Corona Thread |OT| Please scream inside your heart

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/24/us/missouri-hairstylists-coronavirus-clients-trnd/index.html

[CatsCatsCats]

Maybe the latest stages of capitalism we can just reward people cash for being alive after the latest pandemic, disaster, etc

[Oblivion]

i had to cancel my e3 plans cause of the virus

and cause of these idiots, i may have to it again next year as well 

[Tripon]

E3 is dead. There's no way it comes back as this game only thing that was progressively not catering to companies, big and small.

[Oblivion]

you mean like fully dead dead or dead as in it's not going to come back in the form we're familiar with?

[Tripon]

You might have the bigger companies informally agreeing that the summer is a good time to release a bunch of info at the same time. We're just not going to see a week of new information and 100,000 people attending an event anymore.

[Nintex]

The industry is still in need of these events and get togethers like the GDC and E3 as a lot of business is done between publishers and developers behind the scenes.
In some cases it is the only opportunity for some devs and publishers to meet. However, it probably won't be the big 'video game reveal' show for consumers anymore and focus more on the business side of things.
E3 was always about the convenience of having the developers, publishers, retailers, investors and journalists from all over the world in one place.

That's ultimately why GamesCom won't ever be 'as big' no matter how hard they try. By August every developer is in crunch mode and very few bother to go to Europe.

[Oblivion]

i mean, i know the ESA's been trying to cater to everyone and failing, but what was the worst that's happened so far? Sorny not attending? well they didn't attend last year either. i know geoff keighly said he wasn't going to show up either, so that was kind of big and also a bummer. but 95% of e3 hadn't changed and 95% of publishers/developers were still showing up.

i know a lot of the big names stomp their feet loudly, complaining about how e3 is done, but this isn't really a new thing. remember back in the day when they had a much smaller and more 'professional' e3 and that abomination that was e4all? they were both such embarassing travesties that everyone came running back the following year.

edit: mostly agree with nintex

[Oblivion]

yeah but didn't that happen before the corona stuff? it was the virus that caused them to cancel it, not publishers dropping out from the data leak.

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1262689354566205441

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/chicken__puppet/status/1264692704690098176

[Nintex]

Pretty much every country has covered it up because no one has actually bothered(or has the resources) to test everyone that passed away to see if corona was the cause.
Most countries have started to 'adjust' those numbers but it's all pretty vague. Then there's also people with multiple conditions.

If someone with lung cancer dies of corona is cancer the cause or corona?

Russia lied about the deaths in Ukraine, their recent failed Nuclear test and many other such incidents.
It's not exactly shocking news that they might be covering this up too.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1264707014195806210
https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1264710626221400070
https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1264710971827933184

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1264701224818966534

[CatsCatsCats]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

Aka IF EVERYONE WOULD HAVE SHUT THE FUCK UO AND STAYED HOME, THIS WOULD BE OVER

Sheesh

[Mandark]

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/weirdmedicine/status/1263937980026191874
https://twitter.com/weirdmedicine/status/1263939696331235329
https://twitter.com/weirdmedicine/status/1263940983311515649
https://twitter.com/weirdmedicine/status/1263941366335205376
https://twitter.com/weirdmedicine/status/1263941748927205382
https://twitter.com/weirdmedicine/status/1264193516592410626

[Oblivion]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

wait, i get not being sick again once you got the virus. but how the heck do you not transmit the virus after you get better if you still test positive for it?

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

wait, i get not being sick again once you got the virus. but how the heck do you not transmit the virus after you get better if you still test positive for it?

The tests detect the presence of viral RNA, even when there's not enough active virus remaining to infect someone else.

[Coffee Dog]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

wait, i get not being sick again once you got the virus. but how the heck do you not transmit the virus after you get better if you still test positive for it?

It detects materials that are not viable enough to infect anyone.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1264791008006606853
https://twitter.com/McauleyHolmes/status/1264721468761481216
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1264729406397956096
https://twitter.com/BBCLBicker/status/1264747909125271555
https://twitter.com/KALONSMERALDO/status/1264734099585011713
https://twitter.com/mixtapesradio/status/1264760534689341447

[Fifstar]

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1264674549431447556

wait, i get not being sick again once you got the virus. but how the heck do you not transmit the virus after you get better if you still test positive for it?

