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« Reply #360 on: March 11, 2007, 09:01:14 AM »
28 Days Later... (Boyle, 2002) - 8/10

Probably my favorite movie in one of my least favorite genres - zombie flicks. Usually the cheesiness of these types of movies, the over-the-top gore, bad acting, and even worse writing, is what turns me away. I realize these things are sort of part of the package when it comes to these movies, but I guess that is why I'm never in a rush to receive such a package. Writer Alex Garland and director Danny Boyle manage to successfully avoid most of these genre traps, and craft something more down to earth, with more plausibility than the set-up for most zombie movies. That realism only serves to add to the isolated and haunting feel of the movie. I like the decision to shoot the movie like a documentary, complete with grainy, low-budget visuals and natural lighting. I also really like the casting. Between Cillian Murphy, Naomie Harris, and Christopher Eccleston, Boyle has assembled some of my favorite talent from the United Kingdom, and they all perform very well. The movie does offer up several good scares of the "boo!" variety, but it mostly draws fear from the psychological standpoint, and those types of movies are always my preferred ones in the horror genre. Another very good movie from Danny Boyle, who has yet to really let me down.

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« Reply #361 on: March 11, 2007, 09:14:37 AM »
28 Days Later?  God, I thought that movie was awful.  A friend of mine who likes the zombie genre and I went to see it in a theater, and we were so bored during it.  It basically touched on a lot of things that'd been touched on before, its only 'improvements' to the genre were "fast" zombies, and a plausible reason for the "rage plague"...eliminating the creepy supernatural aspect that makes these movies so cool in the first place.

I give it a 5/10.
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« Reply #362 on: March 11, 2007, 09:27:00 AM »
Uh huh.

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« Reply #363 on: March 11, 2007, 09:29:24 AM »
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« Reply #364 on: March 11, 2007, 09:50:24 AM »
Fucktard? Grow up. I am done with this "dispute" we had, but like usual, you're making it your mission to make a post right me basically stating the exact opposite/trying to make my views seem wrong (witness this thread and the GONY thread in the last, what, 10 minutes?). That was my motivation behind the "uh huh". If you didn't like the movie, that is fine, I have no problems with that. Free country and all. Its just that you for whatever reason love to hold these personal grudges, and I cant help but see that you've posted right after me and think "gee, what is Ichirou gonna say this time?". I have offered to end this petty tiff a bunch of times now, yet you seem content to keep that hatchet above ground.

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« Reply #365 on: March 11, 2007, 09:55:14 AM »
Fucktard? Grow up. I am done with this "dispute" we had, but like usual, you're making it your mission to make a post right me basically stating the exact opposite/trying to make my views seem wrong (witness this thread and the GONY thread in the last, what, 10 minutes?). That was my motivation behind the "uh huh". If you didn't like the movie, that is fine, I have no problems with that. Free country and all. Its just that you for whatever reason love to hold these personal grudges, and I cant help but see that you've posted right after me and think "gee, what is Ichirou gonna say this time?". I have offered to end this petty tiff a bunch of times now, yet you seem content to keep that hatchet above ground.

Uh huh.
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« Reply #366 on: March 11, 2007, 09:58:02 AM »
Again your rationality and maturity shine through. Since you obviously dont want to end this, why not just post in other threads, namely ones without my name in the very title? I think we can easily co-exist by ignoring eachother.

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« Reply #367 on: March 11, 2007, 10:00:06 AM »
Again your rationality and maturity shine through. Since you obviously dont want to end this, why not just post in other threads, namely ones without my name in the very title? I think we can easily co-exist by ignoring eachother.

Yeah, now you see how annoying replying with a simple fucking "Uh huh" is, right?  I wasn't trying to challenge your "view" on 28 Days Later, I was offering my own differing opinion.  I wasn't expecting a reply from you, much less a condescending "uh huh."  I'll post in whatever thread I want, and since this is one of the more active threads related to movies, I'll keep posting here.
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« Reply #368 on: March 11, 2007, 10:02:18 AM »
Fine. Can you at least try to keep your personal contempt out of things? Other than that, I have no problems with you, as you do offer some of the better insight and knowledge to movies around here, when youre not making personal attacks.

