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« Reply #37080 on: October 08, 2019, 09:55:59 AM »
Saw the Harley Quinn trailer and wow this looks really bad and a return to ugly and usual fare. Maybe I'm wrong but I think the Joker honeymoon is going to be short lived.

Saw The Big Short. Not a fan of the visual and directing flourishes of this (those celebrity cameos to explain bad securities... Meh.) but I guess it's sort of an unimpeachable film given the subject matter, the heart is in the right place.
margin call works as nice counter stylistically to the big short if you want to watch another movie on the financial crisis

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« Reply #37081 on: October 08, 2019, 09:59:43 AM »
The most hilarious party of all this kneejerk "woke" criticism is that the actual bad guy of the film is Thomas Wayne. He's the one blatantly portrayed as the Trump figure. He's the one who represents "The Man". Joker actually has more in common with the woke crowd; the disadvantaged, the downtrodden.

Race plays absolutely no part in the story, neither does feminism. Any reviewer saying otherwise has clearly not watched the whole film and most likely is basing their review on the trailers.
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« Reply #37082 on: October 08, 2019, 10:22:49 AM »
Saw the Harley Quinn trailer and wow this looks really bad and a return to ugly and usual fare. Maybe I'm wrong but I think the Joker honeymoon is going to be short lived.

Saw The Big Short. Not a fan of the visual and directing flourishes of this (those celebrity cameos to explain bad securities... Meh.) but I guess it's sort of an unimpeachable film given the subject matter, the heart is in the right place.
margin call works as nice counter stylistically to the big short if you want to watch another movie on the financial crisis

I liked Margin Call quite a bit, yeah. I think it encapsulates things in a more elegant manner.
Too Big to Fail is a decent TV film if you're interested to have the establishment case illustrated.
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« Reply #37083 on: October 08, 2019, 02:31:18 PM »
Rewatched Casino. I only was curious for the intro but the film passed by as a breeze. I still think the final act is still maybe too similar to Goodfellas but the whole is still enjoyable. The wardrobe and set work is bonkers, the first 40mn are amazing and the soundtrack licencing must have cost an arm. Cool Bass intro too.
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« Reply #37084 on: October 08, 2019, 03:55:14 PM »
Casino >>>>>>> Goodfellas

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« Reply #37085 on: October 08, 2019, 05:15:13 PM »
Casino >>>>>>> Goodfellas

I dunno but to each his own. I think the Joe Pesci arc is more fresh and more fulfilling in Goodfellas.
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« Reply #37086 on: October 08, 2019, 05:19:13 PM »


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« Reply #37087 on: October 08, 2019, 06:24:11 PM »
the day shall come is awful, I have no idea why it reviewed so well.

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« Reply #37088 on: October 09, 2019, 09:34:18 AM »
The Rabid remake.



I don't know what's worse. How has the look of a corporate video throughout or that they pull a Neil Breen and throw stock footage in constantly.

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« Reply #37089 on: October 09, 2019, 11:29:13 AM »
the day shall come is awful, I have no idea why it reviewed so well.
Did you hate Four Lions too? Or is this one worse?
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« Reply #37090 on: October 10, 2019, 05:45:55 PM »
Inherent Vice : I liked it. It's kind of boring and meandering. Curious to see the Master and Phantom Thread.
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« Reply #37091 on: October 10, 2019, 10:54:05 PM »
Also Batman is now the emo from Twilight. I forgot about that until recently.  :doge

Don't sell Pattinson short just because Twilight sucks. Cronenberg's Cosmopolis shows some actual darkness resting there in him, and Rover really shows his range.

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« Reply #37092 on: October 10, 2019, 11:26:34 PM »
The Master and Phantom Thread are PTA's best. Fantastic from top to bottom. In a similar level of cinema, I got tickets to the Jay and Silent Bob double feature next week when the new one comes out. :lol

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« Reply #37093 on: October 11, 2019, 12:13:29 AM »
Also Batman is now the emo from Twilight. I forgot about that until recently.  :doge

Don't sell Pattinson short just because Twilight sucks. Cronenberg's Cosmopolis shows some actual darkness resting there in him, and Rover really shows his range.

