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« Reply #37320 on: November 04, 2019, 10:16:54 PM »
Genisys was a soft reboot remix of REMEMBER THIS that ignored/rewrote the continuity of the whole series and the very next movie was a soft reboot remix of REMEMBER THIS that ignored/rewrote the continuity of the whole series :dead

And it was fun as fuck
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I love the beginning, especially- redoing The Terminator and then FUCK YOU TIME TRAVEL MANIA and crazy shit happening with multiple Ahnulds and a T1000 showing up. 
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« Reply #37321 on: November 04, 2019, 10:17:23 PM »
I think the reason it couldn't have been John is that they wanted a female John Connor. It's that simple. Having him around just complicated things. And ultimately I think they wanted a clean break away from the original story.

So...Sarah Connor?  :doge
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« Reply #37322 on: November 04, 2019, 10:30:16 PM »
I think the reason it couldn't have been John is that they wanted a female John Connor. It's that simple. Having him around just complicated things. And ultimately I think they wanted a clean break away from the original story.

So...Sarah Connor?  :doge

Funny thing is, Linda Hamilton was actually believeable in T2. Her whole story arc was convincing enough that you could believe it from a psychological perspective, and well, even physically she looked prepared. Natalia Reyes on the other hand, I just don't believe it. You see her in the future kicking fucking ass, and at one point breaks a guys arm to the point where it seems even bones are sticking out. At that point I am thinking, "come on!". She is very petite and probably weighs next to nothing. Although doesn't necessarily mean she isn't a great orator I suppose.


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« Reply #37323 on: November 04, 2019, 10:34:14 PM »
No I think the reason is they did'nt want Edward Furlong.

Maybe having a female protag is going woke. I don't know and I don't really care. But I'm sure if Edward Furlong wasn't a mess of a person we would have had mentor John Conner which sounds an ok ending for his character.

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« Reply #37324 on: November 04, 2019, 10:44:12 PM »
Ripley is a great female protaganist. It is certainly making a point, as was ripley, but not necessarily going woke. In this film though, I genuinely believe it was done just to be 'woke'.

They even had Sarah Connor turn sexist for a minute just so they could spell it out just in case the audience didn't catch on for some reason (lol). Basically Sarah Connor is like, "It's not you they're after it's your womb". I mean of course they don't want her for fuck sake, she's a woman. really? You needed that in the script?

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« Reply #37325 on: November 05, 2019, 01:23:17 AM »
This is why I hate time travel in fiction.

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« Reply #37326 on: November 05, 2019, 05:01:39 AM »
Birdman : I was into it but I can hear some of the theorical criticisms about the whole "continuous camera shot" device : a coworker argued with me about this and the lack of "triggers" to justify some of the camera shifting, leading to the impression it's an omniscient camera devoid of a coherent angle. It honestly didn.t bother me though there's always something a bit gratuitous to this sort of performance.

I'll probably try to catch the Revenant too, as it's in Netflix as well.
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« Reply #37327 on: November 05, 2019, 05:57:49 AM »
It ended here.

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Now shut up.

Eh I think it ended with last weekends box office.

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« Reply #37328 on: November 05, 2019, 08:31:15 AM »
where does chucky reboot rank in the terminator series?

Below T3, above Salvation and Genisys.

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« Reply #37329 on: November 05, 2019, 08:46:19 AM »
Birdman : I was into it but I can hear some of the theorical criticisms about the whole "continuous camera shot" device : a coworker argued with me about this and the lack of "triggers" to justify some of the camera shifting, leading to the impression it's an omniscient camera devoid of a coherent angle. It honestly didn.t bother me though there's always something a bit gratuitous to this sort of performance.

I'll probably try to catch the Revenant too, as it's in Netflix as well.


Birdman was annoying in a way that only theater kids could be annoying :rage

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« Reply #37330 on: November 05, 2019, 09:02:05 AM »
they could have easily recast or CG Ed Furlong.

Actually, an out of shape, down trodden by years of hard living loser John Connor a la Thor in Avengers Endgame would've brought great comedic value. Instead of "asta la vista baby" his catchphrase could me "life comes at you fast, maaaan."
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« Reply #37331 on: November 05, 2019, 12:40:03 PM »
I don't care what people say, more terminator is generally good.  Bad movies don't retroactivily spoil good ones.

