Corona Thread |OT| Please scream inside your heart

[Madrun Badrun]

I'd give you a like, Vom, but I'm not sure if I'm going to need it or not in a month, so I'm just going to save it for now. 

[Mandark]

I'd give you a like, Vom, but I'm not sure if I'm going to need it or not in a month, so I'm just going to save it for now.

Like-uidity trap.

[Madrun Badrun]

OK that was good.  Here have Vom's like. 

So first they said boris was in the hospital as a precaution.... when there is nothing to be done in a hospital for corona besides getting hooked up to the vent, and now he's in the ICU as a precaution. One does have to wonder what exactly he is doing in there, as a precaution.

Ya if he's in the icu there is something concerning.  I wonder if they had to make a third completely sperate area in the hospital just for him since he's a vip.  TBH hope he gets better, he's not one of the people I want to die. 

[VomKriege]

French Minister of Health promised a "massive test campaign" for at risk demographics. Good. I'll believe it when they'll start proper.

[Stro]

So first they said boris was in the hospital as a precaution.... when there is nothing to be done in a hospital for corona besides getting hooked up to the vent, and now he's in the ICU as a precaution. One does have to wonder what exactly he is doing in there, as a precaution.

He's dying bro

[Madrun Badrun]

James made the wrong bet. 

[TEEEPO]

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1212679425629859840

[thisismyusername]

BOJO is in intensive care now...

Bojo about to break out Star NHS and come back.
ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ

[Stro]

So first they said boris was in the hospital as a precaution.... when there is nothing to be done in a hospital for corona besides getting hooked up to the vent, and now he's in the ICU as a precaution. One does have to wonder what exactly he is doing in there, as a precaution.

He's dying bro

As a precaution?

Indubitably

[who is ted danson?]

Fuck, Dominic Raab filling in for BoJo. Last guy you want making decisions in a situation like his. Dude is gonna euthanize poor Bozza.

https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1109110453073047553

[Madrun Badrun]

Also if it's a precaution, it seems strange that they waited until night time to do it.

[shosta]

Didn't they reopened me vie theaters before closing them in short order ? Don't take my word on that, but I think I saw that bit of news... And the lockdown in Wuhan has barely ended / is still transitioning out, right ? Maybe they're being extra cautious and doing their due diligence...

The lockdown in Hubei ended on the 24th. The lockdown in Wuhan is scheduled to be lifted on the 8th. My issue with the tinfoil stuff is twofold:

1. Either they have it under control or they don't. If they didn't, clearly they would not be back on the path to normalcy. In the province's case they lifted it in the fourth week of March which means that they believed they had almost completely controlled new cases by the first week of March - otherwise they would risk a new outbreak. That looks consistent with the data, as new cases peaks a month ago. So all the timing seems accurate.

2. If they are lying, by how much and why? You don't lie to keep your numbers down 10% or 25%. You lie to obfuscate an entire order of magnitude difference. But I already showed in this thread that the number of urns "evidence" people keep sharing is really consistent with expected deaths for that province + reported deaths in that province. Since the growth rate has been consistent this whole time, and we know that the order of magnitude is correct, are we saying that the government, from the beginning, has been systematically underreporting by some fixed constant? That in January they said "ok everybody, multiply your reported deaths by .75"? So that in the end their numbers are smaller by a statistically insignificant value? Why?

Of course we both know that that's not what people mean when they say "the numbers are not accurate". What they mean is "there's no way they have it under control, it can't be that small, there are a billion people there and it's super dense and the CCP are known liars, I don't trust them." It's just dumb and wrong.

And some people want to split the difference and say "oh, well, I don't trust the Chinese per se, so who knows? We may never find out." Like YOU, Vom. You're doing that! Stop it! It's not helpful and it's not actually the rational opinion.

[Tasty]

i don't want to suck china's dick too hard here but maybe you guys are just experiencing a lot of cognitive dissonance that a country of a billion poor ass rice farmers who allegedly eat bats was able to mobilize its resources and effectively contain/suppress the outbreak while the apex civilizations are still squabbling over distribution of masks and constitutional rights.

