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Title: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 09, 2010, 06:38:10 PM
Xbox 360 -- 356,700
Nintendo DS -- 342,700
Wii -- 244,300
PlayStation 3 -- 226,000
PSP -- 79,400

Madden NFL 11 (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) -- 920,800
Madden NFL 11 (Electronic Arts, PlayStation 3) -- 893,600
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo, Wii) - 124,600
Mafia II (Take 2 Interactive, Xbox 360) -- 121,600
New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo, DS) -- 110,400
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
Mafia II (Take 2 Interactive, PS3)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360)
NCAA Football 11 (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360)
Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 09, 2010, 06:42:11 PM
Wow, 360 still on top.

That's only because the PS3 is having supply constraint problems...
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: The Sceneman on September 09, 2010, 06:44:22 PM
Worst month for software I have ever seen... Mafia 2 has tanked but you can expect that from a crap game.

Good to see the XBEAST 360 is wiping the floor with PS3. That'll teach Sony for not coming up with achievements first
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 09, 2010, 06:48:16 PM
interesting how close madden 11 PS3 is to the 360 version this time around.


Quote
Perennial powerhouse Madden NFL 11 outran its competition in August.

The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the EA Sports title took No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, on The NPD Group's monthly sales charts. Combined, Madden sold 1.8 million copies, outpacing the 1.75 million copies sold in its inaugural month last year (that total includes a PS2 version that sold 120,000).

However, sales were not enough to prevent the industry's fifth straight decline. Total sales of video games, systems and accessories amounted to about $819 million, 10% below August 2009, according to NPD's report. Hardware sales dropped 5%, while software sales dropped 14%.

"In fact, this month reflected the lowest sales for August since 2006," says NPD's Anita Frazier. "While all categories are down in both dollars and units, the portable portion of the industry is down to a greater extent than is the console portion."

Portable sales (hardware, software and accessories) is down 25%, compared to last August; console dollar sales are down 6%, she says. However, 2010 could still show top 2009's $19.66 billion total. "Factoring in seasonality and taking into account some of the incredible games and accessories (PlayStation Move and Microsoft's Kinect) that are coming out during the remainder of the year, new physical retail video game sales are likely to land in the range of $18.6 to $20 billion for the year."
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 09, 2010, 06:51:43 PM
interesting how close madden 11 PS3 is to the 360 version.

EA has been making a pretty aggressive effort in the last year or so on the PS3. A lot of things like advertising with Sony and offering betas first on the PS3. They probably feel they have a loyal audience there from the PS 2 era that is upgrading.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 09, 2010, 06:53:52 PM
interesting how close madden 11 PS3 is to the 360 version.

EA has been making a pretty aggressive effort in the last year or so on the PS3. A lot of things like advertising with Sony and offering betas first on the PS3. They probably feel they have a loyal audience there from the PS 2 era that is upgrading.

seems its paying off with Madden at least.

We'll see how the other EA games fare.

Quote
2009:

* Wii - 277,400
* Xbox 360 - 215,400
* PS3 - 210,000
* NDS - 552,900
* PSP - 140,300
* PS2 - 105,900

# Madden NFL 10 (360) / Electronic Arts / 928,000
# Wii Sports Resort w/ Wii Motion Plus (Wii) / Nintendo / 754,000
# Madden NFL 10 (PS3) / Electronic Arts/ 665,000
# Batman: Arkham Asylum (360) / Square Enix (Eidos) / 303,000
# Batman: Arkham Asylum (PS3) / Square Enix (Eidos) / 290,000
# Madden NFL 10 (PS2) / Electronic Arts / 160,000
# Dissidia: Final Fantasy (PSP) / Square Enix / 130,000
# Wii Fit (Wii) / Nintendo / 128,000
# Mario Kart w/ Wheel (Wii) / Nintendo / 120,000
# Fossil Fighters (DS) / Nintendo / 92,000


The HD twins have increased compared to the same time last year while the Wii has decreased once again
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 09, 2010, 06:58:08 PM
The more interesting bit to me is how the Wii has completely fallen off. It barely outsold the PS3. Seems like the fad (at least when it comes to hardware) is experiencing diminishing results finally. Maybe time for a price cut on it. I'm sure it will still have a big Xmas since its the safe console for parents but still it ain't what it used to be.

Wii

Aug 2008: 453.0K   
Aug 2009: 277.4K
Aug 2010: 244.3K
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Cindi Mayweather on September 09, 2010, 07:01:56 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DQ9 DIDN'T CHART
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 09, 2010, 07:03:49 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

DQ9 DIDN'T CHART

you expected otherwise  ???
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Cindi Mayweather on September 09, 2010, 07:06:02 PM
I was *HOPING* otherwise
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on September 09, 2010, 07:07:31 PM
:bow Madden 11

:bow NCAA 11

:bow Football
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 09, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
from the full NPD article

Quote
The 360 and PS3 platforms both grew in dollar sales versus last year. In fact, the 360 platform contributed more than 1/3 of total new physical retail sales across hardware, software and accessories while the PS3 platform contributed over 1/4 of total dollar sales."
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Robo on September 09, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
Huh, I didn't even know a new Madden was out.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: archie4208 on September 09, 2010, 07:18:33 PM
Quote
Blizzard's PC game Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty -- had it qualified as a console video game -- actually would hit the charts with more than 300,000 copies sold. "In fact, PC games retail dollar sales saw a 35% increase over last August," Frazier says.

PC gaming, back from the dead.  :bow Blizzard :bow2
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on September 09, 2010, 07:18:35 PM
It's always out in August, boo.  :-*
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: lordoftherink on September 09, 2010, 07:18:50 PM
I was *HOPING* otherwise

Top 20 isn't out yet.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Robo on September 09, 2010, 07:20:28 PM
If there isn't a thread for it on evilbore, it might as well not exist!
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Damian79 on September 09, 2010, 07:20:48 PM
The HD twins have increased compared to the same time last year while the Wii has decreased once again

I think that the wii has reached saturation point in America.  It has 30 million in the US alone.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 09, 2010, 07:21:23 PM
Quote
Software includes sales of new physical games sold at retail; does not include revenue from used, digital downloads, dlc, rental, subscription, mobile or social network games.
NPD will report on the total market, including these other forms of revenue, on a quarterly basis in the near future.

Seems NPD will be finally doing the whole shebang soon (so digital downloads may finally get some numbers now)

Title: Madden 11 |OT|
Post by: Brehvolution on September 09, 2010, 07:37:52 PM
If there isn't a thread for it on evilbore, it might as well not exist!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/25h1x54.jpg)



This is what it would look like.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
Quote
2009:

* Wii - 277,400
* Xbox 360 - 215,400
* PS3 - 210,000
* NDS - 552,900
* PSP - 140,300
* PS2 - 105,900

The HD twins have increased compared to the same time last year while the Wii has decreased once again

Wii - -11.9%
Xbox 360 - +65.5%
PS3 - +7.6%
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 09, 2010, 07:44:33 PM
Yeah, third month for 360 in a row on top makes me think this is gonna be a new trend. 99 dollar wii now, or else Iwata!  Ps3 is about to surpass the Wii ytd totals in japan next week too.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2010, 07:49:32 PM
Yeah, I could definitely see the Wii spiking with a price drop. Hasn't it been a year since the drop to $200?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 09, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
This is what it would look like.

