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Most underrated movie of all time?
« on: April 22, 2007, 10:28:53 PM »


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When I'm not masturbating or studying my mind often wanders off as I ask questions that truly challenge my mind. Why haven't we found human and dinosaur fossils together yet? Who would win in a rap battle, Young Jeezy or Dr. Seuss? But most importantly, why did so many people hate Hook? It's not a great movie, but I found it to be quite enjoyable.

I'm not a big fan of Robin Williams but he brought his A game as Peter Pan. Dustin Hoffman was great as Hook, and Bob Hoskins stole the show as Smeeeee. In fact, Julia Roberts was in the movie too, in full dyke glory


Many movies often deal with the idea of characters running from or trying to forget their past, and what movie does this better than Hook? This is where Hook really shines in my opinion. The audience is never beaten over the head with this concept either -instead of being told that the older Peter has changed, you get to make up your own mind about it. This is what seperates Hook and Unforgiven. In Hook Robin Williams doesn't tell you "I used to be a no good son of a bitch child kidnapper flyin through London...but the LSAT and bar straightened me up good..." over and over again. No, instead the movie makes you think. Would Peter Pan miss his kid's baseball game? Of course not. Clearly he's a changed man.

But can he be turned back into Peter Pan when the time comes? That is the question, and it is answered in this wonderfully fun movie. The movie becomes a personal journey as Peter slowly begins to recognize who he really is. This is best demonstrated in this dinner scene:
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Just believe. What a powerful sentiment.

The movie also introduces many great characters. The most impressive of course has to be Rufio, the spunky asian who takes over in Pan's absense from Neverland.



A true badass, Rufio seems almost out of place in this children's movie - I get the feeling that he would have fit in perfectly in an 80's action movie like Predator or even Commando. He brings a level of maturity and sadness to the movie - and by sadness I'm referring to his tragic end at the hand (well, hook) of Captain Hook. I would have loved to see a Rufio spin off, like a prequel or something.

But for me, the movie is most memorable for the amazing John Willams score. The score is easily one of Williams's best, and perhaps his best since the Indiana Jones movies; it's definitely better than the more recognizable scores from ET and Superman imo. Truly brilliant work from the Mozart of our time.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2007, 10:30:11 PM »
How is this underrated? Wasn't this very popular with our age group?
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2007, 10:31:46 PM »
Dude, I hate to tell you, but Hook is fucking awful in all regards.  Robin Williams is worse than Hitler.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2007, 10:32:53 PM »
I loved it as a kid.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2007, 10:33:07 PM »
Dude, I hate to tell you, but Hook is fucking awful in all regards.  Robin Williams is worse than Hitler.

I would say that Hook is a 7.5/10. A very fun movie that's enjoyable on every level
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 10:33:53 PM »
Anyway, everybody knows the best movie of all time is Revenge of the Nerds.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2007, 10:34:56 PM »
Anyway, everybody knows the best movie of all time is Revenge of the Nerds.

PD could learn a thing or two from that movie. Take the pussy from the jocks is what I say.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2007, 10:35:21 PM »
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2007, 10:35:42 PM »
I love this movie as a kid.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2007, 10:35:55 PM »
rambo iii >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hook
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2007, 10:36:03 PM »
Anyway, everybody knows the best movie of all time is Revenge of the Nerds.

Animal House is a funny classic that actually lives up to its billing as a funny classic. The same can't be said of most "funny classics", most notably A Princess Bride and Blues Brothers.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2007, 10:36:41 PM »
How the hell can you hate on A Princess Bride?

I bet you hate Coming To America or Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2007, 10:37:41 PM »
How the hell can you hate on A Princess Bride?

I bet you hate Coming To America.

Coming To America is a good movie - a good funny movie that's hilarious. A Princess Bride is horriblely overrated. If Hook is the most underrated movie of all time, A Princess Bride is the most overrated movie of all time.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2007, 10:39:06 PM »
Anyway, everybody knows the best movie of all time is Revenge of the Nerds.

Animal House is a funny classic that actually lives up to its billing as a funny classic. The same can't be said of most "funny classics", most notably A Princess Bride and Blues Brothers.

Blues Brothers isn't funny?  Are you a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow?  And a Princess Bride is more of an adventure movie with a bit of everything than it is a comedy.

Revenge of the Nerds is no Animal House, but it's a great 80s comedy.  Comedies were so much better in the 80s.  They always had characters that people could relate to, they were always vaguely optimistic, and they didn't rely on hack camwhores like Will Ferrel.  70s and 80s comics are by far better than any comedies released today.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2007, 10:42:25 PM »
Anyway, everybody knows the best movie of all time is Revenge of the Nerds.

Animal House is a funny classic that actually lives up to its billing as a funny classic. The same can't be said of most "funny classics", most notably A Princess Bride and Blues Brothers.

Blues Brothers isn't funny?  Are you a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow?  And a Princess Bride is more of an adventure movie with a bit of everything than it is a comedy.

