Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[VomKriege]

Public transphobiation.

[Transhuman]

the low key misogyny of assuming any technically minded woman is yrans 

https://www.reddit.com/user/0xEMPRESS

Harrassing women out of tech

[Spieler1]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-feel-about-highbrow-waifu-games-genshin-impact-nier-etc.311371/page-3#post-49197118

This poll did not go AT ALL like I thought it would. I tried to make the poll answers a little biased but wow, I feel like Hillary in 2016. You might have a majority but not a mandate

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It’s creepy.

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[brawndolicious]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-feel-about-highbrow-waifu-games-genshin-impact-nier-etc.311371/page-3#post-49197118

This poll did not go AT ALL like I thought it would. I tried to make the poll answers a little biased but wow, I feel like Hillary in 2016. You might have a majority but not a mandate

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It’s creepy.

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I'll be honest, the discussion in that thread has gone better and worse than I could have imagined. Way too many posters arguing what highbrow means but the results are definitely interesting with the plurality going to the waifu fans but the majority saying they don't like it.

It's also funny how everyone is super polarized on how they feel about waifuness. It's good that there's not a lot of fence sitters.

[Momo]

So, regarding the Cyberpunk thing... I don't know about you guys, but my dick isn't glowing. Which means the dick in the ad is probably a cybernetic implant (which makes a lot more sense in context than a transsexual, really). So isn't it far more likely that the model depicted is supposed to be a plain old XX female who's really into pegging or something?

The artist confirmed she was transsexual.


Fuck the cosplayer and fuck the people harassing her. Both trash.

[Transhuman]

I think it comes down to whether the ad is a parody or not. I always saw it as an in-universe example of how progressive and "cyberpunk" future was in regards to sex/gender/bodies, and not the same as the parody advertising in GTA that's clearly meant to be a joke like "Ogay".

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I can understand how GTA has poisoned the well and made people see it as just a crass "that chick has a dick" joke.

[Clockwork5]

I think it comes down to whether the ad is a parody or not. I always saw it as an in-universe example of how progressive and "cyberpunk" future was in regards to sex/gender/bodies, and not the same as the parody advertising in GTA that's clearly meant to be a joke like "Ogay".

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I can understand how GTA has poisoned the well and made people see it as just a crass "that chick has a dick" joke.

I agree 100% that it doesn’t seem to be mocking the trans community. But In reality there is, as of yet, near zero context for the ad so I dont know. As much as I enjoy sharing a giggle with y’all watching the meltdowns over there, I have learned over the past several years of paying attention to actual LGBT activists that there doesn’t need to be malice or fun poking in order to genuinely offend. I would be interested to see some genuine, non-performative, reactions from trans people to some of the marketing for this game. In all honesty the examples of “trans people are normalized in this world” do seem kinda lazy. Like the voice tied to gender.

Am I personally offended or do I consider any of it transphobic? No. But I’m not trans so I’m not sure my opinion on any of this is very valuable.

[jorma]

So, regarding the Cyberpunk thing... I don't know about you guys, but my dick isn't glowing. Which means the dick in the ad is probably a cybernetic implant (which makes a lot more sense in context than a transsexual, really). So isn't it far more likely that the model depicted is supposed to be a plain old XX female who's really into pegging or something?

The artist confirmed she was transsexual.


Fuck the cosplayer and fuck the people harassing her. Both trash.

wait what did the cosplayer do? cosplaying with a cock even tho she has a vag? is that dickface?

[Yulwei]

How dare that woman put a dick between her legs? it's me i'm the progressive who believes in the essentialism of genitals

[benjipwns]

I agree 100% that it doesn’t seem to be mocking the trans community. But In reality there is, as of yet, near zero context for the ad so I dont know.

Sounds like you're choosing to believe the privileged TERF/Nazi artist:

"You'll notice many advertisements - for anything, a table, chair, a roof tile - slap a random sexy person on top and say 'hey, buy this'. This shows the sexploitation of those people, and many of our advertisements feature this sexualisation. We sexualise men, women, and people in between, all to show how terrible this is.

"With our advertisements, we want to say something. For instance, there's an advert for a fashion shop with the Colosseum - this beautiful piece of architecture - which has been taken over and turned into a marketplace. It's art destroyed for consumerism's sake. We have more examples here [in Cyberpunk's E3 2019 booth]."