This one did, for me anwyays. It'll be difficult to watch T2's ending without the opening scene of this Cameron-blessed shit infecting the experience on some level.

At least Newt died offscreen.

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« Reply #37332 on: November 05, 2019, 02:27:31 PM »




I just wanted more GnR/Terminator fan fiction.

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« Reply #37333 on: November 05, 2019, 02:35:26 PM »
Birdman : I was into it but I can hear some of the theorical criticisms about the whole "continuous camera shot" device : a coworker argued with me about this and the lack of "triggers" to justify some of the camera shifting, leading to the impression it's an omniscient camera devoid of a coherent angle. It honestly didn.t bother me though there's always something a bit gratuitous to this sort of performance.

I'll probably try to catch the Revenant too, as it's in Netflix as well.

Don’t bother, The Revenant was as shit and up its own ass as everything else Inarritu does.  Has some nice visuals and the supporting cast is alright, but that’s really it.  Leo’s done much, much better films.

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« Reply #37334 on: November 05, 2019, 02:42:16 PM »
Birdman and The Revenant were both delectable cinematic treats. Vom has good taste. Go watch The Revenant.
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« Reply #37335 on: November 05, 2019, 04:25:28 PM »
That's a bit whatever as a simple member of the audience judging the end product but apparently the producers of the Revenant must have had some fits or deep pockets because Inarritu and his DOP insisted on shooting most of it only at the golden hours of dusk and dawn.

I haven't seen a lot of him, Amores Perros kind of bored me (beyond the obvious talent) and 21 Grams was good. I could see the up his ass angle for an opinion though, it's a fine line between high demand artistic and technical standards and sounding like a prima donna.
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« Reply #37336 on: November 05, 2019, 04:53:10 PM »
Are you that bothered by stories that aren't very kind to American settlers?

I mean, if that were the case I’d have liked the back half of the movie more and the front half less.

I’ll admit I went into The Revenant already predisposed to dislike it on account of my distaste for Inarritu up to that point, but in the end divorced from that I still feel that it was a film mostly empty of compelling character drama.  It was only filled by beautifully shot nothing, the standard Domnhall Gleason decent performance, Tom Hardy playing with accents, and Leo and Alejandro doing the Meryl Streep-esque, “do you see us acting and directing this movie?  See how much we act and direct this scene?  Aren’t we such an actor and director?”  Leo may be as talented as Streep, but it wasn’t showing here IMO.  Once Upon a Time In Hollywood and This Boy’s Life are much better indicators of how good his acting can be.

Inarritu is of course a talentless hack pretending he’s Alfonso Cuaron or Nicolas Winding-Refn, helped propped up by phenomenal cinematographers.

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« Reply #37337 on: November 05, 2019, 04:58:05 PM »
Leo is not as talented as Streep wtf

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« Reply #37338 on: November 05, 2019, 05:02:41 PM »
Not saying he is, only saying that if he were The Revenant is certainly not the role I’d use to argue it.  Yet, nobody would shut up about he good he was in the movie, how brave he was in his acting the role.

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« Reply #37339 on: November 05, 2019, 05:24:51 PM »
On another note: Harriet was decent and I enjoyed it.  Janelle Monae was particularly fine as hell, and I got a kick out of Clarke Peters (Lester from The Wire) playing another character that whittles little things.  I haven’t seen much else of the girl that plays Harriet Tubman, but based on this I think she’s going to have plenty more of the meaty roles in the future, she’s got good presence.

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« Reply #37340 on: November 06, 2019, 02:22:38 PM »
The Revenant is great;  most of the film is pretty straightforward.. not sure how it's "up it's own ass."  Are you that bothered by stories that aren't very kind to American settlers?

Yeah, it got a little overrated but it's a gorgeous looking good film with great acting. No complaints.

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« Reply #37341 on: November 06, 2019, 03:12:14 PM »
I didn't like Birdman though. I thought it would be really up my alley from the plot concept but while it was an ok film I did not get the hype at all. I enjoyed Revenant much more.

