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SmokyDave

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6660 on: December 18, 2019, 09:35:08 AM »
I can't bring myself to give the first shit about Star Wars, and now I feel like I'm missing too much context to enjoy any meltdowns. Can someone log in to FeistyBoots or SurrenderDorothy and stir up some non-SW drama for me? I haven't got any of the new passwords :(

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6661 on: December 18, 2019, 09:35:55 AM »
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So let me get this straight...

The Last Jedi 'haters' are nothing but a vocal minority who represent a tiny part of the audience for an otherwise massively-successful franchise.

But they're also a large enough part of the audience to fundamentally change the path of a film that's been in development for at least 2 years.

Huh

 :whatsthedeal

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-rise-of-skywalker-review-thread-the-sheev-saga-comes-to-a-close-no-spoilers-rottenwatch-60-tragedy-of-darth-abrams.160025/post-27512935
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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6662 on: December 18, 2019, 09:38:27 AM »
I can't bring myself to give the first shit about Star Wars, and now I feel like I'm missing too much context to enjoy any meltdowns. Can someone log in to FeistyBoots or SurrenderDorothy and stir up some non-SW drama for me? I haven't got any of the new passwords :(

I believe that Feisty was banned for anti-seminitism or something

SmokyDave

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« Reply #6663 on: December 18, 2019, 09:46:34 AM »
I believe that Feisty was banned for anti-seminitism or something
Oh, so Marrec can have the passwords, but I can't?

Charming.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6664 on: December 18, 2019, 09:46:43 AM »
Like 90% of era already downloaded a bootleg right?

Uncle

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6665 on: December 18, 2019, 09:46:58 AM »
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Propagandhim

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6666 on: December 18, 2019, 09:50:14 AM »
STAH WOAZ

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6667 on: December 18, 2019, 09:51:06 AM »
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As much as I find JJ untalented, (and I don’t blame Terrio too much cause I loved BvS), fandom is what ultimately killed Star Wars
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-rise-of-skywalker-review-thread-the-sheev-saga-comes-to-a-close-no-spoilers-rottenwatch-60-tragedy-of-darth-abrams.160025/post-27506996

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Anti-Monitor

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6668 on: December 18, 2019, 09:59:45 AM »
How is the fandom at all to blame?

They made a soft reboot, then they shat the bed, and now they are shitting it even further, how is anyone to blame but Disney?

Uncle

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« Reply #6669 on: December 18, 2019, 10:10:40 AM »
How is the fandom at all to blame?

They made a soft reboot, then they shat the bed, and now they are shitting it even further, how is anyone to blame but Disney?

they're trying to say it's because fans complained and disney listened to them so if the fans hadn't complained then disney would've gone their own route and made a great movie

and/or that JJ himself is a widely known fanboy and was on the same wavelength as the fanboys all along
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« Reply #6670 on: December 18, 2019, 10:16:45 AM »
I'm supposed to go see the new SW tonight but the weather is absolute crap, let's see if I can actually be arsed to go. My expectations are very low, I'm really going for the popcorn, but maybe it's not worth it to face whatever that shit is that is raining sideways outside. Maybe it's neckbeard tears.

See if you can get your ticket changed. Go see knives out (even if you've already seen it)

I only have a reservation, I haven't paid for the tickets yet so I won't lose any money if I don't go after all. I haven't seen Knives Out but it sounds like something I might like, I'll check it out sometime!

Boredfrom

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« Reply #6671 on: December 18, 2019, 10:18:49 AM »
I found kind of sad that some critics genuinely believe Rise of the Retcon is capitulation to haters when is more  about Disney mismanagement of the franchise and The Last Jedi being a mess. Maybe, there is a possibility, that the Last Jedi didn’t do so hot to Disney to follow its plot threads and JJ Abrams is a hack to be able to do anything about it.

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« Reply #6672 on: December 18, 2019, 10:24:38 AM »
TFA is Matrix Reloaded, ROS is Matrix Revolutions, TLJ is that Matrix videogame where the Wachowski’s appear on screen and tell you that the ending to movies sucked, and make you fight a giant Mecha Agent Smith instead.
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Uncle

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« Reply #6673 on: December 18, 2019, 10:29:19 AM »
It's pretty sad and pathetic that Crossing Eden and the other weirdos are saying that it scored well because this may be the "anti-TLJ"

Other people are saying that the 'fandom' (of which everyone who watches these movies is included) is trash because they said that TFA was "too safe" and that TLJ was "too bold". It's this type of 14 IQ interpretation powerplay that gets people to believe in horseshoe theory.