(http://www.gtouk.org.uk/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_tumbleweed.gif)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 09, 2010, 07:53:15 PM
Yeah, I could definitely see the Wii spiking with a price drop. Hasn't it been a year since the drop to $200?

They could at LEAST be stingy and release a barebones package with just the console and wiimote for like 150- bucks.  I heard a rumor about that but I haven't really followed up on that.

edit

And stop me if I'm being an ignoramus on the economics of it all, but I think the one true barrier thats holding back the wii is that their audience isn't the obsessive nerds who will spend copious amounts of money on hardware and software.  I know tjhe 50 dollar price point has worked years and years for them, but sales are dwindling and now is the time to introduce a discount line of their most popular wii software attached to a big advertising push.  Wii Fit plus is really the only software still sticking around and thats like a 20 dollar disc to most people.  Mariokart, Wii Play, Animal Crossing, etc should not still be 50 dollars if you're trying to attract new customers this late in the game.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Some new relevant software wouldn't hurt either
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Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 09, 2010, 07:59:31 PM
If anything they'll repackage with Wii Sports Resort and a motion plus for the same price.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on September 09, 2010, 08:02:04 PM
If the Wii ever hits 50 bucks (it's actual value), I'll bite. 


Until then......
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 09, 2010, 08:04:04 PM
If anything they'll repackage with Wii Sports Resort and a motion plus for the same price.

They already did that dude.

... Like, fo realz
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 09, 2010, 08:06:46 PM
Not here they didn't.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bocsius on September 09, 2010, 08:10:57 PM
NPD already? My how the time doth fly.

Ditto to surprise at Madden being so close on 360-PS3.
Ditto to surprise that 360 is so much higher than Wii yet again.
Ditto to surprise that 360 is so much higher than PS.. wait, no.

And, of course, we're still anticipating the biggest release of the year.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Crazy Taxi XBLA/PSN
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Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 09, 2010, 08:13:55 PM
The 360 and PS3 versions of Madden pretty close sales wise, interesting.

Good to see Wii numbers down again. The hype is gone. Well at least until Thanksgiving and Christmas
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 09, 2010, 08:14:08 PM
Not here they didn't.

Nintendo doesn't do jack shit in Australia last I heard.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 09, 2010, 08:23:14 PM
It's not as bad as it's made out to be, but it certainly could be better.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 09, 2010, 08:23:21 PM
Wow, 360 still on top.

That's only because the PS3 is having supply constraint problems...

Along with the PSP, amirite?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 09, 2010, 08:42:21 PM
What a shame at Mafia, but it still didn't totally tank like most titles.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 09, 2010, 08:49:42 PM
It was released on the 24th, only a few days before the end of the reporting period.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 09, 2010, 09:03:57 PM
lulz.

For what its worth apparently that was the worst month of Wii sales in America since the system launched according to Eurogamer.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 09, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
Just like it helped Killzone 2, Heavy Rain etc..
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 09, 2010, 10:58:33 PM
Garbage sales. Ug. Mafia is unlikely to make any money.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 09, 2010, 11:00:20 PM
People are saving their money. They dont want to waste money now when the fall is coming hard and fast
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 09, 2010, 11:13:57 PM
Gotta save their money for Two Worlds II.  8)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 09, 2010, 11:30:08 PM
BishopTL makes another flop...
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 09, 2010, 11:35:07 PM
I like Mafia 2. A lot. But I doubt its ever going to be some mega franchise. It simply doesn't have enough wide spread appeal both with its content and its theme. Hell RDR isn't ever going to be as popular as GTA and it took a great fucking game to garner it the sales levels it did.

Also taking 8 years between iterations of your game probably isn't a great thing for consumer awareness. For what its worth those were like less than a week of sales as the game was released on the 24th of August but of course with games like that the sales are mostly front loaded so it evens out.  It's sold decently in Europe (England) also but yeah that's a series where the games need to be more cost efficient and it can't take forever between installments.

 
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Barry Egan on September 10, 2010, 12:37:47 AM
he's a cool dude.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 10, 2010, 02:01:26 AM
hmm

Nice numbers...master will be pleased...good,good
:)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Philip Cardgage on September 10, 2010, 07:30:59 AM
Seems PS3 is on its last breath.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2010, 08:41:31 AM
were Kane and Lynch 2 or Metroid Other M in August?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Philip Cardgage on September 10, 2010, 08:50:46 AM
kane and Lynch was, metroid was for 1 day I think.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 02:06:14 PM
Top 20.

1) Madden NFL 11 (360)
2) Madden NFL 11 (PS3)
3) Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Wii)
4) Mafia 2 (360)
5) New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo DS)
6) New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii)
7) Mafia 2 (PS3)
8.) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (360)
9) NCAA Football 11 (360)
10) Wii Fit Plus (Wii)
11) Just Dance (Wii)
12) Red Dead Redemption (360)
13) Pokemon SoulSilver (Nintendo DS)
14) Madden NFL 11 (PS2)
15) NCAA Football 11 (PS3)
16) Wipeout: The Game (Wii)
17) Mario Kart Wii (Wii)
18) Dragon Quest IX (Nintendo DS)
19) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (PS3)
20) Mario Kart DS (Nintendo DS)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: iconoclast on September 10, 2010, 02:14:10 PM
No they didn't.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 02:15:07 PM
IO interactive had a good run.

Stop making those shitty Kane and Lynch games and make fucking the next Hitman please.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 10, 2010, 02:24:27 PM
IO interactive had a good run.

Stop making those shitty Kane and Lynch games and make fucking the next Freedom Fighters please.

[youtube=560,345]ZV3u9Tt9Oe8[/youtube]
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 10, 2010, 02:24:34 PM
well DQ at 18 so Himu gets a victory somewhat.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 02:28:17 PM
IO interactive had a good run.

Stop making those shitty Kane and Lynch games and make fucking the next Freedom Fighters please.

[youtube=560,345]ZV3u9Tt9Oe8[/youtube]

Well I love freedom fighters but it ain't ever gonna happen. But the silly thing was IO took out all the elements in K&L 2 that at least hark back to freedom fighters and just made it a really generic and bad third person shooter. At least the original K&L had a few original elements that started from freedom fighters like the squad control. K&L 2 has nothing.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on September 10, 2010, 02:28:53 PM
I can't believe COD is in the top 10 almost a year after release. Good to see RDR has some legs.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 10, 2010, 02:32:23 PM
K&L2 has a cutscene where a chick gets raped and you play a whole level running buck ass naked with lacerations all over you. I'd say it's a pretty cool game.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 10, 2010, 02:32:55 PM
No they didn't.