And Lighthouse :jeb
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« Reply #37094 on: October 11, 2019, 02:35:20 AM »
He was also dope in Damsel, but then
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« Reply #37095 on: October 11, 2019, 04:49:04 AM »
Also Batman is now the emo from Twilight. I forgot about that until recently.  :doge

Don't sell Pattinson short just because Twilight sucks. Cronenberg's Cosmopolis shows some actual darkness resting there in him, and Rover really shows his range.
I forgot he was in Rover, yeah he's really good.
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« Reply #37096 on: October 11, 2019, 04:50:12 AM »
Does he ever play just a normal person though

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« Reply #37097 on: October 11, 2019, 12:28:10 PM »
El Camino was kind of a pointless endeavor.  :-\
Wasn't particularly atrocious or anything, just adds nothing to the world of the show nor the character of Jesse, and it's just 2 hours of things that are either inconsequential, or that you could've just assumed on your own.

Reminded me a bit of the Deadwood movie in that sense, but that one at least embraced its time jump, which would've helped this movie greatly.
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« Reply #37098 on: October 11, 2019, 02:34:44 PM »
Does he ever play just a normal person though

The stupid iPhone 11 commercial song contains the answer

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« Reply #37099 on: October 11, 2019, 09:27:57 PM »
Went to rewatch The Verdict and they took it off Netflix... I just saw it less than a year ago. Seems like every good movie gets pulled without fail.
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« Reply #37100 on: October 11, 2019, 10:08:59 PM »
She Gotta Have It  :playa
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« Reply #37101 on: October 11, 2019, 10:30:39 PM »
Feels good to have two new hours of Breaking Bad :rejoice Glad they didn't backpedal to some blatant happy ending or whatever.

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« Reply #37102 on: October 11, 2019, 11:37:58 PM »
Robert Forster  :(

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« Reply #37103 on: October 12, 2019, 01:06:06 AM »
Casino >>>>>>> Goodfellas

When the fuck did RC Cola become better than Pepsi?  :heh

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« Reply #37104 on: October 12, 2019, 01:31:38 AM »
Robert Forster  :(

just after dropping a new movie today :goty

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« Reply #37105 on: October 12, 2019, 07:29:18 AM »
Robert Forster  :(
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RIP, guy from the only Tarantino movie i liked.
Was hoping to see him again in the new Twin Peaks season, too.
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« Reply #37106 on: October 12, 2019, 09:45:04 AM »
Saw the trailer for the next Costa Gavras film about the Greek debt negotiations. It's an amazing fit for him, I'm very curious.
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« Reply #37107 on: October 12, 2019, 10:16:31 AM »
Saw The Joker with the wife last night. Don't get the complaints from the REEE type people, it's a villain movie it's SUPPOSED to make you uncomfortable. Also I heard a lot of critics saying nothing exciting happens. That's also true, but it's not a marvel film. I really liked it. I think Joaquin really holds his own against Ledger's joker maybe even surpasses him in some spots and gives a really great performance.  I might actually go see it again as all the (older) kids really want to.

EDIT: also that CNN article and articles like it, sorta make the Joker's whole point, better than the movie could actually.
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« Reply #37108 on: October 12, 2019, 10:17:05 AM »
Robert Forster  :(
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RIP, guy from the only Tarantino movie i liked.
Was hoping to see him again in the new Twin Peaks season, too.

oh shit I completely forgot he was in there

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« Reply #37109 on: October 12, 2019, 11:38:37 AM »
El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie (2019)


Fine, completely unnecessary, did nothing to make me want to rewatch or see a further continuation of Breaking Bad. I liked how they were trying to hide Jesse Plemons going from Meth Damon to Fatt Damon and then gave up on that completely :lol  I'm pretty sure this is what Vince Gilligan said happened after the final episode anyway, so it feels like everyone was just itching for a reason to make some more money off of Breaking Bad.

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« Reply #37110 on: October 12, 2019, 11:44:04 AM »
https://www.mediaversityreviews.com/film-reviews/2019/10/6/joker

This might be the best review i've read in my entire life

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« Reply #37111 on: October 12, 2019, 11:45:39 AM »
 :nope

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« Reply #37112 on: October 12, 2019, 11:47:15 AM »
https://www.mediaversityreviews.com/film-reviews/2019/10/6/joker

This might be the best review i've read in my entire life

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In preparing to write this review, I did something absurd: I rewatched every episode—458 of them—in order over the course of two months. I filled a journal with notes as I watched, full of things that won’t fit into this review.