The benefits of totalitarianism are tempting, but must be rejected.

[BisMarckie]

I don’t trust shosty per se, so who knows? We may never find out.

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1247254690481549312


Yeesh.  Of those admitted to the ICU, those that fit Johnson's profile : 45.8% - 57.6% die. 

[Stro]

A nursing home in my city has 20 residents in isolation, 11 deaths, and a few staff members in isolation in the past 10 days.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1247243903855661061

[BisMarckie]

Boris is a buffoon, but man, nobody deserves to die this horrible death. 

[Mandark]

shosta, you brought up china's stats to compare them to south korea's (which are both rather low), so if there's some fudging of the numbers it doesn't have to be on a huge scale to be relevant to the point you were making

[Madrun Badrun]

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1247254690481549312


Yeesh.  Of those admitted to the ICU, those that fit Johnson's profile : 45.8% - 57.6% die. 

TBH I think most of those people would not have had doctors constantly monitoring them and probably wouldn't even have made it to a hospital bed before moving to the ICU, which will skew the stats towards dying. 

[Propagandhim]

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1247254690481549312


Yeesh.  Of those admitted to the ICU, those that fit Johnson's profile : 45.8% - 57.6% die. 

TBH I think most of those people would not have had doctors constantly monitoring them and probably wouldn't even have made it to a hospital bed before moving to the ICU, which will skew the stats towards dying.

Right.  Adding to the likely possibility that they put him in the ICU despite not being sick enough because of his political status.  Could be wrong, though.

[Madrun Badrun]

We will be at over a million active cases by tonight.  US is already over 1000 today.  Canada had another bad day, and going by cbc numbers, tomorrow will be bad too.   

[thisismyusername]

They're saying both the nature of the virus and long-distance public transportation across prefectures could be devastating to the country if they continue down this path.

Older rural population of Japan be like "do it, bring our kids back to us. "

[Madrun Badrun]

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1247254690481549312


Yeesh.  Of those admitted to the ICU, those that fit Johnson's profile : 45.8% - 57.6% die. 

TBH I think most of those people would not have had doctors constantly monitoring them and probably wouldn't even have made it to a hospital bed before moving to the ICU, which will skew the stats towards dying.

Right.  Adding to the likely possibility that they put him in the ICU despite not being sick enough because of his political status.  Could be wrong, though.

There is a big difference between not being sick enough and being privileged in a time when everyone is under-resourced.  I'm sure if he is in an icu, he would also be in an icu if no one else was sick. 

[VomKriege]

Oh wow you're right. You are sucking that ChiCom dick hard.

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My earnest opinion : China numbers are accurate until proven otherwise.


To be honest I don't care much for the constant comments everywhere about they're covering up the numbers, man ! Not just China, but Iran, Japan and every other country. It's not healthy skepticism most of the time IMHO.

Still, governments lie. Authoritarian regimes lie. Marxist Leninist Popular Democracies lie. Massive health crisis are minimised all the time, even if it's more incompetence than malice. And even with some sympathy for China, I certainly believe they have better control over the means to do so than liberal countries.

[close]

[Madrun Badrun]

It's strange that while everyone is getting Wuhan flu, Shosta gets Yellow fever. 

[OnlyRegret]

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1247254690481549312


Yeesh.  Of those admitted to the ICU, those that fit Johnson's profile : 45.8% - 57.6% die.

Things skew poorly for him since he has multiple negative factors (middle aged, male, obese).
Bear in mind the obese mortality is pulled up by men and down by women. As well as up by the 50+ demographic and down by the under 50s.

Therefore male+obese+older likely has a higher mortality rate than any one category.
I don't know much about his politics, but it was always good for a laugh to happen upon stuff 

[shosta]

shosta, you brought up china's stats to compare them to south korea's (which are both rather low), so if there's some fudging of the numbers it doesn't have to be on a huge scale to be relevant to the point you were making

I also said that I wasn't going to extrapolate too much from that comparison - just pointing out that it wasn't clear South Korea's strategy was preferable to China's. I'm not saying China's is preferable or provably lower either.