Sorry they didnt make JAP games... lmao
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 10, 2010, 03:10:26 PM
K&L2 has a cutscene where a chick gets raped and you play a whole level running buck ass naked with lacerations all over you. I'd say it's a pretty cool game.

WAT
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Philip Cardgage on September 10, 2010, 03:14:52 PM
K&L2 has a cutscene where a chick gets raped and you play a whole level running buck ass naked with lacerations all over you. I'd say it's a pretty cool game.

Game rocked.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on September 10, 2010, 03:27:42 PM
not for nothing, but both Kand and Lynch and Mafia charted well in Europe.

and I beat K&L2 in a rental period, I don't recall rape of any sort.  But it was a pretty not bad game.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 10, 2010, 03:43:50 PM
not for nothing, but both Kand and Lynch and Mafia charted well in Europe.

and I beat K&L2 in a rental period, I don't recall rape of any sort.  But it was a pretty not bad game.

When K&L are getting sliced up, you hear her getting raped.

"TELL THEM TO STOP!!!!"
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 10, 2010, 03:46:10 PM
better chart

(http://i.imgur.com/E1AJy.png)

only top six sold more than 100k

gamasutra
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
well DQ at 18 so Himu gets a victory somewhat.

You guys do realize that DQIX came out in July, right? That it already charted last month, sold about 130k. Or was everybody hoping that it was going to become a perennial powerhouse like NSMB DS and still be in the Top 10 after 5 years?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 10, 2010, 05:07:36 PM
well DQ at 18 so Himu gets a victory somewhat.

You guys do realize that DQIX came out in July, right? That it already charted last month, sold about 130k. Or was everybody hoping that it was going to become a perennial powerhouse like NSMB DS and still be in the Top 10 after 5 years?

I know that already  :lol

It was Himuro hoping and praying it would stick around for this NPD, i didn't give a shit
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 10, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
Gah. I seriously wonder if anyone is making money at this point. Time to bail out of the industry!
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 06:11:20 PM
While I agree times may not be great at the moment for the industry that's really not much different than the general economy. Also there is a big whole missing amount of money via digital distribution that isn't being take into account at all. Not just on PC's but on consoles via XBLA, PSN.

Some of those summer of Arcade titles sold hundreds of thousands of copies and none of that gets accounted for in NPD reports.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Also there is a big whole missing amount of money via digital distribution that isn't being take into account at all. Not just on PC's but on consoles via XBLA, PSN.

http://www.conceivablytech.com/1926/business/us-digital-game-sales-almost-at-parity-with-physical-purchases/
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 06:16:23 PM
Also there is a big whole missing amount of money via digital distribution that isn't being take into account at all. Not just on PC's but on consoles via XBLA, PSN.

http://www.conceivablytech.com/1926/business/us-digital-game-sales-almost-at-parity-with-physical-purchases/

Yeah when people same game revenue is down its probably much more accurate to say game revenue is being redistributed in lots of different venues. And some of those venues are not recorded very accurately at the moment in an accurate manner so you are getting an incomplete picture of the game industry. It's like comparing television as it switched from a 3 network operation to a 500 hundred channel operation. You have facebook, idevices, etc.

Limbo sold at least 300k
Monday Night Combat has nearly 200k on its leaderboards.
Dead Rising Case Zero sold 300k in a week.

So we definitely aren't getting the complete picture and that's only increasing every day.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 10, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
Gah. I seriously wonder if anyone is making money at this point. Time to bail out of the industry!

only 6 games making  >100k units is crazy
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2010, 06:22:09 PM
It is just the calm before the storm that is HALO REACH.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2010, 06:23:18 PM
It is just the calm before the storm that is TWO WORLDS II.

Fixed.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 10, 2010, 06:27:09 PM
It is just the calm before the storm that is HALO REACH.

is anyone looking forward to HALO: Reacharound? I'm getting a very THPS5 vibe from this one
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Brehvolution on September 10, 2010, 06:28:56 PM
+1 Civ 5 for Sept. NPD.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 06:29:48 PM
It is just the calm before the storm that is HALO REACH.

is anyone looking forward to HALO: Reacharound?

Among jaded forum posters...probably not.  (not a diss)
Among "regular people". Yes.

It will do gangbusters next month. Not mw 2 numbers but gangbusters nevertheless.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 06:38:37 PM
i am looking forward to that gamefly email on monday
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 06:40:48 PM
A friend of mine who isn't a messageboard nerd at all was telling me "why don't they just make Halo 4 instead another Halo 3 expansion."

Anecdotal, sure, but it's a bit telling how ODST damaged the brand.

ODST was crap but alot of the "regular people" I know on xbox live are very hyped about Reach. Halo 3 has suddenly appeared on my friends playlists a lot more frequently in the last few weeks. Halo is the Mario of the xbox brand. I think its nearly impossible to damage that brand to any significant degree this gen at least.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 06:43:00 PM
calling it Halo 4 would piss off the casually unaware when they see that there is no master chief
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 06:45:49 PM
true, plus there's like a dozen master chiefs in this one, isn't there?

Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 06:47:40 PM
even i'm thinking about buying black ops, and i am not interested in any call of duty which does not involve me shooting at bad german accents
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 06:47:59 PM
damn your stealth edit
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 06:52:35 PM
I think that crown has to go to CoD this gen.

WW2 again?  I'm thinking Call of Duty is done. (Millions of sales)

Every year?  I think Call of Duty is done (More millions)

Treyarch?  (More Millions)

WW2 in the Pacific?  This Franchise has run its course (12 milion+ sales)

There is no doubt Call of Duty is the biggest franchise of this gen outside of something like World of Warcraft or Wii play or the Mario Franchise as a whole. Black Ops will sell big but I don't think it will outsell MW 2. But Halo is nothing to sneeze at. It's a mammoth franchise on its own. The name alone garners million.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 10, 2010, 06:57:29 PM
I just feel like ODST really took a huge crap all over the brand. everyone played Halo 3, less than everyone played ODST, and no one at work seems excited about Reach - the reaction is more "oh, God, more Halo."

everything about Reach looks like furious backpedalling to make it a "return to our roots" which is usually the line you start trotting out when a band/artist/brand is so creatively stagnated that nobody knows what to do with it anymore but by God, you need to keep pumping out content.

I don't doubt it'll still sell very well (of course) but I think it will come in significantly under 3 and even a bit under ODST
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 07:10:50 PM
I just feel like ODST really took a huge crap all over the brand. everyone played Halo 3, less than everyone played ODST, and no one at work seems excited about Reach - the reaction is more "oh, God, more Halo."

everything about Reach looks like furious backpedalling to make it a "return to our roots" which is usually the line you start trotting out when a band/artist/brand is so creatively stagnated that nobody knows what to do with it anymore but by God, you need to keep pumping out content.

I don't doubt it'll still sell very well (of course) but I think it will come in significantly under 3 and even a bit under ODST

I think it will outdo odst pretty comfortably. As far as Halo 3, I'm not sure. That was the highwater mark probably for Halo interest in general but then the userbase is much bigger than it was back then. I would guess it would either be close or surpass it since this will essentially probably be the penultimate version of Halo for this gen.

