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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34020 on: December 14, 2019, 02:26:53 PM »
Tried out Siegecraft Commander on Switch.

Weird little RTS where you expand and build your base by catapulting out buildings.

Not really feeling it, but I'll give it another chance before I ditch it.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34021 on: December 14, 2019, 02:29:33 PM »
Did indeed start Fist of the North Star back up and I've completely forgotten the combat and what the fuck I'm doing in the story :stahp

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34022 on: December 14, 2019, 04:07:12 PM »
Got back to The Messenger and finished the 8-bit part. Wasn't feeling the 16-bit levels at first since they played identical and the only difference was the graphics/music but then got to the metroidvania part and appreciate that it's different. Not sure where to go so just re-running through the areas but it's still fun for now. Some great boss fights up to this point and good platforming.

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« Reply #34023 on: December 14, 2019, 07:43:13 PM »
Ended up playing The Messenger most of the day. Think I'm pretty far. 3 or 4 notes left and just 1 of the little guys to rescue (in the fire area).

The second half of this game has been some real bullshit. Lots of good clever platforming sections, but a lot of frustrating bullshit too and this is some of the worst backtracking I've ever seen. Also some areas aren't really made to go backwards direction and there was one bit where I got stuck with a non-warp save in a really difficult green power seal room and every time I died in the next bunch of screens in the map I'd have to restart and redo the power seal room over and over and it'd take me like 5-10 attempts just to make it through the room to get back to the map. Ended up saying fuck it and when I did get out, spent 5 mins backtracking to the nearest save just to change my save point.

Also no bosses in the 2nd half so far and the bosses were some of the best parts of the 1st half  :-\
Not much writing either and that's another one of the game's strengths missing.

A lot of the backtracking is also because the game's second half doesn't guide you at all so you end up going through a level only to find you need an item from another level so time to do it again after you get that item. I guess if you use a guide telling you which order to go it'd be better, but oh well.

The map layout is pretty tedious and fast travel points aren't great. There's been spots where I've considered just bailing on the game, but then there's been great sections here and there that keep me in...just barely. I think I should be able to wrap up the rest of the notes next play session.

Anyone know if the Spring Panic DLC is linear w/bosses like the first half or this 2nd half style? Will determine whether I play it.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34024 on: December 14, 2019, 07:48:57 PM »
Also the checkpointing, while frequent, still isn't great. I didn't realize until the 2nd half that parts of the game were gonna turn into a Super Meat Boy platformer where everything 1 hit kills you pits and spikes. I'm fine with that in games like SMB or Celeste because they checkpoint every room. Here sometimes you get to a tough green power seal room and there's no checkpoint and the last one is 3 screens ago so every time you die you have to go through the same screens again and again. Other times power seal rooms have checkpoints. It's just weird and uneven.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34025 on: December 14, 2019, 10:52:53 PM »
Made it to the demon general boss in The Messenger. The fire bit of the fight messes me up since I can't vertical slash it to get any height to make the jumps so I'm usually dying to that alone. Have only tried the fight like three times though so I'll probably improve.

Edit: turns out you get an extra jump after vertically slashing an object which is also what that blue graphic beneath the character has apparently represented all this time.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34026 on: December 14, 2019, 11:22:58 PM »
Made it to the demon general boss in The Messenger. The fire bit of the fight messes me up since I can't vertical slash it to get any height to make the jumps so I'm usually dying to that alone. Have only tried the fight like three times though so I'll probably improve.

I liked the Messenger, but that's where I stopped to. By the time I picked up the game again to try to beat that boss, I realized that I lost the timing and there's no way to basically back track and get the rhythm of playing the game again. That save spot in front of the demon general boss is at a bad place.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34027 on: December 15, 2019, 12:43:43 AM »
Going through the Witcher 1 at the moment since I refuse to play 3 without going through the previous games first.

Had to pull out my old Asus laptop to play since my Surface Pro 3 can barely run the darn thing :-\

I gotta say, this has been fairly fun so far. World and characters are really interesting. Main plot hasn’t really kicked-in yet, but the Chapter 1 village storyline has been cool.

Combat is complete non-sense even by 2007 standards, but it’s easy enough to wrap your head around. Inventory management is fucking ass. Can only store things with an inn-keeper (who gets fucking killed off towards the end of chapter 1), and vendors only buy items that are their specialty. At least you can drop items if needed. Other than that, things are generally good.

Oh and the sex cards thing is hilariously dumb (but hot :rash).
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34028 on: December 15, 2019, 02:56:55 AM »
Going through the Witcher 1 at the moment since I refuse to play 3 without going through the previous games first.

I really liked the bit I played of W1 but my save corrupted like halfway through and I never went back. Need to go back one day...although I never have gone through Blood and Wine in W3 so maybe that first.  :lol


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« Reply #34029 on: December 15, 2019, 03:01:06 AM »
I'm surprised you missed that as that's the game's main hook.

It was occurring prior for sure but I hadn't realized that the indication was an extra jump that was 'stored' and could be used at any time following. Before I knew about the cloudjump but thought it required execution immediately following a slash to a stone as a button sequence (also noticed this for the ghosts in the 16-bit mode area), which is why I had the impression of it feeling hit or miss earlier as it felt unclear when it would work and not.