I love that there are so many routes you can take this

TLJ lovers hate TROS because it's a betrayal of what was set up in TLJ

TLJ haters hate TROS because it's the ultimate wet fart betrayal of everything the whole series was building towards

but TLJ lovers love TROS because how bad it's reviewing is a vindication that TLJ was the greatest thing ever filmed and proves they were right

but TLJ haters also love TROS because it demonstrates disney's fundamental mismanagement and that TLJ put the series in such a bad place that this was the inevitable result
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« Reply #6674 on: December 18, 2019, 10:30:40 AM »
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ERA signal boosting is what caused the minority of people who disliked The Last Jedi to force JJ's hand into making this movie bad. :lol

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« Reply #6675 on: December 18, 2019, 10:39:30 AM »
Imagine stanning for the company that destroyed Star Wars
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Momo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6676 on: December 18, 2019, 10:42:06 AM »
How is the fandom at all to blame?

They made a soft reboot, then they shat the bed, and now they are shitting it even further, how is anyone to blame but Disney?
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« Reply #6677 on: December 18, 2019, 10:43:47 AM »
Wait a minute, hating TLJ destroyed this trilogy and ruined Star Wars? That's going on my resume for sure

Boredfrom

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« Reply #6678 on: December 18, 2019, 10:45:04 AM »
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The Last Jedi stans have promoted themselves to treating Rian Johnson as a god unworthy of our presence.

But RE said to me that Rian Johnson was going to get his trilogy and there were not behind scenes drama with him and Disney.

SmokyDave

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6679 on: December 18, 2019, 10:50:16 AM »
Star Wars review thread: 2500 posts in a matter of hours, fresh off the 3000+ post social media impressions thread.

Tulsa Race Riots Illustrated thread: 30 posts in more than 24 hours.

…huh.

nudemacusers

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« Reply #6680 on: December 18, 2019, 10:56:18 AM »
Here to feast
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Uncle

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« Reply #6681 on: December 18, 2019, 10:58:28 AM »
Meanwhile on the bore the 2 most popular topics:

- The star wars thread
- This thread where people are babbling about.. star wars

Also note: almost nobody involved has actually seen the movie..

You are all fucking weird.

what would you like to talk about riotus
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nudemacusers

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« Reply #6682 on: December 18, 2019, 10:59:11 AM »
Meanwhile on the bore the 2 most popular topics:

- The star wars thread
- This thread where people are babbling about.. star wars

Also note: almost nobody involved has actually seen the movie..

You are all fucking weird.
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nachobro

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« Reply #6683 on: December 18, 2019, 10:59:34 AM »
:rejoice

nudemacusers

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« Reply #6684 on: December 18, 2019, 11:05:01 AM »
Man of steel is a better movie 👀
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demi

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« Reply #6685 on: December 18, 2019, 11:05:39 AM »
is there [actual legit] spoilers for new star wars so i don't have to go out in public?
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Boredfrom

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6686 on: December 18, 2019, 11:07:45 AM »
is there [actual legit] spoilers for new star wars so i don't have to go out in public?

Yes, RE has a thread about it since months ago.

Momo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6687 on: December 18, 2019, 11:08:14 AM »
is there [actual legit] spoilers for new star wars so i don't have to go out in public?
star wars spoiler subreddit has the entire plot

Straight Edge

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6688 on: December 18, 2019, 11:09:08 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/apparently-im-going-insane-because-im-not-finding-any-impeachment-eve-threads-anywhere-lets-get-started.159977/

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Does impeachment mean he can't run for a second term at the very least?


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At least this means he won't be able to run for a second term (I think).


Lol oh man
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Momo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6689 on: December 18, 2019, 11:10:28 AM »
Meanwhile on the bore the 2 most popular topics:

- The star wars thread
- This thread where people are babbling about.. star wars

Also note: almost nobody involved has actually seen the movie..

You are all fucking weird.
I don't need to have 15 unjammed donuts forced up my ass to know I won't like it. Dunno where people come from with the idea you need to experience something to have an idea about how you would feel about it.

NekoFever

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« Reply #6690 on: December 18, 2019, 11:10:57 AM »
is there [actual legit] spoilers for new star wars so i don't have to go out in public?

You can basically watch the ending on /r/StarWarsLeaks right now.

