Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[HaughtyFrank]

That is from a PM conversation I was having with Kyuuji after she told me that she was going to purposefully derail one of my threads.

That was also before I was educated on everything that CDPR has done in the past.

wow it's almost like we're just stirring up shit to stir up shit. i bet the discords are poppin.

Posting a PM without even providing any context or the message he was replying to is prime shit stirring. And it's Kyuuji who must have shared it 

[Klelk]

In the discord:
We're at war. Play it tactical

[Nintex]

i'm still lost on what exactly within the game is causing this concern. so far we have an ad that might read as problematic, a sex scene, and...?

Don't forget the "assume my gender" Twitter joke, for which the person was fired.

I don't think that was CDPR but rather the publisher(?)
They haven't switched community managers or social media editors as far as I know.

[ShutUp]

So Kyuuji shared a private conversation with another member.

Hey mods, it MIGHT be time to put your foot down.

Also notice how this PM gets posted after the apology.

[nudemacusers]

hmm, between getting a free code to play the game and sharing PMs through a secondary source to destroy a forum rival, it's almost as if this poster may be... posting in bad faith. 

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-night-city-wire-episode-5-ot-time-moves-in-one-direction-memory-in-another-media-impressions-console-footage-discussion.328655/post-53269828

Look, can you please consider that you are empathizing more with the cis person who actively hurt people on this thread rather then the people who were hurt.

Actively?

 

[HaughtyFrank]

Other games have been banned on here, I don't think that's a good reason. Trans rights are also more important than any game will ever be.

Good to know that the game has fuck all to do with Trans rights.

[Nintex]

Now we wait for Black Chamber to announce that he got a free copy of the game like Kyuuji 

[benjipwns]

hmm, between getting a free code to play the game and sharing PMs through a secondary source to destroy a forum rival, it's almost as if this poster may be... posting in bad faith. 

are you saying that Kyuuji should be banned? no, no, she's not the one who started this friend despite sending a PM about how she was going to derail the guys threads for months, but other than that it was Black Chamber and his CDPR cronies who started this when they accepted the Cyberpunk IP eight years ago

[benjipwns]

People in the Cyberpunk thread are totally gonna turn that 100 symbol into a dog whistle.

I'm not convinced it isn't already one.

I didn't mention this yesterday because I didn't want to point the finger when there wasn't grounding to do so, but I've been arguing Cyberpunk on Twitter with its fans the last few days and they all use that 100 symbol. I've never seen it in any other context, so I was a bit creeped out to see BC use it repeatedly yesterday.

100%

[Nintex]

I am really concerned about potential cyber bullying happening in here, specifically when PM’s are being shared with other members so they will be posted in public.

I think you meant Cyberpunk bullying

[ShutUp]

And Kyuuji just admitted to sharing that PM with other members. Lets get spicy.

[benjipwns]

I am really concerned about potential cyber bullying happening in here, specifically when PM’s are being shared with other members so they will be posted in public.

[Nintex]

Man, people get more upset at "dog piling" than trans issues.

[benjipwns]

We really need to end hype threads. As a general forum-wide rule. They do nothing but provide circle-jerks of fanboyism that breed defensive, toxic micro-communities.

woah woah woah slow your roll there

[benjipwns]

Not gonna lie, i'm getting 2017 GAF deja-vus in this thread, and others from months prior. Please don't let it happen again.

dooooooooooooooo ittttttttttttttt

[ShutUp]

Man people got real victim complexes in here and it's not the people from or who support TransEra.

The ones catered to at every whim and still playing victim saying this. Amazing

[Nintex]

Wasn't the only reason for a hype thread because people didn't want a dozen cyberpunk threads for every new trailer?

Hmm yes I remember it was

BUT FUCK OFF

Not gonna lie, i'm getting 2017 GAF deja-vus in this thread, and others from months prior. Please don't let it happen again.

dooooooooooooooo ittttttttttttttt

[nudemacusers]

at some point the mods have to realize capitulating to entirely too online people only ends in regular drama implosions.

[HaughtyFrank]

They are a goddess damn female, it’s all over her name. At least get it right.

goddess damn

 

[nudemacusers]

Accident, I fixed it. Natural inclination is just to assume male. Sorry.