Currently got my first note. I don't mind the backtracking so far although I did go through a couple spots a few times after trying to figure out how to cross some pit in an alternate mode (couldn't find a way so far to get there in what I'm guessing is the correct mode).

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« Reply #34030 on: December 15, 2019, 03:06:36 AM »
Yeah, I have no idea how you made it through some of the complicated platforming segments in the later areas without the double jump. I'm having to mix up double jumps -> grapples -> double jumps -> glides -> grapples -> etc... on some of these sections like the final optional section in the cloud level. I feel like the controls are a little finicky, especially the horizontal jumping slash to jump and hold into glide down slash, so I probably have like 500 deaths Super Meat Boy/Celeste style but a lot of them don't feel deserved unlike those games.

That being said, I'm surprised 2 of you guys had trouble on the fire demon general? I struggled on some of the bosses for a bit but thought he was one of the easier ones. I mean his moveset is:

-Standstill for a very long time whirling up and then dashing and standing still - You get a shitton of slashes in and then jump up as he dashes and then a ton of slashes after
-Jumping to the ceiling and back over and over - literally can just dodge by moving left or right and then getting some slashes in
-Hanging in a corner while whack a mole demons fill the screen with fire below - you can basically just mash jump + slash over and over while heading in the direction of him and then hit him a bunch and change sides and repeat

I think he had one other easy free hits move too maybe? Don't remember.

I had a tougher time on the mushroom whip gal, the dragon and the temple of time final boss. But once I figured out each of their patterns they were all pretty easy to beat almost no-hit. Like the boss of temple of time felt like it took foreeeeever since I could only get a few hits in when the hands moved horizontal across at the bottom since the rest of the time he's covered by a circle of light.

...then I figured out when he claps his hands you can glide and land on his raised hands and you get to dodge the run left/right jumping through balls phase AND now the upper hands while doing that left/right become platforms leading you right to the boss to hit him a bunch. Once I figured that out instead of being a 10 min endurance fight that was tough was like a 2 min easy fight. So far I feel like all the bosses have good patterns that once it clicks they're pretty easy and it's fun figuring the patterns out.

I'm surprised you missed that as that's the game's main hook.

It was occurring prior for sure but I hadn't realized that the indication was an extra jump that was 'stored' and could be used at any time following. Before I knew about the cloudjump but thought it required execution immediately following a slash to a stone as a button sequence (also noticed this for the ghosts in the 16-bit mode area), which is why I had the impression of it feeling hit or miss earlier as it felt unclear when it would work and not.

Currently got my first note. I don't mind the backtracking so far although I did go through a couple spots a few times after trying to figure out how to cross some pit in an alternate mode (couldn't find a way so far to get there in what I'm guessing is the correct mode).

Ah, yeah I didn't realize about the way it was stored until some of the complex platforming bits later on. On the fire general whack a mole bit though didn't need to store it, I just mashed jump and slash to hop from one to another.

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« Reply #34031 on: December 15, 2019, 03:38:48 AM »
Sorry, meant Tripon and Coax.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34032 on: December 15, 2019, 04:59:25 AM »
Are you even enjoying these souls games the way you are playing? It sounds like an absolutely horrendous time. I guess it gives you an amazing adrenaline high or something.

I thought the final two bosses in Ashen were so terrible I can't even recommend the game anymore.

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« Reply #34033 on: December 15, 2019, 05:56:39 AM »
Prey is amazing. :bow2

UWP, language settings, and AA implementation annoyed me, but I have no complaints about the actual game whatsoever. I've been mainlining it and even dreamed about mimics and phantoms when I dozed off.

I do wonder if the phantoms were inspired by the silouhettes people see during sleep paralysis. 🤔

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so so fast the sailing ships / the outer rim the innocence / the lovely air / the wind it breathes / it comes
 

Fighting phantoms to this was a lot of fun. :lol The male version of the song though. :kobeyuck
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34034 on: December 15, 2019, 06:22:29 AM »
So far I feel like all the bosses have good patterns that once it clicks they're pretty easy and it's fun figuring the patterns out.

Yeah I've enjoyed them for the same reasons. The patterns become learnable fairly quickly and then it's just a matter of nailing the movements, which I think is also true of some of the more challenging platforming. They also got the length of the fights right so far in that I haven't had any 'oh god, another part/form' moments :P

Btw if anyone is looking to play another platformer, with a good quality from beginning to end, I'd recommend Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight. Not a particularly long game (from memory, been a couple years) but has quality pixel art/animations, of an easier but still rewarding challenge, and has a general charm to it.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34035 on: December 15, 2019, 07:39:02 AM »
Started playing Massive Chalice during lunch at work. It's fun; it scratches an itch along the lines of Bungie's Myth. It's also clear Muir really enjoyed Game of Thrones at the time they made this. It's got some fun writing, and for as much of a barebones story as has been revealed so far, it's nice they're keeping a lot of details sketched out, letting the player fill in the story gaps.