Revenge of the Nerds is no Animal House, but it's a great 80s comedy.  Comedies were so much better in the 80s.  They always had characters that people could relate to, they were always vaguely optimistic, and they didn't rely on hack camwhores like Will Ferrel.  70s and 80s comics are by far better than any comedies released today.

Nah, it's not funny.

I haven't seen Revenge of the Nerds in ages. I remember loving it. The 80's were pretty awesome for many movie genres. Especially action
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2007, 10:45:24 PM »
Hook was boring.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2007, 10:47:13 PM »
Also, Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds is the greatest character in cinema history.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2007, 10:47:20 PM »
Hook is shit. Not even Spielberg likes it. Sorry PD, can't agree there.

Anyway I would say Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Yes, it's Harry Potter and got a lot of attention but all the book whores bitched like it was one of the worst things ever because of its differences to the book. Fuck that, judge a film based on filmmaking merit, not whether or not Hermione's crotch itch from chapter 17 made the cut.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2007, 10:51:53 PM »
Hook is shit. Not even Spielberg likes it. Sorry PD, can't agree there.

Anyway I would say Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Yes, it's Harry Potter and got a lot of attention but all the book whores bitched like it was one of the worst things ever because of its differences to the book. Fuck that, judge a film based on filmmaking merit, not whether or not Hermione's crotch itch from chapter 17 made the cut.

That movie was recepted by lots of positive critical praise. And for good reason - it was one of the best movies of that year
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2007, 10:54:05 PM »
Hmmm. I'm seeing a pattern with PD's movie choices. He tends to like fantasy movies...very cookie cutter and geared towards a younger group. Like a true form of escapism to some fantasy land, to forget his demons and homeschooling experiences. PEE DEE :wag :-\
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2007, 10:54:48 PM »
That movie was recepted by lots of positive critical praise. And for good reason - it was one of the best movies of that year

Yeah, it was, I guess I was just speaking personally as everytime I mention the movie in person to someone that has read the books they always get all antsy about it and I'm like wtf. The movie is amazing as well as its director.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2007, 10:55:57 PM »
my modern day top 5 films of all time in no order:

2001: A Space Odyssey
The Blues Brothers
The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
Raiders of the Lost Ark
To Kill A Mockingbird


Notice The Blues Brothers? That film has not a single flaw.

The Blues Brothers is single handily the best comedy film in the history of the medium. Totally and 100% flawless in every regard. Carrie Fisher as the crazed gun slingin' ex-gf. The AMAZING musical numbers. And the greatest car chase in the history of movies.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2007, 10:57:11 PM »
my modern day top 5 films of all time in no order:

2001: A Space Odyssey
The Blues Brothers
The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
Raiders of the Lost Ark
To Kill A Mockingbird


Notice The Blues Brothers? That film has not a single flaw.

The Blues Brothers is single handily the best comedy film in the history of the medium. Totally and 100% flawless in every regard. Carrie Fisher as the crazed gun slingin' ex-gf. The AMAZING musical numbers. And the greatest car chase in the history of movies.


2001: A Space Odyssey 7/10
The Blues Brothers 7/10
The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly 10/10
Raiders of the Lost Ark 10/10
To Kill A Mockingbird 10/10

To Kill A Mockingbird is my favorite movie
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2007, 10:58:24 PM »
Mockingbird is a top 5 but it is SHIT compared to blues brothers. Blues Brothers is holy shit perfect. I wore the VHS out on it and I can quote the movie nearly line for line. No comedy has ever had a script so perfectly crafted.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2007, 10:58:31 PM »
pd has officially jumped the shark with this thread. i suggest TOWNIE LEPER status.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2007, 10:58:42 PM »
Ghostbusters > Blues Brothers x99,000,000,000,000

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2007, 10:59:16 PM »
My 5 favorite movies:

Revenge of the Nerds
Alphaville
Fritz Lang's M
Brazil
Blue Velvet
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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2007, 10:59:32 PM »
Ghostbusters > Blues Brothers x99,000,000,000,000
ghostbusters is a awesome blockbuster. But in that, it is a blockbuster and harder to put above a darker more subdued film like BB.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2007, 11:00:05 PM »
blues brothers hating = bannable offense.
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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2007, 11:01:06 PM »
Ghostbusters > Blues Brothers x99,000,000,000,000
ghostbusters is a awesome blockbuster. But in that, it is a blockbuster and harder to put above a darker more subdued film like BB.


I'd say they're both kinda dark comedies though which is why I compared them... and I think Ghostbusters is far superior. Not that I'm knocking your opinions, but I like going to sleep at night knowing that I've said something positive about Ghostbusters on the internet. It's a personal thing.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2007, 11:01:51 PM »
Mockingbird is a top 5 but it is SHIT compared to blues brothers. Blues Brothers is holy shit perfect. I wore the VHS out on it and I can quote the movie nearly line for line. No comedy has ever had a script so perfectly crafted.

You're crazy. Mockingbird is considered to be one of the greatest films of all time - and for good reason. Blues Brothers does not compare.

