the movie theaters are shuttered.
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« Reply #176 on: December 04, 2020, 08:51:21 AM »
They better hurry up with the European HBO Max release before the movie theaters are shuttered.

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« Reply #177 on: December 04, 2020, 09:14:39 AM »
Yall ever heard of torrents

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« Reply #178 on: December 04, 2020, 10:58:23 AM »
You don't even need to worry about torrents anymore with snahp :jeb

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Yall ever heard of torrents

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