I kept track of how often one of the detectives threatened a suspect with prison rape (way too often) and whenever the death penalty came up (they finally stopped mentioning it after New York State officially prohibited it in 2007.) I made notes on episodes’ treatment of mental health (some good, some infuriating) and whenever a rape allegation that turned out to be false entered the narrative (as in real life, it’s hard to calculate—but it’s rare.) At one point, and after several glasses of wine, I convinced myself that I had uncovered a vast conspiracy involving a writer that didn’t exist and a nefarious corporate agenda. (I hadn’t. Probably.) Mostly, I reaffirmed what I already knew: Watching SVU is emotionally exhausting, but it has to be.


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« Reply #37113 on: October 12, 2019, 11:56:11 AM »
https://www.mediaversityreviews.com/film-reviews/2019/10/6/joker

This might be the best review i've read in my entire life
Wait wait wait. How does it pass the Bechdel test? I don't recall two important women talking to each other about something other than a man. Elevator scene where Arthur's love interest has a 5 second moment with her daughter saying "shit sucks" does not count.

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« Reply #37115 on: October 12, 2019, 10:28:35 PM »
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - I can sort of see why it'd be boo'd at Cannes. It feels like it's bordering on parody of the series at some points.

I feel bad for Sheryl Lee, given 80% of the film she's crying or having to act high/drunk (for a "good reason" in the sense that her dad is fucking raping her/abusing her damn near nightly and that she's a prostitute for drugs to try to forget this) while there's certain things like Donna's recast (due to scheduling issues with Lara Flynn Boyle) and then having sex with these two johns that Laura was picking up that isn't hinted at in the TV series.

Just feels like they put Laura into a "really bad situation" to make her death/abuse by Leland land more.

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« Reply #37116 on: October 13, 2019, 03:05:36 AM »
I saw The King of Comedy for the first time yesterday, a movie said to be a big influence on Joker (which I haven't seen yet).

It's ok. Obviously an early 80's flick. More "cinema" than blockbuster material. It's about people obsessed with celebrities, desperate for fame themselves. De Niro plays one such character, an annoying little twerp, never takes no for an answer, sticks to people like flies to shit, delusional, lies through his teeth and will do anything to get what he wants. As the "hero" in the story, he...

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I'm surprised TKoC cost 19 million to make though (36 years ago), that's more than Tron, Raiders of the Lost Ark, E.T., Wrath of Khan or Empire Strikes Back's budget. TKoC has like 7 characters, a few exterior shots of NY, no special effects whatsoever and a bunch of studio scenes. Was Jerry Lewis demanding a 10 million paycheck? :)
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« Reply #37117 on: October 13, 2019, 08:07:02 AM »
THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST.

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« Reply #37118 on: October 13, 2019, 09:29:22 AM »
Btw, to the people who saw Ad Astra, did they cut a bit from the movie that was in the trailer?



The bit at 1:13 - 1:16 with the shirtless cowboy hologram, I don't remember that being in the movie

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« Reply #37119 on: October 13, 2019, 09:36:11 AM »
I don't remember that and I have a hard time placing the scene. If I had to guess, I would say it relates to the public, commercial zone of the Moon he arrives at.
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« Reply #37120 on: October 13, 2019, 11:16:49 AM »
After watching David Lynch's 'Art Life’ it puts a lot of his darkness into context. Which is to say, Philadelphia apparently really fucked him up. His childhood seemed saccharine with moments of darkness but a lot of the violent inspirations seem to come from Philly experienced as a young adult. Societal indifference, mental illness,  urban decay. Goes to show when inspiration strikes the effects can be profound.
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« Reply #37121 on: October 13, 2019, 02:02:06 PM »
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - I can sort of see why it'd be boo'd at Cannes. It feels like it's bordering on parody of the series at some points.

I feel bad for Sheryl Lee, given 80% of the film she's crying or having to act high/drunk (for a "good reason" in the sense that her dad is fucking raping her/abusing her damn near nightly and that she's a prostitute for drugs to try to forget this) while there's certain things like Donna's recast (due to scheduling issues with Lara Flynn Boyle) and then having sex with these two johns that Laura was picking up that isn't hinted at in the TV series.

Just feels like they put Laura into a "really bad situation" to make her death/abuse by Leland land more.