Reach certainly seems like essentially a greatest hits version of the Halo franchise but then without pushing forward into the lore of it truly being Halo 4 then that's pretty much all it could have been. It looks and feels like what Halo 3 should have been. Which is probably exciting for some people and not so exciting for others.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 07:14:14 PM
i was interested in halo when i heard the gearbox rumor (even though i have my problems with gearbox)

a brothers in arms style squad based tactical shooter with a halo skin over it would have made a much more interesting odst
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 10, 2010, 07:16:29 PM
I just feel like ODST really took a huge crap all over the brand. everyone played Halo 3, less than everyone played ODST, and no one at work seems excited about Reach - the reaction is more "oh, God, more Halo."

everything about Reach looks like furious backpedalling to make it a "return to our roots" which is usually the line you start trotting out when a band/artist/brand is so creatively stagnated that nobody knows what to do with it anymore but by God, you need to keep pumping out content.

I don't doubt it'll still sell very well (of course) but I think it will come in significantly under 3 and even a bit under ODST

I think it will outdo odst pretty comfortably. As far as Halo 3, I'm not sure. That was the highwater mark probably for Halo interest in general but then the userbase is much bigger than it was back then. I would guess it would either be close or surpass it since this will essentially probably be the penultimate version of Halo for this gen.

That means "next-to-last"; not sure that's what you meant. :)

No way it outsells Halo 3. I also sincerely doubt it outsells ODST, but I guess we'll know in a month!
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2010, 07:16:34 PM
A friend of mine who isn't a messageboard nerd at all was telling me "why don't they just make Halo 4 instead another Halo 3 expansion."

Anecdotal, sure, but it's a bit telling how ODST damaged the brand.

ODST was crap but alot of the "regular people" I know on xbox live are very hyped about Reach.

Yeah, my sister's boyfriend hated ODST, but he's still like OMGOMGOMGREACHOMG. I totally blew his mind when he asked if I was getting Reach, and I was like "mmmm.....nah".
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 07:19:25 PM
i was interested in halo when i heard the gearbox rumor (even though i have my problems with gearbox)

a brothers in arms style squad based tactical shooter with a halo skin over it would have made a much more interesting odst

I was very into reach early on when I thought it was going to be a real classed based shooter. But it turns out that really wasn't the case. And I've always had a secret desire for halo to sort of turn into a battlefield style game because I think the universe is expansive enough and interesting enough to support that kind of game.

But as I've seen more video my interest mostly rose based on a mix of Nostalgia of playing older Halo games and just the fact that it honestly sort of looks like an improved version of Halo 3.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 07:20:13 PM
That means "next-to-last"; not sure that's what you meant. :)

I'm dumb.
 :'(
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 07:22:37 PM
i'd really dig a halo battlefield, now that you mention it

i tend to enjoy all battlefield type games
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 07:26:46 PM
i'd really dig a halo battlefield, now that you mention it

i tend to enjoy all battlefield type games

I think you could make a really good battlefield game out of Halo. Hell the game has essentially turned into a br or sniper game anyway as the battle engagement distance keeps getting pushed out. And it already has the vehicles. Just split it off into a different franchise and alternate between that and traditional halo games so you don't alienate the current audience.


 
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 07:43:09 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/10/halo-reach-will-outsell-call-of-duty-black-ops-mcgill-says/
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: SantaC on September 10, 2010, 07:49:42 PM
halo fanboys will always continue to buy halo games even if it was just a turd in a box.

Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 10, 2010, 07:53:50 PM
halo fanboys will always continue to buy halo games even if it was just a turd in a box.

It isn't already?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: SantaC on September 10, 2010, 07:55:24 PM
halo fanboys will always continue to buy halo games even if it was just a turd in a box.

It isn't already?

Well you got me there.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 10, 2010, 07:55:54 PM
I like Halo. I think its a fun series. Always have. Halo 3 didn't hook me but overall I really like the series. I like how bungie treats their community. Halo fanboys are very annoying but I think the actual game is good.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 10, 2010, 07:59:35 PM
I thought Halo 3 was a great multiplayer game that had a lot of great features for a console game, but ODST was fucking awful. I'm looking forward to Reach and Black Ops, but everyone knows I'm a Call of Duty junkie. I played Modern Warfare all year, then World at War all year, I play Modern Warfare 2 pretty much daily and I'm sure I'll gobble up Black Ops.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: cool breeze on September 10, 2010, 08:09:27 PM
ODST didn't have proper multiplayer.  The multiplayer for ODST was Halo 3 + maps thrown onto a DVD.  The only thing that was original was horde firefight and it felt rush.  It would be like releasing a CoD game this year that was the campaign and spec ops.  Considering how popular the Halo games are on live, I'd imagine the lack of any real multiplayer was enough to keep people away from ODST.  I'm someone that likes the campaigns more so I thought ODST was good; the campaign was better than Halo 3 or 2.

Even if you just read the box, Reach is a new full game.  Whether or not ODST damaged whatever credibility the brand had, we'll see.

It is funny how both Halo and Pokemon games are trying to recapture the spirit of the old games.  So far we know the Pokemon Black/White was successful because the highly credible and trustworthy Famitsu gave it a perfect score.

I think everyone is forgetting the real big hit this year: Medal of Honor.  It has the power of Linkin Park and will soar higher than Transformers 2.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Beezy on September 10, 2010, 08:14:09 PM
I'm not sure about Black Ops yet, but I'm happy to see that its killstreaks don't seem ass annoying or cheesy as MW2's.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Eel O'Brian on September 10, 2010, 08:24:35 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/10/halo-reach-will-outsell-call-of-duty-black-ops-mcgill-says/
halo is coming off two back to back poorly received titles, CoD is coming off 3 extremely well received titles.

what makes it especially funny is "our game which is available exclusively on our console will DEFINITELY outsell this other game which is available on every electronic device across god's green earth"
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Robo on September 10, 2010, 08:34:46 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bocsius on September 10, 2010, 08:40:41 PM
Don't care about Reach, haven't been following it. Will eventually get it, but certainly not day one or month one.

Love Halo, particularly CE. Hated the lack of creativity in the storytelling with 2 and 3. Just plain hated ODST.

Hopefully they can hit the reset button and reveal more of a sinister plot than just "lolz, religious doomsday cult, gon blow up yer galaxy." But I don't have much hope for Bungie's ability on that. Maybe they'll surprise me. Someday.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 10, 2010, 08:47:18 PM
Freedom Fighters was really, really fun
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 10, 2010, 10:56:47 PM
There is no way in hell Reach doesn't top ODSTq
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 11, 2010, 02:16:57 AM
We do people get such insane ideas?

It will probably sell more in a day than ODST in lifetime...this is a true Halo title,fully action packed...story is lol,Reach will fall,fight fight fight
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Sho Nuff on September 11, 2010, 03:39:18 AM
But Reach doesn't have hunky Nathan Fillion
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 11, 2010, 04:05:31 AM
Nathan who?