Redesiuk and I are standing next to a poster which says 'three mouths, one desire'. It's a nod to Total Recall's 'I wish I had three hands' scene, she says, but also an example of the grotesque sex movies available in Cyberpunk 2077's world.

"So yes, we have a person with both breasts and a penis on an advertisement, done on purpose, because it's terrible to exploit people's bodies like this," Redesiuk continues.

The poster in question is an advert for Chromanticore, a regular cola, one of many fictional drink brands in the game.

"We thought this would be a brand which would slap a body on the advert and think nothing of it. It's a terrible thing to say 'mix it up' [the poster's tagline]. We're emulating what a company would say in Cyberpunk 2077."

"It was meant to make people feel uncomfortable," Redesiuk concludes. "Not because they're seeing someone with breasts and a penis, but because the body is being exploited. I didn't slap the penis there for people to laugh about it. There is a beautiful body there being used to sell soda."

[VomKriege]

How dare that woman put a dick between her legs?

How dare she ! 

[benjipwns]

I wonder if it might help to raise these issues to influential elected officials like Ocasio-Cortez. She has been actively involved with gamers before, and cares for the LGBTQ community and issues. If more awareness could be raised there, I think it may help raise awareness abroad. Failing real change, provided the senate and presidency flips, they might be willing to place sanctions on Poland until they relent.

[jorma]

I wonder if it might help to raise these issues to influential elected officials like Ocasio-Cortez. She has been actively involved with gamers before, and cares for the LGBTQ community and issues. If more awareness could be raised there, I think it may help raise awareness abroad. Failing real change, provided the senate and presidency flips, they might be willing to place sanctions on Poland until they relent.

[Ghoul]

sanctions on a country over a fucking video game? Holy fuck.

[Nintex]

sanctions on a country over a fucking video game? Holy fuck.

W A R

Poles are just a bunch of Trump loving Cyberpunk playing TERFS!!!

And that folks is why you don't want any of these people even close to holding any sort of political power 

[bork]

sanctions on a country over a fucking video game? Holy fuck.

[Pissy F Benny]

That has to be someone fucking around

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/page-29#post-49154824

I wonder if it might help to raise these issues to influential elected officials like Ocasio-Cortez. She has been actively involved with gamers before, and cares for the LGBTQ community and issues. If more awareness could be raised there, I think it may help raise awareness abroad. Failing real change, provided the senate and presidency flips, they might be willing to place sanctions on Poland until they relent.

I don't think putting this on the US government to deal with is the solution, here. This is something that affects trans people all over the world, and it's up to CDPR and its project leads to change -- which they don't seem willing to.

It doesn't have to be the US Government. I'm from there, and was giving a hypothetical where I saw some progress might be made. I'll sign petitions and speak out, but I think pressure from government may help too. We live in an international community now. Sanctions can have a big impact on countries.

Beyond CDPR, if Poland is forcing LGBTQ people out of their communities, they are violating human rights, and something should be done.

Or maybe we can reach out to the ESRB to tag all games with Transphobia as AO.

 

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/page-29#post-49231459

Regarding the expectations of what Cyberpunk as a game should or shouldn't be that EatChildren brings up.

I understand that kind of viewpoint, but it is missing the cultural context the game is made in and the contemporary audience it is being presented to.

If you take on a project within the vague genre of "distopian-setting" with the addition of Cyber-* then you will have to be judged on the cultural values that these already carry.
The original tabletop is only a small part of it, and probably overshadowed by things like Blade Runner, Neuromancer, RoboCop, etc. - merely because they have a more visible cultural value (not meaning they are more or less important, just more visible).

CDPR has, in itself, a gigantic cultural reach.
Their interpretation of the Witcher has a bigger exposure than the novels it is based upon.
Depending on how successful the Netflix series will be, it might be overtaken by that in terms of cultural visibility (watch out for the backlash of gamers wanting it to be more true to the games due to a mismatch of cultural expectations).

This means for the contemporary audience the CDPR version of Cyberpunk 2077 is the only cultural representation of CP2077.
But as it is released to an already existing cultural expectation of what "distopian fiction" is with the additional modifier of Cyber-*, that is the basis on what this cultural artefact has to be judged on.

Games have such a reach, they cannot hide behind their own standards anymore. They have a cultural impact - so any addition to the library of games will have to be measured by the standard of our entire cultural knowledge.
Especially if you use a title that already come with cultural values.
(Also completely disregarding Punk here, as that's a whole other discussion).

On top of that: look at 2020. It's a real fucking mess we've built towards over decades of structural oppression, passive-aggressive negligence and backward-looking planning of the future.