The RLM reView for this is good and touches on a lot of stuff you mentioned:

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« Reply #37122 on: October 13, 2019, 03:41:51 PM »
In El Otro Cristobal there's a Latin America military dictatorship, there's a pharaonic canal project backed by financial interests and the USA, there's social unrest brewing but there's also Olofi sitting in his divine throne. All the student strikes are disrupting his baseball viewing and bored he decides to oblige when a prisoner curses the head of state : the dictator shoots himself. While down below the Cabinet is desperately trying to delay the news and cover up his death to secure the canal project, the late admiral is blocked into a purgatory casino where you play for your salvation using good deed tokens. Frustrated, he start planning a coup against God. The guerilla will have to take the fight to the heavens...

A Franco-Cuban production from 1963 (lead role is held by Jean Bouise, an iconic character actor from the 60-70s) the film was recently salvaged from elements found in France and in the Cuban archives. It's an absurdist, surreal revolutionary tale with some striking imagery and that remains playful all the way through proving that not all Marxist Leninist films have to be somber affairs.

I don't know how wide any distribution will be besides this round of screenings, but maybe there'll be a home video release at some point.

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« Reply #37123 on: October 13, 2019, 11:36:06 PM »
Btw, to the people who saw Ad Astra, did they cut a bit from the movie that was in the trailer?



The bit at 1:13 - 1:16 with the shirtless cowboy hologram, I don't remember that being in the movie
I do not recall that being in the movie. There was no "first 5 minutes of Half-Life 2" type of scene in the theater cut.

Saw The Love Witch. thought it was great. So nice to see a movie like that. Plays like a B movie and yet underneath it all it's far from that. There were moments where I'm like "lol Midsommar ripped this movie off" in jest as I highly doubt it. It's just funny that there are bits and pieces that remind me of it pretty heavily. Some parts were sort of Twin Peaks-ey too. The director should get together with David Lynch and make some glorious monstrosity. I'd be there day 1.

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« Reply #37124 on: October 14, 2019, 02:04:33 AM »
The Love Witch is a must see! So good.
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« Reply #37125 on: October 14, 2019, 08:30:35 AM »
I thought it was pretty good, not great.
It's got a fun tone, and it plays with its themes in a lighthearted way.
Been a couple of years since i watched it though, so i only remember the gist of it.
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« Reply #37126 on: October 14, 2019, 01:43:32 PM »
The outfits in The Love Witch are freakin stellar too. I was always curious what would be worn in the next scene. That women's only restaurant was great for that too.

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« Reply #37127 on: October 14, 2019, 03:32:19 PM »
watched the fear of 13, holy fuck that was awful do not watch.

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« Reply #37128 on: October 14, 2019, 05:46:50 PM »
was looking for something to watch when blazed on netflix at a friends place and settled on bladerunner. i thought, oh, i've never seen the original theatrical cut. have seen directors/final cuts only.

goddamn. i haaaaaaaate deckards narration. turned it off and purged it from my brain. kills the vibe.
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« Reply #37129 on: October 14, 2019, 06:30:19 PM »
got this to watch tonight



watched shoplifters last night. very cute, with some real heft behind it. loved the pacing, i can imagine some finding it a little slow but it really allowed breathing room for each event and every sequence flowed so well into the next. love a story well told, and it never really felt overwrought despite a strong message and the ending being a bit of a tear jerker (i guess this could be considered overwrought, but life really do just be like that sometimes). nice examination of the family unit, the meaning of parenthood and the potential for misguided judgement by a contextless society. enjoyed it more than i thought i was going to, and i thought it looked great!

think i have a real soft spot for films in this vein. parasite is my favourite film of the year.

this is also finally available for purchase now (and there are some dl's available from the usual places). if a surreal dive into russian bureaucracy and corruption on a very local level sounds good to you, jump in.






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« Reply #37130 on: October 14, 2019, 07:02:18 PM »
watched shoplifters last night. very cute, with some real heft behind it. loved the pacing, i can imagine some finding it a little slow but it really allowed breathing room for each event and every sequence flowed so well into the next. love a story well told, and it never really felt overwrought despite a strong message and the ending being a bit of a tear jerker (i guess this could be considered overwrought, but life really do just be like that sometimes). nice examination of the family unit, the meaning of parenthood and the potential for misguided judgement by a contextless society. enjoyed it more than i thought i was going to, and i thought it looked great!
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  :( It's just a rough situation all around.

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« Reply #37131 on: October 14, 2019, 08:21:55 PM »
Pulse is good.  :preach
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« Reply #37132 on: October 14, 2019, 09:12:54 PM »
haha, yeah i really felt like a 2000s horror.