Ghostbusters>Blues Brothers
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2007, 11:03:58 PM »
Mockingbird is a top 5 but it is SHIT compared to blues brothers. Blues Brothers is holy shit perfect. I wore the VHS out on it and I can quote the movie nearly line for line. No comedy has ever had a script so perfectly crafted.

You're crazy. Mockingbird is considered to be one of the greatest films of all time - and for good reason. Blues Brothers does not compare.

Ghostbusters>Blues Brothers
Blues Brothers is more highly regarded critically by film buffs than Ghostbusters though, by far.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2007, 11:06:23 PM »
Mockingbird is a top 5 but it is SHIT compared to blues brothers. Blues Brothers is holy shit perfect. I wore the VHS out on it and I can quote the movie nearly line for line. No comedy has ever had a script so perfectly crafted.

You're crazy. Mockingbird is considered to be one of the greatest films of all time - and for good reason. Blues Brothers does not compare.

Ghostbusters>Blues Brothers
Blues Brothers is more highly regarded critically by film buffs than Ghostbusters though, by far.

Heh, it's still ok. And it's not like Ghostbusters is this omg classic either.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2007, 11:07:04 PM »
either? Blues Brothers is a classic. Ghostbusters is a fantastic 80's blockbuster. Blues Brothers is high art cinema.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2007, 11:32:53 PM »



One of the best comedies of the 80's.


(Unless you hate "over the top" Richard Dreyfuss acting)


It has:

Richard Dreyfuss as a degenerate gambler


Teri Garr as his bitchy wife



David Johansen (yes, of Buster Poindexter/New York dolls fame) who absolutely steals the movie as his degenerate friend



A young Jennifer Tilly (and her twins) as the gold digging ditz.



Robert Coltrane (Yes, Hagrid) in a funny reoccuring part of a ticket seller



..and even a young Cynthia Nixon playing an innocent girl (with braces, natch) among a den of wolves.


Netflix this movie.


IMDB review:


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perfect comedy, 20 July 1999

Author: mcfly-31 from anaheim, ca

All I can pretty much do is conquer with what everyone else said. This is an extremely underrated, hardly known, right on the money racetrack pic. Dreyfuss (playing a guy named "Trotter") is a gambling obsessed cabbie who's been waiting forever for that one perfect day at the track. He gets a tip from his buddy Looney (crack up Johanssen) and the two head off to bet on the doctored up horse. Dreyfuss wins 710 dollars which kicks off an incredible run of luck over the day, but the real core of the film is the truckload of laughs to be found. Literally every one of the oddball characters has a great scene and contributes largely. From the other losers at the bar across from the track to the snobs in the Jockey Club, I loved everybody. A real treat is the rapport between Dreyfuss and Johanssen, who are great as the wiser bettor and the dopey friend. And I couldnt believe the suspense I felt during the final race, there was a tremendous amount of genuine tension. Great score, too, capturing both the upbeat and dramatic moments. Dreyfuss best film.


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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2007, 11:43:18 PM »
I liked Hook, but fuck you PD.  :lol  Blues Brothers is one of the best movies in modern history, let alone one of the best comedies ever.
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2007, 11:47:40 PM »
Stop posting in or creating movie threads, PD.  I'm starting to hate you and your lack of taste.  >:(
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2007, 12:41:31 AM »
Hmmm. I'm seeing a pattern with PD's movie choices. He tends to like fantasy movies...very cookie cutter and geared towards a younger group. Like a true form of escapism to some fantasy land, to forget his demons and homeschooling experiences. PEE DEE :wag :-\

He's the next fucking Michael Jackson
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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2007, 12:52:25 AM »
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Hook rocks

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2007, 12:57:58 AM »
Ah.

IN response to everything, and because I want to hit 1000 tonight:

Hook fucking sucks balls.

Ghostbusters is better than the Blues Brothers, but that doesn't mean that the Blues Brothers was a bad movie, because it wasn't. To Kill A Mockingbird had fucking Gregory Peck in one of his best performances, and is better than Blues Brothers.

Seriously PD, you are scaring me. I'M going to start trolling you soon. You love Hook and hate Unforgiven?  WTF.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2007, 12:58:23 AM »
I was cheering when Dustin Hoffman offed that annoying kid.  Yeah!  That was great.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2007, 02:59:36 AM »
National Lampoons Christmas Vacation. :)
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2007, 07:55:22 AM »
Hook is the worst movie of the 90's, and the worst shit Spielberg ever did. How he managed to recover from this and make Schindler is beyond me.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2007, 09:40:01 AM »
Hook is from the 80s
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2007, 09:42:34 AM »
No it's not
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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2007, 09:43:57 AM »
Hook is from the 80s
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USA     11 December 1991
whoops.
and on a somewhat related note, Finding Neverland was hate-worthy bad.

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Re: Most underrated movie of all time?
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2007, 09:49:42 AM »
Hey now, Hook was the shit. Pretty non-crap for a live action kid's movie. Why does everyone hate Robin Williams so much? The hairy beast is harmless.
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