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« Reply #37342 on: November 06, 2019, 03:24:34 PM »
Not saying he is, only saying that if he were The Revenant is certainly not the role I’d use to argue it.  Yet, nobody would shut up about he good he was in the movie, how brave he was in his acting the role.
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« Reply #37343 on: November 06, 2019, 05:48:02 PM »
Fuck
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« Reply #37344 on: November 06, 2019, 05:56:22 PM »
Company that wants to make money is looking to make money.

Is ERA so sheltered that they find Netflix's CEO comments shocking or even troubling?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/netflix-ceo-defends-censoring-episode-in-saudi-arabia-were-not-in-the-truth-to-power-business.151585/


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« Reply #37345 on: November 06, 2019, 06:05:08 PM »
Quote
“We’re not in the truth to power business, we’re in the entertainment business.”

In other words: "Please don't invite me to the consulate to cut my body in pieces"

After MBS got away with violently murdering Kashoggi (and then having Putin high-five him over it) everyone knows they should stay the fuck away from Saudi Arabia.
I mean, even Kushner is not doing social visits anymore, the coward. 
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« Reply #37346 on: November 06, 2019, 06:08:25 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/james-dean-finding-jack-digital-actor-backlash-controversy-172502291.html

James Dean will return to the big screen and Twitter isn't happy: 'a disgusting publicity stunt'

Right... but, why? There is literally no acting done by James anyways? Which is the purpose of an actor acting.  :whatsthedeal

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« Reply #37347 on: November 06, 2019, 06:11:06 PM »
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« Reply #37348 on: November 06, 2019, 06:11:27 PM »
i've got a pitch so good for an ed furlong based terminator film that i live life on a breeze knowing that knowing if it all goes completely to shit i'm only a phone call to jimmy cameron away from being a multimillionaire.

just hope the cunt doesn't OD or something first.

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« Reply #37349 on: November 06, 2019, 06:15:12 PM »
I don't understand why they didn't just make a CG movie with an original main CG character who they model after James Dean. I mean CG models in stuff are based off real people all the time but they don't go around announcing that.

I mean I understand it as a publicity stunt, but yeah just gonna piss people off when otherwise the same movie no one would've cared.

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« Reply #37350 on: November 06, 2019, 06:16:39 PM »
RLM had a great idea for a terminator film.

A movie set after Terminator 2 as a John Connor coming of age story with his paranoid mother who hooked up with the second Arnold send back in time.
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« Reply #37351 on: November 06, 2019, 06:22:34 PM »
yea, i didn't care much for the lighthouse

on the other hand, pain and glory was profound

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« Reply #37352 on: November 07, 2019, 04:51:46 AM »
RLM had a great idea for a terminator film.

A movie set after Terminator 2 as a John Connor coming of age story with his paranoid mother who hooked up with the second Arnold send back in time.

mine is better.

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« Reply #37353 on: November 07, 2019, 09:43:34 PM »
why has no one told me the Kingsmen movies were so fun?

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« Reply #37354 on: November 07, 2019, 11:38:23 PM »
The first one has a sort of novelty to it and I enjoyed it but the second is practically the essence of trash.

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« Reply #37355 on: November 07, 2019, 11:50:40 PM »
call me a raccoon then

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« Reply #37356 on: November 08, 2019, 04:24:10 AM »
Didn't know Susumu Hirazawa, who composed several of Satoshi Kon soundtracks, also had a music career on his own before that that he cribbed from...

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« Reply #37357 on: November 08, 2019, 08:13:07 AM »
Kingsman is annoying trash. Nothing lazier than Bond parodies/satires/rip offs. Plus Eggsy is the worst fucking character.

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« Reply #37358 on: November 08, 2019, 08:51:57 AM »
Kingsman was expertly done, but should've remained a stand-alone movie. It's also one of those movies that gets worse the more times you watch it. You then realize how much of it's charm was riding on the element of surprise. Which is why the sequels are/were a horrible idea. The person who greenlit them should be flogged.



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« Reply #37359 on: November 08, 2019, 08:56:17 AM »
Kingsman was expertly done, but should've remained a stand-alone movie. It's also one of those movies that gets worse the more times you watch it. You then realize how much of it's charm was riding on the element of surprise. Which is why the sequels are/were a horrible idea. The person who greenlit them should be flogged.