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« Reply #369 on: March 11, 2007, 10:06:48 AM »
The 'improvements' line wasn't even a dig at your review, it's the mainstream view of the film, and one which I totally disagree with.  The origins of the zombie film date back to the '40s, and the films of Jacques Tourneur.  The basis is in voodoo and the culture and superstitions of Haiti, and the Romero films themselves maintain an aura of the supernatural about them, since they never make it completely clear what brought the dead back to life.  28 Days Later eschews that aspect completely in favor of the totally banal disease angle, and I think it hurts the picture, and the genre.
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« Reply #370 on: March 11, 2007, 10:09:57 AM »
Fair enough. I actually felt getting rid of the supernatural elements, and basing the "zombie" creation on a viral outbreak, was something that I was much more willing to buy into as a viewer. But, like I said, zombie movies have NEVER been amongst my favorites, so Im probably looking for something different then what they generally offer.

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« Reply #371 on: March 11, 2007, 10:12:11 AM »
Removing the supernatural element weakens the picture, I believe.  What was going through my mind as I was watching the film was the idea that these plague-ridden zombies were obviously stupid creatures and eventually they'd die of starvation, and all the main characters had to do was wait it out.
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« Reply #372 on: March 11, 2007, 10:15:34 AM »
The most interesting zombie film since Romero's heyday has been The Serpent and the Rainbow, which deals with the whole voodoo aspect I was talking about that most zombie films have completely abandoned.
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« Reply #373 on: March 11, 2007, 10:16:21 AM »
True, but then I've yet to see genuinely "smart" Zombies. I think Romero was trying to go that way somewhat in Land Of The Dead, but I dont think it worked.

EDIT: havent seen that movie.

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« Reply #374 on: March 11, 2007, 10:20:53 AM »
The Serpent and the Rainbow is an '80s movie...I haven't seen it in over ten years so I don't know how well it has aged, but I remember it being extremely unsettling.
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« Reply #375 on: March 11, 2007, 10:22:25 AM »
I guess when it comes to horror my bias' tend to slant more towards the psychological variety, and also slasher films. I mean, I still consider Halloween to be my favorite horror movie.

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« Reply #376 on: March 11, 2007, 10:24:16 AM »
My bias tends towards horror comedies like Evil Dead or Dead/Alive, but I also enjoy being genuinely creeped out - Jacob's Ladder, The Serpent and the Rainbow, The Exorcist, and to a lesser extent The Ring.
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« Reply #377 on: March 11, 2007, 10:26:48 AM »
Jacob's Ladder is also a favorite, as is The Exorcist. Right up there with Halloween and The Thing. Pretty much whatever Carpenter was doing around the mid-70's to mid-80's I was digging. I love The Fog too, but its definately a lesser film to his other horror ventures. I loved In The Mouth Of Madness too.

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« Reply #378 on: March 11, 2007, 10:31:18 AM »
Jacob's Ladder is also a favorite, as is The Exorcist. Right up there with Halloween and The Thing. Pretty much whatever Carpenter was doing around the mid-70's to mid-80's I was digging. I love The Fog too, but its definately a lesser film to his other horror ventures. I loved In The Mouth Of Madness too.

I lent my tape of In The Mouth of Madness to one of my college professors and he lent me Jacob's Ladder.  He told me he thought ITMOM was weak and cliched...I think he didn't get the numerous Stephen King/H.P. Lovecraft references, so I was a bit disappointed at his reaction.  It's basically a homage to those two writers.
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« Reply #379 on: March 11, 2007, 10:41:58 AM »
whats going on in this thread

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« Reply #380 on: March 11, 2007, 10:49:58 AM »
Argument -> Zombie love

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« Reply #381 on: March 11, 2007, 10:54:52 AM »
whats going on in this thread