Anyway,finished it on Legendary and now replaying it in co-op...much more fun as usual,much easier...not sure if people know,but you are not replacing anyone,just adding extra Spartans to the fight

Now something interesting
(http://blogs.forbes.com/oliverchiang/files/2010/09/Gaming_Portable_Devices_10092010-1024x768.jpg)


Quote
According to the 2010 International Games Survey by market research firm Newzoo, there are 40.1 million people in the U.S. who play games on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad. The total number of gamers in the U.S. on Nintendo DS and DSi consoles was 41 million. (For reference, Sony’s PSP has a mere 18 million players). Basically, you have the same number of people playing games on iOS devices as on Nintendo DS consoles.

http://blogs.forbes.com/oliverchiang/2010/09/10/study-apple-now-has-nearly-as-many-portable-gamers-as-nintendo/ (http://blogs.forbes.com/oliverchiang/2010/09/10/study-apple-now-has-nearly-as-many-portable-gamers-as-nintendo/)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 11, 2010, 04:10:29 AM
They are Noble 6...you can fully customize them of course
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 11, 2010, 04:28:14 AM
Everybody sees their own Spartan in cutscenes,a nice touch
.
.
.
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From Forbes article
Quote
Warman is betting on touch winning the day. “I think even Apple didn’t realize how many parents would be handing their iPhones and iPod touch devices to their kids to play games. The new generation is finding games on them so intuitive that they will have a hard time getting back to gaming on the computer or on the DS. They will only accept a minimal amount of button-pushing.”

gaming had a good run


Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: iconoclast on September 11, 2010, 04:55:39 AM
I am looking forward to Reach mostly because the multiplayer looks like it'll be the best in the series since Halo 1. I am SO glad Bungie finally realized they were incapable of recapturing former glory, so they hired a former FASA guy to lead Reach's multiplayer. Shadowrun is the best FPS on consoles since the original Halo, so if they can top that, I am 100% back on board with the Halo franchise.

All of my casual friends are in the same boat too. But then again they realize ODST was a throwaway expansion and that Reach is the next real installment.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Third on September 11, 2010, 08:01:51 AM
Nice to see how Wii's sales are plummeting.  :lol

X360 is doing great. MS will murder competition next month with Halo Reach.
Ps3 is doing ok.

The difference in Madden between the X360 and Ps3 has drastically changed since last year, in favor of the Ps3. 
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 11, 2010, 10:06:57 AM
Nice to see how Wii's sales are plummeting.  :lol

It dropped 12% from last August, when it had the first full month of Wii Sports Resort. Do you know what game came out for the Wii this July/August? Nothing.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2010, 10:57:55 AM
I just now realized that Reach was coming out next week.  I didn't realize the playstation waggle stuff was next week too.  I thought the only game I'd be getting was Gladiator Begins (not to say I'm getting the move)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: magus on September 11, 2010, 11:06:25 AM
it's really sad when you think the wii might gets back to the top of the chart when wii party hits :-\
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2010, 11:23:47 AM
Probably.  The people who want Wii Party are the ones who buy video games.  Most people who play games like Metroid on the system pirate it and complain about the lack of support for the system.  In terms of video games, there is Goldeneye, Epic Mickey, Kirby, and Donkey Kong.  You know Goldeneye will be pirated big time because it is trying to appeal to the 'hardcore gamer'.  Kirby and Donkey Kong might be more like Wario Land where they don't do too well.  Epic Mickey might appeal to people who spend money on video games.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2010, 11:38:30 AM
I didn't realize the playstation waggle stuff was next week too.

I wonder if we will get actual numbers on that stuff or have to rely on sony spin. I have a feeling that thing is gonna tank.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: cool breeze on September 11, 2010, 05:28:47 PM
It's a bit of a mess with how they're releasing everything.

You can get the Move alone
or
with PS3 Sports, and the camera
or
with PS3 Sports, the camera, and a PS3

but you can get PS3 Sports alone for $40 and the camera alone for $30

the entire thing is a mess

Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 11, 2010, 05:51:55 PM
Why the hell would you want PS3 Sports without the controller?? :lol
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2010, 05:56:00 PM
I didn't realize the playstation waggle stuff was next week too.

I wonder if we will get actual numbers on that stuff or have to rely on sony spin. I have a feeling that thing is gonna tank.

We should get actual software numbers, right? I mean, most of the software seems to be out right now.

Yeah but I'm more curious about the hardware since that is what counts. I don't expect much of the software to do well. But the way they bundle the hardware skus will confuse the numbers anyway.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 11, 2010, 06:47:44 PM
I didn't realize the playstation waggle stuff was next week too.

I wonder if we will get actual numbers on that stuff or have to rely on sony spin. I have a feeling that thing is gonna tank.

I think it could sell well during the holidays especially if the Wii has shortages, but the cost won't be appealing to most audiences in September/October.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 11, 2010, 07:57:26 PM
hey methodis you lost

how does it feel to be a loser
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2010, 08:13:26 PM
I just now realized that Reach was coming out next week.  I didn't realize the playstation waggle stuff was next week too.  I thought the only game I'd be getting was Gladiator Begins (not to say I'm getting the move)

Yeah, Reach is the 2nd "big" game in a row I've been completely unhyped about (Metroid: Other M, which I still haven't played beyond the tutorial).

It's not like ODST even did anything to hurt the franchise for me.  I thought ODST had a great campaign and that's the only reason I play Halo.  I never touch the multiplayer really.  I think it's just the advertising for Reach has always come across as too "bro" for me.  I always liked Halo because I thought it had a nice mass appeal angle like Mario and Star Wars.  I've only seen the initial Reach trailers but they were like "YO, GRAB YOUR BROS AND GO SHOOT SOME COVENANT FUCKERS!!!" while parading around with suits with skull emblems and shit.  It was like Hillbilly Halo, which just turned turned me off.

Still getting it because it's not going to drop below $40 for a long while, so might as well get it day 1 (same reason I bought Other M day 1), but couldn't care less about playing it.  Will do the first chapter or two on tuesday and see if it clicks.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 11, 2010, 08:15:23 PM
Would you prefer it if it had  a song from a famous pop star, and they were a merry band of warriors off to save the world?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2010, 08:16:30 PM
Would you prefer it if it had  a song from a famous pop star, and they were a merry band of warriors off to save the world?

I loled.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 11, 2010, 08:19:05 PM
deliver hope is, like, the best videogame commercial ever, are you distinguished mentally-challenged or something?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2010, 08:24:42 PM
I like Halo but I've never really been big into the whole atmosphere of the game. It basically boils down to space marines fighting evil aliens. It's not the deepest take on sci-fi and honestly when it tries to get really "deep" that's when it either gets stupid or really baffling.

ODST was the most moody its gotten but I thought that was saddled by a lame gimmicky game.

Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 11, 2010, 08:32:11 PM
Just stopping by to LOL at the eternally supply constrained PS3.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2010, 08:40:15 PM
Would you prefer it if it had  a song from a famous pop star, and they were a merry band of warriors off to save the world?