At home I'm still enjoying RAD, been postponing starting RDR2 or Spider-Man because I want to make sure I get at least one ending in RAD first.

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« Reply #34036 on: December 15, 2019, 07:39:59 AM »
Liking Control a good deal. Pretty cool game. I like that you get Japanese action game style movement options like air dash and stuff. Some of the areas definitely look real nice with ray-tracing.

Even at 1440p ray-tracing pretty much kills framerate. Only hitting about 45-60fps (which is ok with gsync) with medium ray-tracing and no 2x AA. With high ray-tracing it's pretty much a 30fps game @ 1440p. At 1080p can do 60fps with ray-tracing even on high but because the game is really soft it looks pretty blurry at 1080p so trying to render at 1440p at least. Medium quality ray-tracing is good enough. But yeah, even 2080ti still ain't enough for 60fps full ray-tracing at 1440p these days.

*edit* turned on the fps counter. With ray-tracing on medium, get about 60-70 fps, with ray-tracing on high get between 35-50 fps with average around 45fps. All the other options, including MSAA don't seem to do more than 1-3fps difference so pretty much just ray-tracing and resolution are the fps determination.

If you even look up a little bit about what ray-tracing is doing, you'll see why it's costing so much. It's gorgeous and so utterly superfluous for actually enjoying a game.

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« Reply #34037 on: December 15, 2019, 11:00:51 AM »
Downloaded the new King DLC for Shovelknight, since it's free for every (previously purchased) version. The new gameplay seems fine, not as fun as the last DLC though, which was kind of like Ninja Gaiden. But even the last DLC already felt tired, because technically it's still mostly the same levels, aesthetics, music, etc. of the original game. That's why I almost didn't even download it, despite it being free. I don't care about kickstarter goals, they really ran Shovelknight into the ground with these character DLCs for like what, 3 to 5 years? Should've moved on to a brandnew game a long time ago.

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« Reply #34038 on: December 15, 2019, 11:14:59 AM »
I’ll get to Ashen soon but I still have Code Vein to get through for 2019 Souls-likes first.

I’ve bought way way too many games lately  :-\

Code Vein's not too long, fortunately, only a little over 20 hours.

HNNGHHHH Code Vein is so good and has the best co-op mechanic ever. I've been playing for about 45 hours or so and am pretty much at the last area before the final area (that only has bosses) but I've spent a lot of time helping other people fight bosses in co-op and also running through the whole game in co-op with my girlfriend. I love how even if I'm level 121 and she's 40 or so it scales me down to match her power level so it makes it fair and we can still play together. I wish more Souls-like games had that feature and I wish more Souls-like games were as easy to co-op through as this one. Like with Dark Souls 1 and 2 or Bloodborne, I wouldn't be able to power through the game and then use the same character to co-op with someone who's way behind me and doesn't play as much. I believe Dark Souls 3 is WAY more lenient with the password system and they fixed it so it doesn't matter what soul level the person you're summoning is as long as you're using a password, so maybe we'll try that one next. I'm afraid to have her try Remnant because it's hella hard.

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« Reply #34039 on: December 15, 2019, 03:03:57 PM »
Yuck, can't beat The Messenger. On the last ass note and there's a long lava run in Underworld where you have to hold RB to run on the lava and my controller (even plugged in) seems to have a latency issue where every minute or so it drops the RB holding for a millisecond and I fall in the lava and die. Been on this for 30-40 mins now and gonna try to do it with the keyboard but haven't used kb the whole game and this is a tricky platforming bit. Really annoying.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34040 on: December 15, 2019, 06:28:02 PM »
Well, I beat The Messenger
And then beat Picnic Panic

The Messenger main game is like great 1st half, about 3 hours of backtracking kinda filler grumble grumble, and then mostly good/great 2nd half when there's new levels. Pretty much all the "new" levels in the 2nd half are as good as the levels in the first half and even have bosses (except Sunken Shrine for some reason).

If they had gotten rid of the non-linear bit and just used the new levels for the 2nd half so there'd be about 8-12 stages with bosses and that's it, it'd be a great game. As is, it's still pretty good but there's definitely a long section of backtracking padding when you're opening up the new levels in the second half. I beat it at 9 hours and I'd say it was 3 hours for the first half, 3 hours for the new stages in the 2nd half and about 3 hours running around getting items and figuring out where to go in the middle.

When I started the game I thought it was gonna be a Ninja Gaiden style action/platformer which is what the first half seemed like. Didn't realize the 2nd half was gonna drop most of the action and just go turn into a balls to the wall hardcore platformer. Was fun, but some of the stages towards the end really made my hands sweat and definitely some bits were super frustrating. Had about 250 deaths in the end when the counter came up. Overall good game.