The backstory is that I was riding Solo's ass for a while 'cuz he saw about 15 movies theatrically last year, which pissed him off (for the record, I saw way less than him last year), we got into an argument, we were both still kind of pissed at each other, I replied to his review of 28 Days Later, he thought I was making a personal dig at him and made a snarky reply, I insulted him, we almost got into another argument, but then were brought together again by our mutual love of movies.  :heartbeat
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« Reply #382 on: March 11, 2007, 10:58:02 AM »
Wait, what?  :lol You saw less than me at the theatres, and this whole argument was for nothing? Oogami, you so crazy!  :P

Also, the point I never felt I got across in that argument well enough is that 95% of the time, I wait for the DVD. Its not like Im skipping these theatrical showings and missing the movie forever or something. I generally go to the theatres for the big budget blockbuster stuff that needs to be seen on the big screen. Comedies, dramas, etc, I can wait for the DVD and watch from the comfort of my home.

Anyways its all in the past now. I am on pace to have my best theatrical year in some time though. 5 movies in the 3 worst months of the year is quite a few for me. Probably wont see anything else til Spidey in May though.

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« Reply #383 on: March 11, 2007, 11:01:35 AM »
Movies in Japan are like $20, so nobody wants to go with me.  I'd go once a week if I could, but my female friends only go during the week so they pay less (wednesday is lady's day so they can watch movies for half price or something) and I work late on weekdays so I can't leave in time to watch a movie and catch the train afterwards.  I saw like 3 movies theatrically last year.

I think I mentioned it in the same thread where you said you saw 15 movies last year.  That's why I initially didn't get why you were pissed off - I thought it was obvious I was mostly just riding your ass.
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« Reply #384 on: March 11, 2007, 11:04:33 AM »
Apparently I can't detect sarcasm, and you take jokes too far.

All is forgiven  :heartbeat

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« Reply #385 on: March 11, 2007, 11:09:19 AM »
I really want to see more movies theatrically this year.  I'm really pissed that my friends went to see The Departed without me just so they could save a few bucks by seeing it during a weekday.  Now I have to wait for the Japanese DVD.  >:(
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« Reply #386 on: March 11, 2007, 11:34:02 AM »
Scorsese will have made his next movie by the time you see TD, Oogami  :lol

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« Reply #387 on: March 11, 2007, 07:00:07 PM »
No way!  I'm thinking of just buying the US DVD from Amazon and having it shipped to Japan (I think they can do that).
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« Reply #388 on: March 11, 2007, 08:03:47 PM »
hey Ichirou, have you seen or are going to check out the new Ghengis Khan flick, Ryu Ga Gotoku, or Dorororo?

If I were living in Japan, I'd be taking advantage of the local cinema and such, heck, any video rental place in Japan probably has more good Asian cinema then you could find in almost any American store.  So quit wasting time worrying about inferior remakes and go see something us stateside nerds could only hope to get when you do.

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« Reply #389 on: March 11, 2007, 08:05:19 PM »
The Departed is far from an inferior remake, and most GOOD Japanese films are readily available in the US.
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« Reply #390 on: March 11, 2007, 08:12:00 PM »
Its a plenty good movie, but it sure as heck ain't better then Inferal Affairs.

And I just asked about three new releases that came out in Japan that won't hit America for months, maybe even longer.  And yeah, every good Japanese and Asian film is widely available in America, yep, no problem whatsoever with foreign film distribution in America, not even the slightest.  Nope, not at all.

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« Reply #391 on: March 11, 2007, 08:13:44 PM »
Aw, someone's mad about their crappy IA coverart and yellow subtitles :(

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« Reply #392 on: March 11, 2007, 08:44:12 PM »
Someone said Ryu Ga Gotoku is the weakest Miike film.  ??? I hope it's not true because I'm excited for it because I like the game a lot.
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« Reply #393 on: March 11, 2007, 08:44:36 PM »
IA is cheesey

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« Reply #394 on: March 11, 2007, 08:45:51 PM »
IA is cheesey

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« Reply #395 on: March 11, 2007, 08:46:41 PM »
Hi2u my second account.  :shh

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« Reply #396 on: March 11, 2007, 08:55:04 PM »
IA had Anthony Wong and subtly, which was kinda nice.  I don't want this to be a Departed/Infernal Affairs battle, lets just agree they both are pretty dang good films.

shame about Ryu Ga Gotoku.  But I refuse to believe its the worst Miike film ever, just because that guy has made a hellava lot of shit.  Interesting and well shot shit, but shit nonetheless.