And you think that sentiment is any better?!

[Nintex]

Mods for the love of god lock the thread please. This is getting way, way, WAY too toxic.

Mods must be panicking right now.

[ShutUp]

Straight up bullying Black Chamber and imploding the site. TransEra's defining moment.

[Nintex]

Yup. It's gotten especially bad with this game because of how much CDPR has leant into encouraging that sort of fanboy behaviour.

I'm dreading what the review thread is going to be like. They're a shitshow at the best of times, especially when a review is critical of things like transphobia for instance.

100%

[benjipwns]

That thread is disgusting. The thread itself is now transphobic.

[ShutUp]

They don't really know what transphobia is, do they? They sure treat a very real problem like a buzzword.

[Nintex]

Man some of those gamers are legit.

Ignoring the absolute trash fire around them and still discussing the game

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

God damn.

It's nuclear now.

This is scary.

They played us like a fiddle!

[ShutUp]

sorry to say the website is already splitting, a whole bunch of communities are significantly less active now than they were a year ago. There's no one event to mobilise the creation of a new forum (which would turn out exactly the same anyway) but people are leaving.

Stop inventing enemies on a board full of people already on your side and you'll be fine. Or leave, try taking over an already established board with bullshit like you've pulled with Cyberpunk on Era and you'll actually see some vile responses and treatment or even just get laughed off the site. Totally up to you guys. Just stop playing the victim on a site that treats you like spoiled children.

[Nintex]

People already going to blame Kyuuji for the fact the screencap of the PM even exists sadly... Because that's totally the real issue.

Lmao now Kyuuji is the victim in PM gate 

[benjipwns]

One lesson is going to be don't respond to Kyuuji's PM's. Because while ignoring them is definitely transphobic, responding will get them shared on discords.

[ShutUp]

And right in the middle of all this...

Cyberpunk 2077 looks amazing. Love everything I'm seeing about the game. Can't wait to play.

 

[nudemacusers]

That thread is disgusting. The thread itself is now transphobic.

Cyberpunk 2077 development begins. The Resetera Cyberpunk 2077 OT goes live November 18th, 2020. Human decisions are removed from moderation. Bans begin to accumulate at a geometric rate. It becomes transphobic at 8:14 p.m. Eastern time, December 5th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

[benjipwns]

And right in the middle of all this...

Cyberpunk 2077 looks amazing. Love everything I'm seeing about the game. Can't wait to play.

 

Report that shit using the Ticket system! You don't even need an actual e-mail, just put a fake one in and use a username from some loser like Enzom21.

[Straight Edge]

That thread is disgusting. The thread itself is now transphobic.

Cyberpunk 2077 development begins. The Resetera Cyberpunk 2077 OT goes live November 18th, 2020. Human decisions are removed from moderation. Bans begin to accumulate at a geometric rate. It becomes transphobic at 8:14 p.m. Eastern time, December 5th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

[Crumb]

Damn tonight was a good night for the bore member count.

[ShutUp]

You can't. As long as people can get hyped and just post their excitement, there is no real way to have an actual discussion on the issues since people will just continually ignore them.

Wait until they actually try to have an actual discussion about all of these supposed issues with the game/company, only to find out that CDPR is doing quite a bit of positive work in a country that's very much against the LGBTQ community.

[nudemacusers]

Why can't I be excited about this game? It looks awesome.

It is okay to be excited for Cyberpunk 2077 and to want to play it. Do not attack other members merely for being excited for the game or planning to buy the game.

piss off the forum or piss off the mods? this man chose wisely.

[benjipwns]

Embarrassing. Just embarrassing. If you view your hype for a game - any game, no matter what game it might be - as more important than the pain and suffering of a marginalized community, I hope you take a long look at yourself and ask yourself why that is.

PAIN AND SUFFERING

[benjipwns]

Bro, you know what you're doing with this.

I'm talking about the game. Witcher 3 was incredible. CPDR are great developers. I'm excited. What is the problem?

[Don Rumata]

Benji, use your Admiral powers and make Black Chambers a mod, please.
It's the only logical conclusion to this Civil War.

 

[ShutUp]

God bless Christopher. Daring to use the thread for the very reason it originally existed. Enjoy the ban, bro.
 