Now Picnic Panic - Meh. It's basically post-game extra challenge expansion and it's generally good but it feels like they throw in a lot more cheap/frustrating bits just to amp it up. Like the main game is pretty leinent even in the endgame stuff with switch timers but Picnic Panic is all about that. Was all doable, and I didn't even mind the challenge run stages at the end even if it was a little frustrating. But the point where this expansion lost me was the Totem Pole Boss in the middle. Imo that boss is a bad design. It has like 3-4x the HP of all the other bosses including the main game's final boss and has some patterns that are a bit random (like the lightning) and can fuck you. It's an endurance fight that goes on for minutes and it's also hard as hell. Felt like some games ultra super final true ending boss and I guess it was since the fights after are kinda a joke in comparison so it's the hardest boss in the main game + dlc by a lot. But Nightmare King Grimm it isn't, it's just a long tedious af fight and it probably took me 30-45 mins. When I finally beat it, wasn't really satisfied, just felt like I wanted to get the DLC done and didn't have a lot of faith in the rest if that's what they thought was good design. Glad I stuck with it and finished it, but definitely could've skipped this DLC and not missed out on much since it didn't bring much new to the table.

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« Reply #34041 on: December 15, 2019, 06:29:42 PM »
Finished Prey. The pacing was a bit off at the end, but it is still an excellent game. :heartbeat

The whole Dahl section should have come earlier, not right before the finale (itself marred by a sprint from one load screen to another), but it wasn't bad in itself. It just resulted in a lot of backtracking when it was least called for, i.e. right before another back-and-forth.

The post-credits reveal was contrived (and teased at too much), but it is "pick your ending" done right. Being allowed to subvert Morgan's character arc is a great idea. The game is one big trolley problem (with multiple smaller ones nested within), so to give you a chance to flip the table
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34042 on: December 15, 2019, 09:18:15 PM »
Going through the Witcher 1 at the moment since I refuse to play 3 without going through the previous games first.

Had to pull out my old Asus laptop to play since my Surface Pro 3 can barely run the darn thing :-\

I gotta say, this has been fairly fun so far. World and characters are really interesting. Main plot hasn’t really kicked-in yet, but the Chapter 1 village storyline has been cool.

Combat is complete non-sense even by 2007 standards, but it’s easy enough to wrap your head around. Inventory management is fucking ass. Can only store things with an inn-keeper (who gets fucking killed off towards the end of chapter 1), and vendors only buy items that are their specialty. At least you can drop items if needed. Other than that, things are generally good.

Oh and the sex cards thing is hilariously dumb (but hot :rash).

Witcher 1 is pretty jank, even with all the patches and stuff, but it was CD Projekt's very first game so I can forgive those issues, especially since the main story and quests are all really good. 2 was much better mechanically, but felt a bit smaller in scale and...not as mysterious.
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« Reply #34043 on: December 15, 2019, 10:45:28 PM »
My favorite memory of Witcher 1 was getting stuck in the floor in the end battle and having it save (or I saved accidentally) and my last other save was like dozen hours back so I YouTubed the last hour.

I still liked Witcher 1. The investigation stuff was fun even if the combat was super jank.

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« Reply #34044 on: December 16, 2019, 02:13:22 AM »
Met the last couple characters in Where the Water Tastes Like Wine and made it to the west coast. Calling it a good stopping point now that I've traveled from Boston to Los Angeles on mostly foot. Really, really interesting experience (but not a good game). Can see it surviving the test of time in the future as an important piece of the medium.

Did a little write up on era because the game had a real impact on me over the last few months from the dozen or so hours I played on dark & lonely nights.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/where-the-water-tastes-like-wine-is-one-of-the-most-interesting-games-ive-ever-played.159573/

Also, the soundtrack is fucking killer. Even if you have no interest in the game give it a listen. It's on spotify by Ryan Ike.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34045 on: December 16, 2019, 03:26:51 AM »
The best and worst thing that you can say about ray-tracing is that it is the future.

I've seen a lot of experienced graphics programmers who would disagree that it is the future.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34046 on: December 16, 2019, 03:37:48 AM »

Witcher 1 is pretty jank, even with all the patches and stuff, but it was CD Projekt's very first game so I can forgive those issues, especially since the main story and quests are all really good. 2 was much better mechanically, but felt a bit smaller in scale and...not as mysterious.

My favorite memory of Witcher 1 was getting stuck in the floor in the end battle and having it save (or I saved accidentally) and my last other save was like dozen hours back so I YouTubed the last hour.

I still liked Witcher 1. The investigation stuff was fun even if the combat was super jank.

It reminds me of Mass Effect 1 in a lot of ways. Fairly janky first entry, but with lots of heart. Along with the (seemingly) much improved gameplay in the sequels. Thankfully, I haven’t heard anything about The Witcher 3 shitting the bed with its ending(s), so I don’t have that to dread.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34047 on: December 16, 2019, 04:57:15 AM »
The best and worst thing that you can say about ray-tracing is that it is the future.

I've seen a lot of experienced graphics programmers who would disagree that it is the future.
Hmhm~! Spill, brother.

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« Reply #34048 on: December 16, 2019, 04:24:37 PM »
Finished Ys 2.  I ended up swapping in the TG-16 music and really enjoyed it, although I enjoyed the chronicles music too.

Decided to change up a bit before starting Oath in Felghana and, since EA gave me a free month of their sub services, moved onto Titanfall 2.  Not far into the game but so far I’m enjoying it. Not a fan of how easily the enemies blend in with the terrain, but that might be because my pc is a potato at this point, maybe they stand out better with higher graphical fidelity?