Momo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6691 on: December 18, 2019, 11:11:34 AM »
Jam donuts however :noah

Uncle

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« Reply #6692 on: December 18, 2019, 11:12:14 AM »
is there [actual legit] spoilers for new star wars so i don't have to go out in public?

this doc was last edited 2 weeks ago but is pretty much accurate, the whole thing has been spoiled for months now and it's just been dithering over some of the editing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k-gO17Y1ENyq2aahYqDAFgeMrqP95qaNhIaLtiFLDAE/edit
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demi

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6693 on: December 18, 2019, 11:14:39 AM »
is there [actual legit] spoilers for new star wars so i don't have to go out in public?

You can basically watch the ending on /r/StarWarsLeaks right now.

thanks i saw the cringe lines between rey and palpatine and saved myself a click. at least we still have kyle katarn.
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6694 on: December 18, 2019, 11:14:45 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/apparently-im-going-insane-because-im-not-finding-any-impeachment-eve-threads-anywhere-lets-get-started.159977/

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Does impeachment mean he can't run for a second term at the very least?


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At least this means he won't be able to run for a second term (I think).


Lol oh man


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Why is the house voting again?, I thought they already did that.

:teehee

Momo

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« Reply #6695 on: December 18, 2019, 11:15:45 AM »
Is Kyle Katarn even canon.

thisismyusername

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« Reply #6696 on: December 18, 2019, 11:16:35 AM »
Time to save star wars by letting bioware make kotor3 8)

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...But KotOR3 already came out. :confused

It's called: "Star Wars: The Old Republic."

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Momo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6697 on: December 18, 2019, 11:19:50 AM »
Reported

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« Reply #6698 on: December 18, 2019, 11:21:25 AM »
Last Jedi was an actually good movie, not just Star Wars good. Right behind Empire Strikes Back. The fact Rise of Skywalker retcons lots of shit to appease though who didn’t like TLJ (and many critics have said it does retcon lots) is very annoying.

There will be more Disney SW movies but they need to let the mainline movies sit awhile. And get one director for the whole trilogy so it doesn’t end up looking like a fight between two directors and Disney again.

Rian Johnson wins in the end, basically similar to the final scene/shot of Knives Out.

demi

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« Reply #6699 on: December 18, 2019, 11:23:15 AM »
Is Kyle Katarn even canon.

yes. it's all canon. all of it. even mara jade.

also republic commando > the mandalorian
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Momo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6700 on: December 18, 2019, 11:26:54 AM »
So these fucks removed everything from canon so they can slowly re-add it and charge saps to pay for recycled stories? Thanks Disney!

Straight Edge

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6701 on: December 18, 2019, 11:29:58 AM »
Prince Xizor used his reptile pheromones to get Leia all horny.
Oi Oi

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6702 on: December 18, 2019, 11:31:42 AM »
So these fucks removed everything from canon so they can slowly re-add it and charge saps to pay for recycled stories? Thanks Disney!

They probably did because they didn’t want to have any legal problems with the creators that work on the EU. The smart thing to do would have been doing what comics films do and rewrite story arcs, characters or events to be appealing to mainstream audiences rather than shit on everything and then using it anyway.

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« Reply #6703 on: December 18, 2019, 11:44:37 AM »
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Is calling for Kennedy to be fired still misogynistic after this disaster of a movie

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How is she responsible for the movie being bad?

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« Reply #6704 on: December 18, 2019, 12:00:06 PM »
BDS isn’t really wrong though. Lucasfilm/Disney was more than happy with TLJ. Instead of continuing on from the ending of the second movie of the trilogy, Skywalker immediately goes about retconning majority of TLJ, because those in charge panicked. Maybe a version that continues on from the ending of TLJ still turns out like this, but at least it wouldn’t be Retcon: The Movie.

/carepost

Also, Cheebo is nowhere to be seen and saw someone in the ERA leaks thread say Cheebs was going to Hawaii for two weeks. One hell of a coincidence if true  :lol

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« Reply #6705 on: December 18, 2019, 12:01:57 PM »
Where the fuck do they go from TLJ? lol

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« Reply #6706 on: December 18, 2019, 12:05:21 PM »
:nerds
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« Reply #6707 on: December 18, 2019, 12:13:58 PM »
 :neogaf
https://twitter.com/innercitypress/status/1207344336339374084?s=19

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6708 on: December 18, 2019, 12:14:54 PM »
Meanwhile on the bore the 2 most popular topics:

- The star wars thread
- This thread where people are babbling about.. star wars

Also note: almost nobody involved has actually seen the movie..

