Corona Thread |OT| Nu variant, who dis?

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/alexis_egeland/status/1268444816540459014
https://twitter.com/ejkomenda/status/1268449117228814336

[Positive Touch]

this country is going to be in a very bad place for a very long time 

[Madrun Badrun]

Ya, it will be normalized that grandma dies at 60 and young adults can end up in the hospital for a few weeks, and be bankrupted for it.   Pretty sure the last part is already normal. 

[CatsCatsCats]

Tasty: Oh good! It’s open! Borecon!

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/chicken__puppet/status/1268713460935692288

[Joe Molotov]

Tasty: Oh good! It’s open! Borecon!

Looks like bug chasing is back on the menu. 

[thisismyusername]

People being bored is ok. Going back to normal isn't. Everyone gets bored. The issue is that a lot of people can't seem to figure out ways to entertain themselves WITHOUT going to public places that are packed to the gills.

Humans are social creatures, yeah. But there's many different ways of keeping "business as usual" going without doing something like those Craps tables.

The issue is (like the meeting at work I had) enforcing building capacity limits and masks is damn near impossible.

[team filler]

main problem is a large part of the population doesn't care at all about wearing a mask even if they get sick. I still see people wearing masks, but most people aren't. mostly it's people working who are wearing masks, so they're just doing what the boss tells them to do and probably don't wear it at all after spending 8+ hours at work forced to wear it

[thisismyusername]

That's true. I hate wearing the masks because they really make it hard to breathe at times. But I still wear them when I head to the store/etc. It's dumb not to.

[thisismyusername]

BUT THINK OF THE ECONOMY THOUGH, TOILET!!!!!!!!!!

Healthcare Plz.

[Coffee Dog]

I drive to and from work and the only masks I've seen in about two weeks are lone mask wearers when there's a cluster of 5+ other maskless people waiting at the bus stop. Places like gas stations are entirely maskless. People look at me like I'm wearing a foil hat when I wear mine, even though we're one of the problematic areas.

[ToxicAdam]

I think the real issue is that no one is talking about contact tracing anymore. It’s like we’ve collectively, immediately decided that it is a bridge too far. When in reality it’s the probably the most important tool we need to implement if we have to ‘live with covid’.  A vaccine isn’t a sure thing.

[thisismyusername]

I think the real issue is that no one is talking about contact tracing anymore. It’s like we’ve collectively, immediately decided that it is a bridge too far. When in reality it’s the probably the most important tool we need to implement if we have to ‘live with covid’.  A vaccine isn’t a sure thing.

...It sort of is a bridge too far if you consider privacy invasion/etc. Snowden's talked about this, if you're interested in the complications with it and your privacy. Though that was back in the early parts of the outbreak.

I drive to and from work and the only masks I've seen in about two weeks are lone mask wearers when there's a cluster of 5+ other maskless people waiting at the bus stop. Places like gas stations are entirely maskless. People look at me like I'm wearing a foil hat when I wear mine, even though we're one of the problematic areas.

It's about 50% for around here. But I'd probably lean 40/60 masks/no-masks. I feel it's partially because it's IMPOSSIBLE to get any sort of mask (unless you make one yourself which may/may not be as effective) and "fuck the gubment, they can't tell me what to do  "stupidity.

I've seen parents with no masks going to/from stores with their kids in tow with no masks either and I'm like

But then there are others that fully mask up, so it's a total toss-up.

I would love to move out, but the government is doing nothing in regards to owed pay as it is, I can't imagine still living on my own...

At least you'd be able to move out, eventually. I can't even imagine that with my current job (ugh) or finding a new one (double ugh).

[brawndolicious]

Here in San Jose, I always see masks at stores because almost all of them have signs saying you can't enter without one.

The exception is parks, I went to a park once and I saw almost no one with a mask. Originally, the city flipped over all the picnic tables and put signs and caution tape on them saying that they are not to be used because of social distancing but I saw about half of them flipped over and occupied by white people. I'm not trying to be racist, but it's what you would expect...

I have no idea where people got masks from, I know some stores started giving them out to shoppers who didn't have one but I don't know if you needed to buy it or if it was free. Personally, I've had an N95 from a year ago during the wildfires that my work gave out and that's all I've been using for almost 4 months. I have a bunch of extras I got from my brother who works in a hospital though. How often are you supposed to switch them out or "bake" them?

[team filler]

I bought a pack of 50, but I've only gone through 3 so far. I keep the current mask on the dash and my car sits in the sun all day, figure that's good enough 

[thisismyusername]

at stores all of them have signs saying you can't enter without one.