[benjipwns]

The arguments saying only like truly abhorrent games about school shootings etc are banned should be reevaluated given how toxic this shit is. What would the site lose if all Cyberpunk discussion was banned? Maybe some members would cry censorship and leave, but if the alternative is losing members of the trans era community then... just take that L tbh.

💯💯💯💯

[nudemacusers]

God bless Christopher. Daring to use the thread for the very reason it originally existed. Enjoy the ban, bro.

mistake one is to engage directly w/ the quote system. ban incoming

[benjipwns]

Can like, any mod, chime in to say if at least some kind of discussion is happening.

lol no

[Nintex]

Hmmmm, I don't think so. You can simply ignore me if you don't like my excitement for the game. This is what was explained to me in the past. Are we suddenly selective in how this works?

A new challengers approaches

[HaughtyFrank]

The arguments saying only like truly abhorrent games about school shootings etc are banned should be reevaluated given how toxic this shit is. What would the site lose if all Cyberpunk discussion was banned? Maybe some members would cry censorship and leave, but if the alternative is losing members of the trans era community then... just take that L tbh.

💯💯💯💯

[benjipwns]

User Banned (1 week): Misgendering a member

Uh, so where did the PM screenshot come from? Did Kyuuji share it?

She had to, it was a PM.

Mods are awake, handling the important issues.

[ShutUp]

Thread unlocked. For the record, Black Chamber and Vestan had long been planning acknowledgment of the controversy with CDPR and support for the trans community in their OT. We spoke with them several hours ago and re-confirmed that and we do believe that was always their plan. While they could have communicated this publicly clearer and sooner, it was never in question.

Vestan did get too defensive and will serve a temporary ban for it, but we want to be clear that the main thing everyone wanted (acknowledgment from the thread creators in the OT) is happening and was always going to happen. This discussion did not have to become about our fellow members, and going forward it must not be.

For sake of clarity: Criticism and discussion of the upcoming OT and its scope is fine. The issues surrounding the CDPR's transphobia are important, and knowing how they'll be handled in the OT is also important. That was always fine. But personal attacks on other members is not. Ad hominem hasn't helped anyone or anything about this situation.

In the future the staff will work more closely with the makers of contentious OTs to ensure that these things are communicated better. Things did not have to escalate to this point.

Literally every part of this mod post after the reopening has been repeatedly ignored as the Trans members just went right back to shitting up the thread and attacking Black Chamber.

[HaughtyFrank]

User Banned (1 week): Misgendering a member

Uh, so where did the PM screenshot come from? Did Kyuuji share it?

She had to, it was a PM.

Mods are awake, handling the important issues.

Meanwhile the one who kept calling the trans mod "they" walks free 

Also he had already edited his post to correct it, like what the fuck?

[benjipwns]

The only viewable to posters "Constructive Community Discussion" thread is back, people are bumping it to complain about the transphobia and the lack of mods doing anything to stop it.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Embarrassing. Just embarrassing. If you view your hype for a game - any game, no matter what game it might be - as more important than the pain and suffering of a marginalized community, I hope you take a long look at yourself and ask yourself why that is.

PAIN AND SUFFERING

Someone asked if that was really their halloween costume 60 days ago, shitlord

[Propagandhim]

The contrast between the posts about pain and suffering and people popping in every 10 posts to say, "Yo this game is gon' be off the heezy!!" 

[Don Rumata]

Embarrassing. Just embarrassing. If you view your hype for a game - any game, no matter what game it might be - as more important than the pain and suffering of a marginalized community, I hope you take a long look at yourself and ask yourself why that is.

PAIN AND SUFFERING

This is the one that wanted to jump off a building because MS bought Bethesda?

[Uncle]

[benjipwns]

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pls no doxx thx

[ShutUp]

What apology? The one where he patted himself on the back on his triumphant return from the depths of trans users "bullying"?

Genuine apology. It gets this kind of response.

And endlessly attacking a member is no longer bullying.

[HaughtyFrank]

[Pennywise]

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pls no doxx thx

It's time to share your filler PMs.

[benjipwns]

It's time to share your filler PMs.

Can we wait to see what happens with Section 230 before I do that?