Of course we all should be looking at what Cyberpunk 2077 presents itself as and scrutinise it with the entirety of our contemporary reality.

If it weren't for CDPR having such a massive reach, that scrutiny would just make it as relevant as "Postal".
Unfortunately that is not the case and their cultural output is doing actual harm to progressive real-world movements.

(Which is also why I think generalising people who look forward to playing it is absolutely fair game.)

[Ghoul]

lmao, can't wait for that weirdo to get arrested at a best buy for putting "this game is transphobic" on cyberpunk boxes.

[Pissy F Benny]

[Hermit]

Cyberpunk is going to brainwash the masses and will ultimately cause mass killing of trans folx

[VomKriege]

The Dantzig Corridor was a glowing dick all along.

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Maybe if Biden wins we can get him to go to war against Poland over cyberpunk 2077

[Nintex]

[Yulwei]

 

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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

It does really drive home the point home when even the actors voicing the lines sound like they are internally laughing at them. I really don't understand what it is with Netflix and sex scenes in general. There seem to be so many of them in their animated series lately and just... none of the ones I have seen make the least bit of sense in the context they're presented. It's just... the most awkward and weirdest shit, often in the middle of important scenes. It's made even worse when they're constantly jump cutting between them and other scenes that are happening simultaenously, like they couldn't make up their mind about the story they wanted to tell.

and goshdarn it, what's with all the bad language too? Why can't we have more wholesome shows instead of all this pottymouthed fornication?

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/page-29#post-49231459

Regarding the expectations of what Cyberpunk as a game should or shouldn't be that EatChildren brings up.

I understand that kind of viewpoint, but it is missing the cultural context the game is made in and the contemporary audience it is being presented to.

If you take on a project within the vague genre of "distopian-setting" with the addition of Cyber-* then you will have to be judged on the cultural values that these already carry.
The original tabletop is only a small part of it, and probably overshadowed by things like Blade Runner, Neuromancer, RoboCop, etc. - merely because they have a more visible cultural value (not meaning they are more or less important, just more visible).

CDPR has, in itself, a gigantic cultural reach.
Their interpretation of the Witcher has a bigger exposure than the novels it is based upon.
Depending on how successful the Netflix series will be, it might be overtaken by that in terms of cultural visibility (watch out for the backlash of gamers wanting it to be more true to the games due to a mismatch of cultural expectations).

This means for the contemporary audience the CDPR version of Cyberpunk 2077 is the only cultural representation of CP2077.
But as it is released to an already existing cultural expectation of what "distopian fiction" is with the additional modifier of Cyber-*, that is the basis on what this cultural artefact has to be judged on.

Games have such a reach, they cannot hide behind their own standards anymore. They have a cultural impact - so any addition to the library of games will have to be measured by the standard of our entire cultural knowledge.
Especially if you use a title that already come with cultural values.
(Also completely disregarding Punk here, as that's a whole other discussion).

On top of that: look at 2020. It's a real fucking mess we've built towards over decades of structural oppression, passive-aggressive negligence and backward-looking planning of the future.

Of course we all should be looking at what Cyberpunk 2077 presents itself as and scrutinise it with the entirety of our contemporary reality.

If it weren't for CDPR having such a massive reach, that scrutiny would just make it as relevant as "Postal".
Unfortunately that is not the case and their cultural output is doing actual harm to progressive real-world movements.

(Which is also why I think generalising people who look forward to playing it is absolutely fair game.)

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Those are a lot of words for saying absolutely nothing.

But as it is released to an already existing cultural expectation of what "distopian fiction" is with the additional modifier of Cyber-*, that is the basis on what this cultural artefact has to be judged on.

 

[Pissy F Benny]

It does really drive home the point home when even the actors voicing the lines sound like they are internally laughing at them. I really don't understand what it is with Netflix and sex scenes in general. There seem to be so many of them in their animated series lately and just... none of the ones I have seen make the least bit of sense in the context they're presented. It's just... the most awkward and weirdest shit, often in the middle of important scenes. It's made even worse when they're constantly jump cutting between them and other scenes that are happening simultaenously, like they couldn't make up their mind about the story they wanted to tell.

and goshdarn it, what's with all the bad language too? Why can't we have more wholesome shows instead of all this pottymouthed fornication?