You are all fucking weird.
I have no special fondness for the series and am not going to watch any of the movies, but after seeing some of the spoilers... Boy... This is going to be one juicy disaster. 

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #6709 on: December 18, 2019, 12:26:50 PM »
Meanwhile on the bore the 2 most popular topics:

- The star wars thread
- This thread where people are babbling about.. star wars

Also note: almost nobody involved has actually seen the movie..

You are all fucking weird.
I have no special fondness for the series and am not going to watch any of the movies, but after seeing some of the spoilers... Boy... This is going to be one juicy disaster. 

link

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Boredfrom

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« Reply #6710 on: December 18, 2019, 12:29:41 PM »
BDS isn’t really wrong though. Lucasfilm/Disney was more than happy with TLJ. Instead of continuing on from the ending of the second movie of the trilogy, Skywalker immediately goes about retconning majority of TLJ, because those in charge panicked. Maybe a version that continues on from the ending of TLJ still turns out like this, but at least it wouldn’t be Retcon: The Movie.

/carepost

Also, Cheebo is nowhere to be seen and saw someone in the ERA leaks thread say Cheebs was going to Hawaii for two weeks. One hell of a coincidence if true  :lol

They were probably happy until Solo bombed and toy sales didn’t got better. The fact that The Mandalorian and Fallen Order are going to become better received than this film, fan wise, is probably a sign that the First Order failed.

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« Reply #6711 on: December 18, 2019, 12:32:44 PM »
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. She will resign next year. I think she's alway intended that. I bet she glad to see the back of this shitty fandom. 

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Yep more than likely. Her contract ends in 2021 after she signed an extension last year. Once she gets within a year of that ending she will probably focus on assisting whoever is chosen to take over for her.

But everyone will read that in the most negative way possible and cheer that she's leaving.

Holy shit, is Kathleen Kennedy their mom or what? Why they can’t admit she did a bad job managing the franchise. Not everybody can be Kevin Feige, but come the fuck now...

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« Reply #6712 on: December 18, 2019, 12:47:07 PM »
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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6713 on: December 18, 2019, 12:50:53 PM »

Uncle

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« Reply #6714 on: December 18, 2019, 12:56:21 PM »
Is Kyle Katarn even canon.

yes. it's all canon. all of it. even mara jade.

also republic commando > the mandalorian

masters of teras kasi > the last jedi
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« Reply #6715 on: December 18, 2019, 12:58:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/innercitypress/status/1207355627456073729

2 Years

"He's gonna walk"
 :dead

if time served is included, he's got 11 more months. that's damn near walking compared to the 47 years minimum he was going to get

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« Reply #6716 on: December 18, 2019, 01:02:10 PM »
I don't understand why people are sliming this guy for 'snitching'.  Do they want murderers just walking around free?  Bizarre.

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« Reply #6717 on: December 18, 2019, 01:02:46 PM »
Fuck you Disney, you greenlight this but not the third Tron film.  :sheik :bolo

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6718 on: December 18, 2019, 01:05:56 PM »
But I see you all the same. I know that if Cenk said something anti-LGBT, and to be clear, I'm not saying he did, but if he did, I know you'd all try the sane ducking same, Bo matter how you deny it.

mods can you construct a Gui Interface using Visual Basic to track vomkrieges IP, because I'm pretty sure he's account sharing with slayven

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Re: DOJ |OT| SUMMIT NOW SUMMIT NOW
« Reply #6719 on: December 18, 2019, 01:08:28 PM »
BDS isn’t really wrong though. Lucasfilm/Disney was more than happy with TLJ. Instead of continuing on from the ending of the second movie of the trilogy, Skywalker immediately goes about retconning majority of TLJ, because those in charge panicked. Maybe a version that continues on from the ending of TLJ still turns out like this, but at least it wouldn’t be Retcon: The Movie.

/carepost

Also, Cheebo is nowhere to be seen and saw someone in the ERA leaks thread say Cheebs was going to Hawaii for two weeks. One hell of a coincidence if true  :lol

They were probably happy until Solo bombed and toy sales didn’t got better. The fact that The Mandalorian and Fallen Order are going to become better received than this film, fan wise, is probably a sign that the First Order failed.

ding-ding-ding.

TLJ painted the franchise into a corner and didn't introduce anyone or anything kids would want toys of.

Which is why they gave it back to JJ and we've got fucking jetpack stormtroopers that launch from transforming speederbikes, and sith troopers and shit now

fuck, I'm surprised we don't have lightsaber wolverine claws at this point