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« Reply #34049 on: December 17, 2019, 12:55:58 AM »
The best and worst thing that you can say about ray-tracing is that it is the future.

I've seen a lot of experienced graphics programmers who would disagree that it is the future.
Hmhm~! Spill, brother.

...Provided it's not too technical to understand for us plebs. :doge

I'd have to go digging to find takes, but I saw a lot of "we are doing this again?".  Maybe it is the future at some point, but it just seems like another thing getting pushed out before its ready for consumers ala VR.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34050 on: December 17, 2019, 07:32:53 AM »
The hypno attack from the boss in this level is pretty cheap :doge Being unrecoverable isn't so bad, more just going through the trivial motions again of the early fight (edit: just realized it merely inverses movement...). Neat rest of the level though. Have enjoyed the re-designed platforming sections from past areas, such as the final stretch of the cloud level in 8-bit mode which was a good challenge.

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Attention-drawing WebP deblocking or dithered to hell bloated GIF :thinking One would think that being VP8-based it'd allow for better size to quality ratios yet it's still fairly large in comparison (above at 20% quality to get the filesize more reasonable). Have also tested APNG but its optimizations aren't suited for long clips.
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« Reply #34051 on: December 17, 2019, 11:59:59 AM »
I found the trick was just to stand still after being hit and jump straight up until it wears off.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34052 on: December 17, 2019, 04:56:14 PM »
The best and worst thing that you can say about ray-tracing is that it is the future.

I've seen a lot of experienced graphics programmers who would disagree that it is the future.
Hmhm~! Spill, brother.

...Provided it's not too technical to understand for us plebs. :doge

I'd have to go digging to find takes, but I saw a lot of "we are doing this again?".  Maybe it is the future at some point, but it just seems like another thing getting pushed out before its ready for consumers ala VR.

https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/975881430415818752?lang=en

also, lol

https://twitter.com/InternDept/status/805879135646220291
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34053 on: December 17, 2019, 08:33:53 PM »
So I'm back to trying to finish Fist of the North Star. I got it last Christmas and it seems like I should probably be nearing the end but I have no idea. I hadn't touched it for 6 months so coming back to it I was completely lost on everything. Got stuck at a part where you have the Yakuza style run from group battle to group battle and kept dying so went to fuck around and grind up a bit before trying it again. It seemed super long so I have to assume it's near the end of the story.


I am already dead :goty

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« Reply #34054 on: December 18, 2019, 01:30:27 PM »
Update: I was correct, that was the end segment, and I leveled up so much before hand that the final battle was over in 2 minutes :lol

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #34055 on: December 18, 2019, 10:56:30 PM »
Finished Remnant. Pretty sure I'm not going to grind out the last 10 achievements because while I'd like to roll the rest of the bosses I didn't fight I don't really want to grind out the scrap or maxed weapons / armor achievements.

Really good proof of concept for a Souls-like in the mold of a TPS, but so many of the boss designs fell flat for me. 95% of the difficulty in any given encounter is the add swarm phase that lazily throws chaos into a solo playthrough. Having even one more person to draw aggro would make Normal insanely easy. Then there's a number of encounters that feel like whoever designed it just straight up did not give a shit about solo players. Fun, but frustrating.

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« Reply #34056 on: December 19, 2019, 04:05:16 AM »
Days Gone is amazing. I love the bike combat, love the characters. I thought I was gonna hate Boozer really don't like his head tattoo but I was wrong. What a bro.
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« Reply #34057 on: December 19, 2019, 07:27:06 AM »
I hope there will be one set in China. I want to kill my ancestors.

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« Reply #34058 on: December 19, 2019, 10:19:48 AM »
How did you find the last boss? Reddit thinks it is the worst boss in the game (after Gorefist) and sours the whole experience etc. I do not think that at all.

The first phase is fine, the second one was pretty frustrating in that I didn’t understand what the game wanted me to do until I looked it up. Once I learned that you wanted to sit by the portal, pop exactly 10 adds and then portal out and Hot Shot / unload on the chest it went pretty smoothly. Not very impressive by any means and yet another boss who’s difficulty is entirely dependent on an add phase. Par for the game I guess.

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« Reply #34059 on: December 19, 2019, 10:53:47 AM »
Metal Wolf Chaos XD - Believe in your justice, Mr. President. :usacry tbf the gameplay doesn't seem so bad, except that the levels are now stacking up on helicopters, which are annoying to fight.

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« Reply #34060 on: December 19, 2019, 10:57:37 AM »
How did you find the last boss? Reddit thinks it is the worst boss in the game (after Gorefist) and sours the whole experience etc. I do not think that at all.

The first phase is fine, the second one was pretty frustrating in that I didn’t understand what the game wanted me to do until I looked it up. Once I learned that you wanted to sit by the portal, pop exactly 10 adds and then portal out and Hot Shot / unload on the chest it went pretty smoothly. Not very impressive by any means and yet another boss who’s difficulty is entirely dependent on an add phase. Par for the game I guess.