Halo's been full of jokes, and friendly people, and saving the world, and races working together.  It's basically the star wars of fps.  It's a feel good pg-13 trip to save the world from the evil faceless flood and scary monkeys. 
ODST even had a cute pet alien you babysat. 

I prefer that friendly mood Halo over a gritty tough GEARS Halo.


deliver hope is, like, the best videogame commercial ever, are you distinguished mentally-challenged or something?

I don't even know what that is.

I saw a trailer that had a bunch of dudes land on a planet, run through big open empty environments shooting covenant that kept landing and bursting out of pods and then they get to a ship and fly into space and it becomes a crappy space shooter.  Looked the worst SP ever in a Halo.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 11, 2010, 08:43:33 PM
Except everyone's that played it feel it's one of the best...
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 11, 2010, 08:45:28 PM
They all die in this halo. This is the big defeat. The death of the other spartans. This is the fall of reach. This isn't supposed to be the "feel good" one.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 11, 2010, 08:54:33 PM
This is Halo's 9/11 Bebpo. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bocsius on September 11, 2010, 08:57:29 PM
Halo's 9/11 was Harvest.

And all the Spartans don't die on Reach. Then again, maybe they all do in this one, since Bungie can't be trusted to stick to a daggum literary adaptation. Bunch of hacks.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Barry Egan on September 11, 2010, 09:14:04 PM
Halo's 9/11 was Harvest.

This is a pretty disrespectful comparison imo.  An entire planet was glassed for christs sake. 
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 11, 2010, 10:11:46 PM
I don't even know what that is.

I saw a trailer that had a bunch of dudes land on a planet, run through big open empty environments shooting covenant that kept landing and bursting out of pods and then they get to a ship and fly into space and it becomes a crappy space shooter.  Looked the worst SP ever in a Halo.

watch this, in hd, then shut the fuck up, seriously you look like a jackass right now:

[youtube=560,345]JMYrKTU8Hmc[/youtube]
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 11, 2010, 10:23:20 PM
I got rejected from the GAF custom Halo 3 matches tonight :lol
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 11, 2010, 10:26:14 PM
I don't even know what that is.

I saw a trailer that had a bunch of dudes land on a planet, run through big open empty environments shooting covenant that kept landing and bursting out of pods and then they get to a ship and fly into space and it becomes a crappy space shooter.  Looked the worst SP ever in a Halo.

watch this, in hd, then shut the fuck up, seriously you look like a jackass right now:

[youtube=560,345]JMYrKTU8Hmc[/youtube]

Bebpo annihilated. Continues mumbling pop songs in the shower
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: originalz on September 11, 2010, 10:27:32 PM
You're bloody delusional if you don't think Reach is going to outsell ODST.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: AdmiralViscen on September 11, 2010, 10:45:20 PM
No one knew who Vee Aye Ess See Eee Enn was.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bebpo on September 11, 2010, 10:52:02 PM
I don't even know what that is.

I saw a trailer that had a bunch of dudes land on a planet, run through big open empty environments shooting covenant that kept landing and bursting out of pods and then they get to a ship and fly into space and it becomes a crappy space shooter.  Looked the worst SP ever in a Halo.

watch this, in hd, then shut the fuck up, seriously you look like a jackass right now:

[youtube=560,345]JMYrKTU8Hmc[/youtube]

So a commercial with no gameplay footage is supposed to get me hyped about a game?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 11, 2010, 10:53:23 PM
yes, you dirty hooknosed nerdwad
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 11, 2010, 11:14:56 PM


watch this, in hd, then shut the fuck up, seriously you look like a jackass right now:

[youtube=560,345]JMYrKTU8Hmc[/youtube]

and this supposed to make me excited? Really.

was way more hyped on the Halo 2 and Halo 3 tv spot/trailer they showed at the time.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bocsius on September 11, 2010, 11:25:06 PM
"There are those that said this day would never come.

What are they to say now?"

So ominous, and ultimately so unrewarding.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 11, 2010, 11:30:36 PM
"There are those that said this day would never come.

What are they to say now?"

So ominous, and ultimately so unrewarding.

yea the game didn't live up to the hype but i sure as hell hyped before that.

the ad and that long E3 demo they had was awesome (though they changed it alot in the final game).
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 11, 2010, 11:32:09 PM
Trolls hating on Halo, what a surprise. Guess they mad that Halo invented FPS  8)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 11, 2010, 11:33:03 PM
Trolls hating on Halo, what a surprise. Guess they mad that Halo invented FPS  8)

 :lol :lol
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 11, 2010, 11:34:31 PM
So a commercial with no gameplay footage is supposed to get me hyped about a game?

and this supposed to make me excited? Really.

was way more hyped on the Halo 2 and Halo 3 tv spot/trailer they showed at the time.

(http://www.hedweb.com/animimag/two-parrots.jpg)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bocsius on September 11, 2010, 11:43:56 PM
Halo is actually the only FPS I play. The rest of the genre can go disappear in an Afghan cave.

As much as I like to complain about Bungie's utter ineptitude when it comes to Halo's story, I still enjoy playing the games. (Not counting ODST, of course.)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 11, 2010, 11:46:07 PM
a pair of parrots sittin in a tree

K I S S I N G
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 11, 2010, 11:53:02 PM
Halo is actually the only FPS I play. The rest of the genre can go disappear in an Afghan cave.

As much as I like to complain about Bungie's utter ineptitude when it comes to Halo's story, I still enjoy playing the games. (Not counting ODST, of course.)

I liked Halo and Halo 2 a bit less, haven't played Halo 3 since i have no 360 yet but definitely "gonna finish the fight"  :lol

I have a friend who is a huge Halo fan and does not like ODST. Was fucking shocked when i heard that personally.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Cindi Mayweather on September 12, 2010, 12:18:09 AM
o god halo talk
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 12:29:30 AM
oh god you like jrpgs
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 12, 2010, 08:26:11 AM
Halo's aliens are pretty lame. But I think its done so well because of its extensive array of multiplayer options. How many fps this gen skip over things like 4 player local splitscreen these days?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 12, 2010, 08:56:43 AM
Mario is lame too :yuck
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Diunx on September 12, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
I don't even know what that is.

I saw a trailer that had a bunch of dudes land on a planet, run through big open empty environments shooting covenant that kept landing and bursting out of pods and then they get to a ship and fly into space and it becomes a crappy space shooter.  Looked the worst SP ever in a Halo.

watch this, in hd, then shut the fuck up, seriously you look like a jackass right now:

[youtube=560,345]JMYrKTU8Hmc[/youtube]

:rofl fucking halo fans.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 12, 2010, 10:26:25 AM
Mario is lame too :yuck

We weren't talking about mario.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 12, 2010, 10:36:16 AM
So?
This is not a topic about Halo either...we can talk about that sucky character named Mario too
 :smug
Trolls hating on Halo, what a surprise. Guess they mad that Halo invented FPS  8)

 :bow

They are just jealous...in few days the ultimate fps will be released...Halo :bow2
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: archie4208 on September 12, 2010, 10:51:38 AM
They are just jealous...in few days the ultimate fps will be released.