The family
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  :( It's just a rough situation all around.

totally. the main family are all lovable rogues, but it went beyond that, living on the fringe actually gave them more genuine empathy for someone suffering abuse than others who only looked to the acceptable veneer of the biological parents. their lifestyle wasn't great, but it was warm and comforting compared to a life of indifference and abuse.

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also, caught hustlers the other night. i was expecting something a lot more interesting than the facile lurid mess it was after all the hype it's received. women be shopping! there was some cool stuff, j-lo was great, but the characters were extremely disappointingly 2 dimensional and they kinda glossed over, while also pointing out, they were not only exploiting men but other women they were luring into joining their group. it was meant to be a condemnation of but in some ways, also felt like a celebration of empowerment in capitalism. get that money gorl. the beginning and ending were quite strong, but the core of the movie was flat and bland. not for me.
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« Reply #37133 on: October 15, 2019, 04:27:07 AM »
I don't think I ever made a post about Fires in the Plain and the Legacy of the 500.000 that I saw not too long ago, right ? I need to draft that.
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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #37134 on: October 15, 2019, 07:55:01 AM »
The Legacy of the 500.000 is the only directorial effort of actor Toshiro Mifune, which he also produced and of course starred in. He plays as Matsuo, seemingly an humble supervisor at a pencil making company. His past as a Imperial commander gets dug up when contacted by a businessman (Fellow acting legend Tatsuya Nakadai) he crossed paths with during the war in occupied Mandchuria. Turns out Matsuo was in charge, and the only survivor, of the party ordered to hide a cache of Japanese gold coins -supposed to support the occupied economy- somewhere in the Philippines during the nightmarish retreat of the Imperial forces. The businessman claims he only want to repatriate the gold to give it back to the struggling families that pawned it to the government. He quickly resort to kidnapping and blackmailing when he gets stonewalled however, and Matsuo is forcibly shipped with a party of thugs to the Philippines...

This is a pleasant B movie to watch though the direction is mostly functional (very good writing and pacing are doing the heavy work. Very abrupt ending, B film style, though), a touching tale about greed and human solidarity taking cues from American standards (strong Sierra Madre... vibes, notably). The politics quickly take a backseat to the moral questions but, as you would probably expect from an early 60s film, it's distinctly apologetic though not to insufferable levels (I would imagine the Filipino authorities would not have appreciated it, a lot of the film is shot on location). The very first scene of the film is about how the gold came from impoverished Japanese citizens, a footnote in the actual plot but clearly a point Mifune wanted to emphasize. The film is peppered with those sort of Japanese idiosyncracies (another faint accent is America pulling strings) despite, again, being mostly about broader morality questions. All in all worth your time and begs the question of why Mifune didn't direct more. Maybe he didn't have the knack for it ?

French label Carlotta is distributing it on Home Video & VOD (and has a small rerelease on screens) in a master that received some amount of restoration so maybe you can catch it somewhere.

The Philippines retreat is also at the core of Kon Ichikawa's Fires in the Plain, made a handful of years earlier, not as a distant sobering memory for the protagonist however. Ensign Tamura is too ill to be any use for his battalion but not sick enough to be admitted to the already strained field hospital and end up caught in the US offensive while he is being ping-ponged between the two. Tamura start wandering aimlessly in the general direction of a retreat turning more desperate and hellish by the hour, shredding whatever is left of his humanity and decency.

Kon Ichikawa is famous for the Burmese Harp (and directing the official film of the Tokyo Olympics of 64) so suffice it to say that his visual flair is a lot stronger than Mifune. Fires in the Plain is a vivid, expressionist and striking film which sometimes veers as far as horrific tones (might have influenced some later movies even).

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While still told mostly from a Japanese perspective (it's interesting to note that in both films a background character mentions the New Guinea retreat for a similar effect), Ichikawa has no interest whatsoever for patriotic politeness. It is a journey through the purgatory for Tamura, with no illusion of a redemption to be found, only the struggle to not give in to the basest instincts, to commit the final outrage.

It's somber, meditative and could maybe drag for you. Cult director Tsukamoto liked it so much he remaked it in 2014 (I've been told he's mostly focusing on one specific sequence to turn it even more graphical).

Carlotta is also distributing that one over here though it's much more likely it's been picked up in the US too. My viewing was a bit soured by some digital restoration artifacts, mostly in the first reel. I would imagine that's sadly on the Japanese master though I can't be sure of that.
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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #37135 on: October 15, 2019, 08:58:30 AM »
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - I can sort of see why it'd be boo'd at Cannes. It feels like it's bordering on parody of the series at some points.