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« Reply #397 on: March 11, 2007, 09:22:53 PM »
hey Ichirou, have you seen or are going to check out the new Ghengis Khan flick, Ryu Ga Gotoku, or Dorororo?

If I were living in Japan, I'd be taking advantage of the local cinema and such, heck, any video rental place in Japan probably has more good Asian cinema then you could find in almost any American store.  So quit wasting time worrying about inferior remakes and go see something us stateside nerds could only hope to get when you do.

Is Ryu Ga Gotoku even going to make it to theaters?  Most Miike stuff is straight to video.
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« Reply #398 on: March 11, 2007, 09:24:21 PM »
When's Miike's sushi-western gonna hit the states? Sounds like it could be fucking great. :hyper
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« Reply #399 on: March 11, 2007, 09:30:51 PM »
When's Miike's sushi-western gonna hit the states? Sounds like it could be fucking great. :hyper

That's going to be a bizarre movie.
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« Reply #400 on: March 11, 2007, 09:31:46 PM »
When's Miike's sushi-western gonna hit the states? Sounds like it could be fucking great. :hyper

That's going to be a bizarre awesome movie.

Fixed for accuracy. It could very well be the greatest thing we've ever seen.
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« Reply #401 on: March 11, 2007, 09:34:04 PM »
"Is Ryu Ga Gotoku even going to make it to theaters?  Most Miike stuff is straight to video."

[/quote]Its in theaters now, and its a fairly limited release and isn't doing so hot.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2007&wk=9&p=.htm
If you're going to see it in a theater, better go soon.

and the last foreign made Westerns weren't exactly outstanding (The Proposition, Blueberry), and I just know there's going to be shitloads of engrish in it.  I'm wary, but hey, it could very well be awesome.  Watching a Miike film is like rolling some dice.

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« Reply #402 on: March 11, 2007, 09:35:28 PM »
Wait, what?! :(
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« Reply #403 on: March 11, 2007, 09:40:42 PM »
"Is Ryu Ga Gotoku even going to make it to theaters?  Most Miike stuff is straight to video."

Its in theaters now, and its a fairly limited release and isn't doing so hot.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan/?yr=2007&wk=9&p=.htm
If you're going to see it in a theater, better go soon.

and the last foreign made Westerns weren't exactly outstanding (The Proposition, Blueberry), and I just know there's going to be shitloads of engrish in it.  I'm wary, but hey, it could very well be awesome.  Watching a Miike film is like rolling some dice.

sorry, I suck at internets.

I liked The Proposition a lot....
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« Reply #404 on: March 11, 2007, 09:55:31 PM »
I loved the performances, the cinematography, I really liked the discordant and dreamy tone it took on.  There were many things I really liked about it, but it just didn't click for me.

I don't quite know how to explain it, but it was one of those well made movies that I felt very little for, like Cronenberg's Spider or some of Robert Altman's(but not all) stuff.

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« Reply #405 on: March 12, 2007, 07:56:34 AM »
Spider-Man 2 (Raimi, 2004) - 9/10

After giving this my first re-watch in over a year, I definately can say it is still my favorite of all the super-hero movies yet released. It pretty much has everything I could possibly ask for in this type of movie. It surpasses the original in every area, the new villain is fleshed out and given some real personality, the stunts are bigger and better, the screenplay is much better, as are the effects and cinematography. The movie also packs an emotional punch that the first didn't deliver on. Most importantly, I think the movie works wonderfully as a film, period, without constraining it to the genre of super-hero movies. The set-up, conflict, and resolution are much better than we see in many other Hollywood dramas. Peter actually has a well-defined character arc and journey that he takes in the movie. It also is a perfect example of a cliff-hanger ending done right, by throwing us a bone, but leaving the audience salivating for the third movie. People complain about these movies being cheesey and sentimental, but that is part of the appeal for me. From what I understand, they are very true to the source. For my myself personally, I really like that Raimi is trying to make movies and develop a character about honor, responsibility, and doing the right thing. Simple themes, yes, but timeless ones that are often forgetten these days. Comic book movie perfection in my eyes.