TF2 has been out for years.  ???
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 12, 2010, 10:53:08 AM
> he thinks TF2 is a good game :lol

> virgin for life
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Third on September 12, 2010, 11:02:54 AM
I don't even know what that is.

I saw a trailer that had a bunch of dudes land on a planet, run through big open empty environments shooting covenant that kept landing and bursting out of pods and then they get to a ship and fly into space and it becomes a crappy space shooter.  Looked the worst SP ever in a Halo.

watch this, in hd, then shut the fuck up, seriously you look like a jackass right now:

[youtube=560,345]JMYrKTU8Hmc[/youtube]

LOL, xfags falling for it again. The actual game is nowhere near as epic as that video. 
This is like showing the Epic Mickey concept art and then offering you the actuall game itself. Underwhelming as fuck  :lol
I'd say Epic Mickey comes more close to its concepts than Reach does...
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: iconoclast on September 12, 2010, 11:30:27 AM
TF2 is almost as casual as Call of Duty.

Counter-Strike 1.6, Q3A, and UT99/2K4 are the best competitive FPS, and at this rate probably always will be. But as far as consoles go, Halo CE and Shadowrun are unmatched.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 12, 2010, 11:32:02 AM
All I care about is fun. Whatever the "fun" fps is, I'll play. People can take their "competitive" listing of games and shove it. Just saying.

Halo is fun. Call of Duty is fun. Battlefield is fun. There are other shooters that are fun also. That's all normal human beings care about.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: The Fake Shemp on September 12, 2010, 11:40:08 AM
I'm with Stoney.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: iconoclast on September 12, 2010, 11:51:44 AM
All I care about is fun. Whatever the "fun" fps is, I'll play. People can take their "competitive" listing of games and shove it. Just saying.

Halo is fun. Call of Duty is fun. Battlefield is fun. There are other shooters that are fun also. That's all normal human beings care about.

To many people, the fun games are the ones that are competitive.

I hate to even mention this game, but it's like people who complain about competitive Smash Bros. players. They can like playing the game with items and wacky gimmick stages, but a lot of people find that to be a far cry from fun and only want to play with items off, Fox only, on Final Destination. Just saying. :)
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 12, 2010, 11:55:10 AM
There is all kinds of fun. As long as people enjoy their own kind of fun without overly whining about other kinds of fun (not necessarily aimed at you) I'm cool with it.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Third on September 12, 2010, 12:01:35 PM
The only fun fps game is Half-Life.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 12, 2010, 12:06:09 PM
I'm with Stoney.

what a wuss reply. you just saying this cause he is black. librul.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 12, 2010, 12:14:00 PM
They've all been fun.

* Fun only found in Legendary difficulty
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: iconoclast on September 12, 2010, 12:17:29 PM
The only fun fps game is Duke Nukem 3D

:rock
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Great Rumbler on September 12, 2010, 12:33:24 PM
I played and beat Halo 1, then tooled around with Halo 2 a bit. Haven't really been interested in the franchise since.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: archie4208 on September 12, 2010, 12:49:49 PM
Doom and TF2 are the only FPS I really adore.  I found CoD4 to be fun for awhile and Halo 3 to be a snorefest.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: iconoclast on September 12, 2010, 12:54:50 PM
Halo 2 is probably my most disappointing game of all time. It was still good in its own right, but as a sequel to Halo CE, Bungie blew it big time. Halo 3 was better, but it was still kinda meh. I've got high hopes for Reach though.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 12, 2010, 01:00:27 PM
if u like gaylo you just aint my friend sorry guys
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 12, 2010, 01:01:47 PM
Would you prefer it if it had  a song from a famous pop star, and they were a merry band of warriors off to save the world?
:rofl
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Stoney Mason on September 12, 2010, 01:07:11 PM
My feelings toward Halo have always been centered around the MP portion.


I liked the original especially as the last remnants of that N64 gather around a console and play split screen. The single player was interesting for its time but I also remeber finding it repetitive and confusing with the level layout. But it had great graphics for the time and some nice scripting which was rare in console single player games of the time.

Halo 2 I played a shitload. I remember crazy times of waking up and playing it and going to bed and playing it and having done nothing at all in between but play that game. In retrospect Halo 2 had some balance issues on the mp side but it was still the best console fps by a large margin of the era and the online features it had at the time were unmatched. I didn't understand a lick of the sp storywise but the gameplay seemed fun enough in it.

I think Halo 3 was a good balanced game that for whatever reason never clicked with me. I remember being super impressed with it when I bought it. It had all these new features and such. But other games were starting to rise around that time that I was finding more enjoyable and more interesting. I checked out on Halo 3 much earlier than I thought I would.

The less said about ODST the better from my perspective.

And Reach seems like a greatest hits edition of Halo which seems about right after a decade of Halo games and bungie leaving.

I'm honestly more curious about the next halo game from 343 and to see if they mix it up. But I am excited to play Reach. We'll see if it ends up being more like Halo 2 (I play a ton) or Halo 3 (good but I prefer other games) for me.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 12, 2010, 01:17:11 PM
I played the hell out of Halo 1.  People loved it because it was the best console FPS around for years.  Large maps, interesting multiplayer modes, great weapons, and fun vehicle gameplay.

Bought Halo 2 day one, played it through but stopped after that.  MP maps didn't seem as fun.

Skipped Halo 3 and ODST.  Just seems like they were going through the motions (for the former) and just putting something Halo out to get some easy cash (the latter).

Reach seems interesting though but somewhat of a shell of the older Halo games of generations past.  Will Gamefly it for sure.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
if u like gaylo you just aint my friend sorry guys

hey how does it feel to be on the losing team this month, loser?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 12, 2010, 01:23:20 PM
if u like gaylo you just aint my friend sorry guys

hey how does it feel to be on the losing team this month, loser?

i havent played my ps3 in am onth im over it next time i turn it on will be ps move this friday
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 02:11:14 PM
yeah, you have fun playing vaporware with your magic wand while we play one of the biggest gaming blockbusters of the year
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 12, 2010, 02:47:14 PM
DONT HATE ME BECAUSE I MAKE MONEY AND LIKE TO BUY VIDJA GAMES
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 03:24:23 PM
too bad you dont like to play videogames, otherwise you'd own a 360
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 12, 2010, 03:34:25 PM
Evilbore has shittier npd threads than gaf. Losers!

Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 12, 2010, 04:01:37 PM
that Deliver Hope ad is pretty much exactly like the parody I came up with a few weeks ago with my coworkers

so tired of the Halo/Gears military fetishism/slo-mo/"moving" piano or acoustic soundtrack/CG commercial nonsense

"see, it's a space military shooter, but this commercial is set to something slow and contemplative instead of Hans Zimmer, wowwwwwwwwww"

it's the exact same RAH RAH jingoistic nonsense as Michael Bay only it has the added side effect of making you all look like weepy figurts to boot. at least Bay is honest about his obscene emotional manipulations.