I have a confession: I have only watched Kingsman 2 bc it was on tv and I liked it, so I am in for a treat when I watch the first one! But honestly, I can't see how people could have these sentiments about this franchise, but like John Wick (not saying you do). This to me has a very similar feel to John Wick, but not grimdark and with a bit more humor and British sass.

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« Reply #37360 on: November 08, 2019, 11:34:55 AM »
Kingsman is annoying trash. Nothing lazier than Bond parodies/satires/rip offs. Plus Eggsy is the worst fucking character.

Even if they're better than the actual Bond films these days?

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« Reply #37361 on: November 08, 2019, 11:58:04 AM »
Kingsman is annoying trash. Nothing lazier than Bond parodies/satires/rip offs. Plus Eggsy is the worst fucking character.

Even if they're better than the actual Bond films these days?

Please, all the Craig movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kingsman on every fucking level

Now if you want to talk about Brosnan movies :yeshrugged

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« Reply #37362 on: November 08, 2019, 12:09:54 PM »
Well that can't be true since the Bronsan moves >>>> than those poorman Borne rip-offs Craig did
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« Reply #37363 on: November 08, 2019, 12:25:38 PM »
Kingsman is annoying trash. Nothing lazier than Bond parodies/satires/rip offs. Plus Eggsy is the worst fucking character.

Even if they're better than the actual Bond films these days?

Please, all the Craig movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kingsman on every fucking level

Now if you want to talk about Brosnan movies :yeshrugged

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« Reply #37364 on: November 08, 2019, 12:27:00 PM »
Didn't know Susumi Hirazawa, who composed several of Satoshi Kon soundtracks, also had a music career on his own before that that he cribbed from...

https://youtu.be/CjDsKR_PPBs


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« Reply #37365 on: November 08, 2019, 12:30:55 PM »
loses it? when did he ever have it?  :doge

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« Reply #37366 on: November 08, 2019, 12:44:53 PM »
*scratches riotous's name off the party invitation list*

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« Reply #37367 on: November 08, 2019, 04:44:20 PM »
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« Reply #37368 on: November 09, 2019, 04:29:22 PM »
Ex Machina

I was slightly disappointed, but the more I think about it the more I like it. The disappointment was because I was so interested in the premise the movie shows you, and that turned out to be the weakest and least explored part of the movie. But what it does turn out to be is good too. Probably the strongest part is Oscar Isaac's character. You can imagine how his ability to create AI could have been a vicious cycle that caused him to end up this way, or maybe he was just always like that. Some really beautiful scenes too.

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« Reply #37369 on: November 09, 2019, 06:10:10 PM »
Rose the Hat in Doctor Sleep   :noah
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« Reply #37370 on: November 09, 2019, 09:52:37 PM »
Saw The Irishman, it was pretty good and surprisingly funny at times; long as shit though.  The aging/de-aging effects are ridiculously impressive, even despite not necessarily matching exactly how the actors looked when they were actually younger.

I look forward to watching it again when it goes on Netflix.

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« Reply #37371 on: November 10, 2019, 03:41:50 AM »
I really want to see Last Christmas. How big of a soy boy giant dad am I?

Edit: This was a drunk post. I'm still gonna go see that flick though.  :doge
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« Reply #37372 on: November 10, 2019, 12:18:28 PM »
Adults in the Room aka Valve Propaganda the movie  :rethread based on Yánis Varoufákis's book and directed by Costa-Gavras.

It's a bit of a slow burn (by the end it gets some flourishes that elevates this beyond a well intentioned docudrama) but it's really as much about the desperate negociations of the Greek debt than about how power become a self-perpetuating end in itself and the voters being betrayed by their leaders. In that sense it's not exactly a puff piece for the Tsipras cabinet. It's not the best Costa-Gavras (Photography is nothing special though there might be some intent here by mimicking 24 hours info channels) but that's still worth your time.
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« Reply #37373 on: November 10, 2019, 12:44:45 PM »
Adults in the Room aka Valve Propaganda the movie  :rethread based on Yánis Varoufákis's book and directed by Costa-Gavras.