The same around here, thing is: People go in with no masks anyway and what can the store do besides call the police to kick them out forcefully? They can't really do anything beyond "uh... could you not?"

[Coax]

Personally, I've had an N95 from a year ago during the wildfires that my work gave out and that's all I've been using for almost 4 months. I have a bunch of extras I got from my brother who works in a hospital though. How often are you supposed to switch them out or "bake" them?

Ordinarily in hospitals a clean disposable respirator would be donned between close contact with patients but there it has been determined who has the virus obviously, unlike in public where it's ambiguous so I suppose it'd be up to the user to decide. The study completed for the FDA on the effectiveness of UV-C decontamination found the process had no adverse effect on filtering performance after 20 cycles across well-known brands (ironically it was the straps that saw more degradation) but beyond that haven't read about max number of decontamination cycles, however for reusable respirator filters from 3M they've said one can last an entire pandemic wave (the filter is within the cartridge rather than exposed directly so the outer plastic surface can be decontaminated independently).

I've seen various DIY projects for disposable respirator UV-C decontamination. This box chamber using off-the-shelf hardware components seemed decent and addresses the issue of accidental light exposure.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/06/04/aquasha-moore-18-dies-of-covid-19-a-week-before-high-school-graduation/

[ToxicAdam]

The riots were your second stimulus. You're missing out.

[Cryo]

Here in San Jose, I always see masks at stores because almost all of them have signs saying you can't enter without one.

The exception is parks, I went to a park once and I saw almost no one with a mask. Originally, the city flipped over all the picnic tables and put signs and caution tape on them saying that they are not to be used because of social distancing but I saw about half of them flipped over and occupied by white people. I'm not trying to be racist, but it's what you would expect...

I have no idea where people got masks from, I know some stores started giving them out to shoppers who didn't have one but I don't know if you needed to buy it or if it was free. Personally, I've had an N95 from a year ago during the wildfires that my work gave out and that's all I've been using for almost 4 months. I have a bunch of extras I got from my brother who works in a hospital though. How often are you supposed to switch them out or "bake" them?

please let me know if you need masks, my friend who lives in SJ has been sewing them for friends&family. I currently have 3 that I hand wash between uses and alternate each day of the week I go out.

[Ghoul]

The riots were your second stimulus. You're missing out.

I’m almost 80. I can’t be out in the streets stealing shit. My knees can’t take it.

Care to explain this.

[Raist]

Biden can move mountains when there's little girls around.

[Ghoul]

ahh the hilldog routine. Classic.

[Tripon]

As scientists race to find a coronavirus vaccine, some researchers are pinning their hopes on vaccines that already exist: The BCG vaccine. It's traditionally used against tuberculosis and has been shown to also protect against a range of other diseases. Researchers are now hoping that Covid-19 could be one of them. In this video we ask: To what extent could BCG tuberculosis vaccines be used against the new coronavirus?

[BisMarckie]

We've been on this mask thing for the better part of 3 months now and every time I go out, at least 50% of people still are wearing them wrong. So many people with their noses not cover, so many people that have the mask on but not even covering their mouth, wearing it on their foreheads or under their chins.

I started to call people out who are not wearing their mask right and/or are getting way too close to me.

Why the fuck do people want to stand so fucking close at the checkout anyway? It’s not going to be faster, that irked me before the Rona as well.


I became a Karen

[Pissy F Benny]

always seems to be old people who do it too

[Ghoul]

always seems to be old people who do it too

If I was old and had early onset dementia I'd wanna die too TBH.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1268927569065324547

[brawndolicious]

Here in San Jose, I always see masks at stores because almost all of them have signs saying you can't enter without one.

The exception is parks, I went to a park once and I saw almost no one with a mask. Originally, the city flipped over all the picnic tables and put signs and caution tape on them saying that they are not to be used because of social distancing but I saw about half of them flipped over and occupied by white people. I'm not trying to be racist, but it's what you would expect...

I have no idea where people got masks from, I know some stores started giving them out to shoppers who didn't have one but I don't know if you needed to buy it or if it was free. Personally, I've had an N95 from a year ago during the wildfires that my work gave out and that's all I've been using for almost 4 months. I have a bunch of extras I got from my brother who works in a hospital though. How often are you supposed to switch them out or "bake" them?

please let me know if you need masks, my friend who lives in SJ has been sewing them for friends&family. I currently have 3 that I hand wash between uses and alternate each day of the week I go out.