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I'm not talking about the game at all, just the awful, awful commercials. :P
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Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Cindi Mayweather on September 12, 2010, 04:12:33 PM
ahaahaha
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 12, 2010, 04:45:50 PM
Evilbore has shittier npd threads than gaf. Losers!

its sad to say that i actually agree with this  :'(
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 04:52:34 PM
that Deliver Hope ad is pretty much exactly like the parody I came up with a few weeks ago with my coworkers

so tired of the Halo/Gears military fetishism/slo-mo/"moving" piano or acoustic soundtrack/CG commercial nonsense

"see, it's a space military shooter, but this commercial is set to something slow and contemplative instead of Hans Zimmer, wowwwwwwwwww"

it's the exact same RAH RAH jingoistic nonsense as Michael Bay only it has the added side effect of making you all look like weepy figurts to boot. at least Bay is honest about his obscene emotional manipulations.

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I'm not talking about the game at all, just the awful, awful commercials. :P
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oh youre just so jaded and over it and cool, arent you? fucker.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Robo on September 12, 2010, 04:58:34 PM
Evilbore has shittier npd threads than gaf. Losers!


This.  Jesus Christ, this.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 05:02:46 PM
jesus christ, all you do is complain nowadays
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 12, 2010, 05:04:37 PM
I agree.  Let's steer the conversation towards the PS3 being dead last...again.  I wonder if Sony is going to hit $6 billion in the red over this debacle when it is all said and done.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
howard allen treesongs avatar is perfect for him, i can just imagine a guy with those glasses and a cunty expression on his face, who has a bleeding heart for fag political issues, droning on about how fucking with it he is all the god damn time
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 12, 2010, 05:07:10 PM
Patel would prefer something akin to this

[youtube=560,345]4q84uZff3Og[/youtube]

Piano  :'(

Random nihongo gibberish  :'(

Little boys  :'(

Random snippets of empty fields  :'(
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on September 12, 2010, 05:08:38 PM
howard allen treesongs avatar is perfect for him, i can just imagine a guy with those glasses and a cunty expression on his face, who has a bleeding heart for fag political issues, droning on about how fucking with it he is all the god damn time

u mad son
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 05:22:17 PM
look at that annihilation, somebody give me a high five
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 12, 2010, 05:31:12 PM
howard allen treesongs avatar is perfect for him, i can just imagine a guy with those glasses and a cunty expression on his face, who has a bleeding heart for fag political issues, droning on about how fucking with it he is all the god damn time

that's why I chose the avatar

:bow Michael Caine :bow2
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 12, 2010, 05:34:40 PM
too bad you dont like to play videogames, otherwise you'd own a 360

i own a 360 wii and ap s3 and a ds and a psp
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on September 12, 2010, 07:21:09 PM
too bad you dont like to play videogames, otherwise you'd own a 360

i own a 360 wii and ap s3 and a ds and a psp

Which bayonetta did you buy?
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Diunx on September 12, 2010, 07:46:05 PM
ps3 is still better than the 360 though.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 12, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
i dont see how a rational person could think that
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Bocsius on September 12, 2010, 07:59:25 PM
PS3 inarguably has the better blu-ray player, I defy anyone to suggest otherwise.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Purple Filth on September 12, 2010, 08:04:28 PM
Ah, so sweet. Another about turn , trou drop, touch toe exercise for the Sony Kazuals :

"lol GAYLO!!!" ---> "oh Killzone and Resistance ? Oh i like FPSes now! This is my first one, how do they work again?"

"lol waggle gaming isn't gaming, lol Wii" ---> "Oh i like waggle now as long as i have a glowing dildo as a controller and a camera to watch my every move! I'm an attention whore that way, this is as good as it gets. Are there any good games for it? Oh sweet, i always wanted to play a waggle sports game!"

Sony fans don't need to be trolled any more , they do i themselves - you just have to give them a year or two and all thier trolling comes back to impose the most horrific style of "nuke from orbit" ownership.

Enjoy your Move, Methodis! Full report please!

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mine has been in my in cart, out my in card, in my in cart and it is, as of this morning, back out... i'll usually give anything a whirl but i seriously can't see me playing any of the games. Will hold until Time Crisis most likely
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Give us an update when you test it out
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 12, 2010, 08:34:42 PM
i didnt buy bayonetta i rented it for 360

:patelit
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 16, 2010, 03:51:38 AM
Some sales talk

For the people that thought that REACH won't outsell ODST :lol

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From TGS conference...$200 million on day one....and 360 is currently number one selling console in EU

And from Gamasutra...360 slim>PS3 slim
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/30316/Analysis_Xbox_360_S_Model_Tracking_Ahead_of_PS3_Slim.php (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/30316/Analysis_Xbox_360_S_Model_Tracking_Ahead_of_PS3_Slim.php)

/xbot

Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 16, 2010, 04:04:20 AM
Worldwide.

It would be about 3.3 million if average was $60...my guess is somewhere between 2.5-3 million
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: maxy on September 16, 2010, 04:13:51 AM
It has,Halo 3 sold like $170 million in first 24 hours
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: demi on September 16, 2010, 06:20:34 AM
Sorry Kosma. Play Reach
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 16, 2010, 07:14:05 AM
Brand may not have peaked but the game did with Halo 1.

dude, reach is better than 1, no joke
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: tiesto on September 16, 2010, 09:15:16 AM
I've only played the first 3... 1 was decent, didn't care for 2, liked 3 up until the final 2 stages. Heard ODST sucked though so never bothered with that.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 16, 2010, 09:18:19 AM
well I'M telling you right now it's the best in the series, its exceeded any expectations i had so far
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on September 16, 2010, 09:51:48 AM
tiesto i fucking hate gaylo i want to burn it to a stake and kill any xbox fan who loves it but god damn if Reach isnt fun and amazing
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 16, 2010, 09:57:08 AM
it makes you wonder how the hell halo 3 and odst even happened, it makes them look like ps2 games
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: pilonv1 on September 16, 2010, 09:58:43 AM
It has,Halo 3 sold like $170 million in first 24 hours

Halo Reach also has more expensive SKUs than Halo 3 did. It needs to sell more copies.

No it doesn't, the value is the only thing that matters.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: tiesto on September 16, 2010, 10:00:24 AM
tiesto i fucking hate gaylo i want to burn it to a stake and kill any xbox fan who loves it but god damn if Reach isnt fun and amazing

Cool, my brother will be in town this weekend so he'll undoubtedly bring his copy back with him, so I can check it out then.
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 16, 2010, 10:03:15 AM
its probably the adderall talking but has anyone been constantly switching back and forth between normal brightness and brighter? the latter looks a lot cleaner but you lose some color and shadows, i seriously had to of switched it at least a hundred times by now :-\
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: drew on September 16, 2010, 11:18:01 AM
i know :lol havent slept for 2 nights now :-\
Title: Re: August NPD
Post by: Philip Cardgage on September 16, 2010, 11:20:31 AM
Can I change my Drew Death pool vote again?