alright let's get a constitutional crisis up in this bitch
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Quote from: VanTellI am more surprised how the staff of ERA hasn't made a statement yet on this. Because I feel it is being buried again. Pretty sure some of 'em are actually hyped for their games still, so...
I am more surprised how the staff of ERA hasn't made a statement yet on this. Because I feel it is being buried again.
Quote from: Snoopycat_ on September 12, 2021, 12:14:11 PMQuote I think the only thing to be cautious of is that it seems like psychiatrists and Pediatricians are saying the adulthood really begins at 25 in the modern era, based on how 18-25 year olds actually behave and that’s it’s essentially an extended period of adolescence. I don’t think it’s “creepy” necessarily but you’d be at very different life stages. If the op wasn’t a lesbian they’d be screeching pedo. Instead they’re pulling out shite like this so they can insinuate it without getting bannedBlue is the warmest color, is the evidence i need to approve of this hook-up.
Quote I think the only thing to be cautious of is that it seems like psychiatrists and Pediatricians are saying the adulthood really begins at 25 in the modern era, based on how 18-25 year olds actually behave and that’s it’s essentially an extended period of adolescence. I don’t think it’s “creepy” necessarily but you’d be at very different life stages. If the op wasn’t a lesbian they’d be screeching pedo. Instead they’re pulling out shite like this so they can insinuate it without getting banned
I think the only thing to be cautious of is that it seems like psychiatrists and Pediatricians are saying the adulthood really begins at 25 in the modern era, based on how 18-25 year olds actually behave and that’s it’s essentially an extended period of adolescence. I don’t think it’s “creepy” necessarily but you’d be at very different life stages.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-insomniac-games-because-of-how-they-treat-women-ex-employee-speaks-out.233752/page-25#post-73236487
Like another poster said, is kind of fucked up how despite this still being a problem there is a thread in the front page whose only point is circlejerking about how great Insomniac is
Yeah couldn't help but roll my eyes.Lots of devs work on multiple games at a time.This doesn't warrant ignoring sexual harassment.
It does worry me that circlejerk and hype threads are still allowed for a lot of these studios who have had their skeletons in the closet exposed to the world, yet suddenly mod policy is to just let it slide because of the slippery slope fallicy.I mean, official policy is that Cyberpunk conversation has to be limited to the one thread, to avoid distressing anyone from the communities that CDPR negatively impacted. A policy I agree with.Yet Activision-Blizzard is guilty of not just crunch and transphobia, it's guilty of tax fraud via legal loop hole, victimisation of women and male staff priding themselves in the fact they commited it (What with things like the Bill Cosby Room.) And their apology involved using an infamous union buster of a lawfirm to "investivage" working conditions.But when demands were being made that Activision games be treated in kind, suddenly we have to be concerned where it will all end. Despite no conversation about a game being impacted, just that it would all have to go in one thread to avoid potentially distressing celebratory conversation for a problematic team hogging up the forum.And I bring this up because, as much as I love their output (I got a ps5 last month just for the new Ratchet and Clank.) Insomniac haven't really been put on any kind of blast for their bad behaviours.
Yeah, it's hard. I wish the admin team would at least have a conversation about this instead of just making that decision, while some of them don't participate in threads like this one while participating in hype threads. It's disheartening, to say the least.
I’m right there with you. Even trying to discuss the games (without actually buying them) felt wrong to me……at least unless I shine a very bright light on the current issues with the company. They really should be a discussion on limiting known problematic companies like ActiBlizz, Ubisoft, Insomniac, & more to a single thread (for each of them) like what happened with Cyberpunk. In those threads, they can clearly highlight the problems with each company & why they’ve been isolated to their respective threads. But that’s just my two cents on the matter.
Not happy with how the resetera team is handling this either. Pretty pathetic tbh
Yeah, the fact that it seems like the moderation team hasn't said or done anything makes it seem like they are just going to ignore it and sweep it under the rug.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-insomniac-games-because-of-how-they-treat-women-ex-employee-speaks-out.233752/page-25#post-73236487Quote from: Van Bur3nQuote from: VanTellI am more surprised how the staff of ERA hasn't made a statement yet on this. Because I feel it is being buried again. Pretty sure some of 'em are actually hyped for their games still, so...ERA mods are now tagged as being pro-worker abuse Wonder how long the mods can ignore this. Sure, the voices wanting the forum to ban entire publishers from it is small, but they are persistent and loud and are mostly part of the prominent, protected crew on the site. Then again, if there's one golden rule that even usually protected members can't break is criticizing the mods. Their paper-thin skin just can't take it. By the way, all of this could have been avoided if they'd just ignored Kyuuji regarding CP 2077 That is when this entire idea of banning entire publishers started.