It's a bit of a slow burn (by the end it gets some flourishes that elevates this beyond a well intentioned docudrama) but it's really as much about the desperate negociations of the Greek debt than about how power become a self-perpetuating end in itself and the voters being betrayed by their leaders. In that sense it's not exactly a puff piece for the Tsipras cabinet. It's not the best Costa-Gavras (Photography is nothing special though there might be some intent here by mimicking 24 hours info channels) but that's still worth your time.
Sounds interesting, but I can't seem to find it anywhere  ???
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« Reply #37374 on: November 10, 2019, 12:48:27 PM »
Adults in the Room aka Valve Propaganda the movie  :rethread based on Yánis Varoufákis's book and directed by Costa-Gavras.

It's a bit of a slow burn (by the end it gets some flourishes that elevates this beyond a well intentioned docudrama) but it's really as much about the desperate negociations of the Greek debt than about how power become a self-perpetuating end in itself and the voters being betrayed by their leaders. In that sense it's not exactly a puff piece for the Tsipras cabinet. It's not the best Costa-Gavras (Photography is nothing special though there might be some intent here by mimicking 24 hours info channels) but that's still worth your time.
Sounds interesting, but I can't seem to find it anywhere  ???

It released this week in theaters in France (which co produces it) so it's probably gonna roll out elsewhere shortly.
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« Reply #37375 on: November 10, 2019, 06:17:15 PM »
Oooo boy. Still processing, but Dr. Sleep pressed all the wrong buttons. Pretty sure it’s objectively worse than the Shining TV miniseries.  At best, nobody will remember this in two months. Critics really missed the mark on this one, similar to Death Stranding. Why are critics wrong so often lately? Aren’t most critics liberal? Makes you wonder—if you can’t trust their reviews, can you really consider their political positions valid? Huh? HUH

Still, it’s not all bad. Here are my bullet points:

* First half hour was a little sloppy, but it seemed promising. It had potential; I was a little hyped, actually.
* The doubles they used for Danny and Shelley Duvall were abysmal. They looked terrible (a double is no longer good enough in the year of de-aging, but even by the standards of using doubles, these were really poor matches). More importantly, they acted -nothing- like Danny and Shelley in The Shining. These are two very famous performances, and neither are that complex. Just bad, bad, bad. If they couldn’t have done these scenes right, they shouldn’t have done them at all...
* ...but then there wouldn’t be much connecting this to the Shining. This movie is really its own thing. If you walk in thinking this isn’t a sequel to the Shining, you may like it. But it will remind you it’s a sequel to the Shining frequently, even though the plot is disconnected.
* The new little girl is a bad actor and has no personality. She delivers all of her lines like they’re the moral of an after-school special. She is not charming or likable or dislikable or anything. She’s just there—and since she’s a lead that’s a big problem. Can’t feel or care about a block of wood.
* Rose and Crow were pretty cool. I could’ve used more of them and the baddies in general. Their introduction was handled really shittily, but they end up being the fun part of the movie.
* This fucker feels long. It’s very slow paced. The plot is very simple, but it wasn’t planned out in advance and it meanders and meanders. It’s a simple plot but it would take me three fucking paragraphs to describe it because either King or the script writer thought they were brilliant and dumped all over the fucking place.
* Terrible, generic movie soundtrack, ca 2019. Not good for a genre flick. Not at all acceptable for a sequel to a fuckin’ Kubrick flick. They use a few Wendy Carlos music cues from the original and a -horrendous- orchestrated version of her Shining theme. No exaggeration: they put no effort in here.
* I did enjoy the ending, but let’s not pretend fanservice is difficult to pull off. No ideas were required to put this ending together.

The movie (probably wisely) doesn’t ape Kubrick’s visual stylings at all, outside of a recreation of the Big Wheel steadicam shot and a few other shots. The stuff in the Overlook is most often in Flanagan’s own style.