They should try watching a hbo programme

[Kraftwerk]

another boomer thread;

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/travis-scott-presents-playstation-5.311797/

38 m insta follower or 10 mio youtube subs aint that impressive in 2020, but whatever.... he is not signed under a sony label, right?

 

[VomKriege]

While that's unfortunate for the Russian people, their nation is the aggressor and is impacting democracy globally.

 

[Pissy F Benny]

another boomer thread;

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/travis-scott-presents-playstation-5.311797/

38 m insta follower or 10 mio youtube subs aint that impressive in 2020, but whatever.... he is not signed under a sony label, right?

 

Tbf travis Scott is kinda wack tbh

[Joe Molotov]

the low key misogyny of assuming any technically minded woman is yrans 

cisogyny

[Nintex]

While that's unfortunate for the Russian people, their nation is the aggressor and is impacting democracy globally.

 

War with Poland and war with Russia

I see they have a plan for the East

[Tuckers Law]

SANCTIONS OVER PERCEIVED SLIGHTS FROM A VIDEOGAME DEV

FUCKING SANCTIONS

 

[Pissy F Benny]

The punishment has to fit the crime

[Tektonic]

why just the US OF A? UNITED NATIONS TO SANCTION POLAND - WHO WOULD DARE VETO?

China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States would stand-up against that enabler of CDPR!

[Tektonic]

Breaking news!

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1319888785287462912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Justice for CDPR complicity

[tiesto]

another boomer thread;

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/travis-scott-presents-playstation-5.311797/

38 m insta follower or 10 mio youtube subs aint that impressive in 2020, but whatever.... he is not signed under a sony label, right?

 

And then you have this: 

It has been brought to our attention that a large number of driveby posts are occurring in this thread, typically consisting of a "Who?" type of response. Members are obviously not expected to know every celebrity or popular internet personality; however, there is a noticeable trend that this happens far more in threads where the person is of a minority background. This in turn makes the collection of these driveby posts come off as dismissive and not engaging in good faith.

Moreover, it's really easy to just right-click and Google. There's just no excuse for this kind of post.

All posts of this nature prior to this staff banner will receive warnings, or bans if they go out of their way to rub their ignorance in people's faces. Users with a history of dismissiveness maybe subject to additional moderation.[//quote]

[HaughtyFrank]

another boomer thread;

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/travis-scott-presents-playstation-5.311797/

38 m insta follower or 10 mio youtube subs aint that impressive in 2020, but whatever.... he is not signed under a sony label, right?

 

And then you have this: 

It has been brought to our attention that a large number of driveby posts are occurring in this thread, typically consisting of a "Who?" type of response. Members are obviously not expected to know every celebrity or popular internet personality; however, there is a noticeable trend that this happens far more in threads where the person is of a minority background. This in turn makes the collection of these driveby posts come off as dismissive and not engaging in good faith.

Moreover, it's really easy to just right-click and Google. There's just no excuse for this kind of post.

All posts of this nature prior to this staff banner will receive warnings, or bans if they go out of their way to rub their ignorance in people's faces. Users with a history of dismissiveness maybe subject to additional moderation.

This screams of confirmation bias as I doubt there are any hard numbers they looked at. Which is more likely, that people don't know who he is or that they know perfectly well who he is but remember that he's black so they respond with a "who"

[tiesto]

Yeah I've seen it with lots of celebrities/musicians/internet stars of all races. Ariana Grande when she did the FF Brave Exvius collaboration immediately comes to mind.

tbf I know the name Travis Scott and knew he was a rapper but couldn't tell you any songs he's done. It's -extremely- easy to be siloed with music nowadays.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

another boomer thread;

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/travis-scott-presents-playstation-5.311797/

38 m insta follower or 10 mio youtube subs aint that impressive in 2020, but whatever.... he is not signed under a sony label, right?

 

And then you have this: 

It has been brought to our attention that a large number of driveby posts are occurring in this thread, typically consisting of a "Who?" type of response. Members are obviously not expected to know every celebrity or popular internet personality; however, there is a noticeable trend that this happens far more in threads where the person is of a minority background. This in turn makes the collection of these driveby posts come off as dismissive and not engaging in good faith.

Moreover, it's really easy to just right-click and Google. There's just no excuse for this kind of post.

All posts of this nature prior to this staff banner will receive warnings, or bans if they go out of their way to rub their ignorance in people's faces. Users with a history of dismissiveness maybe subject to additional moderation.