I was watching two dudes play co-op, and that boss seemed really poorly designed for that. Only one person gets teleported and the other person just sorta hangs out with the boss for a few minutes. :lol
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« Reply #34061 on: December 19, 2019, 02:29:10 PM »
Wake me up when Odyssey is $5 without a coupon :P

Hopefully it'll be on humble choice in one of the bundles soon. Will probably be up for it sometime next year. Still gotta play the Origins DLCs first.

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« Reply #34062 on: December 19, 2019, 02:30:48 PM »
PC versions of Ass Creed are often more buggy than their console counterparts.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #34063 on: December 19, 2019, 02:46:57 PM »
That seems like an odd claim? AC games are notoriously buggy everywhere...

Also didn’t have any issues with Origins that I can remember. Game was pretty polished.

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« Reply #34064 on: December 19, 2019, 03:02:04 PM »
How did you find the last boss? Reddit thinks it is the worst boss in the game (after Gorefist) and sours the whole experience etc. I do not think that at all.

The first phase is fine, the second one was pretty frustrating in that I didn’t understand what the game wanted me to do until I looked it up. Once I learned that you wanted to sit by the portal, pop exactly 10 adds and then portal out and Hot Shot / unload on the chest it went pretty smoothly. Not very impressive by any means and yet another boss who’s difficulty is entirely dependent on an add phase. Par for the game I guess.

I was watching two dudes play co-op, and that boss seemed really poorly designed for that. Only one person gets teleported and the other person just sorta hangs out with the boss for a few minutes. :lol

That’s a bizarre decision. Most of the benefit of more than 1 person would be managing aggro. I would honestly rank most of the game’s boss designs pretty poorly by Souls-like standards because the entire difficulty is wrapped up in add management.

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« Reply #34065 on: December 19, 2019, 03:03:46 PM »
PC versions of Ass Creed are often more buggy than their console counterparts.
Origins had very little problems for me, and actually ran fairly smooth as far as performance go.
Odyssey was a bit more stuttery instead.
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« Reply #34066 on: December 19, 2019, 03:04:16 PM »
That seems like an odd claim? AC games are notoriously buggy everywhere...

Also didn’t have any issues with Origins that I can remember. Game was pretty polished.
In my experience they are because consoles are 'fixed' hardware so it works and stays working even if issues persist.
Nvidia and AMD however are likely to break something within 2 or 3 years with driver updates, which they never bother to fix.

So you get things like this:
https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthread.php/1773724-Assassin-s-Creed-Origins-Known-Issues-UPDATED-May-15
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Description: We have noticed game client instability with both the base game and the upcoming Discovery Tour mode, while using AMD drivers 18.2.1
Workaround: We recommend rolling back to previous driver version 17.12.1 until we have more information about the issue.
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« Reply #34067 on: December 19, 2019, 07:40:47 PM »
Infinifactory is on Game Pass. I jumped right on it, knowing that it will both hook and eventually defeat me, like Space Chem before and as probably all other Zachtronics games would. One of these puzzles will require more than one sitting's worth of thought and it will sap my spirit, I know it. Until then, I will have a lot of fun tinkering.

Already found myself overthinking a puzzle severly. :stahp

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« Reply #34068 on: December 20, 2019, 02:16:28 AM »
Completed The Messenger. Is fair to say they could have pared it back and had a tighter experience, especially if they wanted to entice players with a NG+ but I agree the second half holds up mostly just fine apart from that. One could avoid the optional challenge rooms to keep it shorter.

That said I enjoyed the level design enough that I wasn't actively bothered by it and found the general play sessions quite chill with the music muted. They added enough changes and new rooms and maps to keep it interesting and rewarding gameplay wise.

It's the final ~10-15% which isn't as rewarding imo. It started to feel a bit long in the tooth following the flying sequence, then drag in the area past the bridge and then the Abyss sidescroller made me actively annoyed at the game for the first time. The last map is pretty decent but I wouldn't consider them as enjoyable as the prior parts of the game.

Boss-wise the sidescroller in the Abyss of The Messenger is the only part where I thought 'this is utter trash'. It's not even that a long section but if you get ahead of it the thing catches up unfairly and one mistake costs your life so it becomes mindnumbingly repetitive.

The Demon Boss was surprisingly easy. The second-easiest boss in the game apart from the moth (though I died more unnecessarily to that one until I realized how the hypno attack functioned). Last boss felt like a marathon until I discovered you can cut the fight in half using this technique while it's idle.

Tried the free DLC but it began with a boat race that went on and on and wasn't fun tbh so I left it at that.

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« Reply #34069 on: December 21, 2019, 03:01:10 AM »
Control












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« Reply #34070 on: December 21, 2019, 03:12:23 AM »
Getting towards the back end of the game and wrapping up sidequests and checked out the expeditions free dlc mode. I'm cooling on the game a little, though still really like it, just not in love with it like the first half where the action just kept getting better and better as you went through these weird cool areas.

It just feels like after a certain point it's running out of steam and the game just turns into room after room of the same enemy waves (standard, bomb, heavy gunner, rocket bois) and combat pretty much stays the same where the best thing to do just seems to be run around throwing shit at people one at a time and then flying and shoot dodging between, repeat over and over until the last spawns are dead.