Thanks but no worries, I got plenty.

[Bebpo]

Man, I look at my county numbers and we're not even at a plateau, but still having soft increases going up the slope in everything.

And I got a fedex guy at my door today because one thing I was getting delivered apparently needed a verbal signature and fedex isn't even wearing masks anymore? Like they're on the "hey, we're done Covid is over" train? I tried to stay about 6 feet back and give the guy my name when he asked for it, but it definitely made me less comfortable to know fedex, or at least these guy, is over masks already.

At least all the instacart people who've been delivering my groceries have still been showing up with masks.

[Tripon]

I think you'll also see the Asians grocery stores in general do the mask thing. The Korea and Japanese gorcery store is 100% masks. The Smart and Final is much more spotty. 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/KTLA/status/1269012854201446401

I don't think schools will reopen anytime soon, fall included. But we'll see.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/jchaltiwanger/status/1268979711922733057

 

[Bebpo]

I mean yeah.

the Protests are important and necessary at this moment in time,
and
Covid-19 is going to get a hell of a lot worse because of them.

It is what it is. Whatever precautions people are taking right now to avoid getting sick with Covid for themselves and their loved ones, they should amp those up tenfold in a month when Covid is even more prevalent everywhere and easier to catch in the USA.

In my personal friend group, today marked the second friend whose office had someone test Covid positive and their office is shutting down for 2 weeks. Feels like only a matter of time before every office in the USA has someone test positive. I'm dreading it happening at ours. Our office has called a handful of employees back who are spread out at stations 20 feet or more apart and has installed plexiglass walls around 3 out of 4 sides of each station and requires masks and handwashing regularly. Idk if that'll be enough. I'm still working from home until 2021 because it's not worth even taking a chance.

[Bebpo]

Yeah cheaper grocery store down the street that never really went that hardcore has a lot of employees pulling their masks down to chat, or joking around and putting them on their head.

Nicer store nearest me is still in full on crazy protocol mode;  closed most of the doors so you can only pick up a cart at the one place they are obsessively cleaning them, have the giant plastic screens in front of the tellers + they are wearing plastic screens on their faces, one way aisles, asking people to shop alone (not strict about that though), etc.

Not shockingly also see almost 100% mask usage at that store and maybe 50% masks at the other store.   A lot of this stuff is going to be drawn around class lines unfortunately;  the poorer you are the more likely you are to not follow rules like that.

My local grocery chain had changed the entrances to dedicated entrance and exit only, every cart was sprayed and wiped down before a customer took it. And then they just....stopped doing any of that. For a while all staff wore masks but now most of them don't, but they did put up plastic barriers at all the registers.

 :'(

It's one thing when your joe6pack is over it and stops wearing a mask or caring because MISSION ACCOMPLISHED,
but if the essential service companies like groceries and deliveries and stuff stop at this point that's ridiculous. Makes me so mad 

[Nintex]

Yeah cheaper grocery store down the street that never really went that hardcore has a lot of employees pulling their masks down to chat, or joking around and putting them on their head.

Nicer store nearest me is still in full on crazy protocol mode;  closed most of the doors so you can only pick up a cart at the one place they are obsessively cleaning them, have the giant plastic screens in front of the tellers + they are wearing plastic screens on their faces, one way aisles, asking people to shop alone (not strict about that though), etc.

Not shockingly also see almost 100% mask usage at that store and maybe 50% masks at the other store.   A lot of this stuff is going to be drawn around class lines unfortunately;  the poorer you are the more likely you are to not follow rules like that.

My local grocery chain had changed the entrances to dedicated entrance and exit only, every cart was sprayed and wiped down before a customer took it. And then they just....stopped doing any of that. For a while all staff wore masks but now most of them don't, but they did put up plastic barriers at all the registers.

I noticed the exact same thing when I went shopping today. Maybe it has something to do with research showing that surface infections are very uncommon?
Seems like some signal went out that it's not necessary anymore on normie facebook. I dunno.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://twitter.com/GraphicMatt/status/1268988013423529984

[Mandark]

Yeah, shit started popping off right after we hit 100k, which is already a big round number, so everyone just got stuck rhetorically on "a pandemic that's killed 100,000 Americans."

Meanwhile the virus is still out there doing work.

[Ghoul]

111k is just an unfathomably large number of preventable deaths. They'll look at us in the future like we're barbarians.

Don’t worry, the UK having 40k already is gonna save your asses when it comes to deaths per million people.