I'm not making a point anyway, I'm responding to a (strawman, but representative) argument.

[Madrun Badrun]

It will be intresting to see how many data gathering methods remain in effect in China for the comming years.

[OnlyRegret]

If any mass death was actually happening, we'd know about. Can only cover up so much when you have oh so many places for things to leak. Millions of individuals with global communications access.
Understated, possibly, this virus seems way too contagious to be put away easily. Cover up debates is mainly geopolitical dick thrusts between the American state with its (media) subsidiaries and opponents.

[shosta]

looks like i caught whatever reeotous has

[Mandark]

also how you gonna quote vom asking a question and write a paragraph without ever answering it

the answer fwiw is yes

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/soapachu/status/1246793653294686208

[OnlyRegret]

Checked Worldometer, Finland is indeed currently at -1 for the day

[shosta]

also how you gonna quote vom asking a question and write a paragraph without ever answering it

the answer fwiw is yes

that's evidence in my favor

[Occam]

US blocks millions of N95 face masks headed for Canada

“Never again in the history of Canada should we ever be beholden to countries around the world or companies around the world for the safety and well-being for the people of Canada,” Ford said Friday. ”I’m not going to rely on President Trump, I’m not going to rely on any prime minister or president from any country ever again.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/us-blocks-face-masks-canada-n95-protection-equipment

[Tasty]

”I’m not going to rely on President Trump, I’m not going to rely on any prime minister or president from any country ever again.”

Cucked

[Potato]

i don't want to suck china's dick too hard here but maybe you guys are just experiencing a lot of cognitive dissonance that a country of a billion poor ass rice farmers who allegedly eat bats was able to mobilize its resources and effectively contain/suppress the outbreak while the apex civilizations are still squabbling over distribution of masks and constitutional rights.

Why is it so hard to believe that a totalitarian regime that routinely makes whole groups of people disappear is also probably not reporting on the number of deaths being caused by a virus that originated in said totalitarianism regime?

[OnlyRegret]

And related to all things China

https://www.change.org/p/united-nations-call-for-the-resignation-of-tedros-adhanom-ghebreyesus-who-director-general

[Nintex]

Hopefully Boris takes some of that magic malaria drug and it works and he recovers.
To echo the prophet of our times, "What does he have to lose?"

Still it would be a fitting but sad end to his story arc.


Also you can't trust the Russians with much but you can trust them when it comes to reports of the health of world leaders.
They are seldom wrong when it comes to that and usually the first to report on it.

[ToxicAdam]

Just a personal anecdote, but I am very worried that the bore's like-economy is going into a recession and I request a mod bailout. 

The more worrisome aspect is there is no backup plan if filler gets sick.

[thisismyusername]

Just a personal anecdote, but I am very worried that the bore's like-economy is going into a recession and I request a mod bailout. 

The more worrisome aspect is there is no backup plan if filler gets sick.

I mean, I guess I can go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR on folks... but...

[Madrun Badrun]

US blocks millions of N95 face masks headed for Canada

“Never again in the history of Canada should we ever be beholden to countries around the world or companies around the world for the safety and well-being for the people of Canada,” Ford said Friday. ”I’m not going to rely on President Trump, I’m not going to rely on any prime minister or president from any country ever again.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/us-blocks-face-masks-canada-n95-protection-equipment

https://globalnews.ca/news/6783216/justin-trudeau-us-blocking-medical-supplies-coronavirus-covid-19/

it was 500,000 masks and they have been released. 

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/flidby/status/1247242009557045266

[Occam]

US blocks millions of N95 face masks headed for Canada

“Never again in the history of Canada should we ever be beholden to countries around the world or companies around the world for the safety and well-being for the people of Canada,” Ford said Friday. ”I’m not going to rely on President Trump, I’m not going to rely on any prime minister or president from any country ever again.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/us-blocks-face-masks-canada-n95-protection-equipment

https://globalnews.ca/news/6783216/justin-trudeau-us-blocking-medical-supplies-coronavirus-covid-19/

it was 500,000 masks and they have been released.