There's nothing really to even do in the rooms between enemy waves besides scour every room for case files, which are fun but damn there is a lot. The FMV stuff is still great with the Dr. Darling vids and Hotline vids. Threshold Kids is creepy fun even if it is literally a 1:1 copy of Candle Cove from Channel Zero S1 (you can really tell the shows Sam Lake is a fan of in these games haha).

And the boss fights, especially the big monster ones feel like the weakest part. They're not terrrrible, but they're simple and make you miss the standard wave bosses.

It's a good game with great TPS action but just feels like it's coasting since about halfway and relying on the art and story. Most of the time it's a lot of fun, but sometimes it's starting to get a bit boring. I remember liking Alan Wake a good deal but it also kinda went back and forth between fun and a bit boring. It just feels like there's something variety-wise missing in Remedy games post-Max Payne to keep them running at high-steam from start to finish. Maybe they're too long for their own good.


Anyhow, was fun running into

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The dark tower connected Remedy universe is lol but I'll take it. I didn't play Quantum Break but I guess it's a story written by Alan Wake? I definitely want to play Quantum Break soon after Control since the combat seems similar and the core combat feel is really good in Control. Just needs more enemy variety, combat scenario variety and maybe more useful moves/weapons (I feel like a lot of weapon types are kinda useless). Also not a big fan of the timed one-shot missions for mats. Getting instant KO'd by some off-screen enemy and then not seeing the mission again for an hour or two sucks.

I read Photo Mode wasn't there at launch. Glad I'm playing it now, especially since Epic Store doesn't have screenshots and it's really helpful for taking photos since it's a great looking game.

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« Reply #34071 on: December 21, 2019, 05:12:28 AM »
What I love about Control is all the optional content(TM).

You can just run through it as an action romp like Quantum Break or you can explore and really dive deep into the Lore and solve environmental puzzles that are not even marked as 'puzzles' using hints you find,
those hints may be as subtle as a poster in the background or an image playing on the TV. Once you realize all these secret are hidden the game it becomes even better.

I really enjoyed Quantum Break as well but Control is on another level. My biggest problem with Quantum Break is that by the time you have all the powers and things get really interesting the game ends.
Still, it's easily the most interesting 'AAA' first party game Microsoft published on the Xbox One  :doge


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« Reply #34072 on: December 21, 2019, 03:00:27 PM »
I bought Battlefront II

might as well check it out for 5 bucks

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« Reply #34073 on: December 21, 2019, 03:11:22 PM »
What I love about Control is all the optional content(TM).

You can just run through it as an action romp like Quantum Break or you can explore and really dive deep into the Lore and solve environmental puzzles that are not even marked as 'puzzles' using hints you find,
those hints may be as subtle as a poster in the background or an image playing on the TV. Once you realize all these secret are hidden the game it becomes even better.

I really enjoyed Quantum Break as well but Control is on another level. My biggest problem with Quantum Break is that by the time you have all the powers and things get really interesting the game ends.
Still, it's easily the most interesting 'AAA' first party game Microsoft published on the Xbox One  :doge

I'd like the optional content better if there was a better map showing locked doors like RE/SH. Because trying to remember where all the locked doors you now have keys for basically is just re-running through all the areas again.
But yeah, I like when I platform around and find some little hidden hole and it says HIDDEN AREA DISCOVERED +1 ability point

There is a lot I like about Control
and a decent amount I don't. Lots of little dumb things like how everytime you find an audio log you just have to stand still and wait for it to play it vs other games when you can keep moving while listening to audio logs. Between those and the videos everywhere the pacing is kinda whack where you're running and fighting and exploring and then just standing still for 90 seconds staring at a screen/audio player every few mins.

But man when the action waves are good, the core action is easily the most satisfying TPS since Vanquish.

Right now the game's about a B+ for me, but still got a bit to go. At

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« Reply #34074 on: December 21, 2019, 11:25:48 PM »
The levitation is a pretty drastic game changer in the combat, and you get it near the end.  :ufup

My main problems with the game are a couple of audio visual choices that conflict with gameplay (everything is fucking red, you can't see shit sometimes, and too many things make too similar of a sound, to be used as cues for attacks), and, particularly, kind of underwhelming boss fights.
They gain their challenge entirely from the absurd damage dealt and the bullet spongyness, rather than interesting attack patterns or mechanics (except maybe the anchor?).
Didn't even bother beating end-game Tommasi, for this reason, it took forever to get his shield down, and he killed me in two hits, but since his attacks are brain dead stupid to avoid, they just drop a bunch of adds in the arena. Lame.
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« Reply #34075 on: December 22, 2019, 07:09:41 AM »
They spend absolutely no time on accessibility or whatever.
Remedy was basically like: "This looks fucking cool let's put that in"

People have been complaining and asking if they can clean it up, but I feel that if they do it won't be Control anymore.
You're supposed to be in this sort of hazy psychotic mental state all the time. With the later abilities in some rooms you can cover like 90% of your screen with effects and debris.  :lol
There's a few enemies and objects that mess with your head and thus visibility further.