EDIT: I literally just woke up and I apologize for being short.Literally every publisher and studio in the industry is guilty of misogyny and sexism. There isn't a single one that hasn't had someone come forward against them. Ubisoft, Riot, Insomniac, Microsoft, Naughty Dog, the list goes on and on and on. Big publishers and independent developers both. This is systemic across the entire industry. Banning just one publisher/studio and not all of the others sends a message that we only care about this when it gets particularly bad. It's wholly unacceptable regardless of who does it.Banning just Acti/Blizz sends the message that it's just them that's the problem. They aren't the only ones. It's everyone. Every game we enjoy is tainted by this, there is no getting around that or minimizing it. This is why we pointed people towards charities to help women because this is a systemic problem. You cannot pretend it's just Acti/Blizz because it isn't. You don't get to write this off as just a single studio or publisher.
B-dubs has made a statement:https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-isnt-activision-ubisoft-discussion-limited-to-about-their-work-cultures.465195/#post-70571883Quote from: B-DubsEDIT: I literally just woke up and I apologize for being short.Literally every publisher and studio in the industry is guilty of misogyny and sexism. There isn't a single one that hasn't had someone come forward against them. Ubisoft, Riot, Insomniac, Microsoft, Naughty Dog, the list goes on and on and on. Big publishers and independent developers both. This is systemic across the entire industry. Banning just one publisher/studio and not all of the others sends a message that we only care about this when it gets particularly bad. It's wholly unacceptable regardless of who does it.Banning just Acti/Blizz sends the message that it's just them that's the problem. They aren't the only ones. It's everyone. Every game we enjoy is tainted by this, there is no getting around that or minimizing it. This is why we pointed people towards charities to help women because this is a systemic problem. You cannot pretend it's just Acti/Blizz because it isn't. You don't get to write this off as just a single studio or publisher.
I had a Greek classmate and he went to Greece to visit family and said they’d never seen deodorant before and tried to eat his Also his sister tried to trade blowjobs for Pokémon cards. I wisely kept my Pokémon cards
Out of interest what do you want the team here to do?
No idea, but I think an active thread warning on top of each thread (instead of on the bottom) and a stickied thread about abuses from IG and other companies would be the bare minimum. It's kinda crazy that only this thread is where I learned about this and not from actual media outlets. Whole issue feels ignored.
Bare minimum, they should put a staff notation in every Insomniac thread pointing out the shit going on at the company (ideally at the top).What should be done is limit all Insomniac talk to either 1 compressive thread or 2-3 threads for each game similar to what was done for Cyberpunk. But the same could be said of ActiBlizz & Ubisoft, which sadly didn’t happen.
why is nobody contacting them or @ them?is it because people are afraid of getting banned?
It should be called out but to utter the word “Insomniac” under the same breath as Activision Blizzard is an exaggeration. Unless more people come out and employees start having walk outs at the company it’s not even comparable. If Era mods didn’t do something about Activision games’ threads I don’t see how expecting that for Insomniac is realistic.
Unfortunately, the only reason we know as much as we do about the shit going on at Activision Blizzard is because of the lawsuit. Likewise, the bare minimum suggestion I made is something that’s already being applied to Activision Blizzard threads, that being putting a notation of what’s going on at Insomniac.This point, I just want justice for the victims & for more people to be aware of what’s going on.
Did anyone create a moderation ticket yet? If not, I'm considering it to at least ask what they have considered doing and what are their plans regarding Insomniac.
Don't listen to him Potato. Us southern euros taught them cavebeasts how to bathe.
potato is black
Only one part of my body
i think you missed the part where she said she was "ace" and that there'd be no sexy time for them. Not sure the younger grill is aware of this yet.
User Banned (Permanent): Racism, account in junior phase
Did you think the devs were insensitive in their portrayal of the Norse and Greek gods or can only non whites be culturally offended?
I used Propagandhim's AI at https://artflow.ai/ to generate a photo of the users they banfinally we can see who is getting kicked off resetera(Image removed from quote.)
We met online, will probably never meet in person. We do not work for the same company.
QuoteThat cat jinxed the Giants. They choked right after.This joke is actively harmful to black cats and leads to them being mistreated and statistically adopted less so more often killed in shelters.
That cat jinxed the Giants. They choked right after.
For fuck's sake -QuoteWe met online, will probably never meet in person. We do not work for the same company.
I'm ace so there won't be any sex between us regardless of if we end up together or not, just romance
So a sexless, long distance "romance", where they will probably never meet. Sounds pretty cool.Also how do asexuals flirt?
When threads like these about serious allegations against publishers and developers are constantly getting derailed by arguments over whether threads about games should be banned here or not, to the point where the topic in the OP itself is virtually ignored, then there's a problem.People aren't discussing the case or the industry-wide issues or productive ways to make a difference. They've been taking shots at each other, shots at the staff, and competing to throw around the most inflammatory accusations they can think of.That's going to stop. We have these threads to discuss these issues because they're important, and we allow these issues to be raised in threads related to these companies and games because that's important. Discussion about these issues are being suffocated by the constant derailments and infighting.Derailing this thread or similarly sensitive threads with demands for blanket bans will not influence moderation policy. Please get back to discussing the allegations in the OP and cease the derails and arguments about banning games; further derails will be actioned as such.