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« Reply #406 on: March 12, 2007, 07:59:47 AM »
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Most importantly, I think the movie works wonderfully as a film, period, without constraining it to the genre of super-hero movies. The set-up, conflict, and resolution are much better than we see in many other Hollywood dramas. Peter Bruce actually has a well-defined character arc and journey that he takes in the movie. It also is a perfect example of a cliff-hanger ending done right, by throwing us a bone, but leaving the audience salivating for the third second movie.

Two changes and I would have thought you were talking about BB, not Spider-Man. Sure, the Spider-Man series is a whole lot better than most comic book movies, but it FEELS too much like a comic book movie to really "work wonderfully as a film, period."

BTW, why do you dislike Batman Begins?
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« Reply #407 on: March 12, 2007, 08:15:54 AM »
I don't, as I have said many times. I just don't worship it or find it a flawless movie as many on the internet do. It has an absolutely fantastic first hour, but it all falls apart for me when he becomes Batman. The third act just turns the movie into a generic action flick. The final scenes help to redeem it a bit, but the picture on the whole has lots of problems for me. Spidey 2 isn't flawless either, obviously, but I feel it makes fewer missteps, and engages me more, and the emotional peaks resonate more with me. They are both are the pinnacle of the genre, but Spider-Man 2 is the better film to me.

Also, I dont think S-M is anywheres near the top. S-M2, for me, was a quantum leap.

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« Reply #408 on: March 12, 2007, 08:26:53 AM »
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Spidey 2 isn't flawless either, obviously, but I feel it makes fewer missteps, and engages me more, and the emotional peaks resonate more with me.

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« Reply #409 on: March 12, 2007, 08:52:30 AM »
Batman will have a near perfect trilogy barring some unforseen problem, Spider-Man will have one fantastic film and two average at best ones(you KNOW the third has no hope of topping 2).

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« Reply #410 on: March 12, 2007, 08:53:49 AM »
Batman's had like 5 movies...

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« Reply #411 on: March 12, 2007, 08:56:53 AM »
Batman will have a near perfect trilogy barring some unforseen problem, Spider-Man will have one fantastic film and two average at best ones(you KNOW the third has no hope of topping 2).

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« Reply #412 on: March 12, 2007, 09:05:26 AM »
Lets wait until, you know, BB2 and 3 are out before we crown that trilogy. Other than that, I would agree. Spidey has had one decent movie, one fantastic movie, and the third looks like an oncoming trainwreck. BB has had one great movie, and we dont have a clue about the other 2.

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« Reply #413 on: March 12, 2007, 09:06:42 AM »
As long as Nolan and Bale are on for another two, there is no doubt in my mind that they will be fantastic.
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« Reply #414 on: March 12, 2007, 09:11:02 AM »
The potential problems lie more in the writing than the cast and director.

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« Reply #415 on: March 12, 2007, 09:14:09 AM »
Who needs a script? I could watch Bale do his taxes for an hour and a half and it would still be a great film.
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« Reply #416 on: March 12, 2007, 09:16:07 AM »
If the screenplay for BB was garbage, you're not sitting here today joygasming over it and its upcoming sequels. So I would say that you should care.

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« Reply #417 on: March 12, 2007, 09:18:09 AM »
If the screenplay for BB was garbage, you're not sitting here today joygasming over it and its upcoming sequels. So I would say that you should care.

If Bale hadn't been cast, maybe. ::)
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« Reply #418 on: March 12, 2007, 09:22:32 AM »
So basically you are saying that if Bale was in Batman and Robin, it would have been a masterpiece.

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« Reply #419 on: March 12, 2007, 09:23:17 AM »
So basically you are saying that if Bale was in Batman and Robin, it would have been a masterpiece.

You bet. :punch
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