I feel bad for Sheryl Lee, given 80% of the film she's crying or having to act high/drunk (for a "good reason" in the sense that her dad is fucking raping her/abusing her damn near nightly and that she's a prostitute for drugs to try to forget this) while there's certain things like Donna's recast (due to scheduling issues with Lara Flynn Boyle) and then having sex with these two johns that Laura was picking up that isn't hinted at in the TV series.

Just feels like they put Laura into a "really bad situation" to make her death/abuse by Leland land more.

The RLM reView for this is good and touches on a lot of stuff you mentioned:


I don't think they necessarily agree with me: But I finished the TV series and started (literally right after) the movie. They show bits and pieces of the deleted scenes that are featured in "the Missing Pieces" but I don't think those moments (like the dinner where they're talking and laughing) would fix the mess that the film (and the final cut/1992 release that I saw on DVD) is.

The major problem is we didn't really need a Laura Palmer backstory. Sure, it's a "nice to have" thing but: We know Laura was on drugs, we know her father was raping her (only because of a paranormal ghost), recreating that is nothing more than "torture porn," (in my opinion) and retreading ground that didn't need to be done.

Apparently the scenes that were cut are for other characters, and maybe having those (and not focusing on Laura so much) would've made the movie the "TV show continuation" that folks wanted at the time with some proper conclusions (but without Cooper's possession that was apparently filmed in the film but never explained just like the final minutes of the show/original run).

But I'm not a David Lynch fan (I've seen Mulholland Drive, and that's about it) so I don't know his style. But coming from the TV show (which like they mention in the 20min intro [Jesus, Jay... way to copy the movie]) which parody's soap opera's until (like they mention) the killer is revealed and then the show becomes this lost at sea super natural stuff until the end/Cooper's partner returns, the movie... doesn't work. It doesn't do anything new, it really is just Laura being abused and... I don't need 2 hours 15 minutes (of which that's like 1hr 15mins actually) of Laura being tortured/on Coke. They could've done a more... I don't know the word... emotional? cerebral? mind-thought experiment of Laura's abuse without showing it or having Leland (at least in the final cut) be this weird-ass abusive father that (coming from the show) you already know he's possessed. I mean they even hint at it with Laura running out of the house when Leland/Bob is at her secret diary, so at that point the scene wasn't really needed but they bring it back just... to... have Lee cry/act shocked (which like their RE:view states is a good acting scene by Lee).

It just doesn't work for me.

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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #37136 on: October 15, 2019, 10:51:03 AM »
Appreciate the write up VomKriege. Can't say I've heard of those movies, but I'm rather curious to give them a shot if I happen to come across them.

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« Reply #37137 on: October 15, 2019, 10:58:03 AM »
Fire Walk With Me is more interesting than the whole Season 1 and 2 of the show for me, and i loved both seasons.
It's funny that Laura lost her guardian angel in FWWM, and she essentially portrayed one, at the end of Wild at Heart.

I'll admit Lynch is probably my favorite artist, but i think a connection with his style happens more on a visceral level.
I don't see how anyone could appreaciate something like Inland Empire otherwise.

The show hints at how tormented she was, but to inhabit that nightmare directly, is a very different story.
I mean it's clear that they sort of make up the Twin Peaks lore as they go along, and if you examine it that way, it's not even all that interesting (it's essentially just heaven, hell, and a bunch of demons), so the value is definitely in the journey of exploring these dreamscapes first hand.
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« Reply #37138 on: October 15, 2019, 04:23:18 PM »
I dunno. I didn't really care super strongly for the entire series. But Season 1 was (IMO) the strongest BECAUSE it had the Laura Murder thing going on. I do agree with ABC that that shit should've wrapped up, and season 2 gives the strongest episode of the series with the Leland reveal, but after that they take like 5 episodes before the paranormal element comes back, which at that point it's like "why didn't Cooper chase Bob or at least try to flush him out?"

Billy Zane for 5 episodes though: :lawd

Edit: I do need to get around to the "Return"/season 3, but Showtime wants like $40 on Google Play TV right now which is serious "fuck that" territory for me.

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« Reply #37139 on: October 15, 2019, 04:28:35 PM »
Tbh I think I'd rather rewatch the aimless goofy nonsense in the the middle of season 2 than season 3 again. The more time there is to think about season 3, the more I dislike it and think I got worked.