Let me add this: harassing or making insinuations toward female posters, who do nothing other than show excitement about games from these sorts of studios, about not caring about sexism and sexual assault is so far beyond acceptable that I cannot even begin to quantify it.Anyone doing that is eating a ban. I don't care if you think you had good intentions, I should not need to explain how bad it is.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/god-of-war-ragnarok-is-the-end-of-the-norse-saga-can-kratos-fight-other-cultures-pantheons-w-o-ugly-racial-and-cultural-undertones.485176/page-2#post-73169698QuoteUser Banned (Permanent): Racism, account in junior phaseQuote from: bodine1231Did you think the devs were insensitive in their portrayal of the Norse and Greek gods or can only non whites be culturally offended?
It would definitely be culturally insensitive if they show Kratos violently killing Buddha or the Prophet Muhammed but I'm not sure if it would be culturally inappropriate if say several Roman gods were killed (oh shit maybe SSM should do a Roman series next). The difference here is that Roman gods are remnants of an ancient civilization that have long collapsed whereas Buddha and Muhammed are both very relevant and culturally important figures to billions of people across the globe.
Sure, but they have rechanged mythological origins so you can play around with another set without the risk of offending someone.
People aren't discussing the case or the industry-wide issues or productive ways to make a difference. ... Please get back to discussing the allegations in the OP and cease the derails and arguments about banning games;
b-dubs' entire post boils down to "it's off topic"ok then, we'll just make an on-topic thread dedicated to getting the publisher banned from era
Please do not make reaction threads
I wonder if the "Every X does Y, so we can't hold it against X" excuse will hold up elsewhere, or will that just be memory-holed and it's back to "dismissing whatever for whateverism" as a ban excuse if someone tries and pulls a B-Dubs.
Why do you think no football players are coming out ?Why do you think some plays have to be cancelled ?It's not about saying "not all gamers", I give no fucks, people are trash. But I feel like people are dangerously forgetting terrible things happening elsewhere and say "it's fine there !" when it's not.
Lets see what happens when someone else says "it's bad everywhere"Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/steam-has-a-right-wing-extremism-racism-problem-on-their-discussion-forums-that-needs-to-be-addressed.485398/post-73215859Why do you think no football players are coming out ?Why do you think some plays have to be cancelled ?It's not about saying "not all gamers", I give no fucks, people are trash. But I feel like people are dangerously forgetting terrible things happening elsewhere and say "it's fine there !" when it's not.User Banned (Duration Pending): Concern trolling and whataboutism in a sensitive thread regarding bigotry in the gaming community, numerous previous infractions for trolling and antagonizing. And unlike B-chud he wasn't even arguing for inaction
I mean, this is gaslighting and why we have the problems we have today. The gaming community is uniquely terrible. Yes, there’s bigots everywhere, but they -thrive- in gaming communities because the gaming community does not give one fuck. Like she said, she turns on her mic and suddenly the hate flies. That’s what it’s like to be a marginalized gamer, its not the same in any other medium even with their racism. Like, going back to football, the equivalent would be your teammates throwing you off the field the second they realized you were queer, not-white, or female.
I knew this was going to happen when twitter leftists were using "woke" unironically.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/not-a-day-goes-by-that-i-am-not-amused-at-white-people-and-bigots-have-co-opted-woke.485587/Quote from: Slayven I knew this was going to happen when twitter leftists were using "woke" unironically.
I wasn't going to say it, but I agree. People that make ONE thing(religon, anime, magic the gathering, gaming, etc) the center of who they are always give me red flags
https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-partake-in-the-trainwreck-which-is-90-day-fiance.126758/post-72316570QuoteI wasn't going to say it, but I agree. People that make ONE thing(religon, anime, magic the gathering, gaming, etc) the center of who they are always give me red flags(Image removed from quote.) Apologies to any 50 posts per day brehs.
User banned (2 weeks): Baiting other members over sensitive topics. Recently banned for comparing members to fascists over how often they shower
Quote from: AngieThey are saying all the right things.Cool. Here is hoping they will do the right thing too.https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-insomniac-games-because-of-how-they-treat-women-ex-employee-speaks-out.233752/page-25
They are saying all the right things.
Quote from: Mammoth JonesI mean there’s a history you’re glossing over to feign outrage over the points being raised.So fuck the fake anger “from a mod no less!!”. Go learn the history and historical context that’s been referenced then get back to us.Lmao, go teach someone else your lessons.I see the daily shower fascist brigade is at full force today 😂
I mean there’s a history you’re glossing over to feign outrage over the points being raised.So fuck the fake anger “from a mod no less!!”. Go learn the history and historical context that’s been referenced then get back to us.
User banned (2 weeks): inflammatory commentary, comparing random people in an argument to fascists is not ok
I had a Greek classmate and he went to Greece to visit family and said they’d never seen deodorant before and tried to eat his
https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-curtain-divides-male-female-students-as-afghan-universities-reopen.485701/Most of this thread is about the use of the word 'female' in the article, rather than education in Afghanistan.It's a perfect little microcosm of the modern left.
But maybe I should stop nitpicking. The more important part is that this is happening at all.