I believe the infections happen mainly when the virus load is high in the mouth nasal mucosa. From coughing, sneezing and aresol emission. In the typical course of infection the virus travels down into the lungs (this is where it can get dangerous). The virus load in the mouth nose area reduces greatly during these process, as does infectiousness. As far as i know people often stop being infectious even though they are still in hospital in bad conditions.

The most infectious day is actually the day before the outbreak of the virus (e.g. the day before the symptoms show up).

[Mr Gilhaney]

Negative rona test. The salad bar was safe

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/05/23/landlords-lining-up-to-evict-hundreds-of-tampa-bay-tenants-once-moratorium-expires/

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/Anthony/status/1264669571392450560

Social distancing was observed and building disinfected for affected Sunday May 10 ceremonies, says senior member

At least 107 people have been found to be infected with the new coronavirus after some of them attended Sunday services at a church in Frankfurt two weeks ago, according to German officials,

[CatsCatsCats]

Several bars/restaurants up on the mountain were caught completely off guard by the decision to reopen by the county, and are remaining closed because they were in the middle of various forms of renovation projects

[Pennywise]

https://twitter.com/Anthony/status/1264669571392450560

Social distancing was observed and building disinfected for affected Sunday May 10 ceremonies, says senior member

At least 107 people have been found to be infected with the new coronavirus after some of them attended Sunday services at a church in Frankfurt two weeks ago, according to German officials,

The fucked up part is that restaurants etc. have to write down the contact information of every customer. So they're able to trace the infection chains. This didn't apply to the church 

[team filler]

I couldn't go to cafe dolce yesterday, because too many people were out 


I've been enjoying the few places I go out to having little to no traffic up until now. solvang was looking like any other nice day before covid, people everywhere   

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/Ayoo_Miss_/status/1264983693137006593

[kingv]

Cut my own hair yesterday. The back is completely fucked 😂

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-scientist-warns-coronavirus-vaccine-not-guaranteed-worldwide-cases-n1211826

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1264988863287758848

Counties won by President Trump in 2016 have reported just 27 percent of the virus infections and 21 percent of the deaths — even though 45 percent of Americans live in these communities

[Madrun Badrun]

Give it time.

[team filler]

Cut my own hair yesterday. The back is completely fucked 😂

I had to give myself a buzz. My curly locks :rip

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/jc_bradbury/status/1265060426196402176

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-covid-19-deaths-are-counted1/

[bork]

Went to park yesterday (doggo walk) and there was a football game going on.  Zero social-distancing going on, including a small crowd watching. 

Also went to my parents' house for dinner.  We brought our own food/drinks and sat on the back porch six+ feet away.  My mom told me that they had a table and chairs set up for this already because they had friends over the night before.  Went and got shit to disinfect everything before sitting down.  Then they tell me that they're not doing this with friends again- one of them has cancer and is high-risk, yes despite this had gone to a nail salon the same day and was saying how there were lots of people inside. 

Then we went for a walk.  All the neighbors were out and distancing themselves, but their kids were all running around in everyone's yards and playing with each other, so not sure how that makes any difference. 

 

[ToxicAdam]

Drove by a Golden Corral (cheap buffet) today and it was back open with the parking lot half full. America is back.

[Tripon]

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — With Brazil emerging as one of the world’s most infected countries, President Jair Bolsonaro is deflecting all responsibility for the coronavirus crisis, casting blame on mayors, governors, an outgoing health minister and the media.

By contrast, he portrays himself as a clear-eyed crusader willing to defend an unpopular idea — that shutting down the economy to control COVID-19 will ultimately cause more suffering than allowing the disease to run its course. The refusal of governors to fall into line with his decree allowing gyms to open, he said, verged on authoritarianism.

Since the outbreak started, the Brazilian leader has avoided acknowledging the potential effects of his actions, particularly in undermining local leaders’ stay-at-home recommendations. A rare exception came in mid-April, as Bolsonaro appointed a new health minister tasked with sparing the economy from the coronavirus.

“Reopening commerce is a risk I run because, if it (the virus) gets worse, then it lands in my lap,” he said.

Less than two weeks later, as Brazil’s death toll blew past 5,000, he told reporters, “You’re not going to put on my lap this count that isn’t mine.”

https://apnews.com/7a7e8a0d3c524986412245ec9a23fad0?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

[Positive Touch]

Drove by a Golden Corral (cheap buffet) today and it was back open with the parking lot half full. America is back.

anyone that goes to Golden Corral doesn't really value life anyways

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/missiwimberly/status/1264271585495715842

Karen going to karen

[bluemax]

yeah but didn't that happen before the corona stuff? it was the virus that caused them to cancel it, not publishers dropping out from the data leak.