An Ontario government source then clarified that it was actually 500,000 — not three million — medical masks held up at the border, but said they had since been released.

Then after that, Ford spoke to media at his daily press conference to offer additional explanation.

“What I understand is we had three million masks that were stopped by U.S. officials coming out of 3M in South Dakota,” Ford said.

[BIONIC]

Just a personal anecdote, but I am very worried that the bore's like-economy is going into a recession and I request a mod bailout. 

The more worrisome aspect is there is no backup plan if filler gets sick.

I mean, I guess I can go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR on folks... but...

It wouldn’t be the same 

[Madrun Badrun]

US blocks millions of N95 face masks headed for Canada

“Never again in the history of Canada should we ever be beholden to countries around the world or companies around the world for the safety and well-being for the people of Canada,” Ford said Friday. ”I’m not going to rely on President Trump, I’m not going to rely on any prime minister or president from any country ever again.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/us-blocks-face-masks-canada-n95-protection-equipment

https://globalnews.ca/news/6783216/justin-trudeau-us-blocking-medical-supplies-coronavirus-covid-19/

it was 500,000 masks and they have been released.

An Ontario government source then clarified that it was actually 500,000 — not three million — medical masks held up at the border, but said they had since been released.

Then after that, Ford spoke to media at his daily press conference to offer additional explanation.

“What I understand is we had three million masks that were stopped by U.S. officials coming out of 3M in South Dakota,” Ford said.

I'll wait until someone not Ford backs up the same thing.

[Occam]

As we established before, Ford, much like his late brother, appears to be a moron.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1247279994126073860

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1247282391422468097

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1247286121945587718

What the hell is he talking about 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/lizzkatherine_/status/1247291781978431489

There was like 2 days where blacks people thought they were immune to Corona virus.

[shosta]

meanwhile in the UK

https://twitter.com/Julian5News/status/1246712647296462848

[Uncle]

US blocks millions of N95 face masks headed for Canada

“Never again in the history of Canada should we ever be beholden to countries around the world or companies around the world for the safety and well-being for the people of Canada,” Ford said Friday. ”I’m not going to rely on President Trump, I’m not going to rely on any prime minister or president from any country ever again.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/us-blocks-face-masks-canada-n95-protection-equipment

https://globalnews.ca/news/6783216/justin-trudeau-us-blocking-medical-supplies-coronavirus-covid-19/

it was 500,000 masks and they have been released.

An Ontario government source then clarified that it was actually 500,000 — not three million — medical masks held up at the border, but said they had since been released.

Then after that, Ford spoke to media at his daily press conference to offer additional explanation.

“What I understand is we had three million masks that were stopped by U.S. officials coming out of 3M in South Dakota,” Ford said.

3m

are you fucking shitting me are you god damn butt shitting me

he made the exact same mistake as trump when he had his population gaffe

https://twitter.com/AdamTaylorBates/status/1244749627745845254

 

[stufte]

The world is run by fucking morons, news at 11.

[shosta]

edit: oh so it's a company. cool

[benjipwns]

Company towns were often named after the company.

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya like Hershey Pennsylvania or Pornhub Quebec. 

[shosta]

I was watching some Kudlow interviews from the end of February. He said the virus was "fully contained" and "airtight"  

https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1247233458453299200

[benjipwns]

When will the US economy fall?

So many people and businesses are out of jobs, how is this hot air lasting so long?

It's called FAITH and it's how we beat your commie ass in the cold war and Democratic primaries.

[Nintex]

I like how Larry adds: "WHATEVER" at the end 
Here's another one, chewing official TRUMP gum to hide the alcohol 

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1247273099927654401


Trump/Pence 2020
"You might not agree, but whatever"

[ToxicAdam]

https://twitter.com/lizzkatherine_/status/1247291781978431489

There was like 2 days where blacks people thought they were immune to Corona virus.

60 percent of New Orleans is black.

We’re seeing similar disparity in other places like Michigan and Illinois because of the large Black populations in Chicago and Detroit.

You have to think that public transportation is playing a huge role in the spread of this.