This screams of confirmation bias as I doubt there are any hard numbers they looked at. Which is more likely, that people don't know who he is or that they know perfectly well who he is but remember that he's black so they respond with a "who"

All minorities are victims, even the ones with 'influencer' jobs, millions of followers on social media, and giant moneyhats from global corporate multinationals for nebulous job titles like "strategic advisor".

Poor poor travis scott has people on rejectera who haven't heard of him, thank you mods for redressing the balance with bans

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Also I like how era moderators continue to fuck up doing a simple job and simultaneously make their own life harder in the meantime.

Normal forum:
"A lot of people don't know who the fuck the OP is talking about, so I as a moderator edited the OP and put that information in there"

Forum where the mods actively hate their fucking userbase:
"Hello, I am an asshole mod, so am making a threadmark and post here mid thread about who the fuck the OP is talking about, and anyone coming in here after this is gonna eat a ban for ignoring this post"

Era special sauce:
"OP didn't provide info and neither will I, but I am going to scour through this thread for every 'who?' post, then cross reference against our secret modbuddy list, then ban selected people arbitrarily and retroactively for a rule I just invented"

[cosmicblizzard]

Maybe they should think about the demographics of their site if minority celebrities are consistently met with a "who?"

[ShutUp]

People outside the US not knowing who Travis Scott is must obviously be racist and are likely from Poland.

Well done again, Era mods. Hopefully this "go use Google quickly" ability is something we will see when the prominent members shit up threads with things they could quickly Google and save themselves the embarrassment.

[ShutUp]

My ability to quickly use Google tells me that Stefflon Don is the top UK rapper of 2020. Just need someone from the UK to make the Era thought and watch the US based members floor the thread with "who?" comments. Mods will proceed to do nothing about it or actually put who she is in the OP for all of those who don't know.

[ShutUp]

Era: why do members not come into these controversial topics and TALK ABOUT THESE PROBLEMATIC COMPANIES!?

Also Era: You came into this topic and you don't know who this US based rapper is? BANNED!

Banning people for not knowing who someone is. These goofballs keep inventing new lows 

[tiesto]

Plus a lot of us are geeks, we celebrate our pop culture ignorance, there's nothing harmful, racist, or mean-spirited about it.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-game-forum-resetera-dot-com-turns-3-years-old.312445/

I still think of all the places to discuss video games online, this is the best one.

 

[remy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-game-forum-resetera-dot-com-turns-3-years-old.312445/

I still think of all the places to discuss video games online, this is the best one.

 

I know he meant to post that on the bire

[Spieler1]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/video-game-forum-resetera-dot-com-turns-3-years-old.312445/

I still think of all the places to discuss video games online, this is the best one.

 

Unless you want to talk about the most anticipated videogame release this year Cyberpunk on day 1

[Nintex]

3 years 

[benjipwns]

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you do?

[Snoopycat_]

 Remember that if you so strongly disagree with somebody that you don't think you can be civil, you need to report them.

They fucked up there. That rule is for prominent members only.

[Uncle]

ATTN TWITTER USER

You have been banned for the following tweet:

"zelda breath of the wild really isn't a 10/10 game, it's got plenty of flaws but that doesn't mean I don't still love it"

Reason for ban: user NintenJoe reported it, citing that it made him so angry he was about to issue a death threat.  He wisely decided to report instead.  We cannot have users expressing opinions so inflammatory as to put other users' accounts in jeopardy.  We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.

Date the ban will be lifted: never

[ShutUp]

Report them so mods can put the person who reported it on their shit list going forward. 

[Philip Cardgage]

Was Dahl really a piece of shit?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/roald-dahl%E2%80%99s-the-witches-2020-review-thread.311158/post-49157227

[Boredfrom]

Roald Dahl was an unpleasant man who wrote macabre books – and yet children around the world adore them. Perhaps this shouldn’t surprise us, writes Hephzibah Anderson.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20160912-the-dark-side-of-roald-dahl

The article itself was okay (and directly ends with “don’t care, enjoy the books” that contradicts the bitching) but that description made me laugh.


I don’t dare to read the second one that Cunt of Montecristo posted.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-my-10-000-post-lets-celebrate.312559/#post-49376911

Bro, I'm at 37,000 posts and I know this because some random dude decided to stalk my Twitter and tell me my post count as an insult the other day.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-you-had-the-talk-with-your-politically-ideologically-polar-opposite-parent-s.312508/#post-49372807

I only had to throw a chair at them to make them realize that spitting hate just for the hell of it wasn’t going to fly with me anymore.