I love these type of more experimental games. Especially when they're executed so well.
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« Reply #34076 on: December 22, 2019, 07:56:29 AM »
Just started Joe Dever's Lone Wolf on Switch. Interesting little game, blending that old school pen and paper RPG with a video game. Not far enough to give it a definitive assessment, but I think I'll stick to this one for a while.
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« Reply #34077 on: December 22, 2019, 02:32:18 PM »
Infinifactory is on Game Pass. I jumped right on it, knowing that it will both hook and eventually defeat me, like Space Chem before and as probably all other Zachtronics games would. One of these puzzles will require more than one sitting's worth of thought and it will sap my spirit, I know it. Until then, I will have a lot of fun tinkering.

Already found myself overthinking a puzzle severly. :stahp
There's a
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second campaign!? I thought I was nearly done! No wonder I still hadn't unlocked those special blocks.
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Still having a lot of fun with it though. The ramp is gentle. I've yet to hit a hard wall due to not having developed some unintuitive technique, which happened to me in SpaceChem.
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« Reply #34078 on: December 22, 2019, 11:30:12 PM »
Beat Control. Really good game. The ashtray maze with the metal song playing and fighting waves in moving cool environments was the highest point of the game and climax imo. Very awesome and would've liked more of that kinda moving environments gameplay in the game. The ending was kinda weak and after doing all the waves waiting for the cable car and then in the ashtray maze, doing them again at Hedron and then again at the final boss area got kinda tiring. It's weird how like 90% of the enemies can't even hit you in endgame and then like 2 enemy types can kill you in 2 hits (throwing shit enemies) so you can go waves and then they spawn and you die in 2 hits and do it again and watch out specifically for them.

Anyhow, liked the story, really liked the VA by the main gal who plays Jesse and Trench/Max Payne is great of course. Great art, great combat though could use some more useful weapons and powers (is there any reason to ever use the world's shittiest sniper rifle and the grenade launcher that doesn't do damage and just interrupts? When is shield/seize ever actually needed?) and more enemy variety. Also more gameplay variety too with puzzles and stuff could've mixed it up a bit.

I still have the new expeditions mode which is looong waves and dunno if I'll bother and a few of the tedious filler sidequests (go do a dozen different things through the whole map again!). Also the
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but overall real good and very much worth full price and the time. Would give it like an A- in the end.

I very much appreciate how it's sorta Alan Wake 2 with very specific connections and overall settings/style is basically Alan Wake with better combat and less exploration. It's a better game than Alan Wake for sure.
Will definitely play the DLC expansions next year. Both sound interesting.

Oh and the diablo rng loot stuff was really pointless Never had to make mods since you get enough in combat and there's a lot of useless mods. Once I have my setup I pretty much just replaced them here and there with higher tier versions and was good. Would like more variety of useful mods in the expansions/sequel.

The levitation is a pretty drastic game changer in the combat, and you get it near the end.  :ufup

My main problems with the game are a couple of audio visual choices that conflict with gameplay (everything is fucking red, you can't see shit sometimes, and too many things make too similar of a sound, to be used as cues for attacks), and, particularly, kind of underwhelming boss fights.
They gain their challenge entirely from the absurd damage dealt and the bullet spongyness, rather than interesting attack patterns or mechanics (except maybe the anchor?).
Didn't even bother beating end-game Tommasi, for this reason, it took forever to get his shield down, and he killed me in two hits, but since his attacks are brain dead stupid to avoid, they just drop a bunch of adds in the arena. Lame.

Levitation does change things up although it mostly just changes dashing around strafting and throwing shit to flying around strafing and throwing shit.
But since teleport float is not tied to energy usage and makes you harder to hit it does make things easier. Throw throw throw and then jump and float and shoot shoot shoot while air dashing to dodge stuff big guys throw.

The funny thing is that Tommasi fight is exactly the same as the first boss in the game Tommasi fight. For me, even having beaten the game and done most/all the optional bosses, that first Tommasi fight was the hardest. I got stuck for 30-40 mins on it and had to cheat through it, but I did the endgame one fair and square and beat it. In that first fight he still kills you in 2 hits of things he throws, you have no powers against launch and he dodges your launch (although I learned later in the game that floating enemies only dodge your first launch and the second and third in a row hit, so I'm guessing I could've hit him but I assumed launch didn't work on him since he'd dodge when I threw stuff) and the only weapon you have is the starting one and the shotgun which doesn't help since he's so far away.

So since your options are severely limited and he kills you in 2 hits while spawning enemies and has a ton of HP and all you can do is get some pop pop pop shots in between reload times...that fight was fucking hard. It was the only part in the game I had to use a trainer for! The rest was fine when more options opened up.

On endgame one at least I could float up to the top level area so I avoid his spawns and can just launch shit at him non-stop and levitate dodge while energy recharged to repeat.

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« Reply #34079 on: December 22, 2019, 11:37:22 PM »
oh and the Dynamite music video was greaaaaaat

best parts are when the game was just having fun like with the ashtray maze metal and that.