People were dropping out of E3 even before it became apparent Corona was gonna shut it down. Nintex is right for a change that E3 and GDC do serve the purpose of allowing for business meetings that are very important, especially for smaller less known devs. All the other aspects of E3 are generally easier and cheaper to accomplish without an in person trade show. Trade shows as a whole are looking pretty unlikely for the next year.

GDC's problem is that it is expensive to go to, in the most expensive city on the planet possibly, and doesn't pay its speakers. The parts that can't be easily replaced are the parties and the face to face business meetings.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1265143136071942145

Spoiler: These people will not self quarentine.

[shosta]

Hotels are opening up here on the 4th! It's on, guys!

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/39Magilla/status/1265113479792517121

Deaths "Not By Natural Causes" have plunged during the Lockdown. These reductions in deaths are not taken into account in excess death estimates. If they were, there would be 15,000 to 20,000 additional deaths, beyond the current "excess deaths" estimate of 130,000 to 140,000.

Even without taking the effect of "Deaths Not By Natural Causes" many states are under-counting. Death counts are > 1.7X higher in more than official counts in 25 states. 

https://twitter.com/39Magilla/status/1265266651580301315
https://twitter.com/39Magilla/status/1265270958111195137

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/25/861923548/stockholm-wont-reach-herd-immunity-in-may-sweden-s-chief-epidemiologist-says

Sweden's Public Health Agency last week released the initial findings of an ongoing antibodies study that showed that only 7.3% of people in Stockholm had developed antibodies against COVID-19 by late April. Tegnell later described the study's figure as a "bit lower than we'd thought," adding that the study represented a snapshot of the situation some weeks ago and he believed that by now "a little more than 20%" of Stockholm's population should have contracted the virus.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1264988863287758848

Counties won by President Trump in 2016 have reported just 27 percent of the virus infections and 21 percent of the deaths — even though 45 percent of Americans live in these communities

Can't measure if you don't believe.

[Flannel Boy]

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/25/861923548/stockholm-wont-reach-herd-immunity-in-may-sweden-s-chief-epidemiologist-says

Sweden's Public Health Agency last week released the initial findings of an ongoing antibodies study that showed that only 7.3% of people in Stockholm had developed antibodies against COVID-19 by late April. Tegnell later described the study's figure as a "bit lower than we'd thought," adding that the study represented a snapshot of the situation some weeks ago and he believed that by now "a little more than 20%" of Stockholm's population should have contracted the virus.

Using official numbers, taking Stockholm county's deaths and population into account, that's an IFR 1.1%, which is inline with the numbers from NYC, the UK, and Spain.


The IFR for a Western country is ~1%. If excess deaths are taken into account (and these numbers don't factor that deaths "Not By Natural Causes" have plunged) the IFR is closer to ~1.5%.

eeit:
Danish seroprevalence with random sampling indicates 0.5-1.8%. This puts the IFR in Denmark somewhere between 0.5-1.7%--1.1% is the middle figure--equal Stockholm's.

[porkbun]

Hotels are opening up here on the 4th! It's on, guys!

The hotels have been open, at least Hiltons, because they've been sending me offers.

Aren't all the casinos still closed though?  What would be the point to visit?

[shosta]

They open June 4th!

[Flannel Boy]

Over 100,000 deaths in the US (well over if excess deaths are counted):

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Tripon]

The casinos are supposed to be open by June 4th

[CatsCatsCats]

This last weeks claim still not processed

[tiesto]

I finally got my stimulus payment in the form of a debit card... got a bit more than I expected too! Time to binge on beer and retro game pickups

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/BrennanSpiegel/status/1265119535901732865

[Madrun Badrun]

The future is looking at people's poop to tell how sick they are before they are sick.  Going to poop screen my future children to see if they are going to watch hentai or not. 

[CatsCatsCats]

In-toilet scanners when?

... hacked toilet scanner porn when?

[Nintex]

I finally got my stimulus payment in the form of a debit card... got a bit more than I expected too! Time to binge on beer and retro game pickups

[Joe Molotov]

The future is looking at people's poop to tell how sick they are before they are sick.  Going to poop screen my future children to see if they are going to watch hentai or not. 

I'll just tell you now; they will.