Just a failure from nearly every angle. Director’s first big misfire, too. This is King in fantasy mode, where he typically produces lesser works (The Stand, Dark Tower), so it’s not really a shock, although reviews swerved me by making me think this might be good. It kinda feels like King stapled an okay beginning to a Shining sequel onto a bunch of random ideas that had been sitting in his desk for decades. It bad.
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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #37376 on: November 10, 2019, 06:24:52 PM »
An addendum : The film is, as I said, somewhat confrontional to Tsipras, despite the obvious sympathies of the director. Varoufakis is however being offered a very flattering portrait. It's expected because it's based on his book and he was consulted by the director... But AFAIK not everyone, including on the left, is so enamored or uncritical of his account. It's not really a detriment to the film, it's as good as an anchor as any when the larger point is dramatically underlining the childish, callous bureaucracy of Euro institutions and their ideological pettiness. But I could imagine it's a little grating if you have some beef with him.
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« Reply #37377 on: November 10, 2019, 06:30:48 PM »
I liked the Flanagan flick he made for Netflix starring Gugino but thought the last reel which swerved into very literal fantasy was distinctly weaker than the rest (though I wouldn't be surprised if it was faithful to King's material) and your extended opinion pretty much confirm all the bias I had about this watching the trailer.
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Re: Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread
« Reply #37378 on: November 10, 2019, 06:41:24 PM »
I liked the Flanagan flick he made for Netflix starring Gugino but thought the last reel which swerved into very literal fantasy was distinctly weaker than the rest (though I wouldn't be surprised if it was faithful to King's material) and your extended opinion pretty much confirm all the bias I had about this watching the trailer.

I have to admit I’ve always held bias against the novel because King wrote it as a result of a fan poll. The novel is literally fan service.
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« Reply #37379 on: November 10, 2019, 07:04:59 PM »
Oooo boy. Still processing, but Dr. Sleep pressed all the wrong buttons. Pretty sure it’s objectively worse than the Shining TV miniseries.  At best, nobody will remember this in two months. Critics really missed the mark on this one, similar to Death Stranding. Why are critics wrong so often lately? Aren’t most critics liberal? Makes you wonder—if you can’t trust their reviews, can you really consider their political positions valid? Huh? HUH

Still, it’s not all bad. Here are my bullet points:

* First half hour was a little sloppy, but it seemed promising. It had potential; I was a little hyped, actually.
* The doubles they used for Danny and Shelley Duvall were abysmal. They looked terrible (a double is no longer good enough in the year of de-aging, but even by the standards of using doubles, these were really poor matches). More importantly, they acted -nothing- like Danny and Shelley in The Shining. These are two very famous performances, and neither are that complex. Just bad, bad, bad. If they couldn’t have done these scenes right, they shouldn’t have done them at all...
* ...but then there wouldn’t be much connecting this to the Shining. This movie is really its own thing. If you walk in thinking this isn’t a sequel to the Shining, you may like it. But it will remind you it’s a sequel to the Shining frequently, even though the plot is disconnected.
* The new little girl is a bad actor and has no personality. She delivers all of her lines like they’re the moral of an after-school special. She is not charming or likable or dislikable or anything. She’s just there—and since she’s a lead that’s a big problem. Can’t feel or care about a block of wood.
* Rose and Crow were pretty cool. I could’ve used more of them and the baddies in general. Their introduction was handled really shittily, but they end up being the fun part of the movie.
* This fucker feels long. It’s very slow paced. The plot is very simple, but it wasn’t planned out in advance and it meanders and meanders. It’s a simple plot but it would take me three fucking paragraphs to describe it because either King or the script writer thought they were brilliant and dumped all over the fucking place.
* Terrible, generic movie soundtrack, ca 2019. Not good for a genre flick. Not at all acceptable for a sequel to a fuckin’ Kubrick flick. They use a few Wendy Carlos music cues from the original and a -horrendous- orchestrated version of her Shining theme. No exaggeration: they put no effort in here.
* I did enjoy the ending, but let’s not pretend fanservice is difficult to pull off. No ideas were required to put this ending together.

The movie (probably wisely) doesn’t ape Kubrick’s visual stylings at all, outside of a recreation of the Big Wheel steadicam shot and a few other shots. The stuff in the Overlook is most often in Flanagan’s own style.

Just a failure from nearly every angle. Director’s first big misfire, too. This is King in fantasy mode, where he typically produces lesser works (The Stand, Dark Tower), so it’s not really a shock, although reviews swerved me by making me think this might be good. It kinda feels like King stapled an okay beginning to a Shining sequel onto a bunch of random ideas that had been sitting in his desk for decades. It bad.

Big missed opportunity to not have Ewan give Billy a brojob after getting all emotional at their AA meeting.
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