Although you ramping up to 10k in a week if it carries is gonna be awful, I dread to think what these protests are going to do with the numbers of cases. But then again I agree what they’re protesting, over here the health minister on the update begged people not to protest today, but that sure as fuck isn’t going to stop people.

[Madrun Badrun]

Excess deaths are going to be dad.

[Great Rumbler]

Brazil:

-30k new cases yesterday
-1k deaths yesterday
-65% of total tests conducted have resulted in a positive

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/06/us-health-workers-dying-coronavirus-stats-data

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/1269169419998990336

[Fifstar]

Brazil:

-30k new cases yesterday
-1k deaths yesterday
-65% of total tests conducted have resulted in a positive

Dafuq

[Great Rumbler]

Brazil is getting really bad, no sign of slowing down at all [more like speeding up, unfortunately].

[Tripon]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sweden-people-coronavirus-symptoms-getting-131000664.html

On the first day of her illness in March, Yvonne Karolin was so exhausted, she could barely lift a spoon to her mouth. Within a week, she had shortness of breath, a sore throat, headaches, and a low-grade fever — all symptoms of the coronavirus.

"It is not possible to distinguish COVID-19 from other infections from only the symptoms," the Swedish Public Health Agency website reads. "A laboratory test is required."

But Karolin, a 50-year-old development manager who lives in Stockholm, never got a test.

After calling Sweden's free healthcare hotline, Vårdguiden 1177, she was told to go the hospital. There, she waited two hours in a tent, only to be told by the doctor that the hospital wasn't administering diagnostic tests for COVID-19.

"She said, 'No, we don't test. We don't test anyone. We don't even test ourselves.' And then she left," Karolin said of the doctor's response.

Unlike other countries in Europe, Sweden opted not to impose a nationwide lockdown. Instead, it asked citizens to exercise social responsibility by maintaining a safe distance from one another and isolating if they felt sick. But the nation lags beyond most of the world in terms of coronavirus testing rates, making it hard to determine the full scale of its outbreak.

Sweden is currently administering around 27 tests per 1,000 people. That's far less than nearby Iceland and Denmark, which are administering 180 tests and 94 tests per 1,000 people, respectively. Even the US, which struggled with early delays in getting diagnostic tests distributed and available, is testing around 56 out of every 1,000 people.

Public-health experts agree that widespread testing is critical to know whether an outbreak is contained.

"I think there has been no testing at all here in Sweden, more or less," Karolin said. "That is the biggest mistake ever in this country that they haven't tested anyone."

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/SFist/status/1268695305555513349

Look for the zombies

[Rufus]

https://twitter.com/JonathonJ1997/status/1268695842086477825

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/NBCPhiladelphia/status/1269330816741650433

Hopefully none of these people are infected

[Tripon]

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1269426466896347136
https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1269428001533562883

[CatsCatsCats]

So it’s getting worse and we’re done trying, is that the vibe?

[ToxicAdam]

If a public school has a pre-K program, I don’t even know how you set guidelines for it. Everything they do is group, play-based learning.

Guess they’ll just sit outside and play in the dirt by themselves.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1269458606002524160

[Mandark]

CORRECTION: It was Florida's last governor and current senator whose company was embezzling from Medicaid, not its current governor.

[Madrun Badrun]

So it’s getting worse and we’re done trying, is that the vibe?

Yep.  America is just jumping from one crisis to the next.

[Tripon]

Florida spent like $80 million to rework their unemployment website during Rick Scott's time as governor to make it harder to claim unemployment to make the numbers look smaller. Then a once in a century pandemic hit.

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil/brazil-takes-down-covid-19-data-hiding-soaring-death-toll-idUSKBN23D0PW

[Nintex]

Our government still insists there's no scientific evidence that the widespread use of masks helps to reduce the spread.
Nor did they put much effort in protecting the elderly of which many died in care homes.

We never went into a 'full' lockdown like New York and Italy and even the left thinks China created the virus in a lab and the WHO helped to cover it up.
Now that there was a massive BLM protest in Amsterdam, everyone is PISSED that they have to accept all sorts of restrictions.
Both the people that want their restaurants fully opened and not just 30 seats and 2 people per table and the protest groups who want to protest more.

The calls to open up everything with no restrictions and to just 'let it ride' are growing louder and louder.

The mood is basically this: 

[team filler]

Dutch directness

https://twitter.com/adam_tooze/status/1269622640391618560

here in united states, we don't think about coronavirus at all